Re: [AI] Update on Talking ATM

2013-01-20 Thread Lissy Verghese
And, I was just thinking, why the full-form Automatic Teller Machine
if there is no voice output to it?
The observation may appear stupid, but, I request my friends to help
me to know if there is something constructive in this idea.
Thank you!
Lissy Verghese



On 1/21/13, Lissy Verghese  wrote:
> Good morning friends!
> While attending one camp, I came to grasp the information offered
> therein like this:
> Every ATM machine comes equipped with a headphone jack.  The voice
> input does not require the installation of a specific software or
> modification to its original design.
> I humbly request my ATM user-friends to update me with this regard.
> Thank you!
> Lissy Verghese
>
> On 1/20/13, Prashant Naik  wrote:
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>>
>>
>> I had posted many times in A I list on the Talking ATM topic in the past.
>> Today I am pleased to keep the list updated with positive news on the
>> talking ATM front.
>>
>>
>>
>> Recently Union Bank of India has installed talking functionality in its
>> head office (central office in Mumbai) building on Diebold ATM.  Now we
>> have one more key ATM manufacturer ready with talking solution.  Union
>> Bank
>> has really done a benchmark work with two global ATM manufacturers NCR
>> and
>> Diebold on talking ATM front.  Bank’s top management fully supported and
>> funded development of these projects with both vendors.  Now both global
>> ATM manufacturers can be contacted for talking ATM deployment by any
>> bank.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am very happy that I have played a very constructive role in both the
>> projects. I worked very closely with ATM developers, ATM switch IT team,
>> done rigorous testing at lab and at sites, developed accessible manual
>> and
>> video, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Currently at four very good locations talking ATMs are available.
>>
>> A. Blind Peoples Association, Ahmedabad, Gujrat (Union Bank of India)
>> B. NAB Delhi, New Delhi (Union Bank of India)
>> C. Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) Library Building, New Delhi
>> (State
>> Bank of India)
>>
>> D. NAB India, Mumbai (State Bank of India)
>>
>>
>>
>> Yesterday I tested/used NAB India talking ATM installed by SBI just in
>> the
>> last week and its working fine.  As of now best of my knowledge SBI has
>> done lot of deployment of talking ATMs across India as well as Union bank
>> of India.  Now for any bank it’s very easy to implement talking ATM as
>> they
>> just need to replicate the model of Union bank talking ATM as done by SBI
>> with some customization.  Above 4 sites can be visited to demo the
>> concept
>> to other banks.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know other banks too are working or they will take up talking ATM
>> project.
>> I am very hopeful that in coming days and months we will have better
>> scenario on talking ATMs front if other banks will get into action soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> For more info on talking ATM read my article
>> http://retinaindia.org/?page_id=1592  (Talking ATM by Prashant Naik).
>>
>>
>> Link for TALKING ATM FOR ALL video -
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFu_IAeurTU
>>
>>
>> To watch a video of a blind ATM user (Ranchod Soni sir from BPA Gujrat)
>> doing a live transaction with hidden screens and giving explanation on
>> what
>> he is doing according to voice prompts from talking ATM. Please visit
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N-p1bcQuGc
>> or
>> http://www.unionbankofindia.co.in/personal_TalkingATMs.aspx
>>
>>
>> To download instruction manual on Talking ATM operation in DAISY and
>> Electronic Braille formats please visit
>>
>> http://www.unionbankofindia.co.in/personal_TalkingATMs.aspx   (Handbook
>> tab).
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>>  PRASHANT NAIK
>>
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>> of
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Re: [AI] Update on Talking ATM

2013-01-20 Thread Lissy Verghese
Good morning friends!
While attending one camp, I came to grasp the information offered
therein like this:
Every ATM machine comes equipped with a headphone jack.  The voice
input does not require the installation of a specific software or
modification to its original design.
I humbly request my ATM user-friends to update me with this regard.
Thank you!
Lissy Verghese

On 1/20/13, Prashant Naik  wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
>
>
> I had posted many times in A I list on the Talking ATM topic in the past.
> Today I am pleased to keep the list updated with positive news on the
> talking ATM front.
>
>
>
> Recently Union Bank of India has installed talking functionality in its
> head office (central office in Mumbai) building on Diebold ATM.  Now we
> have one more key ATM manufacturer ready with talking solution.  Union Bank
> has really done a benchmark work with two global ATM manufacturers NCR and
> Diebold on talking ATM front.  Bank’s top management fully supported and
> funded development of these projects with both vendors.  Now both global
> ATM manufacturers can be contacted for talking ATM deployment by any bank.
>
>
>
> I am very happy that I have played a very constructive role in both the
> projects. I worked very closely with ATM developers, ATM switch IT team,
> done rigorous testing at lab and at sites, developed accessible manual and
> video, etc.
>
>
>
> Currently at four very good locations talking ATMs are available.
>
> A. Blind Peoples Association, Ahmedabad, Gujrat (Union Bank of India)
> B. NAB Delhi, New Delhi (Union Bank of India)
> C. Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) Library Building, New Delhi (State
> Bank of India)
>
> D. NAB India, Mumbai (State Bank of India)
>
>
>
> Yesterday I tested/used NAB India talking ATM installed by SBI just in the
> last week and its working fine.  As of now best of my knowledge SBI has
> done lot of deployment of talking ATMs across India as well as Union bank
> of India.  Now for any bank it’s very easy to implement talking ATM as they
> just need to replicate the model of Union bank talking ATM as done by SBI
> with some customization.  Above 4 sites can be visited to demo the concept
> to other banks.
>
>
>
> I know other banks too are working or they will take up talking ATM
> project.
> I am very hopeful that in coming days and months we will have better
> scenario on talking ATMs front if other banks will get into action soon.
>
>
>
> For more info on talking ATM read my article
> http://retinaindia.org/?page_id=1592  (Talking ATM by Prashant Naik).
>
>
> Link for TALKING ATM FOR ALL video -
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFu_IAeurTU
>
>
> To watch a video of a blind ATM user (Ranchod Soni sir from BPA Gujrat)
> doing a live transaction with hidden screens and giving explanation on what
> he is doing according to voice prompts from talking ATM. Please visit
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N-p1bcQuGc
> or
> http://www.unionbankofindia.co.in/personal_TalkingATMs.aspx
>
>
> To download instruction manual on Talking ATM operation in DAISY and
> Electronic Braille formats please visit
>
> http://www.unionbankofindia.co.in/personal_TalkingATMs.aspx   (Handbook
> tab).
>
>
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
>  PRASHANT NAIK
>
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2013-01-20 Thread megha batra
http://www.lavecchiaofficina.it/hlpvsh.php


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Re: [AI] Some Media Reports on Sambhavana Led Struggle of Disabled in DU

