Re: [AI] Member joining back

2007-12-05 Thread Chetan Sharma
Thats great news indeed! A very warm  welcome to MrK. Ramkrishna.

Regards,

Chetan Sharma
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 Hello all

 I am very happy to welcome back K. Ramkrishna back to our family.

 He was very courteous to accept our request to rejoin the group.

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[AI] Member joining back

2007-12-05 Thread harish
Hello all

I am very happy to welcome back K. Ramkrishna back to our family.

He was very courteous to accept our request to rejoin the group.

Warmly
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Re: [AI] Jaws cursor on laptop

2007-12-05 Thread Abdul Razique Khan
Sir,
I'm very sorry. Here's a correction which u can see in imran's reply to your 
querry. instead of / I have written puriet in point number 2 and 4.
very sorry
Abdul
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Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Jaws cursor on laptop


 Can do it in more than one ways
 The function key method:
 1) PC cursor:FN key + slash
 2) Jaws cursor:FN key + semicolon
 3) Route Jaws cursor to PC cursor:FN key + Capslock (or Insert)
 +semicolon
 4) Route PC to Jaws:FN key +capslock (or insert) + slash

 Capslock or Jaws key method:

 1) Jaws cursor:Capslock + P
 2) PC cursor:Capslock + semicolon
 3) Route Jaws to PC:capslock + Left bracket
 4) Route PC to Jaws:Capslock + apostrophe

 When you change the keyboard layout to Laptop, the Capslock key is
 considered as Jaws key, and therefore, you must press it twice, to 
 perform
 its original function.
 Holding the FN key and pressing any of those JKL range of keys is 
 equelent
 to pressing the num pad keys, with Num pad lock deactivated on a normal
 keyboard. For e.g, If you press M holding FN key, it is like pressing 
 the
 insert key of Numpad in a normal keyboard. Remember that big rectangular 
 key
 that acts as zero and insert? yeah, that's right

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 From: Sudhir R (NeSTIT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:30 AM
 Subject: [AI] Jaws cursor on laptop


 Folks,

 Would appreciate if someone could educate me how to switch to the Jaws
 cursor in a HP Compaq laptop that uses the laptop keyboard layout in Jaws
 settings.  Also, how can I route the PC cursor to Jaws cursor and vice
 versa ? (OS is Win XP and Jaws 8.0 is doing the honours.)

 Thanks and rgds

 RS
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Re: [AI] Files not visible

2007-12-05 Thread Balaram
Dear friends,
adding on the joke,
if not today tomorrow, Microsoft can really become murda.
Ubuntu and the bundled screen reader orca is making good progress and are on 
their way to really threatening Windows and the screen readers.
The problem that I have faced on Ubuntu and orca is brousing internet.
The most positive aspect of Ubuntu is that, we don't have to depend anybody 
to install it and we don't have to search for motherboard drivers to enhance 
audio and video performance. Indeed, it has to make progress on scanning and 
sound editing.
Though, there are more than useful software packages to fulfil these needs, 
accessability is a problem at least for now.
So, if we try to get in terms with ubuntu and orca, I don't think, it will 
take too long to throw away the ever bug producing and virus vulnerable 
windows.
Dear folks, here, I would like to know how much of you have tasted Ubuntu 
and orca.
Important!
I am not writing these words to offend any ideologies or to fume any 
argumentative debate on the list.
- Original Message - 
From: FARHAN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Files not visible


 ha ha ha ha ha. how is microsoft is murdhaubaudh?
 has Windows Xp  been created from microsoft? if yes,then how is microsoft 
 is
 murdhaubaudh
 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. please do not say this words again. otherwise 
 windows
 xp,which is elder sister of vista,will tell about these words.
 ha ha ha ha this is just like a joke! ha ha ha.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:15 AM
 Subject: [AI] Files not visible


 Hi everyone,

 Here is the tricky question: Some of my MP3 files that I burnt to CD with
 XP
 is not visible in my new vista computer. The folder looks like empty. But
 those CDS are perfectly all right and I can use them very well with XP. I
 even tried copying those files to the flash disk, but the situation is
 basically the same. Any solution? I used so many previous versions of
 windows, but never encountered so much of troubles like vista. Microsoft
 Murdhaubaudh!

