[AI] Kafila: A Critique of The Draft Rights of Persons with Disabilities Bill, 2014: Amba Salelkar

2014-02-03 Thread avinash shahi
Please read this insightful post and friends if you are away from
Delhi and can't joinus,  do circulate widely among your networks.

February 3, 2014
tags: Disabilities Bill 2014, disabilityby Lawrence Liang
.Guest post by  Amba Salelkar, Inclusive Planet Centre for Disability
Law and Policy
http://kafila.org/2014/02/03/a-critqiue-of-the-draft-rights-of-persons-with-disabilities-bill-2014-amba-salelkar/
The Rights of Persons with Disabilities Bill was meant to be an
enactment to codify India's obligations under the UNCRPD, which it
ratified without reservations. There was a Committee set up in 2009 by
the Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment, headed by Smt. Sudha
Kaul, to draft a Bill to this effect. Like the UNCRPD says, the
Committee included different people with disabilities - across
disabilities - to draft this Bill. The Draft Bill of 2011 was
submitted to the Ministry, and in response to that or otherwise, the
Ministry released a Draft Bill in 2012, which are both on the
Ministry's website.

The Draft Bill of 2012 is not as comprehensive and inclusive as the
2011 one, and there were certain serious issues raised before the
Ministry on the notification of the 2012 Draft. Thereafter the Draft,
apparently still in its 2012 format, went to the various Cabinet
Minstries, and then circulated among States. Some version of this Bill
was cleared by Cabinet in December 2013. Thereafter, organizations of
persons with disabilities, confident that the 2012 Draft was intact,
began protests for the speedy introduction and passage of the Bill. I
do not know why they did not believe that there had been changes made,
but I assume it was in good faith. These protests were largely led by
groups in Delhi who had better access to information. Some pockets of
regional groups were demanding for information on the contents of the
Bill. They remained unanswered. Meenakshi B of the Disability Rights
Alliance, Tamil Nadu, followed up with the Ministries and the general
passage of the Bill, and she was told that the Bill was 'top secret'.
Vaishnavi J, one of the founders of The Banyan, also received similar
cryptic feedback.


On Wednesday, the 22nd of January, Adv. Santosh Kumar Rungta released
a copy of the Bill along with his comments on how it was
unsatisfactory on the point of reservations. This was not an official
release. When I read the Bill I was shocked at how not only had it
completely changed the 2012 Draft, it was also oscillating between lip
service and absolute violations of the UNCRPD. Parliament sits on the
5th of Feb now, and since we are dealing with people with disabilities
here, it is difficult to spread accessible information and raise
debate because of their unique needs, even so, we are trying.
Inclusive Planet has prepared an analysis of the Bill with respect to
India's obligations under the UNCRPD and NALSAR has released a
comparison between the 2012 Bill and this Bill as well. [1]

You might want to look into this. Personally I feel that the needs of
Persons with Disabilities are being sacrificed for a quickfix social
legislation on the part of the Congress Government to campaign with.
There is no question of reference to the standing committee, because
there is no time before Parliament is dissolved before elections for
the three months for a SC to give its report.

Unlike some organziations who have decided to give a list of
amendments to Cabinet to carry out in the Bill pre introduction, we
believe that there is not enough time for this to be a democratic
process with all persons with disabilities included, and so for now we
want the Ministry to withdraw the Bill from Cabinet for
reconsideration on account of this grave, for lack of a better word,
fraud, played by the Ministry in making so many changes without even
releasing the Bill in the public before its introduction in Cabinet.








Detailed Analysis of the draft bill:



The Draft Rights of Persons with Disabilities Bill was shrouded in
mystery since its  notification on the website of the Ministry of
Social Justice and Welfare in 2012. For a Bill that was touted to be
framed by an inclusive process, the version of the Bill cleared by
cabinet was only made available to the general public just a fortnight
before the proposed parliamentary session which seeks its introduction
and passing.

As the Inclusive Planet Centre for Disability Law and Policy works
across disabilities and across sectors, I found that it was best to
examine the Bill from the perspective of the UNCRPD and whether its
Articles and therefore India's obligations, were complied with, before
analyzing individual provisions for other infirmities. I chose not to
compare the Bill to its previous drafts at this initial stage because
the objective of this Bill is clearly to enact India's obligations
under the UNCRPD and for this exercise such analysis was not relevant.

A reading of the Bill reveals that there is a complete lack of
understanding of the approach of the 

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Re: [AI] regarding RPD bill

2014-02-03 Thread avinash shahi
Brilliant Analyses.
Thank you,.
On 2/3/14, Poonam Persedi poonam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friends,

 Well, i fully agree with avinash and those of others who favour a
 comprehensive debate in the parliament. Here, it would be quite in
 context for us to note that as a matter of general practice, laws are
 passed only after a comprehensive debate.

 Comprehensive debate is a must for the following reasons as well:

   1 a comprehensive debate will compel the honourable parliamentarians
  to study the bill in debth resulting in their sensetization and
 orientation to disability rights issues-- a fact which will work to
 the advantage of persons with disabilities.
   2 since parliamentary proceedings are telecast live these days, such
 a debate will also sensitize the general public on a large scale.
  3 comprehensive debate on the subject will also send out a message
 loud and clear that the parliament attaches atmost importance to
 rights of persons with disabilities.
 4  passing the bill without a debate will only serve to reinforce the
 bechara attitude to persons with disabilities.
  5 the most importantly, there exists  some flaws of serious nature
 which need to be corrected.
  6 the existing PWD act was passed without a debate and we know the
 consequences. Not one amendment could be brought about in the last
 16-17 years of its enactment. Therefore, to think that we can get this
 law amended later within a reasonable timeframe is to live in a fools
 paradise.

 Best regards,
 Poonam.

