Re: [AI] Did you hear the one about the computer with a sense ofhumour?
The problem is: humour is such a natural and instantaneous thing that any attempt to study it in slow-motion would make a boring analysis of it. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mufazal munshi Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 2:01 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Did you hear the one about the computer with a sense ofhumour? that article is not at all funny!! i think i will add a tickle or two to it!! it is so long that i almost fell asleep trying to understand the technical study involved!! no offense meant to the sender please!! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! - Original Message - From: Sanjay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: [AI] Did you hear the one about the computer with a sense of humour? The article below is pasted from New Scientist Nov. 24. Did you hear the one about the computer with a sense of humour?; A physicist has proposed a model explaining how information processing in the brain leads to humour - and it could herald computers able to tell jokes Mark Buchanan DID you hear the one about the computer with a sense of humour? Didn't think so. Computers can do many things, but stand-up comedy is not one of them. Yet the idea that computers can be witty might not be all that far-fetched. Perhaps machines need not be conscious to understand humour, and even to invent and tell jokes. Physicist Igor Suslov of the Kapitza Institute for Physical Problems in Moscow, Russia, has designed a computer model which he says explains the evolution of humour. Our ability to experience humour, he suggests, ultimately depends on quirks in how the brain handles information. As a student, Suslov performed in the university theatre. We didn't have much time to write our plays, he recalls. I began to wonder if it might be possible to create jokes more or less automatically. He didn't work out how back then, but he never forgot the problem. Now he thinks he sees at least the broad outline of how humour works and why it evolved in the first place. Verbal jokes, Suslov suggests, work by drawing the mind into error. It first settles on one meaning, and then has to correct itself and see another. Take this joke, for example: Father (reprovingly): Do you know what happens to liars when they die? Johnny: Yes sir, they lie still. The wit of the line comes from the way the brain pirouettes to interpret lie in two different ways. This kind of error, Suslov argues, is at the root of most humour, and stems from a fundamental difficulty the brain faces when trying to interpret incoming data. Whether it's words, sounds or visual images, the brain has to link incoming information to patterns it knows from experience. Much of this process takes place unconsciously. Only when the brain settles on an interpretation for a chunk of data does it send that interpretation into consciousness, where it might prompt action. As Suslov points out, however, to make rapid decisions, the brain often has to settle quickly on an interpretation without enough information to be sure it is the correct one. Yet it must also remain ready to take advantage of further data streaming in, which may lead to a better interpretation. Consequently, he says, there's just no way a well-functioning brain can entirely avoid making these errors of interpretation. The nature of the processing algorithm makes mistakes inevitable. And that, he claims, also makes humour inevitable. He argues that humour is the brain's way of dealing with such errors: a rapid emotional response makes us aware of a mistake, and brings new information into consciousness especially swiftly. Its biological function, says Suslov, is to make brain operations more efficient. We laugh as the brain squirms its way out of a contradictory state. Suslov hasn't yet made a computer that laughs, but he has proposed a specific computational model, based on a neural network, that would mimic the information processing he describes, and necessarily be prone to the same recognition errors (www.arxiv.org/abs/0711.2058 ). Ultimately, he suggests, there may be no reason why we won't be able to program computers to tell and understand jokes . The idea is consistent with what we know about the brain, says neuroscientist Peter Latham of University College London, but it is not clear from Suslov's work why it should be humour that is linked to the processing difficulty he describes. There are lots of positive emotions that might play the required role, he says. And why, he wonders, if humour evolved to solve an internal processing problem, does it involve an outward physical display, such as laughter, that others can see? That characteristic of the humour response, according to biologist David Sloan Wilson of Binghamton
Re: [AI] excise duty exemption