 Vetri.
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Re: [AI] Files not visible

2007-12-05 Thread Syed Imran
Hi my dear friend

I hurd these operating systems like Linux and Unix are so powerful that they 
even crash the hardware if not they are operated carefully, or they consume 
the system resources very big time?
You know that i'm not against you, but I just intend to get this clarified.
One of our good gentlemen like you, had posted a link on the list to 
download GNOME linux operating system. He told us that the operating system 
itself is equipped with an In-built ORCA screenreader, and there's nothing 
further to be done, than just inserting the GNOME Linux CD while the system 
boots up. I did this in my laptop, but I didn't have the fortune of getting 
to hear its speech output while the system was booting in Linux mode.
Finally I started the GNOME linux taking one of my sighted folk's 
assistance, but when we activated ORCA, it didn't speak. But I'm still 
willing to carry on my Linux experiments, although I'm worried about the 
problems my system has to undergo.
Do let me know your experiences with Linux if you are using it.

With best regards
Syed Imran
- Original Message - 
From: Balaram [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Files not visible


 Dear friends,
 adding on the joke,
 if not today tomorrow, Microsoft can really become murda.
 Ubuntu and the bundled screen reader orca is making good progress and are 
 on
 their way to really threatening Windows and the screen readers.
 The problem that I have faced on Ubuntu and orca is brousing internet.
 The most positive aspect of Ubuntu is that, we don't have to depend 
 anybody
 to install it and we don't have to search for motherboard drivers to 
 enhance
 audio and video performance. Indeed, it has to make progress on scanning 
 and
 sound editing.
 Though, there are more than useful software packages to fulfil these 
 needs,
 accessability is a problem at least for now.
 So, if we try to get in terms with ubuntu and orca, I don't think, it will
 take too long to throw away the ever bug producing and virus vulnerable
 windows.
 Dear folks, here, I would like to know how much of you have tasted Ubuntu
 and orca.
 Important!
 I am not writing these words to offend any ideologies or to fume any
 argumentative debate on the list.
 - Original Message - 
 From: FARHAN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Files not visible


 ha ha ha ha ha. how is microsoft is murdhaubaudh?
 has Windows Xp  been created from microsoft? if yes,then how is microsoft
 is
 murdhaubaudh
 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. please do not say this words again. otherwise
 windows
 xp,which is elder sister of vista,will tell about these words.
 ha ha ha ha this is just like a joke! ha ha ha.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:15 AM
 Subject: [AI] Files not visible


 Hi everyone,

 Here is the tricky question: Some of my MP3 files that I burnt to CD 
 with
 XP
 is not visible in my new vista computer. The folder looks like empty. 
 But
 those CDS are perfectly all right and I can use them very well with XP. 
 I
 even tried copying those files to the flash disk, but the situation is
 basically the same. Any solution? I used so many previous versions of
 windows, but never encountered so much of troubles like vista. Microsoft
 Murdhaubaudh!

 Vetri.
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Re: [AI] yahoo messenger 9 full.

2007-12-05 Thread FARHAN
o no no,don't worry about it.
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From: vinod benjamin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] yahoo messenger 9 full.


 Dear sir,
 Thanks for correcting me, appoligies for my mistake.
 Regards
 Benjamin.

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 Behalf Of FARHAN
 Sent: Tuesday, 04 December, 2007 10:40 PM
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 Subject: Re: [AI] yahoo messenger 9 full.

 hello friend,i'm not madam. i'm just a boy like your
 brother/friend.
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 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] yahoo messenger 9 full.


 Dear sir/madam,
 Thanks
 Regards benjamin

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 Behalf Of FARHAN
 Sent: Friday, 09 November, 2007 4:58 PM
 To: BLINDS- GUPSHUPCOMUNITY GROUP; access india
 Subject: [AI] yahoo messenger 9 full.

 Yahoo messenger 9 is out. Click the link below to
 download.

 http://www.sendspace.com/file/6zflf9

 Before installing, please remove all the yahoo
 messenger scripts from your
 Jaws enu folder.

 After installing this new version, for those who use
 jaws 8, don't put the
 scripts back. Try send the message to your friend.

 And after you friend reply your chat, go to chat box
 and press f 6 to read
 the chat. If f 6 key is function, that's ok. To go
 back to the typing windows, press f 6 key again.

 And, if your f 6 key is not function, that's mean,
 you
 must put back the
 scripts.
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Re: [AI] Member joining back

2007-12-05 Thread vinod benjamin
Welcome sir.
Benjamin.

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Sent: Wednesday, 05 December, 2007 3:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Member joining back

Thats great news indeed! A very warm  welcome to MrK.
Ramkrishna.

Regards,

Chetan Sharma
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To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:33 PM
Subject: [AI] Member joining back


 Hello all

 I am very happy to welcome back K. Ramkrishna back
to our family.

 He was very courteous to accept our request to
rejoin the group.

