Re: [AI] Today on the Sexuality and Disability blog

2017-02-28 Thread Payal Kapoor
and, Manish, the site is definitely inaccessible to leave a comment at.
i tried responding to a comment left there but the reply link does not
bring up an edit box or a prompt to sign in or anything of the ssort.

On 3/1/17, Payal Kapoor  wrote:
> all your points make sense Shireen, when in a situation you've
> mentioned. this specific incident mentioned here was not conducive to
> most of what you've suggested. yes, in other situations they could
> definitely be adopted, but when in the situation  i've mentioned, not
> many have the time or inclination to see much beyond themselves. or
> maybe i was dealing with a particularly reticent group.
> the dynamic changes when in a group. why, i am still to understand.
> the getting up from the seat is something a lot of us do i think. my
> main concern here is the absence of initiative to even try.
> i get the absence of eye contact bit being a problem, but there are
> definitely other ways to combat that i'm sure.
>
> On 2/28/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>> since Avinash has invited a discussion on this, here are my 2 bits on
>> a few possible, but not necessarily optimal, solutions: of course what
>> Payal went through is very real, and these tips are not in any way, a
>> counter to her experience. these are just a few pointers off the top
>> of my head that may help some1 in a particular situation, , a lot of
>> which u all may already be aware of.
>> 1. if i know that a particular person is going to be in the same
>> social gathering as myself, whether from work, friends, or family
>> members, i'd ask them a day in advance, if they'd be ok to be with me
>> during that gathering, and accompany me during meals, etc. if i can
>> ask more than 1 person, nothing like it. i could even divide the time,
>> spend it half with 1 accompanist, and the other half with the other.
>> often when the accompanist realises that he/she was not the only
>> option, they are more eager/ willing to accompany.
>> 2. if i'm on the same table with a group of people, and if every1 is
>> part of a single conversation, then i too will proactively participate
>> in that conversation, even if i am not asked something directly. i'd
>> of course hope that i say something remotely sensible/ interesting
>> enough for people to take notice of me, and realise that here is also
>> a person at the table, equally part of the group. its not always
>> possible, but it is just 1, among many strategies to use when
>> feasible.
>> 3. sometimes, i can be the initiator of a conversation at the table.
>> by making some general statement about the food, or the function,
>> something mostly positive, to which other people may be likely to
>> respond. e.g. this biryani is really awesome! or, has any1 tried the
>> dessert yet?
>> 4. if i know that a particular person is sitting somewhere near me,
>> then i can call out to her and start off a conversation for every1 to
>> hear. e.g. Payal, i read your latest blog. it was wonderfully written!
>> this is surely a good conversation starter, and there's very little
>> chance that people will ignore me after that. at least not till the
>> end of that particular conversation.
>> of course, people sitting immediately next to me would be the simplest
>> to start chatting to, but those conversations may not reach the rest
>> of the group.
>> 6. this last 1 may not be very appealing to many, but it has worked
>> for me. if i want something and there's no1 around to call, i just get
>> up off the chair and start walking towards nowhere. this is almost
>> always likely for some1 to notice me and offer to help. smile.
>>
>> 7. i could also inform the main organiser/ host of the event, to
>> arrange for some1 to be with me during the program and accompany me
>> throughout. i think that often its not that people don't want to help.
>> they just avoid it because they don't know how to initiate/ interact
>> with the likes of us. in such cases, and from all the above points,
>> the main thing to take home is that for better for worse, we are the
>> ones who need to give them that slight nudge/ push, to engage/
>> interact  with us. sadly, people haven't reached that level of
>> sensibility yet, for them to not feel awkward around us. i in fact was
>> reading about this just this morning. don't remember where. that
>> children usually never find it difficult to come forward and initiate
>> an interaction with us. it is the adults. who start building these
>> walls as they become less sure of their own selves. and thereby, less
>> sure of the "others". in quotation marks. so as long as we're the
>> first to extend a hand, we can hope that we've done our bit and that
>> the ball is no longer in our court.
>>
>> Shireen.
>>
>> On 2/28/17, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>> While recounting her own experience from a professional gathering, She
>>> flags off a burning issue; why people remain indifferent towards blind
>>> people.
>>> This could set a tone for further deliberation. She felt alone 

[AI] Blog on Annual Event for Parasports Is Uniting West Bengal in Celebrating Its Disabled Athletes

2017-02-28 Thread Sruti disAbility Rights Centre
Dear friends,

Sharing with you a blog post written by me on Annual Sports organised
recently by Paschimbanga Rajya Pratibandhi Sammelani.