2013-01-20 Thread Vikas Gupta
As promised, I am pasting below the link of a document, which contains
various media reports on this issue. Of course, this is not complete.
It misses out many English newspapers and there is no Hindi one in
this file. For instance, I have been told that there is a story in
today's Hindi Hindustan (21st January). However, this document is a
representation of the media coverage. See the link below:



https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7676311/sambhavana%20DU%20Protest%20Media%20Coverage%202013.doc


Best

Vikas



On 1/20/13, Ajay Arora  wrote:
> Dear friends,
> I want to add few things with regard to what has been stated above.
> To understand at hand the whole issue of protest and hunger strike we
> need to bare certain things in mind:
> Firstly, we did not want to have a delegation level meting with VC
> behind the curtains. Authorities already informed us that VC and his
> team is ready to meet three or four disableds at 10 in the morning.
> But if you look at this development in a larger sense and a very real
> sense, it becomes clear that the issues raised by Sambhavana led
> movement demand serious consideration, and meeting the authorities
> would have resulted in weak and worthless promises.
> Therefore, our aim was to meet vice chancellor in mass delegation, so
> that in full public view we could have his assurances.
> Moreover, the question at issue was primarily linked with exposing the
> callous and inhumane attitude of DU administration in the eyes of one
> and all. Had we met the VC and his team in the morning itself, we
> would not have captured the kind of media attention what we have got
> now.
> The movement is still on, and we would continue to march on under the
> guidance of esteemed leadership of sambhavana.
> Particularly, I want to thank vikas gupta sir,  nikhil sir and pratap
> sir for building this momentum and we have always continued to profit
> from their contribution to the cause of disableds and with whose wise
> council many things have started taking off on the DU campus.
> Best
> ajay
>
> On 1/20/13, Vikas Gupta  wrote:
>> Dear Sanchit, Avinash and others.
>>
>> Let me share with you that not only the business standard, but more
>> than a half dozen newspapers have covered the 18th January hunger
>> strike. I have asked a friend to compile these reports and send it to
>> me so that I can share it with the accessindia list.
>>
>> Secondly, let me also tell you that many of these reports are based on
>> the document that we had prepared against the Delhi University's Press
>> Release dated 17th January 2013 . I must congratulate all those who
>> sat the whole night before hunger strike to prepare this document so
>> that it may be released on time. (It is pasted below.) It is a
>> document worth reading for all. This document has frustrated the DU
>> administration to the extent that now they are left with know
>> alternative but to use the disability of one of its officer (OSD, EOC)
>> as the shield for their failure to ensure the rights of disabled. See
>> the report in Hindu on the city page, dated 19th January for the
>> statement of this disabled officer of Delhi University. It is a
>> shameful statement for disabled community at large made by a disabled
>> himself.
>>
>>
>> Thirdly, the demand for netbooks was already their in the September
>> 2012 representation of Sambhavana. In fact, it was our reminder in
>> December 2012 stating that otherwise we will have to start a mass
>> struggle and our notice for the demonstration of 8th January 2013
>> which build the pressure under which finally the procurement process
>> has begun. Hence, disabled students may now get notebooks, but at the
>> same time, precisely for this reason that without pressure,
>> authorities do not come out of their slumber, we should continue the
>> struggle.
>>
>>
>> PRESS Release
>> Ref.Sam.2013/110
>> Date: 18/01/2013
>>
>> Sambhavana Organization’s Response to the Press Release of Delhi
>> University Dated 17th January 2013 and Report of Day Long Hunger
>> Strike by Disabled Students and Teachers Against the Insensitive DU
>> Authorities on 18th January 2013.
>>
>>
>>
>> 28 disabled students and 7 disabled teachers of Delhi University
>> undertook a day-long hunger strike in front of DU VC’s office against
>> the insensitive and callous attitude of the authorities towards their
>> long pending grievances. DUTA executive had also issued a call of
>> solidarity in favour Sambhavana’s hunger strike and all together more
>> than 100 people joined the programme throughout the day. Sambhavana
>> Organization had submitted a comprehensive representation outlining
>> the grievances of the disabled community in DU at the behest of the
>> Vice Chancellor way back in September 2012. Today the authorities not
>> only disallowed tent facility, but even stooped down to the level of
>> intimidation and threat to the disabled participants and their
>> escorts. (A complaint to this effect has been lodged with the poli

Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please participate

2013-01-20 Thread Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Harish,
Yes, that can be done; but it would be good for more questions for low
vision, for instance, there can be certain jobs where user do not require
computer but will be able to perform with low vision. Unless the survey is
limited to use of technology alone.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Kotian, H P  wrote:

> Hi Prashant
>
> At this point of time there is difficulty in adding a field.
> May we instead, mention using screen magnifier on the last item in
> suggestion field. This is a free field and can take any length
>
> Harish Kotian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of Prashant Naik
> Sent: 20 January 2013 18:10
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please
> participate
>
> HI,
>
> I suggest some modifications in the survey form considering bank employees
> with partial and low vision who may not be using screen reader but prefer
> or use screen magnifiers.   In the current form they cannot give their
> inputs as it is only restricted to screen reader users.
>
> Regards,
>
> Prashant Naik
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 5:56 PM, akhilesh  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > Can we also take this survey? or this is only for bankers?
> > I innitiated this process 6 months back, and filed RTIs in 20 public
> > sector banks. To my surprise, many banks have not been able to
> > understand the term accessibility and for many days the application
> > kept moving from 1 desk to another.
> >
> > Nice to see that bankers have initiated it.
> > I assure the support from the legal community whenever and where ever
> > required.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > On 1/20/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> > > i have already done sir, but, not that way as you suggested. I proved
> > myself
> > >
> > > among my colleagues and authorities that any job on the computer can't
> be
> > > done by sighted people, I am called for final solution. e.g. we enter
> the
> > > salary of one institute have 300 employess. this job can be done at one
> > > stroke. while uploading the salary each and every time my sighted
> > colleagues
> > >
> > > get strucked on it. finally, i give them instructions and they do the
> job
> > > for me because the function is inaccessible with jaws. in mass level,
> it
> > is
> > >
> > > difficult to organise such meeting. any outside agency can approach the
> > bank
> > >
> > > to organise such thing.
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" 
> > > To: 
> > > Cc: 
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:53 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please
> > > participate
> > >
> > >
> > >> Bhavani and others,
> > >>
> > >> That's a valid point. However, you guys those are in the banks can do
> > >> something about. You can start informal. One thing you can do is to
> > >> organize an hour session to co-workers, possibly including those who
> are
> > >> responsible for web based products, during the session, you cn
> introduce
> > >> web accessibility what, why and a bit about how... You can also
> > >> demonstrate those products with assistive technologies and explain how
> > >> accessibility can also benefit other users. Remember, you should talk
> > in a
> > >>
> > >> constructive manner and with details but not in a complaining
> approach.
> > >>
> > >> I can do such presentations on Saturdays on request with a fee.
> > >>
> > >> Good luck,
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Srinivasu
> > >> http://srinivasu.org Twitter: @vasutweets
> > >> Sent from my iPad
> > >>
> > >> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:29 AM, "bhawani shankar verma"
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> until the web content accessibility guideline 2.0 not be followed,
> the
> > >>> accessibility issue can not be resolved. unfortunately, in our system
> > the
> > >>>
> > >>> designation carries override effect on knowledge. if the employee is
> > >>> lower on designation and having sound knowledge, nobody will listen
> > him.
> > >>>
> > >>> I raised the issue of accessibility before the ED of PNB, but, i the
> > >>> matter has gone after a big dinner. however, i will  participate on
> > >>> survey and my wishes for success is with you. if any assistance will
> be
> > >>> required from my side on this matter, i will always be available.
> > >>> thanks.
> > >>>
> > >>> - Original Message - From: "Vamshi. G" 
> > >>> To: "accessindia" 
> > >>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:53 PM
> > >>> Subject: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please
> > >>> participate
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >  Dear Friends
> > 
> > 
> >  Visually challenged bank employees  are facing inaccessible work
> >  environment in banks.
> > 
> >  Particularly CBS and other softwares used in banks are many a times
> >  not made accessible for us.
> > 
> >  We have decided to persue the matter vigorously.
> > 
> >  However, for this, w