 Warmly
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Re: [AI] Jaws cursor on laptop

2007-12-05 Thread Mamta
hello sir!
to switch to the jaws kerser: you have to press
insert orr jaws key + letter P
insert+Semicolon for PC kerser.
Insert +left braket for Root jaws to PC.
Insert+The Apostrophy key for root Pc to jaws
Please note that all this is on your alfa key pad as your numpad is not 
there in the laptop all these keys also work as numpad keys!.

hope this helps!
many thanks!
regards
Mamta.
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From: Sudhir R (NeSTIT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:30 AM
Subject: [AI] Jaws cursor on laptop


Folks,

Would appreciate if someone could educate me how to switch to the Jaws 
cursor in a HP Compaq laptop that uses the laptop keyboard layout in Jaws 
settings.  Also, how can I route the PC cursor to Jaws cursor and vice versa 
? (OS is Win XP and Jaws 8.0 is doing the honours.)

Thanks and rgds

RS
M: 098 472 76 126
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Re: [AI] Member joining back

2007-12-05 Thread firoz
wel come back k ramakrishnan
with respect
firoz
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 I am very happy to welcome back K. Ramkrishna back to our family.

 He was very courteous to accept our request to rejoin the group.

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[AI] UN: Stop Disabled Job Discrimination

2007-12-05 Thread Pradeep banakar
UN: Stop Disabled Job Discrimination
By EDITH M. LEDERER 12.04.07, 12:35 PM ET


The 20 Most Important Questions In Business
Most Worker Friendly Nations
Most Expensive Places To Buy Gas in the U.S.
Greediest Cities in the U.S.

UNITED NATIONS -

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called for an end to the deplorable job 
discrimination against millions of disabled people around the world.

In a message Monday on the International Day of Disabled Persons, Ban said 
estimates show that at least half of all disabled people in developed nations,
and the vast majority of those in developing countries are unemployed.

Most others are under-employed, or will never have full access to the labor 
market, he said.

This situation is deplorable, the secretary-general said. Persons with 
disabilities have the ability to make valuable contributions in the workforce
as employees, entrepreneurs and employers. But they face numerous barriers that 
prevent them from fulfilling their potential.

Ban cited difficulties for the disabled in getting an education and learning 
skills that would be useful in the job market, fears and prejudices about their
abilities, as well as inaccessible workplaces, and explicit and implict 
discriminatory legislation and practices.

Last December, the U.N. General Assembly adopted a new convention enshrining 
the rights of the world's disabled. Approval of the 32-page convention 
culminated
a campaign spearheaded by disability rights activists and the governments of 
New Zealand, Ecuador and Mexico.

According to the latest U.N. figures, about 10 percent of the world's 
population, or 650 million people, live with a disability and the number is 
increasing
with population growth. The disabled constitute the world's largest minority, 
and 80 percent live in developing countries, many in poverty.

Ban noted that the convention, which has been ratified by 10 countries and is 
expected to enter into force early next year, recognized the rights of the
disabled to work and be employed on an equal basis with others.

Chris Sullivan, a vice president of Merrill Lynch (nyse:
MER -
news -
people )
who was born hearing impaired, told a news conference he is program manager for 
the company's Special Needs Financial Services Group, which he called the
only program offered by a full service financial firm to serve the special 
needs market.

It is a profitable enterprise, he said.

Sullivan said global employers are projecting a shortage of 31 million skilled 
workers by 2010 and 56 million by 2020.

Against that backdrop, more than 65 percent of the people with disabilities in 
the U.S. are unemployed, he said, urging more companies to bring the disabled
into the workforce.

Judy Young, vice president of the National Business and Disability Conference, 
said people will disabilities have significantly increased their visibility
in the past 20 years.

The next couple of years will be especially ripe for turning the tide and 
improving the employments situation of people with disabilities around the world
as many developed countries will experience tighter labor markets as a result 
of the aging population, she said.

Higher life expectance and falling birth rates in these countries will force 
businesses to become more creative in filling job vacancies and to take a
look at underutilized and non-traditional pools of labor and those with 
disabilities certainly represent one of the largest untapped, talented and 
viable
resources, Young said.
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Re: [AI] Files not visible

2007-12-05 Thread FARHAN
o!,i want one thing from you,that the screan reader which is running in 
yabuntu absolutely free?
and where i can get yabuntu?/linix? please help me so that i can tried it 
out.
- Original Message - 
From: Balaram [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Files not visible