"West Bengal rarely gets to see leaders from CPI(M), Trinamool Congress,
and the BJP all together at the same place, and one does hope that such
camaraderie will bring in much-needed changes to the lives of disabled
people of West Bengal.
>From the implementation of the newly enacted Rights of Persons with
Disabilities Act to any existing policies for the disabled, the need of
political will to improve lives of disabled is important."

http://www.thebetterindia.com/88918/3000-participants-50-
events-celebrate-spirit-parasports/

Looking forward to your comments.

Regards

Shampa Sengupta

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Re: [AI] Today on the Sexuality and Disability blog

2017-02-28 Thread Payal Kapoor
all your points make sense Shireen, when in a situation you've
mentioned. this specific incident mentioned here was not conducive to
most of what you've suggested. yes, in other situations they could
definitely be adopted, but when in the situation  i've mentioned, not
many have the time or inclination to see much beyond themselves. or
maybe i was dealing with a particularly reticent group.
the dynamic changes when in a group. why, i am still to understand.
the getting up from the seat is something a lot of us do i think. my
main concern here is the absence of initiative to even try.
i get the absence of eye contact bit being a problem, but there are
definitely other ways to combat that i'm sure.

On 2/28/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
> since Avinash has invited a discussion on this, here are my 2 bits on
> a few possible, but not necessarily optimal, solutions: of course what
> Payal went through is very real, and these tips are not in any way, a
> counter to her experience. these are just a few pointers off the top
> of my head that may help some1 in a particular situation, , a lot of
> which u all may already be aware of.
> 1. if i know that a particular person is going to be in the same
> social gathering as myself, whether from work, friends, or family
> members, i'd ask them a day in advance, if they'd be ok to be with me
> during that gathering, and accompany me during meals, etc. if i can
> ask more than 1 person, nothing like it. i could even divide the time,
> spend it half with 1 accompanist, and the other half with the other.
> often when the accompanist realises that he/she was not the only
> option, they are more eager/ willing to accompany.
> 2. if i'm on the same table with a group of people, and if every1 is
> part of a single conversation, then i too will proactively participate
> in that conversation, even if i am not asked something directly. i'd
> of course hope that i say something remotely sensible/ interesting
> enough for people to take notice of me, and realise that here is also
> a person at the table, equally part of the group. its not always
> possible, but it is just 1, among many strategies to use when
> feasible.
> 3. sometimes, i can be the initiator of a conversation at the table.
> by making some general statement about the food, or the function,
> something mostly positive, to which other people may be likely to
> respond. e.g. this biryani is really awesome! or, has any1 tried the
> dessert yet?
> 4. if i know that a particular person is sitting somewhere near me,
> then i can call out to her and start off a conversation for every1 to
> hear. e.g. Payal, i read your latest blog. it was wonderfully written!
> this is surely a good conversation starter, and there's very little
> chance that people will ignore me after that. at least not till the
> end of that particular conversation.
> of course, people sitting immediately next to me would be the simplest
> to start chatting to, but those conversations may not reach the rest
> of the group.
> 6. this last 1 may not be very appealing to many, but it has worked
> for me. if i want something and there's no1 around to call, i just get
> up off the chair and start walking towards nowhere. this is almost
> always likely for some1 to notice me and offer to help. smile.
>
> 7. i could also inform the main organiser/ host of the event, to
> arrange for some1 to be with me during the program and accompany me
> throughout. i think that often its not that people don't want to help.
> they just avoid it because they don't know how to initiate/ interact
> with the likes of us. in such cases, and from all the above points,
> the main thing to take home is that for better for worse, we are the
> ones who need to give them that slight nudge/ push, to engage/
> interact  with us. sadly, people haven't reached that level of
> sensibility yet, for them to not feel awkward around us. i in fact was
> reading about this just this morning. don't remember where. that
> children usually never find it difficult to come forward and initiate
> an interaction with us. it is the adults. who start building these
> walls as they become less sure of their own selves. and thereby, less
> sure of the "others". in quotation marks. so as long as we're the
> first to extend a hand, we can hope that we've done our bit and that
> the ball is no longer in our court.
>
> Shireen.
>
> On 2/28/17, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> While recounting her own experience from a professional gathering, She
>> flags off a burning issue; why people remain indifferent towards blind
>> people.
>> This could set a tone for further deliberation. She felt alone when
>> nobody turned up to offer her assistance to have a dignified meal. She
>> felt unpleasant cause people talked at her not to her.  What are the
>> solutions we could offer in similar situations to us and our fellow
>> beings? we also go to attend marriages, parties, and clubs. Many
>> amongst  us probably skip such gatherings d