Re: [AI] Feed back needed regarding Nokia Screen reader for E 5

2013-01-20 Thread Amiyo Biswas
Nokia screen-reader was compatible with C5 and a few more. Does it support 
E5 and others too?


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329

- Original Message - 
From: "Prashanth" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 2:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Feed back needed regarding Nokia Screen reader for E 5



Different TTS voices are available, like; US/UK/Indian.
For more info visit the mobileSpeak website.

- Original Message - 
From: "srinivas bangalore_11" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Feed back needed regarding Nokia Screen reader for E 5



Hi everyone,
I am using E63 mobile with 5.3 talks.
Can I use both talks and nokia screen reader?
And I want to know does nokia screen tts reader has multiple voices?

Kindly let me know
W
With best regards,
Srinivas MVles.

On 1/19/13, Prashanth  wrote:

At first, it is a free version. You need not to pay.
It is a mini version of MobileSpeak. It has no command key [like talks
key].
With the high quality TTS voices one can manage all basic functions. Not
compatible with Nokia maps.
- Original Message -
From: "tiku raj" 
To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 9:20 AM
Subject: [AI] Feed back needed regarding Nokia Screen reader for E 5



Hello Friends,

One of my friend wants a feed back regarding Nokia Screen reader for E 
5.


If it is working well can any one send a demo on my personal e mail id
or give suggestions regarding the same.

My e mail id :

tiku...@gmail.com

Regards,

Tiku


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Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please participate

2013-01-20 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi Prashant

At this point of time there is difficulty in adding a field.
May we instead, mention using screen magnifier on the last item in suggestion 
field. This is a free field and can take any length

Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Prashant Naik
Sent: 20 January 2013 18:10
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please participate

HI,

I suggest some modifications in the survey form considering bank employees
with partial and low vision who may not be using screen reader but prefer
or use screen magnifiers.   In the current form they cannot give their
inputs as it is only restricted to screen reader users.

Regards,

Prashant Naik


On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 5:56 PM, akhilesh  wrote:

> Hello,
> Can we also take this survey? or this is only for bankers?
> I innitiated this process 6 months back, and filed RTIs in 20 public
> sector banks. To my surprise, many banks have not been able to
> understand the term accessibility and for many days the application
> kept moving from 1 desk to another.
>
> Nice to see that bankers have initiated it.
> I assure the support from the legal community whenever and where ever
> required.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> On 1/20/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> > i have already done sir, but, not that way as you suggested. I proved
> myself
> >
> > among my colleagues and authorities that any job on the computer can't be
> > done by sighted people, I am called for final solution. e.g. we enter the
> > salary of one institute have 300 employess. this job can be done at one
> > stroke. while uploading the salary each and every time my sighted
> colleagues
> >
> > get strucked on it. finally, i give them instructions and they do the job
> > for me because the function is inaccessible with jaws. in mass level, it
> is
> >
> > difficult to organise such meeting. any outside agency can approach the
> bank
> >
> > to organise such thing.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" 
> > To: 
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please
> > participate
> >
> >
> >> Bhavani and others,
> >>
> >> That's a valid point. However, you guys those are in the banks can do
> >> something about. You can start informal. One thing you can do is to
> >> organize an hour session to co-workers, possibly including those who are
> >> responsible for web based products, during the session, you cn introduce
> >> web accessibility what, why and a bit about how... You can also
> >> demonstrate those products with assistive technologies and explain how
> >> accessibility can also benefit other users. Remember, you should talk
> in a
> >>
> >> constructive manner and with details but not in a complaining approach.
> >>
> >> I can do such presentations on Saturdays on request with a fee.
> >>
> >> Good luck,
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Srinivasu
> >> http://srinivasu.org Twitter: @vasutweets
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:29 AM, "bhawani shankar verma"
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> until the web content accessibility guideline 2.0 not be followed, the
> >>> accessibility issue can not be resolved. unfortunately, in our system
> the
> >>>
> >>> designation carries override effect on knowledge. if the employee is
> >>> lower on designation and having sound knowledge, nobody will listen
> him.
> >>>
> >>> I raised the issue of accessibility before the ED of PNB, but, i the
> >>> matter has gone after a big dinner. however, i will  participate on
> >>> survey and my wishes for success is with you. if any assistance will be
> >>> required from my side on this matter, i will always be available.
> >>> thanks.
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message - From: "Vamshi. G" 
> >>> To: "accessindia" 
> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:53 PM
> >>> Subject: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please
> >>> participate
> >>>
> >>>
>  Dear Friends
> 
> 
>  Visually challenged bank employees  are facing inaccessible work
>  environment in banks.
> 
>  Particularly CBS and other softwares used in banks are many a times
>  not made accessible for us.
> 
>  We have decided to persue the matter vigorously.
> 
>  However, for this, we require tangible data about inaccessibility in
>  banking.
> 
>  So, friends, do share your experiences and fill in the survey about
>  the subject hosted at:
> 
>  www.sahaayit.com/survey/survey.htm
> 
>  As you all can appreciate this is of utmost importance, so do take out
>  few minutes and do cooperate..
> 
>  Regards
>  Moderation team
>  VIB India
>  An e-group for visually challenged bankers
> 
> 
>  --
>  G. Vamshi
>  Mobile: +91 9949349497
>  Skype: gvamshi81
> 
>  www.retinaindia.or

Re: [AI] Please address my mobility issue

2013-01-20 Thread zoher kheriwala
Thanks for your responss it will surely help me to resolve, my mobility 
issues.

zoher kheriwala taheri menswear mumbai. skype id zoher.kheriwala
- Original Message - 
From: "mukesh jain" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Please address my mobility issue


hello,
1. you may request the person to inform you when he leaves before your
bus arrives. In case if you are not able to know whether the person to
whom you have asked left, you may follow the direction of the crowd
where passengers are getting in or coming out. If you can not even
make out any direction, you may follow the position of the place where
bus is standing on the stop, I guess it can be figured it out from the
voice  and move ahead towards the front gate and ask the driver about
the bus number.