 Dear friends,
 adding on the joke,
 if not today tomorrow, Microsoft can really become murda.
 Ubuntu and the bundled screen reader orca is making good progress and are 
 on
 their way to really threatening Windows and the screen readers.
 The problem that I have faced on Ubuntu and orca is brousing internet.
 The most positive aspect of Ubuntu is that, we don't have to depend 
 anybody
 to install it and we don't have to search for motherboard drivers to 
 enhance
 audio and video performance. Indeed, it has to make progress on scanning 
 and
 sound editing.
 Though, there are more than useful software packages to fulfil these 
 needs,
 accessability is a problem at least for now.
 So, if we try to get in terms with ubuntu and orca, I don't think, it will
 take too long to throw away the ever bug producing and virus vulnerable
 windows.
 Dear folks, here, I would like to know how much of you have tasted Ubuntu
 and orca.
 Important!
 I am not writing these words to offend any ideologies or to fume any
 argumentative debate on the list.
 - Original Message - 
 From: FARHAN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Files not visible


 ha ha ha ha ha. how is microsoft is murdhaubaudh?
 has Windows Xp  been created from microsoft? if yes,then how is microsoft
 is
 murdhaubaudh
 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. please do not say this words again. otherwise
 windows
 xp,which is elder sister of vista,will tell about these words.
 ha ha ha ha this is just like a joke! ha ha ha.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:15 AM
 Subject: [AI] Files not visible


 Hi everyone,

 Here is the tricky question: Some of my MP3 files that I burnt to CD 
 with
 XP
 is not visible in my new vista computer. The folder looks like empty. 
 But
 those CDS are perfectly all right and I can use them very well with XP. 
 I
 even tried copying those files to the flash disk, but the situation is
 basically the same. Any solution? I used so many previous versions of
 windows, but never encountered so much of troubles like vista. Microsoft
 Murdhaubaudh!

 Vetri.
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Re: [AI] Sharing good News

2007-12-05 Thread FARHAN
but tell me one thing,are you totely blind?
and have your msn id?
or can you come on ftp?
- Original Message - 
From: Mohammed Asif Iqbal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sharing good News


 Hi Farhane,
 Salaam,
 Yes, I have done my MBa.  I have also done my b.com.  Well, I used Ms. Xl
 quite a bit for my accounts.  I was never good at accounts but I know few
 blind folks who are charter accountant in India.  Learn XL and it will 
 take
 you  places.
 Keep in touch.
 Asif

 - Original Message - 
 From: FARHAN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Sharing good News


 assalamoalaikum friend,i want to ask somequestion from you,that how you 
 can
 handle account? i saw a letter by AI(access indeia) that you have done
 M.B.A. i'm doing d-com,and i realised that i facing many problem with
 accounts. if you could help me,then i would very thankfull to you.
 yours sincerely,farhan.
 please do not mind my english mistakes,and if you see my any mistake in
 english,then please let me know!. i would try to remove it again.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mohammed Asif Iqbal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:25 PM
 Subject: [AI] Sharing good News


 Dear All,
 I was honored with state award for disability Role model  today, December
 3, 2007. this award was given by governor of West Bengal and it is
 sponsored by department of Social Welfare, women  Child development,
 government of West Bengal.
 Thanks and wish you all the best.
 Asif
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[AI] On laptops and Operating Systems

2007-12-05 Thread Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Hi folks !

I have been following the various threads on AI dealing with laptops and the 
various OSs like Windows Vista, Windows XP, Ubuntu etc and am utterly confused 
as to the right choice (if there is something like that) since I am myself 
contemplating the purchase of a laptop.

On the one hand, most reputed manufacturers (except Dell) seem to have stopped 
shipping XP-based machines, while Vista is a real pain from what Vetri and Syed 
have been reporting and I discovered myself.  Ubuntu seems to be good from the 
point of view of immunity from malware though I am not too sure whether we have 
a good eco-system  to support us like a large community of blind users, 
applications for use in a business environment etc.  We cannot take political 
decisions on matters of OS, you know, just because Open Source is the latest 
fad and we all love to hate Bill Gates. (smile)

What about iMacs, laptops running Mac OSX, which, I understand, is a Linux 
variant and equally immune from malware.  I remember reading somewhere that Mac 
OSX comes bundled with a screen reader, and, since it is a proprietory product, 
getting support from the company will be easy.  The only remaining question is 
whether we have a community of blind Mac users (either in India or abroad) to 
pose queries to, as we do in AI ?

Pl share your views and experiences on iMac, Mac OSX, the bundled screen reader 
and the eco-system.  Would request someone like Vetri, who is in the Apple 
country and purchased a laptop recently, to tell us why he opted for one 
running Bill's latest (still-born ?) baby ?

Thanks and rgds

RS
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[AI] IBM Bid for Accessibility for Disabled

2007-12-05 Thread vishnu ramchandani
IBM Bid for Accessibility for Disabled

 Human Ability and Accessibility Center has been
inaugurated in the country by IBM India. 