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[AI] Scribe rules in upcoming CTET exam

2014-02-03 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
visit: http://ctet.nic.in/ctetapp/PDF/specialprovision.pdf

Hi friends these rules will be applicable in upcoming CTET exam
scheduled on 16th Feb.

In accordance with the Government of India, Ministry of Social Justice
and Empowerment Department of Disability guidelines vide OM F. No.
16-110/2003-DD.III dated 26.02.2013 and subsequent CBSE OM No.
CBSE/F-61/2013 dated 15.04.2013, the following instructions are
applicable regarding differently abled candidates during the conduct
of CTET Examination:-
1. The differently abled candidates may be given compensatory time of
50 minutes in each paper of CTET- FEB 2014 Examination for differently
abled candidates who are making use of scribe/amanuensis. All the
candidates with disability not availing the facility of scribe may
also be allowed compensatory time of 50 minutes.
2. The facility of scribe/amanuensis may be allowed to any person who
has disability of 40% of more if so desired by the person.
3. The candidate may be permitted for opting of his own
scribe/amanuensis or may be provided by the Centre Superintendent on
his/her request. Such candidates are advised to request the centre
superintendent for amanuensis one day before the examination in
between 10:00 AM to 1:00 PM.
4. There will be no criteria for educational qualification, age etc.
for the scribe/ amanuensis.
5. Proper seating arrangement preferably at ground floor, should be
made prior to the commencement of Examination to avoid confusion.
6. The time of giving the question paper, should be marked accurately
and timely supply of question paper meant for visually impaired
candidates, should be ensured.
7. There should also be flexibility in accommodating any change in
scribe/reader/lab assistant in case of emergency. The candidates
should also be allowed to take more than one scribe/reader for writing
different papers especially for language.
As per earlier CTET examinations, there will be separate Question
Paper for Visually Impaired candidates.


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Re: [AI] Do join: Protest at the Official residence of DOPT

2014-02-03 Thread Neelima Surve
Until now, Accept Amiyo , shireenn. Other's language was so tough for
me. Still I am agree with Avinash  others.   changes are badly
require in this bill. NFB is doing really well job.

If the defination of low vision  totally blind will remain like this,
as someone says, that the people who can see 6 or less than 6 mitter
are also called totally blind. it mean, those who are 100% totally
blind, who cannot see, will be sure without afraiding, that there is
no job or any post for us.

Yes! it is very easy to sitting on computer  writing something.

Again My also best wishes are with them.

Please keep the updates on here time to time.

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Re: [AI] Do join: Protest at the Official residence of DOPT

2014-02-03 Thread Khushi Vishwakarma
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On Monday, 3 February 2014 4:25 PM, Neelima Surve neelima.a...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
Until now, Accept Amiyo , shireenn. Other's language was so tough for
me. Still I am agree with Avinash  others.   changes are badly
require in this bill. NFB is doing really well job.

If the defination of low vision  totally blind will remain like this,
as someone says, that the people who can see 6 or less than 6 mitter
are also called totally blind. it mean, those who are 100% totally
blind, who cannot see, will be sure without afraiding, that there is
no job or any post for us.

Yes! it is very easy to sitting on computer  writing something.

Again My also best wishes are with them.

Please keep the updates on here time to time.

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[AI] job alert from eyeway

2014-02-03 Thread Eyeway Helpdesk
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[AI] Order

2014-02-03 Thread Silpa Mallipeddi
Hi,
I've a doubt.
When ARIA and/or HTML is used, how do we expect the order of a form
field to be read with Jaws/NVDA?
For instance, should we hear caption/label(First name), then type of
form field (edit or combo box), then the required tag?

Thanks and regards,
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[AI] How to spam digest mode of accessindia mails?

2014-02-03 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
Hi friends how to spam access india mails which are being received in
digest mode? I have press spam butten after opening the mail, yet its
coming into the inbox directly. Please suggest me that how can it be
done so as to reach mails into spam folder?

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[AI] daisy player for computer.

2014-02-03 Thread Mohit Gupta
hi
I want a daisy player other than F S reader for windows 7 computer.
Kindly suggest me for the same.

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Re: [AI] Do join: Protest at the Official residence of DOPT Minister, V. Narayanaswamy tomorrow

2014-02-03 Thread Shireen Irani
hi Kanchan,
a lot of the articles being published so far, particulary the 1 in the
sunday times, posted here by Kriti, and another 1 posted by avinash,
keep iterating the fact that we have been intentionally kept out of
the loop, and the bill kept a secret till this time. i know that it is
generally wiser to not be so misstrustful about people's intentions,
but do u think, that there is some truth to this?? or is it an
exageration by the media as a general practice??
if it is the latter, then in any case there is no harm in us actually
taking advantage of it, and try and gain as much media coverage at the
venue of the protest, which could perhaps create enough pressure on
the concerned authority in the last couple of days.
if possible avinash and all those physically present, do try and get
as much of the press as u possibly can when you're out there.
wish u all the  luck!!

On 2/3/14, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 I agree with Kanchan Ma'am when she says that we cannot afford to miss this
 opportunity in our quest for utopia. This is just a case of the perfect
 being the  enemy of the good, in my opinion.
 Avinash, while I agree with you that such important bills should only be
 passed after conducting  detailed   and informed discussions,  the fact is
 that most bills are passed without conducting any meaningful discussion in
 the Parliament. You have put your finger on a major flaw in the lawmaking
 procedure that is followed by our country, and I honestly don't think that
 we can change  the system in the near future.
 In an ideal world, our voices would be heard and the necessary alterations
 would be incorporated in the existing bill. In the real world, though, the
 only thing that these protests will do is that they will prevent the bill
 from getting passed in this session.
 Notwithstanding some major flaws, this bill is definitely better than the
 1995 Act, and I earnestly believe that we should make all possible efforts
 to get it passed in the coming session.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 2, 2014, at 11:21 PM, Mahesh S. Panicker
 maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:

 If the bill is to be passed, then the proposed changes have to be
 included. The bill is not good for the disabled in the current form,
 and waiting for an amendment may not be the smartest idea. Remember
 the PWD Act hasn't had one meaningful amendment in more than 18 years.
 We need a solid legislation, and the efforts should be to make the
 government bring about the essential changes in the bill before it is
 passed.

