Re: [Accessibility-ia2] How is MSAA+IA2 used for live regions

2011-07-08 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger

Hi Pete,

Pleas look at the ARIA implementation guide:

http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_events

Section 5.8.2 will show the events fired for document changes within a live
region

aria-live is not a state. It is a property so you need only look at the
property API mapping.

Now, how a Braille device is driven in response to an out of context event
in polite mode is a function of the AT implementation. Polite basically
says  to notify the user when you get around to it. If the response were
rude the Braille device should be driven immediately. I don't know if there
is some timing delay between each item that is announced. There probably
should be.

Rich

Rich Schwerdtfeger
CTO Accessibility Software Group



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Date:   07/08/2011 08:52 AM
Subject:Re: [Accessibility-ia2] How is MSAA+IA2 used for live regions
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Thanks Alex, Do you have a link to the Mozilla spec for the container-*
object attributes?

On 7/8/2011 8:25 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
> Hi, Pete.
>
> Accessible object exposes ARIA live attributes as object attributes,
> all its descendants expose these attributes with "container-" prefix.
> When DOM underneath the aria live region is changed then accessible
> show/hide events are fired. AT listens these events and use object
> attributes to announce the change.
>
> Alex.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Pete Brunet  wrote:
>> What aspects of MSAA+IA2 are used to implement live regions?
>>
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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] How is MSAA+IA2 used for live regions

2011-07-08 Thread Alexander Surkov
Hi, Pete. They are listed at
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Accessibility/AT-APIs/Gecko/Attrs.

Thank you.
Alex.


On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Pete Brunet  wrote:
> Thanks Alex, Do you have a link to the Mozilla spec for the container-*
> object attributes?
>
> On 7/8/2011 8:25 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
>> Hi, Pete.
>>
>> Accessible object exposes ARIA live attributes as object attributes,
>> all its descendants expose these attributes with "container-" prefix.
>> When DOM underneath the aria live region is changed then accessible
>> show/hide events are fired. AT listens these events and use object
>> attributes to announce the change.
>>
>> Alex.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Pete Brunet  wrote:
>>> What aspects of MSAA+IA2 are used to implement live regions?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Pete Brunet
>>>
>>> a11ysoft - Accessibility Architecture and Development
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>>> Skype: pete.brunet
>>> IM: ptbrunet (AOL, Google), ptbru...@live.com (MSN)
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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] How is MSAA+IA2 used for live regions

2011-07-08 Thread Pete Brunet
Thanks Alex, Do you have a link to the Mozilla spec for the container-*
object attributes?

On 7/8/2011 8:25 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
> Hi, Pete.
>
> Accessible object exposes ARIA live attributes as object attributes,
> all its descendants expose these attributes with "container-" prefix.
> When DOM underneath the aria live region is changed then accessible
> show/hide events are fired. AT listens these events and use object
> attributes to announce the change.
>
> Alex.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Pete Brunet  wrote:
>> What aspects of MSAA+IA2 are used to implement live regions?
>>
>> --
>> Pete Brunet
>>
>> a11ysoft - Accessibility Architecture and Development
>> (512) 467-4706 (work), (512) 689-4155 (cell)
>> Skype: pete.brunet
>> IM: ptbrunet (AOL, Google), ptbru...@live.com (MSN)
>> http://www.a11ysoft.com/about/
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Re: [Accessibility-ia2] How is MSAA+IA2 used for live regions

2011-07-08 Thread Alexander Surkov
Hi, Pete.

Accessible object exposes ARIA live attributes as object attributes,
all its descendants expose these attributes with "container-" prefix.
When DOM underneath the aria live region is changed then accessible
show/hide events are fired. AT listens these events and use object
attributes to announce the change.

Alex.


On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Pete Brunet  wrote:
> What aspects of MSAA+IA2 are used to implement live regions?
>
> --
> Pete Brunet
>
> a11ysoft - Accessibility Architecture and Development
> (512) 467-4706 (work), (512) 689-4155 (cell)
> Skype: pete.brunet
> IM: ptbrunet (AOL, Google), ptbru...@live.com (MSN)
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[Accessibility-ia2] How is MSAA+IA2 used for live regions

2011-07-08 Thread Pete Brunet
What aspects of MSAA+IA2 are used to implement live regions?

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