2. if you happen to travel in the early morning, you may keep track of
the timings of the time table of that bus and follow your timings
accordingly because, in the morning especially in the early timings,
you will find surely any stop on which many school going students are
getting in to that bus. For example, in my area in Mumbai, when I use
to go to my college in the early morning, there were three bus stops
near to my hhouse amongst which there were only one particular stop on
which these students use to get in to that bus. So I had made my
habbit to go that bus stop to catch the bus. Although other bus stops
were more closer to my house but since noone use to catch the bus from
that stop, bus never use to stop there. If you are going to travel in
the late night, then surely there are traffic police inspectors
available if not on the bus stop, surely nearbye on any traffic
signal. You may approach them to help you out to stop that bus when it
arrives on that signal or bus stop. I use to take the help from them
and they use to advise me to wait on that traffic  signal if the bus I
wanted were going to pass from there or if not, they use to suggest me
to wait on that stop and use to depute other colleague to help me out.

3. generally, cab drivers does not refuse to board any visually
challenged persons but of course, there are few who either due to
their mentality not to get the money from us or they avoid taking the
passengers due to short distance. So in this case, you can get it
clarified from them. If it’s the distance issue, you may first request
to take you as customer to avoid any further arguments and to waste
yours time as most of the time nothing comes out from such
quarrelings. If that too doesn’t work you may simply try to take the
number of that cab and notify the same to traffic authorities. But the
easiest way to avoid these situation would be when you stop any cab
just try and first get in to the cab and then after boarding in to the
cab you may tell him about your destination. If it’s the issue of his
mentality, you may try to convince him about the prepaid system i.e.
fixing the determined charges to take you to your destination and
offer the charge first. Because, I have seen on various stations when
passengers take the cab they first deposit the money to them and then
cab driver issue the receipt for it. So that he can be made sure about
his money.

4. in this case, you may either try to reach any traffic signal near
to that high way to catch the cab or find any corners, streets,
adjacent where generally cabs parks. If not, then you may use the
services of few cab services companies like yatricab to fix the cab if
your visit is predetermined else you may walk little more to find near
parking place as mentioned by me.
thanks,
mukesh.

On 1/20/13, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:

Some similar answers as Mahendra stated

1. Keep chatting with the helping person and request him-her to inform
you to tell u before they leave

2. As far possible, try to stick to similar traveling time, BST
drivers are mostly helpful and they will recognize u and stop.
Or use a Danda, complain to the depot or write to the PRO BST

3. They have two worries that Vis can’t probably afford and they don’t
know the ways
Tell them how much money they want like a son of a rich tycoon or tell
them not to worry about ways; you can guide or we can always ask

4. Stopping cabs is becoming challenging as Fiats have gone. But then
keep waving hands and the absolutely Mahendrajis tact.
Be a survivor


On 1/20/13, mahendra  wrote:

Hi Zoher

i am from Mumbai, and still visit every year.
1 request the same person to tell you when her, or his, bus
is coming and they are going away.
it is not a  problem to ask every time when bus is coming.
also you can try and have a chat with some one, not just
  requesting bus number , will also help.

2, show your hand even though you don't know whether it is your bus.
stay in frunt so driver can see you.

3, it is difficult with cab drivers, however ask them,
whether because of money he is saying no or some other reason.
4, don't worry try and stop the car or cab,
if its a car will not stop, and if th

Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please participate

2013-01-20 Thread bhawani shankar verma
sir, we would be very greatful to you. not only this particular issue, but, 
even the blind employees of public sector banks have not been nominated for 
the regular internal training programmes, held by the training centres in 
banks. don't know about other sectors.


- Original Message - 
From: "akhilesh" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please 
participate




Hello,
Can we also take this survey? or this is only for bankers?
I innitiated this process 6 months back, and filed RTIs in 20 public
sector banks. To my surprise, many banks have not been able to
understand the term accessibility and for many days the application
kept moving from 1 desk to another.

Nice to see that bankers have initiated it.
I assure the support from the legal community whenever and where ever 
required.


Thanks,


On 1/20/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
i have already done sir, but, not that way as you suggested. I proved 
myself


among my colleagues and authorities that any job on the computer can't be
done by sighted people, I am called for final solution. e.g. we enter the
salary of one institute have 300 employess. this job can be done at one
stroke. while uploading the salary each and every time my sighted 
colleagues


get strucked on it. finally, i give them instructions and they do the job
for me because the function is inaccessible with jaws. in mass level, it 
is


difficult to organise such meeting. any outside agency can approach the 
bank


to organise such thing.

- Original Message -
From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please
participate



Bhavani and others,

That's a valid point. However, you guys those are in the banks can do
something about. You can start informal. One thing you can do is to
organize an hour session to co-workers, possibly including those who are
responsible for web based products, during the session, you cn introduce
web accessibility what, why and a bit about how... You can also
demonstrate those products with assistive technologies and explain how
accessibility can also benefit other users. Remember, you should talk in 
a


constructive manner and with details but not in a complaining approach.

I can do such presentations on Saturdays on request with a fee.

Good luck,

Regards,

Srinivasu
http://srinivasu.org Twitter: @vasutweets
Sent from my iPad

On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:29 AM, "bhawani shankar verma"
 wrote:


until the web content accessibility guideline 2.0 not be followed, the
accessibility issue can not be resolved. unfortunately, in our system 
the


designation carries override effect on knowledge. if the employee is
lower on designation and having sound knowledge, nobody will listen 
him.


I raised the issue of accessibility before the ED of PNB, but, i the
matter has gone after a big dinner. however, i will  participate on
survey and my wishes for success is with you. if any assistance will be
required from my side on this matter, i will always be available.
thanks.

- Original Message - From: "Vamshi. G" 
To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:53 PM
Subject: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please
participate



Dear Friends


Visually challenged bank employees  are facing inaccessible work
environment in banks.

Particularly CBS and other softwares used in banks are many a times
not made accessible for us.

We have decided to persue the matter vigorously.

However, for this, we require tangible data about inaccessibility in
banking.

So, friends, do share your experiences and fill in the survey about
the subject hosted at:

www.sahaayit.com/survey/survey.htm

As you all can appreciate this is of utmost importance, so do take out
few minutes and do cooperate..