In most legislations the term is kept conveniently and deliberately vague and if you ask the relevant authorities, you will be told that visual impairment is either included or not (in a rule/law), according to bureaucratic understanding Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:05 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] excise duty exemption Isn't blindness included in the category of a physical handicap? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anjali Arora Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:47 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] excise duty exemption well the circular only uses the word physically handicap moreover this dates back to the times when cars were never customised for locomotor disabilities. so if uncustomised cars are given to O.H. without charging excise duty then why can't the same be given to vi? anyway I justwant to know if anyone has tried this relaxation and if so with what consequence. else, I am going to do something about it. regards - Original Message - From: Prof. S. R. Mittal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [AI] excise duty exemption Dear friends. As far as I know the exumption is only for the locomotor handicapped. If it is available to the blind or visually impaired? Mittal. - Original Message - From: Pranav Lal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [AI] excise duty exemption I did buy a car in my name but did not know about this. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anjali Arora Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:03 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] excise duty exemption friends has anyone of you ever taken the excise duty exemption to buy a new car in your name? if yes, please contact me off the list for further correspondance. for others who might be interested in the topic, i'd just like to provide the information that there is an exemption of excise duty for physically handicape on buying a new car in their name. this relaxation is full of hidden meanings which I'll take up at appropriate forum after I have complete information. generally speaking, this exemption is given to o.h. and not to vi. so please let me know if anyone tried buying a new car in their name and has taken or were not given the exemption in excise duty. much thanks To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] navigating like webpage in MS Word
Thanks my friend its working - Original Message - From: Jeet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [AI] navigating like webpage in MS Word Hello abdul, the JAWS feature: Navigation quick keys, starting from JAWS 7 Toggle: Insert+Z. offers the same thing in word. hope this helps, regards, Jitendra from Delhi. -- Contact: Direct-cell: +919213153776 Skype: Jeet.delhi The Scourge Of Authoritarianism Is Intellectualism. Quoting Abdul Razique Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello list members, Is there any jaws setting by which we can navigate in a word document like we do in a webpage. for instance, pressing the P key takes us to the next paragraph. I am expecting a solution to this querry. Thanks in anticipation Abdul To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Get a free email account with anti spam protection. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/2 To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] inactivity after start up
Dear Anjali, Try this, it may work. go to run and type msconfig and hit enter, then tab to startup and select disable all. then restart your computer, jaws will start immediately after windows open. regards, rajesh. - Original Message - From: Anjali Arora [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [AI] inactivity after start up may be. but jaws begins after a lot of gap after the window sound..it leaves me wondering! the thing is, it has begun to happen only recently. is there something wrong somewhere? how can I make the system become faster? thanks - Original Message - From: Dr. Rohit Trivedi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [AI] inactivity after start up The reason may be that your computer tries to run some software in the background. perhaps an antivirus or spyware etc Rohit - Original Message - From: Anjali Arora [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:08 PM Subject: [AI] inactivity after start up friends, my system becomes inactive after start up process is completed. it doesn't happen alwaysbut whenever it does I don't know what is the best thing to do. I restart the computer from the switch on the cpu. please suggest solution and prefered course of action. it stops after jaws begins. can anyone explain this and suggest what should be done to keep the system running with certinity? I've noticed that it is beginning to take longer time to boot and to shut down. help please. by the way i update AVG on daily basis. so what's the problem and what's the solution? thanks To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Information needed about usher's syndrome
Dear Friends - I wanted to know about usherÂ’s syndrome- what are the symptoms and preventable steps etc. Can I read about it online? Your reply will really oblige me - with best wishes and good luck, Shadab Husain Love is seldom mutual Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/ To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] on line courses
Hi Sir, this is another email address, and it is better sending on it because this I got from her forwarded mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love is seldom mutual Save all your chat conversations. Find them online at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Ubuntu 7.10 Live CD.