Re: [AI] Today on the Sexuality and Disability blog

2017-02-28 Thread Shireen Irani
since Avinash has invited a discussion on this, here are my 2 bits on
a few possible, but not necessarily optimal, solutions: of course what
Payal went through is very real, and these tips are not in any way, a
counter to her experience. these are just a few pointers off the top
of my head that may help some1 in a particular situation, , a lot of
which u all may already be aware of.
1. if i know that a particular person is going to be in the same
social gathering as myself, whether from work, friends, or family
members, i'd ask them a day in advance, if they'd be ok to be with me
during that gathering, and accompany me during meals, etc. if i can
ask more than 1 person, nothing like it. i could even divide the time,
spend it half with 1 accompanist, and the other half with the other.
often when the accompanist realises that he/she was not the only
option, they are more eager/ willing to accompany.
2. if i'm on the same table with a group of people, and if every1 is
part of a single conversation, then i too will proactively participate
in that conversation, even if i am not asked something directly. i'd
of course hope that i say something remotely sensible/ interesting
enough for people to take notice of me, and realise that here is also
a person at the table, equally part of the group. its not always
possible, but it is just 1, among many strategies to use when
feasible.
3. sometimes, i can be the initiator of a conversation at the table.
by making some general statement about the food, or the function,
something mostly positive, to which other people may be likely to
respond. e.g. this biryani is really awesome! or, has any1 tried the
dessert yet?
4. if i know that a particular person is sitting somewhere near me,
then i can call out to her and start off a conversation for every1 to
hear. e.g. Payal, i read your latest blog. it was wonderfully written!
this is surely a good conversation starter, and there's very little
chance that people will ignore me after that. at least not till the
end of that particular conversation.
of course, people sitting immediately next to me would be the simplest
to start chatting to, but those conversations may not reach the rest
of the group.
6. this last 1 may not be very appealing to many, but it has worked
for me. if i want something and there's no1 around to call, i just get
up off the chair and start walking towards nowhere. this is almost
always likely for some1 to notice me and offer to help. smile.

7. i could also inform the main organiser/ host of the event, to
arrange for some1 to be with me during the program and accompany me
throughout. i think that often its not that people don't want to help.
they just avoid it because they don't know how to initiate/ interact
with the likes of us. in such cases, and from all the above points,
the main thing to take home is that for better for worse, we are the
ones who need to give them that slight nudge/ push, to engage/
interact  with us. sadly, people haven't reached that level of
sensibility yet, for them to not feel awkward around us. i in fact was
reading about this just this morning. don't remember where. that
children usually never find it difficult to come forward and initiate
an interaction with us. it is the adults. who start building these
walls as they become less sure of their own selves. and thereby, less
sure of the "others". in quotation marks. so as long as we're the
first to extend a hand, we can hope that we've done our bit and that
the ball is no longer in our court.

Shireen.

