Re: [abcusers] Looking for ABC transcriber.
The Playford files have been all over the web for ages, and I've never heard of anybody claiming copyrights for them. As far as I understand, this was originally two or more independent projects that gradually merged. I don't know if it was ever finished. I think the project's main home on the web is: http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~sca/src/contributed/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/dance/playford.html (this is a single URL, remove the line shift) I think the easiest place to find the tunes themselves are: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5567/playford.txt This seems to be an outdated version, but should include most of the important stuff. You may also find some information about it at Eric Praetzel's site: http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/~praetzel/ although his Playford transcriptions may be an independent project. More Playford: The Cynnabar Baronny (don't remember the URL at the moment) used to have an online edition without the actual music (only the dance instructions and other text) in HTML and PDF formats. I think they've removed it, but not before I managed to get my filthy hands on the files ;-) E mail me in private if you want a copy (but don't tell anybody, and don't post it anywhere). Finally: You definitely should have a look at the site named The Dancing Master, 1651-1728 at: http://www.izaak.unh.edu/nhltmd/indexes/dancingmaster/ This site includes facsimiles of *all* the dances from *all* editions of The Dancing Master, not just the 1651 edition the others seems based on. --- Anselm Lingnau wrote: A lot of Playford stuff is available from the US Library of Congress (they have a special page on the history of dancing, the URL of which escapes me right now) It's: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/dihtml/dihome.html Frank Nordberg http://www.musicaviva.com To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Looking for ABC transcriber.
Anselm Lingnau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : A lot of Playford stuff is available from the US Library of Congress (they have a special page on the history of dancing, the URL of which escapes me right now), so one could go back right to the original sources to make sure that the ABCs in question are `uncontaminated'. That's exactly what I did for my Orchesography transcription - although I was primarily working from a printed source, anything I thought might be editorial to that edition was checked back to the facsimile on the Library of Congress site, as I thought 483 years was probably long enough for Jehan Tabouret's copyright to lapse. Now all we need to do is get a working party to abc all the *rest* of the stuff on the LoC site :-) Start at http://memory.loc.gov and follow your nose from there. Steve Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lesession.demon.co.uk - abc music notation tutorial and other goodies To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Looking for ABC transcriber.
At 08:12 PM 11-15-2001 +, Steve Mansfield you wrote: Anselm Lingnau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : A lot of Playford stuff is available from the US Library of Congress (they have a special page on the history of dancing, the URL of which escapes me right now), so one could go back right to the original sources to make sure that the ABCs in question are `uncontaminated'. That's exactly what I did for my Orchesography transcription - although I was primarily working from a printed source, anything I thought might be editorial to that edition was checked back to the facsimile on the Library of Congress site, as I thought 483 years was probably long enough for Jehan Tabouret's copyright to lapse. Fortunately for me, the Dover edition of Orchesography claims that the illustrations and music included in the text are facsimiles of Jehan Tabouret's original artwork, so I have no problem coding from those. Unfortunately, the available editions of Playford I've been able to find currently available for commercial purchase have all the music transcribed to modern notation. I'd rather not double-check one person's interpretation/transcription using another secondary source of unknown copyright. The complete Dancing Master website is an amazing piece of work which I have found in the past to be a valuable resource, but the scans of the music are too small to be useful -- when I can't tell which end of a quaver is the note head and which is the flag, it is of limited usefulness. Now all we need to do is get a working party to abc all the *rest* of the stuff on the LoC site :-) Start at http://memory.loc.gov Playford there has good-quality scans that are very readable with clear music. My only problem is the selection -- it only has volume 2 of the 4th edition. It's better than nothing, but I'd prefer more. and follow your nose from there. Will do. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Looking for ABC transcriber.
Buddha Buck wrote: I have a file called playford.abc, which I got from http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~flip/contrib/dance/playford.abc. Unfortunately, it doesn't have any information on who transcribed it, or who owns the copyright, etc. Does anyone have any idea who wrote it? As far a I know, that would be Michael Robinson. A link to his site: http://www.sls.hawaii.edu/bley-vroman/contra/dances/playford.html -- bert van vreckem If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed... Oh wait! He does! To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Looking for ABC transcriber.
James Allwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since Playford published his collections of music several centuries ago, you are pretty safe in assuming the copyright has expired. Yes, but it might be construed that there is copyright on editorial changes within the transcription, which may be more or less obvious. A lot of Playford stuff is available from the US Library of Congress (they have a special page on the history of dancing, the URL of which escapes me right now), so one could go back right to the original sources to make sure that the ABCs in question are `uncontaminated'. Anselm -- Anselm Lingnau .. [EMAIL PROTECTED] From a limp beginning, the erotic information processing market has been rising in recent years and is now quite firm, although the recession has created some soft spots. -- Tom Betz, in rec.humor.funny (1989) To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Looking for ABC transcriber.
At 05:11 PM 11-14-2001 +0100, Bert Van Vreckem wrote: I found a site of a Michael Robinson that's into traditional music, but the Playford transcription isn't mentioned: http://www.sirius.com/~ststones/. There's other abc stuff there, though. Actually, he has, buried in his Standing Stones site, a page devoted to Playford (http://www.sirius.com/~ststones/playford.html. However, that site does not seem to claim authorship of the playford.abc file, instead, it provides two links -- one to a defunct site at Stanford University, and one to the ceolas.org archive. Ceolas.org, on the otherhand, claims that their Playford collection is courtesy Michael Robinson, and has an introduction file linked that contains the same text as on the Standing Stones' site. I will try to contact Michael Robinson and see what information I can get from him. Thanks all. -- bert van vreckem If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed... Oh wait! He does! To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