 On 2/2/14, Shireen Irani shireen@gmail.com wrote:
 wouldn't that be more difficult?? just asking. because once u have
 things on paper, things can be very difficult to change. and then most
 of the officials involved will probably wash their hands off us
 claiming that we are only creating mennace.
 while it is true, that waiting for another 5 years is not a good idea,
 there's no harm in going on pushing till the endth hour. if things
 cant change, then the bill can be passed as is.
 my other worry is that they might turn around and say that all this
 should have been thought of, while making the bill itself. its
 probably not very smart to pass the bill, and then immediately fight
 for amendments.
 of course experts will know better, this is just of the top of my head.

 On 2/2/14, li...@srinivasu.org li...@srinivasu.org wrote:


 Avinash.
 One thought: can we not get this bill passed and then push for
 amendment?

 I saw someone on this list asking Mr. Abidi that why did he not see the
 bill
 before putting efforts to get the bill tabled? I think it's also
 responsibility of everyone. Why did author of that email brought up the
 issues before?

 I agree with Kanchan that current drafted bill is better than the
 existing
 one. Yes, there are issues but friends, do you think if we miss this
 session, do we get the law soon?

 I sincerely feel we should now get it passed and then put in strong
 efforts
 to get the amendments.

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 On 02-Feb-2014, at 22:17, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Its not eutopia mam.
 India have pledged to bring in its domestic law in conformity with the
 UNCRPD and this approved law has violated many of UNCRPD's fundamental
 principles.
 Better we mend this law within the time otherwise we have struggled
 enough to see implementation of PWD and this bill if gets passed in
 its current form, we particuarly blind will be the biggest loser.
 On 2/2/14, KanchanPamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Avinash and others,
 This is not a black law. 

Re: [AI] (no subject)

2014-02-03 Thread srinivas.karnati

i also fully agree with poonam.
- Original Message - 
From: Poonam Persedi poonam...@gmail.com

To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 8:33 AM
Subject: [AI] (no subject)



Re: Do join: Protest at the Official residence of DOPT
 Minister, V. Narayanaswamy tomorrow (KanchanPamnani)
Dear friends!
I am afraid I am unable to agree with Kanchan madam. On the contrary,
I do agree with Avinash and others who do not favour the passage of
this bill in its present form as it is replete with serious flaws
which will have catastrophic consequences and which run counter to the
purpose and spirit of UNCRPD.
Let us not lose sight of the fact that we could not even get the
existing PWD Act amended in the last sixteen seventeen years of its
enactment despite the realisation that it has any number of
inadequacies. The report of the Amita Dhanda committee constituted in
1999 for the purpose of suggesting amendments was conveniently
shelved. Even efforts to bring about a new law would not have been
made had it not been for India ratifying the UNCRPD. Therefore, we
should rather wait to get a better and fair deal unless the bill is
amended as suggested by Mr. Rungta.
In the above view of the matter, I wish to place on record my sincere
appreciation and solidarity with the National Federation of the Blind
in general and Mr. Santosh Rungta in particular for such visible and
positive proactivism for getting a fair deal for persons with
disabilities including for the blind.
Best regards,
Poonam

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[AI] Insight: Retina India medical newsletter

2014-02-03 Thread Vamshi. G
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A camera technology developed in Montreal that has
been used to gaze into the farthest reaches of the
universe is now being adapted to peer into the
back of the human eye to detect early signs of
disease and prevent blindness.
(http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/Made+Montreal+camera+technology+could+help+detect+early+signs+disease/9455608/story.html)

A six-second eye scan can tell you if you#8217;re
going to get diabetes.
(http://www.fastcoexist.com/3025364/this-six-second-eye-scan-can-tell-you-if-youre-going-to-get-diabetes)

Investigators have developed human
induced-pluripotent stem cells (iPSCs) capable of
repairing damaged retinal vascular tissue in mice.
(http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140123221915.htm)

Dopamine-restoring drugs already used to treat
Parkinson#8217;s disease may also be beneficial
for the treatment of diabetic retinopathy.
(http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140122134323.htm)

FDA (USA) approves Hetlioz, the first treatment
for non-24 hour sleep-wake disorder in blind
individuals
(http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm384092.htm?source=govdeliveryamp;utm_medium=emailamp;utm_source=govdelivery).

Researchers develop technique to study
inflammatory process in pancreas during
development of type 1 diabetes.
(http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140129075804.htm)

A group of National Eye Institute-funded
researchers found that curcumin, the active
ingredient in turmeric, may be effective in
treating retinitis pigmentosa (RP).
(http://www.nei.nih.gov/news/scienceadvances/advances/spice.asp)

A clinical trial involving treatment with 9-cis
beta-carotene-rich powder in patients with
retinitis pigmentosa (RP).
(http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/818507)

Cells taken from the donated eyes of dead people
may be able to give sight to patients affected by
macular degeneration (AMD) or retinitis pigmentosa
(RP).
(http://www.thedailystar.net/dead-eyes-may-give-sight-to-blind-9615)

Tiny #8216;telescopes#8217; implanted into the
eyes can restore sight in those with age-related
macular degeneration (AMD).
(http://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/telescope-implant-restores-sight-in-macular-degeneration-114011300613_1.html)

Double line spacing and double word spacing may
make reading easier for patients with macular
degeneration (AMD).
(http://www.pharmacytimes.com/publications/issue/2014/January2014/Spacing-May-Improve-Reading-for-Macular-Degeneration-Patients)

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Re: [AI] daisy player for computer.