Hello friends, I saw lot of discussion about ubantu in our group. Can some buddy tel me what is ubantu? With regards, Your friend, M. Suresh Kumar. - Original Message - From: hello gold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Ubuntu 7.10 Live CD. hello will you send me ubantu threw e mail i am dev? On 12/13/07, prakash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: first insert the cd in cd rom when boot from cd/dvd rom message shows press enter than a message shows like press f1 for help f2 for vga setting and than press f5 for accessibility a combo box shows like megnifier ,on-screen keyboard ,screenreader , press three times down arrow to select to screenreader and enter on it make confirm your selection is screen reader and wait after some time orca start speaking but some computers takes more time to loading the ubuntu depends on computers hardware like ram / cpu / free hard disk space but its loading after finesh loading orca speaking some commands for do normal tasksin ubuntu ault+control+d to go desktop ault+f1 to go start menu but its start menu is diffrent to windows start menu its divide in three panels likes windows menus bar press left arrow and right arrow to select to menu than down arrow to open menu ault+ f2 to opens run menu ault+1to 0 also do tasks likes open web brosser ,opens mail cliaint and so on insert+f1 opens orca's menu anywhere ault+f4 to close the program if you do not start orca on booting time you can do after booting 1. press ault+f2 to open the run menu 2 type orca in edit box 3. press enter orca will start speaking this is short list of commands hope this is helpful for you - Original Message - From: Subramani L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Ubuntu 7.10 Live CD. Same here. An enthusiastic prof from a local engineering college gave me a live cd copy. I followed the instructions of Balaram to try to make Orca speak, but failed. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harish Kotian Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:00 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Ubuntu 7.10 Live CD. Hi Amiyo Incidently, I too tried it today on a live CD. It did not speak. I guess we need to install it first. Interesting with this version, we can start the installation process from the Ubuntu desktop. I did not go ahead with it, do to lack of time for it. Harish. - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Ubuntu 7.10 Live CD. Hello, I have changed the subject line though this is a reply, or rather a question on an old thread. I have downloaded the Ubuntu 7.10 live cd image. I have burned the cd also. How can I run it? It takes too much time to load. I have also failed to activate the speech in Orca. Please help. Best regards, Amiyo. Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Balaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Files not visible ubuntu itself is absolutely free and the screen reader Orca is bundled with it. You can download the latest version of ubuntu by going to ubuntu.com or you can request for a free CD. If you prefer to download Ubuntu, you should then write it to a CD which you can use to install Ubuntu. - Original Message - From: FARHAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Files not visible o!,i want one thing from you,that the screan reader which is running in yabuntu absolutely free? and where i can get yabuntu?/linix? please help me so that i can tried it out. - Original Message - From: Balaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Files not visible Dear friends, adding on the joke, if not today tomorrow, Microsoft can really become murda. Ubuntu and the bundled screen reader orca is making good progress and are on their way to really threatening Windows and the screen readers. The problem that I have faced on Ubuntu and orca is brousing internet. The most positive aspect of Ubuntu is that, we don't have to depend anybody to install it and we don't have to search for motherboard drivers to enhance audio and video performance. Indeed, it has to make progress on scanning and sound editing. Though, there are more than useful software packages to fulfil these needs, accessability is a
Re: [AI] courses on line
Dear friend, Can you please explain how to join this online courses ? With regards, M. Suresh Kumar. - Original Message - From: Prof. S. R. Mittal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 6:50 PM Subject: [AI] courses on line Dear friends. This is in continuation of my previous e-mail on the subject mentioned above. Ann foundation wants that those who are interested in pursuing on line courses may write to one of us preferably the moderator who in turn can send all the details to Ann Foundation. similarly, the suggestions to be included in her letter to the pressident of India and the Minister of I T for promoting education of children with blindnessmay also be forwarded to him or me. I suggest to the the list members to make use of this opportunity as the courses on line are very useful and free of cost. With regards yours sincerely Mittal. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Online Courses
Dear AI Members, This is a information regarding online courses. I am sending the mail which I got from ANN Foundation. With Regards, Hi Amar, Greetings from New York Ann Foundation is not offering on line classes but we are trying to connect you with schools which are offering free on line classes. I will soon send you the information so that you can register Regards Ann Ann Moideen Founder CEO Ann Foundation Inc 20 Old Shelter Rock Road Roslyn,New York 11576 Ph 516-570-0088 Fax 516-570-0088 www.annfoundation.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AMAR JAIN. MOBILE:+91 99298 79006. EMAILS:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Members getting automatically unsubscribed
Hello all I got messages of large number of our members getting unsubscribed. I suspect, there is some problems at the server or something like that. If it happens to you or your friends, pl ask them to subscribe again. Harish. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] CPU is making a lot of noise
Hi Friends - For the last few days when I boot my computer for the first time in morning, it makes a lot of noise. I guess that it is the CPU fan which is making it. I had to restart my computer to get rid from it, and after that, it works fine. It happens every morning - before my breakfast! Can you tell what is it? Be good. Shadab Husain Love is seldom mutual 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Are you ready for a PC-cum-TV?