Its mission statement being to make information and
technology easily accessible to people with visual,
cognitive, hearing, and motor disabilities. And
in the event, possibly drawing upon an untapped
resource -- namely, differently-abled people who might
otherwise be able to make some contribution to the
overall quality of life. 

Located out of the India Research Lab in New Delhi,
the Human Ability and Accessibility Center aims at
catering to diverse needs of accessibility
stakeholders,
including government bodies, corporates, academic
institutions, researchers, and NGOs. 

The key objectives of the center include: to provide
technology to empower differently-abled people, which
includes people who are at an educational- and
economical- disadvantage; to provide technology to
other companies working towards widening the net of
education and information; and to collaborate with
key government bodies on accessibility-related policy
and standards in the country. 

Announcing the initiative, Shanker Annaswamy, managing
director of IBM India  South Asia, said, India faces
a growing need for inclusive development
that fundamentally depends on addressing social,
economic, and physical disadvantages, and creating
opportunities for every individual to realize the
fullest
potential. 

Globally and in India, IBM champions accessibility
needs by bringing technologies and innovations that
empower the differently-abled and the socially
disadvantaged through initiatives such as these. 

The center will deploy some innovative solutions
developed by IBM Research; including Easy Web Browsing
for the visually impaired, WebAdopt2Me for people
with cognitive impairments or low vision, IBM
aDesigner, a disability simulator, Hindi Speech
recognition, and Sensei, an English assessment tool,
to facilitate
human capability so that everyone can maximize their
potential, regardless of ability or disability. 

Meanwhile, the meaning of accessibility is to enable
IT hardware, software, and services so that they can
be used by more people, either directly, or in
combination with assistive technologies. 


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[AI] Now, surf the Net free-of-cost at kiosks

2007-12-05 Thread vishnu ramchandani
Now, surf the Net free-of-cost at kiosks

NOVEL CONCEPT 

Virendra Pandit 

Ahmedabad, Nov. 30 For the first time in India, the
Ahmedabad-based NETHOTZONE has joined hands with
US-based Ahem! Management Solutions to set up kiosks
providing free Internet facility in 155 cities and
towns of the country. NETHOTZONE is investing Rs 165
crore over the next five years to set up these
kiosks at public places and expects revenues to the
tune of Rs 255 crore, Mr Chetan Ingole, Chief
Operating Officer, told Business Line here today.

The company has also applied for patenting the
software and the concept. Its revenue model is based
on online and offline advertisements. Each kiosk will
have 19-inch LCD monitors and high-speed Internet
access, with support staff. The outlay of the concept
would be borne by the companies looking to reach
out to the Internet surfers. 

Ahem! Management Solutions is a San Francisco-based
software firm specialising in developing Internet
traffic controlling software through wireless network.
The concept has been tested at a college here for 45
days. The NETHOTZONE portal is designed to promote
local content’s global reach. The content of the
Web site will be completely user-driven, Mr Ingole
said. 

With the mottos of “Freedom of Knowledge” and “Let the
Web be free”, NETHOTZONE is setting up two kiosks in
Ahmedabad in the next two weeks, followed by
those in Vadodara, Rajkot and Surat. These kiosks are
being set up at malls, colleges and other public
places, Mr Ravin Vyas, CEO and promoter of the
company,
earlier told presspersons. 

Along with the free Internet accessibility through
kiosks, the NETHOT user will also have access to
discount coupons and other deals of various brands.


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[AI] Today's Website

2007-12-05 Thread vishnu ramchandani
www.quizbrain.com

Today’s site has a bunch of quizzes on a variety of
topics: Movies, sports, literature, business, travel,
and even one for kids. You can also make your
own quiz and send it to your friends, as well as put
it up for other site visitors. Time to put on the
thinking cap, folks. 


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[AI] Visually-impaired to become RJs

2007-12-05 Thread vishnu ramchandani
Visually-impaired to become RJs

Dehra Dun: They may not be able to see, but they have
the gift-of-the-gab. And they may soon bring you all
the gossip, fun and music on your radio
sets. 

For a set of visually impaired people, the vision of
life goes much beyond just being able to see as they
gear up for a career in ‘Radio Jockeying’, thanks
to a course by National Institute for Visually
Handicapped (NIVH). 

“With the mushrooming of FM radios across thecountry,
opportunities for blind people have increased,” said
Anuradha Mohit, the director of NIVH, who is
also blind. 

“These people can also work as radio jockeys and in
broadcasting networks for which the centre will start
a broad-based course. Already the Chennai centre
of NIVH is providing a short-term course for enhancing
RJ skills”, she said. 

A similar course would commence shortly expecting to
train over 100 people, she said. Besides, NIVH is
planning to set up a new radio station. 