2014-02-03 Thread Amiyo Biswas

If you use Jaws, then use fs reader. It is quite good.

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hi
I want a daisy player other than F S reader for windows 7 computer.
Kindly suggest me for the same.

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Re: [AI] daisy player for computer.

2014-02-03 Thread Ram Agarwal
Dear Mohit,
Karishma Enterprises offers several models of portable Daisy players such as
follows:

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For more details you can write to me and shall send you the brochures.

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Subject: [AI] daisy player for computer.

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I want a daisy player other than F S reader for windows 7 computer.
Kindly suggest me for the same.

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Re: [AI] regarding RPD bill

2014-02-03 Thread Ketan Kothari

Dear friends,

Although Poonam's analysis is great, I would be truly surprised if 
parliament debates this bill.  The attitude of our MP's is full of pity and 
they will not go through the motion.  They will just pass it; I rather have 
the bill go to standing committee where it will be discussed.


Yes, ideally, it should be debated but well ...

With best wishes,

Ketan

-Original Message- 
From: avinash shahi

Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 2:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] regarding RPD bill

Brilliant Analyses.
Thank you,.
On 2/3/14, Poonam Persedi poonam...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear friends,

Well, i fully agree with avinash and those of others who favour a
comprehensive debate in the parliament. Here, it would be quite in
context for us to note that as a matter of general practice, laws are
passed only after a comprehensive debate.

Comprehensive debate is a must for the following reasons as well:

  1 a comprehensive debate will compel the honourable parliamentarians
 to study the bill in debth resulting in their sensetization and
orientation to disability rights issues-- a fact which will work to
the advantage of persons with disabilities.
  2 since parliamentary proceedings are telecast live these days, such
a debate will also sensitize the general public on a large scale.
 3 comprehensive debate on the subject will also send out a message
loud and clear that the parliament attaches atmost importance to
rights of persons with disabilities.
4  passing the bill without a debate will only serve to reinforce the
bechara attitude to persons with disabilities.
 5 the most importantly, there exists  some flaws of serious nature
which need to be corrected.
 6 the existing PWD act was passed without a debate and we know the
consequences. Not one amendment could be brought about in the last
16-17 years of its enactment. Therefore, to think that we can get this
law amended later within a reasonable timeframe is to live in a fools
paradise.

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Jawaharlal Nehru University
New Delhi India

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Re: [AI] daisy player for computer.

2014-02-03 Thread amit
Hello Mohit,

You can try Dolphin EasyReader,

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read and listen to content through a combination of text, audio and
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The main advantage of using EasyReader is that the content in a book
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 hi
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 Kindly suggest me for the same.

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Re: [AI] American Express Card users with thumb impression anyone?

2014-02-03 Thread Geetha Shamanna
Hi Amar,

Why did you have to use thumb impression? DidAmerican Express object to your
signature? In this age of chip and pin cards, where is the need for thumb
impression?
As an American Express employee and card holder, I am curious as to why you
had to go through this. 

Geetha
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Of Amar Jain
Sent: 03 February 2014 06:52
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] American Express Card users with thumb impression anyone?

Hi List,

Standard thumb impression issue! Anyone using Amex card with thumb
impression here just for the sake of reference? Legally I am all set though.

Thanks,
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Re: [AI] Do join: Protest at the Official residence of DOPT Minister, V. Narayanaswamy tomorrow

2014-02-03 Thread Ajay Arora
guys
another very problematic provision in the proposed act is that of age
relaxation.
under the heading of reservation the act says:
(3) The appropriate Government shall by notification, provide
relaxation of upper age limit upto five years for employment of
persons with bench mark disability.
note: earlier the age relaxation was ten years.
so now who have turned 35, or about to be 35, will no longer be able
to seek job in the government sector. whereas, earlier a person with
disability could seek age relaxation of ten years, upto the age of
forty in matters of public employment.

On 2/3/14, Shireen Irani shireen@gmail.com wrote:
 hi Kanchan,
 a lot of the articles being published so far, particulary the 1 in the
 sunday times, posted here by Kriti, and another 1 posted by avinash,
 keep iterating the fact that we have been intentionally kept out of
 the loop, and the bill kept a secret till this time. i know that it is
 generally wiser to not be so misstrustful about people's intentions,
 but do u think, that there is some truth to this?? or is it an
 exageration by the media as a general practice??
 if it is the latter, then in any case there is no harm in us actually
 taking advantage of it, and try and gain as much media coverage at the
 venue of the protest, which could perhaps create enough pressure on
 the concerned authority in the last couple of days.
 if possible avinash and all those physically present, do try and get
 as much of the press as u possibly can when you're out there.
 wish u all the  luck!!

 On 2/3/14, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 I agree with Kanchan Ma'am when she says that we cannot afford to miss
 this
 opportunity in our quest for utopia. This is just a case of the perfect
 being the  enemy of the good, in my opinion.
 Avinash, while I agree with you that such important bills should only be
 passed after conducting  detailed   and informed discussions,  the fact
 is
 that most bills are passed without conducting any meaningful discussion
 in
 the Parliament. You have put your finger on a major flaw in the lawmaking
 procedure that is followed by our country, and I honestly don't think
 that
 we can change  the system in the near future.
 In an ideal world, our voices would be heard and the necessary
 alterations
 would be incorporated in the existing bill. In the real world, though,
 the
 only thing that these protests will do is that they will prevent the bill
 from getting passed in this session.
 Notwithstanding some major flaws, this bill is definitely better than the
 1995 Act, and I earnestly believe that we should make all possible
 efforts
 to get it passed in the coming session.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 2, 2014, at 11:21 PM, Mahesh S. Panicker
 maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:

 If the bill is to be passed, then the proposed changes have to be
 included. The bill is not good for the disabled in the current form,
 and waiting for an amendment may not be the smartest idea. Remember
 the PWD Act hasn't had one meaningful amendment in more than 18 years.
 We need a solid legislation, and the efforts should be to make the
 government bring about the essential changes in the bill before it is
 passed.