Regards
Moderation team
VIB India
An e-group for visually challenged bankers


--
G. Vamshi
Mobile: +91 9949349497
Skype: gvamshi81

www.retinaindia.org
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Re: [AI] Please address my mobility issue

2013-01-20 Thread mukesh jain
hello,
1.  you may request the person to inform you when he leaves before your
bus arrives. In case if you are not able to know whether the person to
whom you have asked left, you may follow the direction of the crowd
where passengers are getting in or coming out. If you can not even
make out any direction, you may follow the position of the place where
bus is standing on the stop, I guess it can be figured it out from the
voice  and move ahead towards the front gate and ask the driver about
the bus number.

2.  if you happen to travel in the early morning, you may keep track of
the timings of the time table of that bus and follow your timings
accordingly because, in the morning especially in the early timings,
you will find surely any stop on which many school going students are
getting in to that bus. For example, in my area in Mumbai, when I use
to go to my college in the early morning, there were three bus stops
near to my hhouse amongst which there were only one particular stop on
which these students use to get in to that bus. So I had made my
habbit to go that bus stop to catch the bus. Although other bus stops
were more closer to my house but since noone use to catch the bus from
that stop, bus never use to stop there. If you are going to travel in
the late night, then surely there are traffic police inspectors
available if not on the bus stop, surely nearbye on any traffic
signal. You may approach them to help you out to stop that bus when it
arrives on that signal or bus stop. I use to take the help from them
and they use to advise me to wait on that traffic  signal if the bus I
wanted were going to pass from there or if not, they use to suggest me
to wait on that stop and use to depute other colleague to help me out.

3.  generally, cab drivers does not refuse to board any visually
challenged persons but of course, there are few who either due to
their mentality not to get the money from us or they avoid taking the
passengers due to short distance. So in this case, you can get it
clarified from them. If it’s the distance issue, you may first request
to take you as customer to avoid any further arguments and to waste
yours time as most of the time nothing comes out from such
quarrelings. If that too doesn’t work you may simply try to take the
number of that cab and notify the same to traffic authorities. But the
easiest way to avoid these situation would be when you stop any cab
just try and first get in to the cab and then after boarding in to the
cab you may tell him about your destination. If it’s the issue of his
mentality, you may try to convince him about the prepaid system i.e.
fixing the determined charges to take you to your destination and
offer the charge first. Because, I have seen on various stations when
passengers take the cab they first deposit the money to them and then
cab driver issue the receipt for it. So that he can be made sure about
his money.

4.  in this case, you may either try to reach any traffic signal near
to that high way to catch the cab or find any corners, streets,
adjacent where generally cabs parks. If not, then you may use the
services of few cab services companies like yatricab to fix the cab if
your visit is predetermined else you may walk little more to find near
parking place as mentioned by me.
thanks,
mukesh.

On 1/20/13, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:
> Some similar answers as Mahendra stated
>
> 1.Keep chatting with the helping person and request him-her to inform
> you to tell u before they leave
>
> 2.As far possible, try to stick to similar traveling time, BST
> drivers are mostly helpful and they will recognize u and stop.
> Or use a Danda, complain to the depot or write to the PRO BST
>
> 3.They have two worries that Vis can’t probably afford and they don’t
> know the ways
> Tell them how much money they want like a son of a rich tycoon or tell
> them not to worry about ways; you can guide or we can always ask
>
> 4.Stopping cabs is becoming challenging as Fiats have gone. But then
> keep waving hands and the absolutely Mahendrajis tact.
> Be a survivor
>
>
> On 1/20/13, mahendra  wrote:
>> Hi Zoher
>>
>> i am from Mumbai, and still visit every year.
>> 1 request the same person to tell you when her, or his, bus
>> is coming and they are going away.
>> it is not a  problem to ask every time when bus is coming.
>> also you can try and have a chat with some one, not just
>>   requesting bus number , will also help.
>>
>> 2, show your hand even though you don't know whether it is your bus.
>> stay in frunt so driver can see you.
>>
>> 3, it is difficult with cab drivers, however ask them,
>> whether because of money he is saying no or some other reason.
>> 4, don't worry try and stop the car or cab,
>> if its a car will not stop, and if they stop, you can ask for a help
>> to get a cab.
>>   and if its a cab, and also free will stop.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 06:16 AM 1/18/2013, you wrote:
>>>Friends I stay in Mumbai and I need cer

[AI] Fwd: [WebAIM] Mobile Accessibility Survey

2013-01-20 Thread Rakesh
Not sure if this survey has hit the Access India mailing list. Sorry if 
it has already shared.

Survey on mobile accessibility
http://www.paciellogroup.com/mobile/
Thanks & Regards
Rakesh

 Original Message 
Subject:[WebAIM] Mobile Accessibility Survey
Date:   Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:18:14 -0800
From:   John Foliot 
Reply-To:   WebAIM Discussion List 
To: 	'WebAIM Discussion List' , 





Apologies for cross-posting.

Greetings all,

Not sure if this has crossed your radar yet, but there is a new online
survey regarding Mobile Accessibility over on the TPG (The Paciello Group)
website that is a great start to gathering some critical information on this
still very new frontier.  The survey can be found at:
http://www.paciellogroup.com/mobile/

If you are a PWD who is using mobile devices today, please take the 5
minutes required to help TPG gather this data - it will be a huge benefit.
As well, please feel free to pass along this information and URL to any
other mailing lists you might feel appropriate - the more data they collect,
the better the final results.

Cheers!

JF
---
John Foliot
Web Accessibility Specialist
W3C Invited Expert | Co-Facilitator, W3C HTML5 Accessibility Task Force
(Media)
Co-Founder, Open Web Camp



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Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please participate

2013-01-20 Thread Vamshi. G
Hi Akhilesh,

Thanks for your support.  Please share the replies to your RTI
application, if any, from the banks.  Otherwise, please send your RTI
applications.  We need everyone's help in this regard.   We will
surely contact you when required.