Are you ready for a PC-cum-TV? The HP TouchSmart IQ770 is a clear indication of a PC's evolution path. It has a touch-screen interface and also doubles up as a TV, personal video recorder and MP3/CD/DVD player. The guts of the HP TouchSmart IQ770 are laptop-like components that have been custom-fitted into a compact desktop unit. The base unit houses an Asus motherboard built around an Nvidia GeForce Go 6100 chipset, a dual-core AMD Turion 64 processor running at 1.6GHz, 2GB of dual-channel DDR 2 memory (a realistic amount to run the full version of Vista) and GeForce Go 7600 graphics with 256MB of dedicated RAM. The TouchSmart's 19-inch widescreen display functions as both a viewing screen and a navigation tool. Microsoft's Tablet PC concept produced a lot of smoke, but precious little to fire the imagination. The trouble is, touchscreens are expensive to implement, and the Windows Desktop graphic user interface is, sadly, inadequate for the average prodding finger. With Touchsmart, HP seems to have realised that there is a need to make some software intervention to make a touchscreen Windows PC work and while Vista's interface scaling makes a big difference in itself, it's HP's SmartCentre software (essentially a plug-in for Vista's improved Media Centre interface) that adds the smart touch. Touch the 'Home' button on the to launch it, and a set of big, friendly icons greets the user, ready to be customised. It's fun to see the HP PhotoSmart Touch application turning the PC into a digital photo print station, kind of like the one you see at your local shopping mall. Put a HP PhotoSmart A510 compact printer behind the screen and the photos slide out of the slot under the screen. Very cool stuff. HP has built a PC that competes with the current benchmark system, the Apple iMac, at least when it comes to design. In fact, for the most part, HP hopes that people would use the TouchSmart as a 'screen' rather than a PC -- the mouse and keyboard can be neatly tucked away and the screen can be angled to be comfortably accessible from a standing position. For watching TV or DVD, the screen will move straight on, and one can retire to a more comfortable spot with the Media Centre remote. For playing music or listening to the radio, there's a keyboard button combination for turning off the screen, although it would be better to have a hardware switch on the unit itself. There are plenty of other buttons on the chassis, including volume and transport controls. The speakers are good too -- expect the same quality as with a TV. The system, on the whole, produces above average performance when set alongside comparably-priced systems and HP Touchsmart IQ770 is no impulse buy at Rs 99,990. Then again, you really should expect to get less performance for your money when you consider the sheer convenience and usability of the touchscreen technology. (Sweety Bhalla) Assistant Manager IFCI LTD New Delhi India E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] navigating like webpage in MS Word
Use caps lock and the following letters together y- next sentence n- previous sentence H- for current sentnce u- next line i-current line o- previous line j- next word k-current word l- previus word Insert+down arrow for say all. The above keys are for laptops For desk top, use insert key and all te number lock keys for the same. Hope this helps, K. Sriram Abdul Razique Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list members, Is there any jaws setting by which we can navigate in a word document like we do in a webpage. for instance, pressing the P key takes us to the next paragraph. I am expecting a solution to this querry. Thanks in anticipation Abdul To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in - Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] test
please reply to my personal id if the message reaches the group. Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] a problem in opening the links in the hindu
Try deleting history and all the other temporary internet files. You'll find them under internet options. Vetri. - Original Message - From: renuka warriar To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 1:21 AM Subject: [AI] a problem in opening the links in the hindu Hi friends, I used to read the Hindu news paper every day, but from yesterday onwards, whenever I tried to open the links of the states, this dialogue appears Error - http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pag... We can't find http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pag...; Error - Invalid syntax http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/ads?client=ca-pub-6238405171313215dt=1197439591500lmt=1197409562prev_fmts=468x60_ Find It. What could be the meaning of it? Does everybody face this problem? Is there any remedy for it? Hoping for a favourable reply, Renuka. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Test mail please ignore
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Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india
Samarthanam , Matruchaya and NAB started computer education in Bangalore. You could write to them for more details. In Chennai, NIVH and Ability foundation have computer traning centers. You should not only discuss about English computer education but also regional language education. IITM and some other institituions developed this software. Vidya Vriksha taught this to interested students (as far as IITM software.) Central Univesrity Hyderabad has a center along with CEFOL. Best wishes, K. Sriram Subramani L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a pitty that no one got write a book on the subject. Besides academic interest, this would serve as an authentic record for the work done in India. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vetrivel Adhimoolam Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india I think that's correct. Also I have to say that NAB Delhi played a crucial role in identifying and prioritizing appropriate screen reading softwares for visually challenged in India. Say for example the hole transition from MS das to Windows based screen readers like JAWS. So computer education for visually challenged should also be analyzed in the context of the evolution of the screen readers themselves. - Original Message - From: Dinesh Kaushal To: 'K Ramkrishna' ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Well I took training in NAB delhi in May 1996, and I think NAB delhi started it in 1995 or 1994, I am sure it started in or before 1995 Regards Dinesh Kaushal blog at dineshkaushal.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K Ramkrishna Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:14 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Dear Vimal, I may not be able to tell you the entire story of computer education for the blind in India. But, I would like to mention that the Indian Association for the Visually Handicap (IAVH) in Mumbai, started the first such venture in our country in November 1997. The project was funded by IDBI and HDFC bank and the center was established at the university clubhouse in Churchgate Mumbai. Mr. Ram Agarwal of Karishma Enterprises, Mr. Prakash Didwania, Mr. Arwind Bhartia and myself were the founder trusties of IAVH and our mission was to avail the access and other technology products and services to the blind and these shouldn't be denied to them, just because they couldn't afford such expensive things. Subsequently, Victoria Memorial school for the blind with the support of IBM and Voice Vision of Mumbai started computer education for the blind. NAB New Delhi also has such facilities. IAVH also started this in Huydrabad, but this couldn't be run for long. Rest, other members can respond. - Original Message - From: vimaldengla To: Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 3:44 PM Subject: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india dear friends, please tell me the details about the computer education for the blind, when was it started and who played the main role in starting the computer education in India. please send me the complete history of the computer education of the blind in India. you can send the reply to my personal id [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] from vimal dengla mob. 09414244549. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org .in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in - 5, 50, 500,
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Folks: Yesterday, there was a talk delivered by one Dr. Agarwal from the US about artificial retinal implant. The talk was organised by Narayana Nethralaya in Bangalore and the discussion was about how the implant works (I am awaiting more details on this) and the doctor seem to have spoken about some success stories in the US. He also informed my friend, who attended the talk, that researches are going on in Switzerland, Germany and Japan (which is taking a different approach to the treatment) and artificial implant is likely to be the path breaking one to cure RP, though other approaches like stem cells are also being tried by doctors across the globe. I would share with you the treatment details once I get it and also keep you posted about how one can avail the treatment in the US, so that at least some of us can try it out. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sriram kalyanaraman Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:37 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Samarthanam , Matruchaya and NAB started computer education in Bangalore. You could write to them for more details. In Chennai, NIVH and Ability foundation have computer traning centers. You should not only discuss about English computer education but also regional language education. IITM and some other institituions developed this software. Vidya Vriksha taught this to interested students (as far as IITM software.) Central Univesrity Hyderabad has a center along with CEFOL. Best wishes, K. Sriram Subramani L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a pitty that no one got write a book on the subject. Besides academic interest, this would serve as an authentic record for the work done in India. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vetrivel Adhimoolam Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india I think that's correct. Also I have to say that NAB Delhi played a crucial role in identifying and prioritizing appropriate screen reading softwares for visually challenged in India. Say for example the hole transition from MS das to Windows based screen readers like JAWS. So computer education for visually challenged should also be analyzed in the context of the evolution of the screen readers themselves. - Original Message - From: Dinesh Kaushal To: 'K Ramkrishna' ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Well I took training in NAB delhi in May 1996, and I think NAB delhi started it in 1995 or 1994, I am sure it started in or before 1995 Regards Dinesh Kaushal blog at dineshkaushal.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K Ramkrishna Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:14 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Dear Vimal, I may not be able to tell you the entire story of computer education for the blind in India. But, I would like to mention that the Indian Association for the Visually Handicap (IAVH) in Mumbai, started the first such venture in our country in November 1997. The project was funded by IDBI and HDFC bank and the center was established at the university clubhouse in Churchgate Mumbai. Mr. Ram Agarwal of Karishma Enterprises, Mr. Prakash Didwania, Mr. Arwind Bhartia and myself were the founder trusties of IAVH and our mission was to avail the access and other technology products and services to the blind and these shouldn't be denied to them, just because they couldn't afford such expensive things. Subsequently, Victoria Memorial school for the blind with the support of IBM and Voice Vision of Mumbai started computer education for the blind. NAB New Delhi also has such facilities. IAVH also started this in Huydrabad, but this couldn't be run for long. Rest, other members can respond. - Original Message - From: vimaldengla To: Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 3:44 PM Subject: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india dear friends, please tell me the details about the computer education for the blind, when was it started and who played the main role in starting the computer education in India. please send me the complete history of the computer education of the blind in India. you can send the reply to my personal id [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] from vimal dengla mob. 09414244549. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org .in