 On 2/2/14, Shireen Irani shireen@gmail.com wrote:
 wouldn't that be more difficult?? just asking. because once u have
 things on paper, things can be very difficult to change. and then most
 of the officials involved will probably wash their hands off us
 claiming that we are only creating mennace.
 while it is true, that waiting for another 5 years is not a good idea,
 there's no harm in going on pushing till the endth hour. if things
 cant change, then the bill can be passed as is.
 my other worry is that they might turn around and say that all this
 should have been thought of, while making the bill itself. its
 probably not very smart to pass the bill, and then immediately fight
 for amendments.
 of course experts will know better, this is just of the top of my head.

 On 2/2/14, li...@srinivasu.org li...@srinivasu.org wrote:


 Avinash.
 One thought: can we not get this bill passed and then push for
 amendment?

 I saw someone on this list asking Mr. Abidi that why did he not see
 the
 bill
 before putting efforts to get the bill tabled? I think it's also
 responsibility of everyone. Why did author of that email brought up
 the
 issues before?

 I agree with Kanchan that current drafted bill is better than the
 existing
 one. Yes, there are issues but friends, do you think if we miss this
 session, do we get the law soon?

 I sincerely feel we should now get it passed and then put in strong
 efforts
 to get the amendments.

 Best regards,

 Srinivasu Chakravarthula
 Mobile: +91 990 081 0881
 Website: http://www.srinivasu.org |http://sgaccessibility.com
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[AI] An Interesting Course announced by VMS-RS Centre for Computer Education, Mumbai

2014-02-03 Thread Amjad Ahmed Fitwala
Friends,

The VMS-RS Centre for Computer Education, Victoria Memorial School for
the Blind, Mumbai has come up with another interesting training for
the partially cited and low-vision candidates. The course details are
as follows:

COURSE NAME: HARDWARE  NETWORKING

DURATION: 4 to 6 Months.

DAYS AND TIMING:
Thursday, Friday and Saturday
from 4:30 pm to 6:30 pm

FEES: Rs. 1,500/- Per month. (Non-Refundable)

Note: Fees to be paid before 5th of every month.

ELIGIBILITY:

This course is currently offered to only Partially Blind and
Low-Vision Candidates.
The Basic Computer Knowledge is quite essential for the said course.

EDUCATIONAL QUALIFICATION:

The candidate must have passed HSC from any recognized board.

TOPICS COVERED:

*   Introduction to Computers / Parts of the Computer
*   Basics of Electronics and Electricity
*   Tools Required For Hardware
*   How to Assemble the Computer
*   Partition and Formatting
*   Operating System Installations
*   Installations of 3rd Party Software's
*   Trouble Shooting
*   Networking Basics

For more information, the interested candidates may contact at:

VMS-Radha Subrahmanian Centre for Computer Education
Victoria Memorial School for the Blind
Tardeo, Mumbai - 400 034
Tel: 022-23514398 / 23531236

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  Minister, V. Narayanaswamy tomorrow (HARSHVARDHAN SINGH NEGI)
   2. regarding RPD bill (Poonam Persedi)
   3. Re: Do join: Protest at the Official residence of DOPT
  Minister, V. Narayanaswamy tomorrow (HARSHVARDHAN SINGH NEGI)
   4. Re: Do join: Protest at the Official residence of
  DOPTMinister, V. Narayanaswamy tomorrow (HARSHVARDHAN SINGH NEGI)
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Re: [AI] American Express Card users with thumb impression anyone?

2014-02-03 Thread Amar Jain
Hi Mam,

Thanks for the response; as a matter of practice I am still using
thumb impression till I do not obtain comfort and a predictable result
with my signature, which I am still practicing. And that is where the
problem is coming from.

Previously they sighted legal issues, which I could easily take care
of due to the circulars and legal provisions of laws, but now here is
another angle of Risk Management. Due to the absense of biometric
devices, they are not happy to process it sighting this angle.

I have spoken with RBI (Department of Banking Operations and
Development) which issued the circular, and their view is that absense
of biometric devices cannot be the reason to deny this facility to
you. So if that ground is put forward by them, it is open to
challenge.

Based on my discussions and email communications I understand that in
U.S. and other jurisdictions people either use signature or draw a
letter in presence of a witness.

Regards,
-- 
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com

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Re: [AI] Do join: Protest at the Official residence of DOPT Minister, V. Narayanaswamy tomorrow

2014-02-03 Thread muruganandan.k
Dear activists fighting out for our rights and other friends, on
reading the RPD draft fully, I strongly believe that the harms to be
caused by the passing of this bill in its current form will be
definitely far worse than the fruits it promises to bring.
Its surely not a good idea to pass it on and then beg for amendments,
and I sincerely  request the protest-strategist and activists to
consider all other possible alternates that would check its passing
without at least minimum rectifications.
the draft sounds too ridiculous to accept at manifold places. With no
such differentiation being made so far between the totally blind and
low vision, totally blind will be the most deprived of all as only
those with virtually low vision will be preferred for employment even
under the totally blind category. As far as I know, many states like
Tamilnadu do not even have the category of low vision. all the persons
with low vision are counted only as blind, and the doctors also
certify everyone as 'Hundred Per Cent Blind'! in this condition, how
the act (if it turns out to be) can be implemented? I also feel the
reservation pattern is also not based on any logic. And the CCPD will
no longer have the same powers, the really beneficial orders we have
been getting from the Chief Commissioner so far will, no longer be
possible to get, even if our Mr. Pincha sir like committed people are
there in the office!
finally, the PWD act 1995 at least is silent on many issues of serious
concern, and the activists are able to at least approach the court and
get the cases interpreted in our favour. But, with the present bill, I
think it, in the name of including all the issues, has largely diluted
the matters and offers grave loop-wholes for the bureaucracy to
sideline, discriminate and neglect us as many in the list have
explained.