please send the available info to

Vamshi
gvamsh...@gmail.com

or

Rajesh Asudani
rasud...@gmail.com








On 1/20/13, Prashant Naik  wrote:
> HI,
>
> I suggest some modifications in the survey form considering bank employees
> with partial and low vision who may not be using screen reader but prefer
> or use screen magnifiers.   In the current form they cannot give their
> inputs as it is only restricted to screen reader users.
>
> Regards,
>
> Prashant Naik
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 5:56 PM, akhilesh  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> Can we also take this survey? or this is only for bankers?
>> I innitiated this process 6 months back, and filed RTIs in 20 public
>> sector banks. To my surprise, many banks have not been able to
>> understand the term accessibility and for many days the application
>> kept moving from 1 desk to another.
>>
>> Nice to see that bankers have initiated it.
>> I assure the support from the legal community whenever and where ever
>> required.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> On 1/20/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> > i have already done sir, but, not that way as you suggested. I proved
>> myself
>> >
>> > among my colleagues and authorities that any job on the computer can't
>> > be
>> > done by sighted people, I am called for final solution. e.g. we enter
>> > the
>> > salary of one institute have 300 employess. this job can be done at one
>> > stroke. while uploading the salary each and every time my sighted
>> colleagues
>> >
>> > get strucked on it. finally, i give them instructions and they do the
>> > job
>> > for me because the function is inaccessible with jaws. in mass level,
>> > it
>> is
>> >
>> > difficult to organise such meeting. any outside agency can approach the
>> bank
>> >
>> > to organise such thing.
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" 
>> > To: 
>> > Cc: 
>> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:53 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please
>> > participate
>> >
>> >
>> >> Bhavani and others,
>> >>
>> >> That's a valid point. However, you guys those are in the banks can do
>> >> something about. You can start informal. One thing you can do is to
>> >> organize an hour session to co-workers, possibly including those who
>> >> are
>> >> responsible for web based products, during the session, you cn
>> >> introduce
>> >> web accessibility what, why and a bit about how... You can also
>> >> demonstrate those products with assistive technologies and explain how
>> >> accessibility can also benefit other users. Remember, you should talk
>> in a
>> >>
>> >> constructive manner and with details but not in a complaining
>> >> approach.
>> >>
>> >> I can do such presentations on Saturdays on request with a fee.
>> >>
>> >> Good luck,
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Srinivasu
>> >> http://srinivasu.org Twitter: @vasutweets
>> >> Sent from my iPad
>> >>
>> >> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:29 AM, "bhawani shankar verma"
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> until the web content accessibility guideline 2.0 not be followed,
>> >>> the
>> >>> accessibility issue can not be resolved. unfortunately, in our system
>> the
>> >>>
>> >>> designation carries override effect on knowledge. if the employee is
>> >>> lower on designation and having sound knowledge, nobody will listen
>> him.
>> >>>
>> >>> I raised the issue of accessibility before the ED of PNB, but, i the
>> >>> matter has gone after a big dinner. however, i will  participate on
>> >>> survey and my wishes for success is with you. if any assistance will
>> >>> be
>> >>> required from my side on this matter, i will always be available.
>> >>> thanks.
>> >>>
>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Vamshi. G" 
>> >>> To: "accessindia" 
>> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:53 PM
>> >>> Subject: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please
>> >>> participate
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>  Dear Friends
>> 
>> 
>>  Visually challenged bank employees  are facing inaccessible work
>>  environment in banks.
>> 
>>  Particularly CBS and other softwares used in banks are many a times
>>  not made accessible for us.
>> 
>>  We have decided to persue the matter vigorously.
>> 
>>  However, for this, we require tangible data about inaccessibility in
>>  banking.
>> 
>>  So, friends, do share your experiences and fill in the survey about
>>  the subject hosted at:
>> 
>>  www.sahaayit.com/survey/survey.htm
>> 
>>  As you all can appreciate this is of utmost importance, so do take
>>  out
>>  few minutes and do cooperate..
>> 
>>  Regards
>>  Moderation team
>>  VIB India
>>  An e-group for visually challenged bankers
>> 
>> 
>>  

Re: [AI] Please address my mobility issue

2013-01-20 Thread Ekinath Khedekar
Some similar answers as Mahendra stated

1.  Keep chatting with the helping person and request him-her to inform
you to tell u before they leave

2.  As far possible, try to stick to similar traveling time, BST
drivers are mostly helpful and they will recognize u and stop.
Or use a Danda, complain to the depot or write to the PRO BST

3.  They have two worries that Vis can’t probably afford and they don’t
know the ways
Tell them how much money they want like a son of a rich tycoon or tell
them not to worry about ways; you can guide or we can always ask

4.  Stopping cabs is becoming challenging as Fiats have gone. But then
keep waving hands and the absolutely Mahendrajis tact.
Be a survivor


On 1/20/13, mahendra  wrote:
> Hi Zoher
>
> i am from Mumbai, and still visit every year.
> 1 request the same person to tell you when her, or his, bus
> is coming and they are going away.
> it is not a  problem to ask every time when bus is coming.
> also you can try and have a chat with some one, not just
>   requesting bus number , will also help.
>
> 2, show your hand even though you don't know whether it is your bus.
> stay in frunt so driver can see you.
>
> 3, it is difficult with cab drivers, however ask them,
> whether because of money he is saying no or some other reason.
> 4, don't worry try and stop the car or cab,
> if its a car will not stop, and if they stop, you can ask for a help
> to get a cab.
>   and if its a cab, and also free will stop.
>
>
>
>
> At 06:16 AM 1/18/2013, you wrote:
>>Friends I stay in Mumbai and I need certain guidance regarding the
>>particular issues.
>>
>>1. Generally we ask the bus number to the people who are standing on
>>the stop, it so happens that that guy goes away when his bus arrives
>>without noticing you. At that time what should do? I think when you
>>ask one person then it does not look good to ask the number for
>>every bus arrives.
>>
>>2.  It is the habit of Mumbai best drivers, in early morning or late
>>night they don't stop the bus unless you show hand, then what to do
>>if you are alone on the stop?
>>
>>3. Sometimes the cab drivers are not ready to board the passenger
>>who are blind and travelling alone, how to convince them?
>>
>>4. How to catch the cab alone, specially on high ways and on no mans
>>road? I think it is difficult task as we can't stop the moving cabs
>>and we can't even differentiate between private cars and cabs. This
>>task gets difficult especially in the early mornings.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>zoher kheriwala taheri menswear mumbai. skype id zoher.kheriwala
>>
>>Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
>>accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
>>http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>>
>>
>>Search for old postings at:
>>http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
>>
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>>accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
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[AI] ekiinath

2013-01-20 Thread Ekinath Khedekar
On 1/18/13, zoher  wrote:
> Friends I stay in Mumbai and I need certain guidance regarding the
> particular issues.
>
> 1. Generally we ask the bus number to the people who are standing on the
> stop, it so happens that that guy goes away when his bus arrives without
> noticing you. At that time what should do? I think when you ask one person
> then it does not look good to ask the number for every bus arrives.
>
> 2.  It is the habit of Mumbai best drivers, in early morning or late night
> they don't stop the bus unless you show hand, then what to do if you are
> alone on the stop?
>
> 3. Sometimes the cab drivers are not ready to board the passenger who are
> blind and travelling alone, how to convince them?
>
> 4. How to catch the cab alone, specially on high ways and on no mans road? I
> think it is difficult task as we can't stop the moving cabs and we can't
> even differentiate between private cars and cabs. This task gets difficult
> especially in the early mornings.
>
> Thanks.
>
> zoher kheriwala taheri menswear mumbai. skype id zoher.kheriwala
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Re: [AI] Please address my mobility issue

2013-01-20 Thread mahendra

Hi Zoher

i am from Mumbai, and still visit every year.
1 request the same person to tell you when her, or his, bus
is coming and they are going away.
it is not a  problem to ask every time when bus is coming.
also you can try and have a chat with some one, not just
 requesting bus number , will also help.

2, show your hand even though you don't know whether it is your bus.
stay in frunt so driver can see you.