On 2/28/17, avinash shahi  wrote:
> While recounting her own experience from a professional gathering, She
> flags off a burning issue; why people remain indifferent towards blind
> people.
> This could set a tone for further deliberation. She felt alone when
> nobody turned up to offer her assistance to have a dignified meal. She
> felt unpleasant cause people talked at her not to her.  What are the
> solutions we could offer in similar situations to us and our fellow
> beings? we also go to attend marriages, parties, and clubs. Many
> amongst  us probably skip such gatherings due to ensuing indignities
> awaiting them. This post provokes me to ponder  upon what could be
> prospective solutions: Is accompanying sighted to such gathering if
> not invited morally justified? or demanding right to have meal in
> dignified manner from the organisers is a way out? or in a conference
> or in a seminar; just striking a conversation with a stranger solely
> to get food is a smart strategy. I expect the Access Indians will take
> the conversation further. The URL is pasted below.
> http://blog.sexualityanddisability.org/2017/02/im-blind-not-invisible/
>
>
>
> On 2/28/17, Niharika Pandit  wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Greetings from Point of View!
>>
>> Today on the SexDis blog, we have published an essay 'I'm blind, not
>> invisible' by Payal Kapoor.
>> http://blog.sexualityanddisability.org/2017/02/im-blind-not-invisible/
>>
>> 'It is gr

Re: [AI] Today on the Sexuality and Disability blog

2017-02-28 Thread Manish Agrawal
Hi Niharika,
An interesting post. I was trying to comment on the post to add my experience 
but could not.
The comments section on your Website is inaccessible for me with firefox and 
both nvda and jaws.
It is very hard to get to the editable area with jaws and with both nvda and 
jaws, I am unable to read what I am typing as a comment or to edit it. I think 
I ended up posting and empty comment or one with junk characters.

I am not sure if this is just with my set up or if others have faced this as 
well.


Regards,
Manish
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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:10 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] Today on the Sexuality and Disability blog

Hello everyone,

Greetings from Point of View!

Today on the SexDis blog, we have published an essay 'I'm blind, not
invisible' by Payal Kapoor.
http://blog.sexualityanddisability.org/2017/02/im-blind-not-invisible/

'It is great for the non-disabled to talk about us, but not with us! How
then will the gap that has been created between us ever be bridged?'

Happy Reading!

Best,
Niharika Pandit
Point of View

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[AI] Korea Herald reports: History of guide dogs for the blind

2017-02-28 Thread avinash shahi
er plays with guide dogs during a break at Samsung Guide Dog School in
Yongin, Gyeonggi Province. (Samsung Guide Dog School)
The relationship between dogs and blind people dates back to ancient
times. But its modern history began after the World War I when a
German doctor trained them to help thousands of soldiers who lost
their vision.
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=2013083700
The world’s first training center was established in Potsdam, Germany,
in 1921 and then other cities in the country as people began to learn
about dogs’ ability to guide the blind. But the guide dog movement
expanded internationally through a wealthy American woman named
Dorothy Harrison Eustis.

She was already training dogs for the army, police and customs service
in Switzerland but became interested in dogs for the blind after she
heard about the successful venture in Potsdam. With her own experience
in training dogs and apparently with her fortune, she established The
Seeing Eye, the world’s first school dedicated to training guide dogs,
in the United States in 1929. The guide dog movement reached Britain
in 1930 and expanded quickly all over the country. Britain remains the
center of the guide dog industry today.



Trainer Hong A-reum orders Muroo, a guide dog candidate, to find a
ticket gate at Sunae Station in Bundang, Gyeonggi Province, Monday.
(Lee Sang-sub/The Korea Herald)



In 1973, training schools in Europe agreed to set up an international
body in Reading, England, to standardize guidelines for the training
of dogs and to teach blind people how to use them. The International
Guide Dog Federation plays a pivotal role in exchanging and promoting
good practice in the breeding and training of dogs as well as the
education of their owners. The organization currently has over 80
members from 36 countries.

Samsung Guide Dog School for the Blind is the only Korean training
center registered as an IGDF member since 1999.

Japan introduced its first guide dog in 1957. The first guide dog user
in Korea was Lim An-soo, a professor at Daegu University, who brought
a shepherd Sarah from the United States in 1972. There were a number
of cases of guide dogs adopted from overseas after Lim. But the guide
dog movement in Korea came later in 1993, when electronics giant
Samsung jumped into the animal welfare program and started to promote
public awareness of canine companionship.