—PTI 


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Re: [AI] Sharing good News

2007-12-05 Thread Mohammed Asif Iqbal
Yes I am totally blind.
Why don't you write to me off the list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asif

- Original Message - 
From: FARHAN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sharing good News


but tell me one thing,are you totely blind?
and have your msn id?
or can you come on ftp?
- Original Message - 
From: Mohammed Asif Iqbal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sharing good News


 Hi Farhane,
 Salaam,
 Yes, I have done my MBa.  I have also done my b.com.  Well, I used Ms. Xl
 quite a bit for my accounts.  I was never good at accounts but I know few
 blind folks who are charter accountant in India.  Learn XL and it will
 take
 you  places.
 Keep in touch.
 Asif

 - Original Message - 
 From: FARHAN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Sharing good News


 assalamoalaikum friend,i want to ask somequestion from you,that how you
 can
 handle account? i saw a letter by AI(access indeia) that you have done
 M.B.A. i'm doing d-com,and i realised that i facing many problem with
 accounts. if you could help me,then i would very thankfull to you.
 yours sincerely,farhan.
 please do not mind my english mistakes,and if you see my any mistake in
 english,then please let me know!. i would try to remove it again.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mohammed Asif Iqbal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:25 PM
 Subject: [AI] Sharing good News


 Dear All,
 I was honored with state award for disability Role model  today, December
 3, 2007. this award was given by governor of West Bengal and it is
 sponsored by department of Social Welfare, women  Child development,
 government of West Bengal.
 Thanks and wish you all the best.
 Asif
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Re: [AI] Files not visible

2007-12-05 Thread Subramani L
IT is free and in the on-going FOSS.In event, which is for open source
community held in Bangalore, I saw the demo and was quite impressed. I
was told that it is as good as JAWS 5.1 version. Am awaiting a free copy
of it and want to see myself how good it is.

Subramani 



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Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Files not visible

o!,i want one thing from you,that the screan reader which is running in 
yabuntu absolutely free?
and where i can get yabuntu?/linix? please help me so that i can tried
it 
out.
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Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Files not visible


 Dear friends,
 adding on the joke,
 if not today tomorrow, Microsoft can really become murda.
 Ubuntu and the bundled screen reader orca is making good progress and
are 
 on
 their way to really threatening Windows and the screen readers.
 The problem that I have faced on Ubuntu and orca is brousing internet.
 The most positive aspect of Ubuntu is that, we don't have to depend 
 anybody
 to install it and we don't have to search for motherboard drivers to 
 enhance
 audio and video performance. Indeed, it has to make progress on
scanning 
 and
 sound editing.
 Though, there are more than useful software packages to fulfil these 
 needs,
 accessability is a problem at least for now.
 So, if we try to get in terms with ubuntu and orca, I don't think, it
will
 take too long to throw away the ever bug producing and virus
vulnerable
 windows.
 Dear folks, here, I would like to know how much of you have tasted
Ubuntu
 and orca.
 Important!
 I am not writing these words to offend any ideologies or to fume any
 argumentative debate on the list.
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 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Files not visible


 ha ha ha ha ha. how is microsoft is murdhaubaudh?
 has Windows Xp  been created from microsoft? if yes,then how is
microsoft
 is
 murdhaubaudh
 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. please do not say this words again. otherwise
 windows
 xp,which is elder sister of vista,will tell about these words.
 ha ha ha ha this is just like a joke! ha ha ha.
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 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:15 AM
 Subject: [AI] Files not visible


 Hi everyone,

 Here is the tricky question: Some of my MP3 files that I burnt to CD

 with
 XP
 is not visible in my new vista computer. The folder looks like
empty. 
 But
 those CDS are perfectly all right and I can use them very well with
XP. 
 I
 even tried copying those files to the flash disk, but the situation
is
 basically the same. Any solution? I used so many previous versions
of
 windows, but never encountered so much of troubles like vista.
Microsoft
 Murdhaubaudh!

 Vetri.
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Re: [AI] Fw: China marks International Day for Disabled

2007-12-05 Thread Subramani L
Although we can't simply believe everything that is publicised. As someone who 
had followed Chinese affairs for a long time I know that they adopted a hostile 
policy towards groups like PWD and gays.

Subramani 



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Hi this sounds good compare to Hyderabad
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Subject: China marks International Day for Disabled


China marks Int´l Day for Disabled

Source: CCTV.com | 12-04-2007 08:44
Monday was the 16th International Day for Disabled Persons, and to mark
the occasion a variety of activities were carried out across the country
to help the physically challenged.