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That's indeed correct. But the crucial point is though, very few organizations have played a major role in making visually challenged mostly to be independent users by effectively teaching them basic Windows and some other softwares. Some of such organizations even went a step ahead in providing lones for buying computers. Those are actual landmarks and a historical look at computer education certainly needs to acknowledge this face. Another significant element is that the computer education itself being sadly misused by some visually challenged users. For example it has come to my notice that some actually tried charging thousands of rupees just for installing JAWS for new visually challenged users. So a true history of computer education in my view should take in to account this exploitative element as well. - Original Message - From: sriram kalyanaraman To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:07 AM Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Samarthanam , Matruchaya and NAB started computer education in Bangalore. You could write to them for more details. In Chennai, NIVH and Ability foundation have computer traning centers. You should not only discuss about English computer education but also regional language education. IITM and some other institituions developed this software. Vidya Vriksha taught this to interested students (as far as IITM software.) Central Univesrity Hyderabad has a center along with CEFOL. Best wishes, K. Sriram Subramani L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a pitty that no one got write a book on the subject. Besides academic interest, this would serve as an authentic record for the work done in India. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vetrivel Adhimoolam Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india I think that's correct. Also I have to say that NAB Delhi played a crucial role in identifying and prioritizing appropriate screen reading softwares for visually challenged in India. Say for example the hole transition from MS das to Windows based screen readers like JAWS. So computer education for visually challenged should also be analyzed in the context of the evolution of the screen readers themselves. - Original Message - From: Dinesh Kaushal To: 'K Ramkrishna' ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Well I took training in NAB delhi in May 1996, and I think NAB delhi started it in 1995 or 1994, I am sure it started in or before 1995 Regards Dinesh Kaushal blog at dineshkaushal.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K Ramkrishna Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:14 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Dear Vimal, I may not be able to tell you the entire story of computer education for the blind in India. But, I would like to mention that the Indian Association for the Visually Handicap (IAVH) in Mumbai, started the first such venture in our country in November 1997. The project was funded by IDBI and HDFC bank and the center was established at the university clubhouse in Churchgate Mumbai. Mr. Ram Agarwal of Karishma Enterprises, Mr. Prakash Didwania, Mr. Arwind Bhartia and myself were the founder trusties of IAVH and our mission was to avail the access and other technology products and services to the blind and these shouldn't be denied to them, just because they couldn't afford such expensive things. Subsequently, Victoria Memorial school for the blind with the support of IBM and Voice Vision of Mumbai started computer education for the blind. NAB New Delhi also has such facilities. IAVH also started this in Huydrabad, but this couldn't be run for long. Rest, other members can respond. - Original Message - From: vimaldengla To: Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 3:44 PM Subject: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india dear friends, please tell me the details about the computer education for the blind, when was it started and who played the main role in starting the computer education in India. please send me the complete history of the computer education of the blind in India. you can send the reply to my personal id [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] from vimal dengla mob. 09414244549. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org .in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change
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Hello, I think, Computer was used by the vlind people in the early nineties in India. As far as I heard, K. Ramkrishna was one of the early users. Harish kotian also used the DOS-based tiny talk in the nineties. As regards Kolkata, NAB started here a small venture in 1992 or 1993. But it did not continue for long and I never found anybody using a pc until 2000 in Kolkata. In fact, computer was too costly in the nineties for personal use. NAB again started computer education here in the year 2000 and I was a student of that year. Mohammed Asif Iqbal, a fellow member on our list, was our teacher at NAB. I hope, Harish and Ramkrishna will be able to tell more about the beginning of computer education in India. Best regards, Amiyo. Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: sriram kalyanaraman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Samarthanam , Matruchaya and NAB started computer education in Bangalore. You could write to them for more details. In Chennai, NIVH and Ability foundation have computer traning centers. You should not only discuss about English computer education but also regional language education. IITM and some other institituions developed this software. Vidya Vriksha taught this to interested students (as far as IITM software.) Central Univesrity Hyderabad has a center along with CEFOL. Best wishes, K. Sriram Subramani L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a pitty that no one got write a book on the subject. Besides academic interest, this would serve as an authentic record for the work done in India. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vetrivel Adhimoolam Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india I think that's correct. Also I have to say that NAB Delhi played a crucial role in identifying and prioritizing appropriate screen reading softwares for visually challenged in India. Say for example the hole transition from MS das to Windows based screen readers like JAWS. So computer education for visually challenged should also be analyzed in the context of the evolution of the screen readers themselves. - Original Message - From: Dinesh Kaushal To: 'K Ramkrishna' ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Well I took training in NAB delhi in May 1996, and I think NAB delhi started it in 1995 or 1994, I am sure it started in or before 1995 Regards Dinesh Kaushal blog at dineshkaushal.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K Ramkrishna Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:14 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Dear Vimal, I may not be able to tell you the entire story of computer education for the blind in India. But, I would like to mention that the Indian Association for the Visually Handicap (IAVH) in Mumbai, started the first such venture in our country in November 1997. The project was funded by IDBI and HDFC bank and the center was established at the university clubhouse in Churchgate Mumbai. Mr. Ram Agarwal of Karishma Enterprises, Mr. Prakash Didwania, Mr. Arwind Bhartia and myself were the founder trusties of IAVH and our mission was to avail the access and other technology products and services to the blind and these shouldn't be denied to them, just because they couldn't afford such expensive things. Subsequently, Victoria Memorial school for the blind with the support of IBM and Voice Vision of Mumbai started computer education for the blind. NAB New Delhi also has such facilities. IAVH also started this in Huydrabad, but this couldn't be run for long. Rest, other members can respond. - Original Message - From: vimaldengla To: Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 3:44 PM Subject: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india dear friends, please tell me the details about the computer education for the blind, when was it started and who played the main role in starting the computer education in India. please send me the complete history of the computer education of the blind in India. you can send the reply to my personal id [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] from vimal dengla mob. 09414244549. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org .in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
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In my view, artificial retina is not as good an option as stem cell, as stem cell help to develop our own retina rather than an external device implanted in our eyes. I also feel (I may be wrong) that once external devices added in our eyes, it would be harder to switch to natural development of retina. Regards Dinesh Kaushal blog at dineshkaushal.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Subramani L Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:12 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] important information Folks: Yesterday, there was a talk delivered by one Dr. Agarwal from the US about artificial retinal implant. The talk was organised by Narayana Nethralaya in Bangalore and the discussion was about how the implant works (I am awaiting more details on this) and the doctor seem to have spoken about some success stories in the US. He also informed my friend, who attended the talk, that researches are going on in Switzerland, Germany and Japan (which is taking a different approach to the treatment) and artificial implant is likely to be the path breaking one to cure RP, though other approaches like stem cells are also being tried by doctors across the globe. I would share with you the treatment details once I get it and also keep you posted about how one can avail the treatment in the US, so that at least some of us can try it out. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sriram kalyanaraman Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:37 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Samarthanam , Matruchaya and NAB started computer education in Bangalore. You could write to them for more details. In Chennai, NIVH and Ability foundation have computer traning centers. You should not only discuss about English computer education but also regional language education. IITM and some other institituions developed this software. Vidya Vriksha taught this to interested students (as far as IITM software.) Central Univesrity Hyderabad has a center along with CEFOL. Best wishes, K. Sriram Subramani L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a pitty that no one got write a book on the subject. Besides academic interest, this would serve as an authentic record for the work done in India. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vetrivel Adhimoolam Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india I think that's correct. Also I have to say that NAB Delhi played a crucial role in identifying and prioritizing appropriate screen reading softwares for visually challenged in India. Say for example the hole transition from MS das to Windows based screen readers like JAWS. So computer education for visually challenged should also be analyzed in the context of the evolution of the screen readers themselves. - Original Message - From: Dinesh Kaushal To: 'K Ramkrishna' ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Well I took training in NAB delhi in May 1996, and I think NAB delhi started it in 1995 or 1994, I am sure it started in or before 1995 Regards Dinesh Kaushal blog at dineshkaushal.