3, it is difficult with cab drivers, however ask them,
whether because of money he is saying no or some other reason.
4, don't worry try and stop the car or cab,
if its a car will not stop, and if they stop, you can ask for a help 
to get a cab.

 and if its a cab, and also free will stop.




At 06:16 AM 1/18/2013, you wrote:
Friends I stay in Mumbai and I need certain guidance regarding the 
particular issues.


1. Generally we ask the bus number to the people who are standing on 
the stop, it so happens that that guy goes away when his bus arrives 
without noticing you. At that time what should do? I think when you 
ask one person then it does not look good to ask the number for 
every bus arrives.


2.  It is the habit of Mumbai best drivers, in early morning or late 
night they don't stop the bus unless you show hand, then what to do 
if you are alone on the stop?


3. Sometimes the cab drivers are not ready to board the passenger 
who are blind and travelling alone, how to convince them?


4. How to catch the cab alone, specially on high ways and on no mans 
road? I think it is difficult task as we can't stop the moving cabs 
and we can't even differentiate between private cars and cabs. This 
task gets difficult especially in the early mornings.


Thanks.

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Re: [AI] A doubt regarding Microsoft office Outlook 2003

2013-01-20 Thread Geetha Shamanna
While in the inbox, press insert-pagedown to check the number of messages.
This assumes you are a Jaws user. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Phen Varghese
Sent: 18 January 2013 06:39
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] A doubt regarding Microsoft office Outlook 2003

Dear all,

I have a question regarding Microsoft office outlook 2003.
How can i check how many number of mails are there in my inbox?
Is there any keystroke for checking that?
Hope to hear from you soon.

With best regard's,

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Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please participate

2013-01-20 Thread Prashant Naik
HI,

I suggest some modifications in the survey form considering bank employees
with partial and low vision who may not be using screen reader but prefer
or use screen magnifiers.   In the current form they cannot give their
inputs as it is only restricted to screen reader users.

Regards,

Prashant Naik


On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 5:56 PM, akhilesh  wrote:

> Hello,
> Can we also take this survey? or this is only for bankers?
> I innitiated this process 6 months back, and filed RTIs in 20 public
> sector banks. To my surprise, many banks have not been able to
> understand the term accessibility and for many days the application
> kept moving from 1 desk to another.
>
> Nice to see that bankers have initiated it.
> I assure the support from the legal community whenever and where ever
> required.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> On 1/20/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> > i have already done sir, but, not that way as you suggested. I proved
> myself
> >
> > among my colleagues and authorities that any job on the computer can't be
> > done by sighted people, I am called for final solution. e.g. we enter the
> > salary of one institute have 300 employess. this job can be done at one
> > stroke. while uploading the salary each and every time my sighted
> colleagues
> >
> > get strucked on it. finally, i give them instructions and they do the job
> > for me because the function is inaccessible with jaws. in mass level, it
> is
> >
> > difficult to organise such meeting. any outside agency can approach the
> bank
> >
> > to organise such thing.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" 
> > To: 
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please
> > participate
> >
> >
> >> Bhavani and others,
> >>
> >> That's a valid point. However, you guys those are in the banks can do
> >> something about. You can start informal. One thing you can do is to
> >> organize an hour session to co-workers, possibly including those who are
> >> responsible for web based products, during the session, you cn introduce
> >> web accessibility what, why and a bit about how... You can also
> >> demonstrate those products with assistive technologies and explain how
> >> accessibility can also benefit other users. Remember, you should talk
> in a
> >>
> >> constructive manner and with details but not in a complaining approach.
> >>
> >> I can do such presentations on Saturdays on request with a fee.
> >>
> >> Good luck,
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Srinivasu
> >> http://srinivasu.org Twitter: @vasutweets
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:29 AM, "bhawani shankar verma"
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> until the web content accessibility guideline 2.0 not be followed, the
> >>> accessibility issue can not be resolved. unfortunately, in our system
> the
> >>>
> >>> designation carries override effect on knowledge. if the employee is
> >>> lower on designation and having sound knowledge, nobody will listen
> him.
> >>>
> >>> I raised the issue of accessibility before the ED of PNB, but, i the
> >>> matter has gone after a big dinner. however, i will  participate on
> >>> survey and my wishes for success is with you. if any assistance will be
> >>> required from my side on this matter, i will always be available.
> >>> thanks.
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message - From: "Vamshi. G" 
> >>> To: "accessindia" 
> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:53 PM
> >>> Subject: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please
> >>> participate
> >>>
> >>>
>  Dear Friends
> 
> 
>  Visually challenged bank employees  are facing inaccessible work
>  environment in banks.
> 
>  Particularly CBS and other softwares used in banks are many a times
>  not made accessible for us.
> 
>  We have decided to persue the matter vigorously.
> 
>  However, for this, we require tangible data about inaccessibility in
>  banking.
> 
>  So, friends, do share your experiences and fill in the survey about
>  the subject hosted at:
> 
>  www.sahaayit.com/survey/survey.htm
> 
>  As you all can appreciate this is of utmost importance, so do take out
>  few minutes and do cooperate..
> 
>  Regards
>  Moderation team
>  VIB India
>  An e-group for visually challenged bankers
> 
> 
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Re: [AI] mobility issues

2013-01-20 Thread akhilesh
Hi Siddalingeshwar,
as per my personal experience, gps doesn't work without gprs.


On 1/20/13, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi  wrote:
> sir I am using nokia c5 and also using nokia map on my mobile. I saved
> some places in favourite option. Then I select drive option but it is
> showing waiting for Gps so please guide me step by step. I knew only
> funtion of option my posission. There are lot of option like whether
> lonely planet. Sorry moderator sir I am asking here because it is
> related to mobile and don't take any action on me thankyou.
>
> On 1/20/13, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I use my e5. It's simple if you have added the desired location in
>> favourites then, just sit in the transport select drive to that
>> particular place and it starts giving turn by turn guidance. My phone
>> has saved me alot specially during evenings and late nights.
>> regards
>>
>> On 1/19/13, Surendra Salgaonkar)  wrote:
>>> Ajay: wich phone you are using for this? And  how do you do this! Please
>>> explain step by step.
>>> Thank you & good luck!
>>> Surendra Salgaonkar
>>> Phones.
>>> :+919867645933,
>>> +912226473918
>>> Emails:
>>> surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
>>> salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
>>>  Skype:
>>> salgaonkarconcerns,
>>> salgaonkarskype
>>> -Original message-
>>> From: Ajay Minocha
>>> Sent:  18.01.2013, 11.48  pm
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] mobility issues
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I mostly use my mobile and it's gps for tracking the bus stops. No odd
>>> questions from fello pecengers about bus stops anymore. it really
>>> helps me in nights when the conductor shows his qurioucity about my
>>> knowledge and specially my phone.
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> On 1/18/13, shyam sharma  wrote:
 I do the same but many times I and many other blinds unable to realize
 that the bus has come. So, the bus goes away and they are unable to
 catch the bus cause they could not know that the bus has come and gone
 away.
 Many times helpless. this is also the reason to miss the bus.
 I generally find it difficult to find the stop where I have to leave
 the bus because we have to ask again and again to the people around us
 and it looks little odd and we also hesitate in doing so.
 Thanks.
 Best regards:
 Shyam

