Re: [abcusers] explicit !break!

2003-07-06 Thread Henrik Norbeck
Tom Keays wrote:
> No really.  Look at all the Irish tunes on the web that are set in phrases
> of four or eight bars so that you can see the patterns in the tunes.

Well in the case of my transcriptions this is not important to me. 
Most of them happen to have 4 bars per line in the abc, but that's 
not meant to be preserved in print. If people want them printed 
with 4 bars per line, fine for me, but I wouldn't print them like that 
for myself. I would like as compact printing as possible, which 
would mean about 6 bars per line.


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Re: [abcusers] explicit !break!

2003-07-06 Thread Calum Galleitch
On Sunday 06 July 2003 8:33 pm, I. Oppenheim wrote:

> > a) There's a lot of ABC already in existence that
> > depends on that assumption.
>
> As I said already, I seriously doubt that. Tunes for
> which the linebreaks are important for some reason or
> another, should make them explicit.

As Tom says, almost all traditional dance music is best laid in lines of four 
or possibly eight bars; a large proportion of the ABC corpus in this category 
is laid out already, and it shouldn't be broken, though I agree some other 
system might be theoretically better.  I won't even mention us pipers...

Cheers,
Calum
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Re: [abcusers] explicit !break!

2003-07-06 Thread Tom Keays
on 7/6/03 3:33 PM, I. Oppenheim wrote:
>> a) There's a lot of ABC already in existence that
>> depends on that assumption.
> As I said already, I seriously doubt that. Tunes for
> which the linebreaks are important for some reason or
> another, should make them explicit.

No really.  Look at all the Irish tunes on the web that are set in phrases
of four or eight bars so that you can see the patterns in the tunes.
Classical musicians don't (necessarily) do this since they are sight-reading
the music, but folk musicians who use the written music to memorize it, most
certainly DO.  Newline must be preserved in the standard.  Use some other
parameter, if you have to, to determine whether the abc parser will adhere
to it or ignore it.  Use the explicit !break! or !nobreak! designators as
you see fit.  

OK. I'm done with this thread.  

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