We have got our rights and provisions only through our own struggles,
irrespective of the governments in power. Lets fight out this also!
Really regret for not being able to join you all in the Darna being at
another end of the country... but wish you all success, and we here in
Tamilnadu and Puducherry will also do our bestfrom our end in all
possible ways!

thank you.

On 2/4/14, Ajay Arora ajayaror...@gmail.com wrote:
 guys
 another very problematic provision in the proposed act is that of age
 relaxation.
 under the heading of reservation the act says:
 (3) The appropriate Government shall by notification, provide
 relaxation of upper age limit upto five years for employment of
 persons with bench mark disability.
 note: earlier the age relaxation was ten years.
 so now who have turned 35, or about to be 35, will no longer be able
 to seek job in the government sector. whereas, earlier a person with
 disability could seek age relaxation of ten years, upto the age of
 forty in matters of public employment.

 On 2/3/14, Shireen Irani shireen@gmail.com wrote:
 hi Kanchan,
 a lot of the articles being published so far, particulary the 1 in the
 sunday times, posted here by Kriti, and another 1 posted by avinash,
 keep iterating the fact that we have been intentionally kept out of
 the loop, and the bill kept a secret till this time. i know that it is
 generally wiser to not be so misstrustful about people's intentions,
 but do u think, that there is some truth to this?? or is it an
 exageration by the media as a general practice??
 if it is the latter, then in any case there is no harm in us actually
 taking advantage of it, and try and gain as much media coverage at the
 venue of the protest, which could perhaps create enough pressure on
 the concerned authority in the last couple of days.
 if possible avinash and all those physically present, do try and get
 as much of the press as u possibly can when you're out there.
 wish u all the  luck!!

 On 2/3/14, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 I agree with Kanchan Ma'am when she says that we cannot afford to miss
 this
 opportunity in our quest for utopia. This is just a case of the perfect
 being the  enemy of the good, in my opinion.
 Avinash, while I agree with you that such important bills should only be
 passed after conducting  detailed   and informed discussions,  the fact
 is
 that most bills are passed without conducting any meaningful discussion
 in
 the Parliament. You have put your finger on a major flaw in the
 lawmaking
 procedure that is followed by our country, and I honestly don't think
 that
 we can change  the system in the near future.
 In an ideal world, our voices would be heard and the necessary
 alterations
 would be incorporated in the existing bill. In the real world, though,
 the
 only thing that these protests will do is that they will prevent the
 bill
 from getting passed in this session.
 Notwithstanding some major flaws, this bill is definitely better than
 the
 1995 Act, and I earnestly believe that we should make all possible
 efforts
 to get it passed in the coming session.

 Sent from my 

[AI] informing about course matterials

2014-02-03 Thread Suresh chand soni
hi all
you will be pleased to know that we record course matterials for v.i.
if anyone want to get cd or dvd about banking, railway, h s c or i a
s. course matterials so you can mail to Mrs. anita sharma  madam.
her e mail i d is
voiceforbl...@gmail.com
until next time take good care.
yours warmly
suresh chand soni
mobile number 09001678767.

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Re: [AI] American Express Card users with thumb impression anyone?

2014-02-03 Thread Kiran Kaja
That is interesting. When I was living in India, I did use a couple of
credit cards. I never had any retailer complain about my signature not
matching. Also they didn't complain about it when I was applying for the
card too. I didn't tell them I am blind even. I had a lot of trouble with
opening bank accounts though.

I wonder if American Express in India will let you apply for a card over the
phone or online. These days in the UK, we don't have paper applications. We
either apply online or on the phone. In this case, there is no need to
inform that you are blind.

Regards,
Kiran
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Amar Jain
Sent: 04 February 2014 04:39
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] American Express Card users with thumb impression anyone?

Hi Mam,

Thanks for the response; as a matter of practice I am still using
thumb impression till I do not obtain comfort and a predictable result
with my signature, which I am still practicing. And that is where the
problem is coming from.

Previously they sighted legal issues, which I could easily take care
of due to the circulars and legal provisions of laws, but now here is
another angle of Risk Management. Due to the absense of biometric
devices, they are not happy to process it sighting this angle.

I have spoken with RBI (Department of Banking Operations and
Development) which issued the circular, and their view is that absense
of biometric devices cannot be the reason to deny this facility to
you. So if that ground is put forward by them, it is open to
challenge.

Based on my discussions and email communications I understand that in
U.S. and other jurisdictions people either use signature or draw a
letter in presence of a witness.

Regards,
-- 
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com

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Re: [AI] Do join: Protest at the Official residence of DOPT Minister, V. Narayanaswamy tomorrow

2014-02-03 Thread Misbah
After going through with this cabinet approve draft, I wish that it
must be oppose with our full strength. apart from several loophols, it
nullifies one of the fundamental right of a human wich is absence of
any sortof discremenation against persons with disability.
the drafters of this bill has even gone against the sole of our
constitution by legitimising discremenation  on the name of  securing
a legitimate means.
I hope that we will fought and fought strongly.
Best
Misbah