 On 1/18/13, Ashmira Hamirani  wrote:
> Dear List Member,
> I would like to answer your questions as I am also a resident of
> Mumbai.
> If the person who is guiding you about the bus numbers at a bus stop
> goes away then you can ask in general about the bus number when you
> feel that a bus is approaching, in most cases someone from the crowd
> will give a response. once you approach someone at the stop to inform
> you about the bus numbers also add that he/she should inform someone
> else before he/she leaves. in case you are alone at the stop and the
> bus is approaching then move a little ahead when the bus approaches
> the stop and ask in a loud voice the bus number. if no one responds
> ask again. most bus drivers will stop at the bus stop if you are
> standing at the stop with your cane open.
> I agree that it is difficult to take a cab on lonely roads. if a cabby
> does not wish to take you just because you are blind then try and
> explain to him that you have been travelling alone since a long time
> and that he does not have to do anything extra except to drop you at
> the right destination. in case he does not know the place properly
> then tell him that one can ask on the way just as sighted people do
> when they are new to a place.
> hope this is of help to you.
> Ashmira
>
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Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please participate

2013-01-20 Thread akhilesh
Hello,
Can we also take this survey? or this is only for bankers?
I innitiated this process 6 months back, and filed RTIs in 20 public
sector banks. To my surprise, many banks have not been able to
understand the term accessibility and for many days the application
kept moving from 1 desk to another.

Nice to see that bankers have initiated it.
I assure the support from the legal community whenever and where ever required.

Thanks,


On 1/20/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> i have already done sir, but, not that way as you suggested. I proved myself
>
> among my colleagues and authorities that any job on the computer can't be
> done by sighted people, I am called for final solution. e.g. we enter the
> salary of one institute have 300 employess. this job can be done at one
> stroke. while uploading the salary each and every time my sighted colleagues
>
> get strucked on it. finally, i give them instructions and they do the job
> for me because the function is inaccessible with jaws. in mass level, it is
>
> difficult to organise such meeting. any outside agency can approach the bank
>
> to organise such thing.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" 
> To: 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please
> participate
>
>
>> Bhavani and others,
>>
>> That's a valid point. However, you guys those are in the banks can do
>> something about. You can start informal. One thing you can do is to
>> organize an hour session to co-workers, possibly including those who are
>> responsible for web based products, during the session, you cn introduce
>> web accessibility what, why and a bit about how... You can also
>> demonstrate those products with assistive technologies and explain how
>> accessibility can also benefit other users. Remember, you should talk in a
>>
>> constructive manner and with details but not in a complaining approach.
>>
>> I can do such presentations on Saturdays on request with a fee.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Srinivasu
>> http://srinivasu.org Twitter: @vasutweets
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:29 AM, "bhawani shankar verma"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> until the web content accessibility guideline 2.0 not be followed, the
>>> accessibility issue can not be resolved. unfortunately, in our system the
>>>
>>> designation carries override effect on knowledge. if the employee is
>>> lower on designation and having sound knowledge, nobody will listen him.
>>>
>>> I raised the issue of accessibility before the ED of PNB, but, i the
>>> matter has gone after a big dinner. however, i will  participate on
>>> survey and my wishes for success is with you. if any assistance will be
>>> required from my side on this matter, i will always be available.
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Vamshi. G" 
>>> To: "accessindia" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:53 PM
>>> Subject: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please
>>> participate
>>>
>>>
 Dear Friends


 Visually challenged bank employees  are facing inaccessible work
 environment in banks.

 Particularly CBS and other softwares used in banks are many a times
 not made accessible for us.

 We have decided to persue the matter vigorously.

 However, for this, we require tangible data about inaccessibility in
 banking.

 So, friends, do share your experiences and fill in the survey about
 the subject hosted at:

 www.sahaayit.com/survey/survey.htm

 As you all can appreciate this is of utmost importance, so do take out
 few minutes and do cooperate..

 Regards
 Moderation team
 VIB India
 An e-group for visually challenged bankers


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 Mobile: +91 9949349497
 Skype: gvamshi81

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Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please participate

2013-01-20 Thread bhawani shankar verma
i have already done sir, but, not that way as you suggested. I proved myself 
among my colleagues and authorities that any job on the computer can't be 
done by sighted people, I am called for final solution. e.g. we enter the 
salary of one institute have 300 employess. this job can be done at one 
stroke. while uploading the salary each and every time my sighted colleagues 
get strucked on it. finally, i give them instructions and they do the job 
for me because the function is inaccessible with jaws. in mass level, it is 
difficult to organise such meeting. any outside agency can approach the bank 
to organise such thing.


- Original Message - 
From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please 
participate




Bhavani and others,

That's a valid point. However, you guys those are in the banks can do 
something about. You can start informal. One thing you can do is to 
organize an hour session to co-workers, possibly including those who are 
responsible for web based products, during the session, you cn introduce 
web accessibility what, why and a bit about how... You can also 
demonstrate those products with assistive technologies and explain how 
accessibility can also benefit other users. Remember, you should talk in a 
constructive manner and with details but not in a complaining approach.


I can do such presentations on Saturdays on request with a fee.

Good luck,

Regards,

Srinivasu
http://srinivasu.org Twitter: @vasutweets
Sent from my iPad

On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:29 AM, "bhawani shankar verma" 
 wrote:


until the web content accessibility guideline 2.0 not be followed, the 
accessibility issue can not be resolved. unfortunately, in our system the 
designation carries override effect on knowledge. if the employee is 
lower on designation and having sound knowledge, nobody will listen him. 
I raised the issue of accessibility before the ED of PNB, but, i the 
matter has gone after a big dinner. however, i will  participate on 
survey and my wishes for success is with you. if any assistance will be 
required from my side on this matter, i will always be available. thanks.


- Original Message - From: "Vamshi. G" 
To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:53 PM
Subject: [AI] Accessibility survey for bank employees: Please participate



Dear Friends


Visually challenged bank employees  are facing inaccessible work
environment in banks.

Particularly CBS and other softwares used in banks are many a times
not made accessible for us.

We have decided to persue the matter vigorously.

However, for this, we require tangible data about inaccessibility in 
banking.


So, friends, do share your experiences and fill in the survey about
the subject hosted at:

www.sahaayit.com/survey/survey.htm

As you all can appreciate this is of utmost importance, so do take out
few minutes and do cooperate..

Regards
Moderation team
VIB India
An e-group for visually challenged bankers


--
G. Vamshi
Mobile: +91 9949349497
Skype: gvamshi81

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