Re: [abcusers] Intergalactic naming conventions.
> "laurie" == laurie griffiths writes: laurie> I'd better wait and see what Jack and Phil say - but there seem to me to be laurie> many Scotsmen that consider their variant of English a separate language laurie> (some of Burns poetry can be pretty impenetrable to us English). Certainly it's farther from "English" English than American English is. But we do have our own army. But I think there's another factor, which is whether a language is the "lingua franca". When French was, all kinds of incomprehensible variants like Haitian Creole went on calling themselves French. Now that English is, it's tempting to say that what you speak is the "English" that will get you jobs, even when it's pretty different. The same thing probably happened when Latin was metamorphosing into what are now the Romance Languages. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Intergalactic naming conventions.
Let's see; Scotland does have its own parliament now, but it doesn't have its own army or navy, so it must be a dialect (and an inferior one at that ;-). I'd better wait and see what Jack and Phil say - but there seem to me to be many Scotsmen that consider their variant of English a separate language (some of Burns poetry can be pretty impenetrable to us English). [How to tell if someone is Scottish - ask them "are you Scotch?" If you survive the encounter, they are not!] To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Intergalactic naming conventions.
Frank Nordberg writes: | John Chambers wrote: | > | ... And the English think that English is the language that the English | > | speak!! | > | Laurie | > | > Yeah, well, the language does have more than a few major dialects. | > There's that line from My Fair Lady: "In America they haven't spoken | > it in years." And it's probably worth noting that the major American | > dictionaries all call themselves a "Dictionary of the American | > Language". | | Makes a lotta sense to me. Danish and Norwegian are at least as closely | related as English and American, yet they are considered two different languages. There's an old definition: A language is a dialect with its own army. One of the standard themes for linguistics classes is that this is not just funny; it's often the real definition. There is a standard linguistic definition, but it has the same boundary problem as the biologists' definition of "species". There are lots of borderline cases, or rather, cases where the border doesn't really exist. Local politics then defines the terms used. Is Lallans a dialect of English, or a different language? Let's see; Scotland does have its own parliament now, but it doesn't have its own army or navy, so it must be a dialect (and an inferior one at that ;-). To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Intergalactic naming conventions.
John Chambers wrote: > > | ... And the English think that English is the language that the English > | speak!! > | Laurie > > Yeah, well, the language does have more than a few major dialects. > There's that line from My Fair Lady: "In America they haven't spoken > it in years." And it's probably worth noting that the major American > dictionaries all call themselves a "Dictionary of the American > Language". Makes a lotta sense to me. Danish and Norwegian are at least as closely related as English and American, yet they are considered two different languages. Forgeot Eric wrote: > > When I've been in Bodø and Nord-Norge in winter (Jul), I thought > it was HEAVEN (or to be more correct, VALHALL) ! :) Drop me a line next time you're here, will you? Frank Nordberg http://www.musicaviva.com To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Intergalactic naming conventions.
| ... And the English think that English is the language that the English | speak!! | Laurie Yeah, well, the language does have more than a few major dialects. There's that line from My Fair Lady: "In America they haven't spoken it in years." And it's probably worth noting that the major American dictionaries all call themselves a "Dictionary of the American Language". This goes counter to the fact that most Americans claim they speak English. But common terminology is decidedly fuzzy. It is common to observe that the spoken dialects have diverged a lot more than the written forms. This is probably the only good feature of our demented spelling "system". To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Intergalactic naming conventions.
Sorry sent wrong reference http://www.ipnsig.org/techinfo.htm -see pdf document - Interplanetary Internet: Architectural Definition --On Monday, July 01, 2002 13:40:45 + Thomas Bending <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Any other Brightons there may be need qualification eg Brighton, >> > Planet Zog. >> >> When it comes to announcements on the web, it's safe to assume it >> happens on earth. All other semi-civilized planets have their own >> (mutually incompatible) networks, and as for *civilized* planets - I >> guess they've got the sense not to mess with this mess at all ;-) ;-) ;-) > > Mutually incompatible? Surely not. Several sci-fi movies (mentioning > no Independence Days) make it clear that it's easy to link your > network to that of the aliens, even if they're presumably trying to > stop you. So conversely we must assume the aliens are all using the > abcusers list, even though we don't see many of their posts. Even > now debate is raging over an illegal adaptation of the ":" > control code by players of the octoventral heebiephone... > > Thomas Bending > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > Jethro Anderson - DBA (ISYS) University of Bristol Pigsty Morris City Clickers Step and Clog Instep Research Team Insword Rapper "Never give a sword to a man who can't dance" To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Intergalactic naming conventions.
see http://www.faqs.org/rfc/rfc3271.txt --On Monday, July 01, 2002 13:40:45 + Thomas Bending <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Any other Brightons there may be need qualification eg Brighton, >> > Planet Zog. >> >> When it comes to announcements on the web, it's safe to assume it >> happens on earth. All other semi-civilized planets have their own >> (mutually incompatible) networks, and as for *civilized* planets - I >> guess they've got the sense not to mess with this mess at all ;-) ;-) ;-) > > Mutually incompatible? Surely not. Several sci-fi movies (mentioning > no Independence Days) make it clear that it's easy to link your > network to that of the aliens, even if they're presumably trying to > stop you. So conversely we must assume the aliens are all using the > abcusers list, even though we don't see many of their posts. Even > now debate is raging over an illegal adaptation of the ":" > control code by players of the octoventral heebiephone... > > Thomas Bending > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > Jethro Anderson - DBA (ISYS) University of Bristol Pigsty Morris City Clickers Step and Clog Instep Research Team Insword Rapper "Never give a sword to a man who can't dance" To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Intergalactic naming conventions.
> > Any other Brightons there may be need qualification eg Brighton, > > Planet Zog. > > When it comes to announcements on the web, it's safe to assume it > happens on earth. All other semi-civilized planets have their own > (mutually incompatible) networks, and as for *civilized* planets - I > guess they've got the sense not to mess with this mess at all ;-) ;-) ;-) Mutually incompatible? Surely not. Several sci-fi movies (mentioning no Independence Days) make it clear that it's easy to link your network to that of the aliens, even if they're presumably trying to stop you. So conversely we must assume the aliens are all using the abcusers list, even though we don't see many of their posts. Even now debate is raging over an illegal adaptation of the ":" control code by players of the octoventral heebiephone... Thomas Bending To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Intergalactic naming conventions.
... And the English think that English is the language that the English speak!! Laurie To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