On 2/4/14, muruganandan.k send2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear activists fighting out for our rights and other friends, on
 reading the RPD draft fully, I strongly believe that the harms to be
 caused by the passing of this bill in its current form will be
 definitely far worse than the fruits it promises to bring.
 Its surely not a good idea to pass it on and then beg for amendments,
 and I sincerely  request the protest-strategist and activists to
 consider all other possible alternates that would check its passing
 without at least minimum rectifications.
 the draft sounds too ridiculous to accept at manifold places. With no
 such differentiation being made so far between the totally blind and
 low vision, totally blind will be the most deprived of all as only
 those with virtually low vision will be preferred for employment even
 under the totally blind category. As far as I know, many states like
 Tamilnadu do not even have the category of low vision. all the persons
 with low vision are counted only as blind, and the doctors also
 certify everyone as 'Hundred Per Cent Blind'! in this condition, how
 the act (if it turns out to be) can be implemented? I also feel the
 reservation pattern is also not based on any logic. And the CCPD will
 no longer have the same powers, the really beneficial orders we have
 been getting from the Chief Commissioner so far will, no longer be
 possible to get, even if our Mr. Pincha sir like committed people are
 there in the office!
 finally, the PWD act 1995 at least is silent on many issues of serious
 concern, and the activists are able to at least approach the court and
 get the cases interpreted in our favour. But, with the present bill, I
 think it, in the name of including all the issues, has largely diluted
 the matters and offers grave loop-wholes for the bureaucracy to
 sideline, discriminate and neglect us as many in the list have
 explained.

 We have got our rights and provisions only through our own struggles,
 irrespective of the governments in power. Lets fight out this also!
 Really regret for not being able to join you all in the Darna being at
 another end of the country... but wish you all success, and we here in
 Tamilnadu and Puducherry will also do our bestfrom our end in all
 possible ways!

 thank you.

 On 2/4/14, Ajay Arora ajayaror...@gmail.com wrote:
 guys
 another very problematic provision in the proposed act is that of age
 relaxation.
 under the heading of reservation the act says:
 (3) The appropriate Government shall by notification, provide
 relaxation of upper age limit upto five years for employment of
 persons with bench mark disability.
 note: earlier the age relaxation was ten years.
 so now who have turned 35, or about to be 35, will no longer be able
 to seek job in the government sector. whereas, earlier a person with
 disability could seek age relaxation of ten years, upto the age of
 forty in matters of public employment.

 On 2/3/14, Shireen Irani shireen@gmail.com wrote:
 hi Kanchan,
 a lot of the articles being published so far, particulary the 1 in the
 sunday times, posted here by Kriti, and another 1 posted by avinash,
 keep iterating the fact that we have been intentionally kept out of
 the loop, and the bill kept a secret till this time. i know that it is
 generally wiser to not be so misstrustful about people's intentions,
 but do u think, that there is some truth to this?? or is it an
 exageration by the media as a general practice??
 if it is the latter, then in any case there is no harm in us actually
 taking advantage of it, and try and gain as much media coverage at the
 venue of the protest, which could perhaps create enough pressure on
 the concerned authority in the last couple of days.
 if possible avinash and all those physically present, do try and get
 as much of the press as u possibly can when you're out there.
 wish u all the  luck!!

 On 2/3/14, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 I agree with Kanchan Ma'am when she says that we cannot afford to miss
 this
 opportunity in our quest for utopia. This is just a case of the perfect
 being the  enemy of the good, in my opinion.
 Avinash, while I agree with you that such important bills should only
 be
 passed after conducting  detailed   and informed discussions,  the fact
 is
 that most bills are passed without conducting any meaningful discussion
 in
 the Parliament. You have put your finger on a major flaw in the
 lawmaking
 procedure that is followed 

Re: [AI] Do join: Protest at the Official residence of DOPT Minister, V. Narayanaswamy tomorrow

2014-02-03 Thread Misbah
One more caution,
Just think about the office of Chief Commissioner for persons with disability.
No one would have even aware with the power and functions of this
watch-dog institution, until it got a person with disability as its
head in 2010.
Now we know how many landmark judgement this office has given.
We saw a ray a hope whenever our any right and safeguard gets
violated, we immediately rushed to CCPD.
But in accordance to this draft NCPD can be headed by anyone, though
always our philosophy of disability right movement has remain 'nothing
about us, without us'.
This office must be always headed by a person with disability itself
for ever, if we really wish our well being and a prompt response from
bureaucracy.
Apart from it, as Ajay has mention the nature of power of this
institution has also being significantly curtailed through changing
the term of direction with recommendations.
Best


On 2/4/14, Misbah jnu.mis...@gmail.com wrote:
 After going through with this cabinet approve draft, I wish that it
 must be oppose with our full strength. apart from several loophols, it
 nullifies one of the fundamental right of a human wich is absence of
 any sortof discremenation against persons with disability.
 the drafters of this bill has even gone against the sole of our
 constitution by legitimising discremenation  on the name of  securing
 a legitimate means.
 I hope that we will fought and fought strongly.
 Best
 Misbah

 On 2/4/14, muruganandan.k send2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear activists fighting out for our rights and other friends, on
 reading the RPD draft fully, I strongly believe that the harms to be
 caused by the passing of this bill in its current form will be
 definitely far worse than the fruits it promises to bring.
 Its surely not a good idea to pass it on and then beg for amendments,
 and I sincerely  request the protest-strategist and activists to
 consider all other possible alternates that would check its passing
 without at least minimum rectifications.
 the draft sounds too ridiculous to accept at manifold places. With no
 such differentiation being made so far between the totally blind and
 low vision, totally blind will be the most deprived of all as only
 those with virtually low vision will be preferred for employment even
 under the totally blind category. As far as I know, many states like
 Tamilnadu do not even have the category of low vision. all the persons
 with low vision are counted only as blind, and the doctors also
 certify everyone as 'Hundred Per Cent Blind'! in this condition, how
 the act (if it turns out to be) can be implemented? I also feel the
 reservation pattern is also not based on any logic. And the CCPD will
 no longer have the same powers, the really beneficial orders we have
 been getting from the Chief Commissioner so far will, no longer be
 possible to get, even if our Mr. Pincha sir like committed people are
 there in the office!
 finally, the PWD act 1995 at least is silent on many issues of serious
 concern, and the activists are able to at least approach the court and
 get the cases interpreted in our favour. But, with the present bill, I
 think it, in the name of including all the issues, has largely diluted
 the matters and offers grave loop-wholes for the bureaucracy to
 sideline, discriminate and neglect us as many in the list have
 explained.