The theme of this year's International Day for Disabled Persons is
Decent Work for Persons with Disabilities. Special job fairs were held
in Tianjin, Fujian, and Henan. A fair in Tianjin attracted over three
hundred disabled people on Monday alone. More than 160 jobs were on
offer, including positions for secretaries, accountants and technicians.
At least 40 applicants have signed contracts with the employers.

The disabled people's federation in Fujian held a special sports
meeting. More than 450 disabled people and 200 volunteers participated.

Guide dog trainers from China and Japan got together in Shanghai to
exchange their experiences. Organizers offered the visually impaired a
chance to apply to use the services of the guide dogs.

http://www.cctv.com/video/worldwidewatch/2007/12/worldwidewatch_300_20071
204_13.shtml
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[AI] FW: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-12-05 Thread Subramani L


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For Immediate Release   
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for online shopping and Karen Woodfork, director of student services,
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[AI] Betting on eXPerience over a vast Vista

2007-12-05 Thread Rajesh Asudani
Betting on eXPerience over a vast Vista

- PHOTO: AP

ONE YEAR LATER: The ?rst anniversary of the launch of Microsoft's ?agship 
operating system is in many ways a curious affair.

Last week marked one year since the release of Vista, the newest Windows 
version, for the business user. The consumer edition became available from end
January 2007. The ?rst anniversary of the launch of Microsoft's ?agship 
operating system is in many ways a curious affair.

Lack of enthusiasm

Nearly 90 million copies are said to have been sold, of all editions combined - 
and clearly this does not represent peanuts. So why are the cheers so muted;
the lack of enthusiasm, so palpable?

Industry watcher Gartner couches its comments diplomatically: The uptake of 
Vista in the PC installed base is taking longer than previously expected.


Others are more blunt: Many of the improvements that Vista offered over earlier 
versions - like the Aero interface that used 3-D-like imagery to making
the desktop experience better - was icing on the cake.

Great to have, provided the cake itself was perceived to be solid value for 
money. Unfortunately, Vista required many users to make costly hardware upgrades
to their PCs before they could experience the new look-and-feel.

If they did not, they were left with Vista without the bells-and-whistles and 
asked, with some reason, Why should I pay for this?

That was not all; Unlike earlier releases of Windows from Win 3.1, all the way 
through Windows 95 and Windows Me, Microsoft did not ( or could not) ensure
that at the time of Vista's release, the entire ecosystem that makes for a 
smooth transition in the operating system, was in position.

Thousands of lay users were annoyed to ?nd that Vista did not work with their 
printers and scanners and CD or DVD players - even models that were quite
new. They no longer had a choice of peripherals to choose from. Deciding to 
move to Vista effectively locked them into a small number of options - devices
that proclaimed that they were `Vista ready.'

Exaggerated claim

This claim often turned out to be exaggerated: the peripherals needed tweaking 
by a professional before they could be made to mate with a Vista PC.

Less than a year after the launch of the consumer editions of Vista, Microsoft 
is having to release the ?rst Service Pack or SP1, currently in a beta release
for professional testers.

It had originally planned to enforce a halt to the sale of the earlier Windows 
XP version from January 31 2008. But the reluctance of many users, both 
corporate
and consumer, to upgrade to Vista and the negative feedback it received from 
its resellers and PC assemblers, has forced the company to allow XP to be
preloaded on PCs till June 30 2008 - and for the XP Starter Edition being sold 
in emerging markets like India, to be loaded on machines till June 2010.


Piquant situation

With XP slated to be around for some more time to come, it had to be supported 
- so Microsoft has also released( in beta) the third Service Pack - SP3 -
for Windows XP. Now here is a piquant situation!

The technology media has widely reported an interesting benchmarking test 
carried out by researchers at a Florida (U.S.)-based software company, Devil 
Mountain
Software.

They pitted XP with SP3 against Vista with SP1 in a standard test and found 
that XP easily outperformed Vista, taking 35 seconds to Vista's 80.

Granted, these are tests with beta versions of the service packs and possibly 
not an indication of how things will perform when the ?nal versions are 
released;
granted this is one test by one company and it is always dif?cult to judge 
which benchmark to use... yet many are ready to read a message into this news.


For lay consumers agonising, Hamlet-like : To be or not to be, a Vista user, 
the message is: Let's not rush; let's stick with XP as long as we can.

And Microsoft seemingly finds itself in the unusual situation of a new product 
facing stiff competition from its own earlier version. Among business users,
the situation is more hazy: Last week, an analyst ?rm, King Research, found 
that an overwhelming 90 per cent of IT personnel polled, have some concerns
about Vista and nearly half have considered a non-Windows option.