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K Ramkrishna Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:14 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Dear Vimal, I may not be able to tell you the entire story of computer education for the blind in India. But, I would like to mention that the Indian Association for the Visually Handicap (IAVH) in Mumbai, started the first such venture in our country in November 1997. The project was funded by IDBI and HDFC bank and the center was established at the university clubhouse in Churchgate Mumbai. Mr. Ram Agarwal of Karishma Enterprises, Mr. Prakash Didwania, Mr. Arwind Bhartia and myself were the founder trusties of IAVH and our mission was to avail the access and other technology products and services to the blind and these shouldn't be denied to them, just because they couldn't afford such expensive things. Subsequently, Victoria Memorial school for the blind with the support of IBM and Voice Vision of Mumbai started computer education for the blind. NAB New Delhi also has such facilities. IAVH also started this in Huydrabad, but this couldn't be run for long. Rest, other members can respond. - Original Message - From: vimaldengla To: Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 3:44 PM Subject: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india dear friends, please tell me the details about the computer education for the
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That may be right, but if you consider purely where the breakthrough is happening it seems to be in artificial implant. Though some of us could wait until stem cells make enough progress to become a reliable method of treating retinal conditions, others, who may not have age on their side, can consider this treatment. In my view, stem cells and artificial implants shouldn't be looked at as competing approaches. Instead both should be available for people who should be able to choose between them depending on their physical condition and medical advice. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dinesh Kaushal Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:39 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] important information In my view, artificial retina is not as good an option as stem cell, as stem cell help to develop our own retina rather than an external device implanted in our eyes. I also feel (I may be wrong) that once external devices added in our eyes, it would be harder to switch to natural development of retina. Regards Dinesh Kaushal blog at dineshkaushal.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Subramani L Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:12 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] important information Folks: Yesterday, there was a talk delivered by one Dr. Agarwal from the US about artificial retinal implant. The talk was organised by Narayana Nethralaya in Bangalore and the discussion was about how the implant works (I am awaiting more details on this) and the doctor seem to have spoken about some success stories in the US. He also informed my friend, who attended the talk, that researches are going on in Switzerland, Germany and Japan (which is taking a different approach to the treatment) and artificial implant is likely to be the path breaking one to cure RP, though other approaches like stem cells are also being tried by doctors across the globe. I would share with you the treatment details once I get it and also keep you posted about how one can avail the treatment in the US, so that at least some of us can try it out. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sriram kalyanaraman Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:37 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Samarthanam , Matruchaya and NAB started computer education in Bangalore. You could write to them for more details. In Chennai, NIVH and Ability foundation have computer traning centers. You should not only discuss about English computer education but also regional language education. IITM and some other institituions developed this software. Vidya Vriksha taught this to interested students (as far as IITM software.) Central Univesrity Hyderabad has a center along with CEFOL. Best wishes, K. Sriram Subramani L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a pitty that no one got write a book on the subject. Besides academic interest, this would serve as an authentic record for the work done in India. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vetrivel Adhimoolam Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india I think that's correct. Also I have to say that NAB Delhi played a crucial role in identifying and prioritizing appropriate screen reading softwares for visually challenged in India. Say for example the hole transition from MS das to Windows based screen readers like JAWS. So computer education for visually challenged should also be analyzed in the context of the evolution of the screen readers themselves. - Original Message - From: Dinesh Kaushal To: 'K Ramkrishna' ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Well I took training in NAB delhi in May 1996, and I think NAB delhi started it in 1995 or 1994, I am sure it started in or before 1995 Regards Dinesh Kaushal blog at dineshkaushal.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K Ramkrishna Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:14 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india Dear Vimal, I may not be able to tell you the entire story of computer education for the blind in India. But, I would like to mention that the Indian Association for the Visually Handicap (IAVH) in Mumbai, started the first such venture in our country in November 1997. The project was funded by IDBI and HDFC bank and the center was established at the university clubhouse in Churchgate Mumbai. Mr. Ram Agarwal of Karishma Enterprises, Mr. Prakash