 We have got our rights and provisions only through our own struggles,
 irrespective of the governments in power. Lets fight out this also!
 Really regret for not being able to join you all in the Darna being at
 another end of the country... but wish you all success, and we here in
 Tamilnadu and Puducherry will also do our bestfrom our end in all
 possible ways!

 thank you.

 On 2/4/14, Ajay Arora ajayaror...@gmail.com wrote:
 guys
 another very problematic provision in the proposed act is that of age
 relaxation.
 under the heading of reservation the act says:
 (3) The appropriate Government shall by notification, provide
 relaxation of upper age limit upto five years for employment of
 persons with bench mark disability.
 note: earlier the age relaxation was ten years.
 so now who have turned 35, or about to be 35, will no longer be able
 to seek job in the government sector. whereas, earlier a person with
 disability could seek age relaxation of ten years, upto the age of
 forty in matters of public employment.

 On 2/3/14, Shireen Irani shireen@gmail.com wrote:
 hi Kanchan,
 a lot of the articles being published so far, particulary the 1 in the
 sunday times, posted here by Kriti, and another 1 posted by avinash,
 keep iterating the fact that we have been intentionally kept out of
 the loop, and the bill kept a secret till this time. i know that it is
 generally wiser to not be so misstrustful about people's intentions,
 but do u think, that there is some truth to this?? or is it an
 exageration by the media as a general practice??
 if it is the latter, then in any case there is no harm in us 

Re: [AI] Do join: Protest at the Official residence of DOPT Minister, V. Narayanaswamy tomorrow

2014-02-03 Thread li...@srinivasu.org
I think the topic is leading to something else. 

In my opinion I'm sorry but I would disagree with the statement that This 
office must be always headed by a person with disability itself. It's not 
about the person with disability or another, it's about attitude , skill and 
willingness to work 

While it's true PWD would aware of issues and solutions for people with 
disables, it is not correct in saying other folks cannot work for PWD.

What if mainstream society think the PWD cannot think of mainstream hence no 
jobs among the mainstream?

Views expressed here are my personal. 

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

 On 04-Feb-2014, at 12:39, Misbah jnu.mis...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One more caution,
 Just think about the office of Chief Commissioner for persons with disability.
 No one would have even aware with the power and functions of this
 watch-dog institution, until it got a person with disability as its
 head in 2010.
 Now we know how many landmark judgement this office has given.
 We saw a ray a hope whenever our any right and safeguard gets
 violated, we immediately rushed to CCPD.
 But in accordance to this draft NCPD can be headed by anyone, though
 always our philosophy of disability right movement has remain 'nothing
 about us, without us'.
 This office must be always headed by a person with disability itself
 for ever, if we really wish our well being and a prompt response from
 bureaucracy.
 Apart from it, as Ajay has mention the nature of power of this
 institution has also being significantly curtailed through changing
 the term of direction with recommendations.
 Best
 
 
 On 2/4/14, Misbah jnu.mis...@gmail.com wrote:
 After going through with this cabinet approve draft, I wish that it
 must be oppose with our full strength. apart from several loophols, it
 nullifies one of the fundamental right of a human wich is absence of
 any sortof discremenation against persons with disability.
 the drafters of this bill has even gone against the sole of our
 constitution by legitimising discremenation  on the name of  securing
 a legitimate means.
 I hope that we will fought and fought strongly.
 Best
 Misbah
 
 On 2/4/14, muruganandan.k send2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear activists fighting out for our rights and other friends, on
 reading the RPD draft fully, I strongly believe that the harms to be
 caused by the passing of this bill in its current form will be
 definitely far worse than the fruits it promises to bring.
 Its surely not a good idea to pass it on and then beg for amendments,
 and I sincerely  request the protest-strategist and activists to
 consider all other possible alternates that would check its passing
 without at least minimum rectifications.
 the draft sounds too ridiculous to accept at manifold places. With no
 such differentiation being made so far between the totally blind and
 low vision, totally blind will be the most deprived of all as only
 those with virtually low vision will be preferred for employment even
 under the totally blind category. As far as I know, many states like
 Tamilnadu do not even have the category of low vision. all the persons
 with low vision are counted only as blind, and the doctors also
 certify everyone as 'Hundred Per Cent Blind'! in this condition, how
 the act (if it turns out to be) can be implemented? I also feel the
 reservation pattern is also not based on any logic. And the CCPD will
 no longer have the same powers, the really beneficial orders we have
 been getting from the Chief Commissioner so far will, no longer be
 possible to get, even if our Mr. Pincha sir like committed people are
 there in the office!
 finally, the PWD act 1995 at least is silent on many issues of serious
 concern, and the activists are able to at least approach the court and
 get the cases interpreted in our favour. But, with the present bill, I
 think it, in the name of including all the issues, has largely diluted
 the matters and offers grave loop-wholes for the bureaucracy to
 sideline, discriminate and neglect us as many in the list have
 explained.
 
 We have got our rights and provisions only through our own struggles,
 irrespective of the governments in power. Lets fight out this also!
 Really regret for not being able to join you all in the Darna being at
 another end of the country... but wish you all success, and we here in
 Tamilnadu and Puducherry will also do our bestfrom our end in all
 possible ways!
 
 thank you.
 
 On 2/4/14, Ajay Arora ajayaror...@gmail.com wrote:
 guys
 another very problematic provision in the proposed act is that of age
 relaxation.
 under the heading of reservation the act says:
 (3) The appropriate Government shall by notification, provide
 relaxation of upper age limit upto five years for employment of
 persons with bench mark disability.
 note: earlier the age relaxation was ten years.
 so now who have turned 35, or about to be 35, will no longer be able
 to seek job in