However, another analyst, Forrester has suggested that use of non-Windows 
systems like Linux, was still minuscule - and at least half of the corporate 
world
planned to switch to Vista sometime in 2008.

Agonised questions

Meanwhile, guidance counsellors at tech sites are addressing agonised questions 
from ordinary PC owners, like: How do I downgrade from Windows Vista to
XP? (posted at C/ net) and I had a desktop and laptop both running Windows 
XP. Life was good. When I went shopping for a new laptop, I was told that
(it) came with Vista and I could not have it with XP. Is this true? (posted in 
the San Francisco Chronicle).

Such users are being told: Microsoft designs software to be backward compatible 
- you can upgrade an XP 

[AI] new device for home based internet entertainment

2007-12-05 Thread Rajesh Asudani
HYDERABAD: IN a breakthrough that can make internet-based home entertainment 
more affordable, a Hyderabad-based company has developed a technology to deliver
web-based services through a single integrated device. The new device, called 
@Box, is reckoned as an affordable replacement for home entertainment Personal
Computer. It is the result of an innovative research by engineers at IChips 
India Limited which has filed a patent for it.

At present, users have different devices like TV, phone and computer for 
accessing different services. With the new device, one can integrate these 
devices
and can access web services on TV or entertainment services on computer. The 
new hybrid device, offering internet-based entertainment, education and 
communication
services, comes with a remote keyboard, mouse and joystick interfaces. Users 
can also access 3D game, videoconferencing, Internet Protocol Television (IPTV)
and Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIp) services with the device.to be priced 
at just 100 US dollar per device, it can help in dramatically increasing
internet penetration in the country, the Chairman and Managing Director of the 
company K A Padmanabham said. The company plans to start commercial production
of the new low-cost device by March next year and deploy it in a million 
households within one year. It is also looking at partnering with telecom and
broadband service providers including BSNL, MTNL and Bharti for launching 
service like IPTV and VoIP. Unlike a PC, it is east to operate. The hardware,
operating system and the software are developed by our company, Padmanabham 
said.The company has filed four patents for the technology and has invested
about Rs 10 crore for developing the technology. We are in talks with 
manufacturers in South Korea, Thailand and China for manufacturing the device. 
We
are also looking at the possibility of manufacturing it in India,'' the 
company's Chief Technology Officer Kota Bhaskar.The @Box has the capability of
being configured as an IPTV/satellite set-top-box with a few optional 
accessories.



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Re: [AI] On laptops and Operating Systems

2007-12-05 Thread Aruni Sharma
Of what little I have  experienced on a mac machine, I can say that the 
screen reader for mac that you are refering to is  the lowest in terms 
of accessibility. Ubuntu and orca are good and I have spoken about the 
difficulties in my previous mail to the list.
Thanks


Sudhir R (NeSTIT) wrote:
 Hi folks !

 I have been following the various threads on AI dealing with laptops and the 
 various OSs like Windows Vista, Windows XP, Ubuntu etc and am utterly 
 confused as to the right choice (if there is something like that) since I am 
 myself contemplating the purchase of a laptop.

 On the one hand, most reputed manufacturers (except Dell) seem to have 
 stopped shipping XP-based machines, while Vista is a real pain from what 
 Vetri and Syed have been reporting and I discovered myself.  Ubuntu seems to 
 be good from the point of view of immunity from malware though I am not too 
 sure whether we have a good eco-system  to support us like a large community 
 of blind users, applications for use in a business environment etc.  We 
 cannot take political decisions on matters of OS, you know, just because Open 
 Source is the latest fad and we all love to hate Bill Gates. (smile)

 What about iMacs, laptops running Mac OSX, which, I understand, is a Linux 
 variant and equally immune from malware.  I remember reading somewhere that 
 Mac OSX comes bundled with a screen reader, and, since it is a proprietory 
 product, getting support from the company will be easy.  The only remaining 
 question is whether we have a community of blind Mac users (either in India 
 or abroad) to pose queries to, as we do in AI ?

 Pl share your views and experiences on iMac, Mac OSX, the bundled screen 
 reader and the eco-system.  Would request someone like Vetri, who is in the 
 Apple country and purchased a laptop recently, to tell us why he opted for 
 one running Bill's latest (still-born ?) baby ?

 Thanks and rgds

 RS
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Re: [AI] Today's Website

2007-12-05 Thread vinod benjamin
Dear sir,
  Thanks the site is very useful to me.
Regards
Benjamin.

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www.quizbrain.com

Today's site has a bunch of quizzes on a variety of
topics: Movies, sports, literature, business, travel,
and even one for kids. You can also make your
own quiz and send it to your friends, as well as put
it up for other site visitors. Time to put on the
thinking cap, folks. 


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