Re: [abcusers] Re: abcusers-digest V1 #364

2000-10-13 Thread Richard Robinson

On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Jack Campin wrote:

 We already have several header fields like this, all of them wildly
 ambiguous and interpreted in every possible way by some transcriber
 somewhere.  What do you want your new field to do, exactly?  What
 *kind* of class? - I can think of class divisions like:
 
 [impressive list]
 
 Two letters isn't going to do it, we need something extensible.  Putting
 keywords in N: fields is a stopgap you can use meanwhile.

Yes.

Or invent your own
%%private_keyword:
fields, is another way round it.

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem


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Re: [abcusers] Re: abcusers-digest V1 #364

2000-10-12 Thread Jack Campin


Incidentally, I would like to see a 'class' code, that would include one or
more characters, each of which would represent a class of music to which
the tune belongs.  Then, if there is a large archive of tunes, you can pipe
it through a filter to extract all those in the archive that belong to the
class of music of interest to you, whether you know the names of the
individual tunes in the class or not.

We already have several header fields like this, all of them wildly
ambiguous and interpreted in every possible way by some transcriber
somewhere.  What do you want your new field to do, exactly?  What
*kind* of class? - I can think of class divisions like:

- transcription from live performance vs recording vs print

- raw transcription vs edited version

- final version vs draft

- fiddle vs pipe setting

- transposition for soprano vs alto voice

- grade V vs grade VIII difficulty level

- melody vs four-part harmonization

- copyright vs public domain

- laid out in portrait vs landscape format

- Gaelic vs English lyrics

- requires standard vs DADGAD guitar tuning

- banned or permitted under German anti-Nazi laws

- standard vs extended vs archaic ABC

- original copy or from a mirror site

- clean vs bawdy version

Two letters isn't going to do it, we need something extensible.  Putting
keywords in N: fields is a stopgap you can use meanwhile.


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[abcusers] Re: abcusers-digest V1 #364

2000-10-11 Thread Derek Lane-Smith

At 09:26 AM 10/11/00 -0700, Bryan wrote:
One final point I have to make.  I am worried by phrases like "if we permit" 
and "should force people" and comparisons with speeding laws (For goodness 
sake!  Nobody's going to die here.)  Are WE (who like it the way it is) 
becoming WE (who must be obeyed)?  Couldn't we borrow a few words from
modern 
business speak like enable, provide, facilitate?

I honestly can't see why this whole discussion is such a great problem.
Why not simply have two separate key signature codes, one, K:, that can
contain the key/mode, and the other, k: (say), that can contain the key
signature.  That way you maintain compatibility, nearly, with old abc
files, but have full scope for exercising personal preference.  Any tune
can have either or both fields filled.

Incidentally, I would like to see a 'class' code, that would include one or
more characters, each of which would represent a class of music to which
the tune belongs.  Then, if there is a large archive of tunes, you can pipe
it through a filter to extract all those in the archive that belong to the
class of music of interest to you, whether you know the names of the
individual tunes in the class or not.

Derek
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