Currently, there are about 10,000 guide dogs working in the United
States, 5,000 in the United Kingdom and 1,000 in Japan. Korea has 60
guide dogs, all trained by Samsung.

By Cho Chung-un (christ...@heraldcorp.com)

-- 
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU


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Re: [AI] Today on the Sexuality and Disability blog

2017-02-28 Thread avinash shahi
While recounting her own experience from a professional gathering, She
flags off a burning issue; why people remain indifferent towards blind
people.
This could set a tone for further deliberation. She felt alone when
nobody turned up to offer her assistance to have a dignified meal. She
felt unpleasant cause people talked at her not to her.  What are the
solutions we could offer in similar situations to us and our fellow
beings? we also go to attend marriages, parties, and clubs. Many
amongst  us probably skip such gatherings due to ensuing indignities
awaiting them. This post provokes me to ponder  upon what could be
prospective solutions: Is accompanying sighted to such gathering if
not invited morally justified? or demanding right to have meal in
dignified manner from the organisers is a way out? or in a conference
or in a seminar; just striking a conversation with a stranger solely
to get food is a smart strategy. I expect the Access Indians will take
the conversation further. The URL is pasted below.
http://blog.sexualityanddisability.org/2017/02/im-blind-not-invisible/



On 2/28/17, Niharika Pandit  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Greetings from Point of View!
>
> Today on the SexDis blog, we have published an essay 'I'm blind, not
> invisible' by Payal Kapoor.
> http://blog.sexualityanddisability.org/2017/02/im-blind-not-invisible/
>
> 'It is great for the non-disabled to talk about us, but not with us! How
> then will the gap that has been created between us ever be bridged?'
>
> Happy Reading!
>
> Best,
> Niharika Pandit
> Point of View
>
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[AI] Payal Kapoor writes a blog: I'm blind, not invisible

2017-02-28 Thread avinash shahi
While recounting her own experience from a professional gathering, She
flags off a burning issue; why people remain indifferent towards blind
people.
This could set a tone for further deliberation. She felt alone when
nobody turned up to offer her assistance to have a dignified meal. She
felt unpleasant cause people talked at her not to her.  What are the
solutions we could offer in similar situations to us and our fellow
beings? we also go to attend marriages, parties, and clubs. Many
amongst  us probably skip such gatherings due to ensuing indignities
awaiting them. This post provokes me to ponder  upon what could be
prospective solutions: Is accompanying sighted to such gathering if
not invited morally justified? or demanding right to have meal in
dignified manner from the organisers is a way out? or in a conference
or in a seminar; just striking a conversation with a stranger solely
to get food is a smart strategy. I expect the Access Indians will take
the conversation further. The URL is pasted below.
http://blog.sexualityanddisability.org/2017/02/im-blind-not-invisible/

-- 
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU


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[AI] Today on the Sexuality and Disability blog

2017-02-28 Thread Niharika Pandit
Hello everyone,

Greetings from Point of View!

Today on the SexDis blog, we have published an essay 'I'm blind, not
invisible' by Payal Kapoor.
http://blog.sexualityanddisability.org/2017/02/im-blind-not-invisible/

'It is great for the non-disabled to talk about us, but not with us! How
then will the gap that has been created between us ever be bridged?'

Happy Reading!

Best,
Niharika Pandit
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[AI] About print preview in MS excell, MS word

2017-02-28 Thread vedika phadke
Sir/Madam,

Has anyone find out any technique to print selected columns and rows from excel 
with page break preview. Can we check print preview with JAWS or with NVDA?

Please Reply!

your sincerely,

Vedika 

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Re: [AI] sharing from another list: blind woman breaks off marriage when asked to quit her music career.

2017-02-28 Thread avinash shahi
Though I don't understand Malayalam and Tamil, I listen her songs on
Youtube. She is simply melodious. I wonder why she and her family
chose to marry with someone who is unemployed, less educated and
doesn't suit her stature. Her decision to call off her marriage with
him is not less than a good riddance for her. Listen her live how she
stunts Shriya Ghoshal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOYHh4ZQLp8


On 2/27/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
> apologies if this is a cross-posting, but i don't think this was
> shared on this list.
> this is a bold move, and i hope that parents of disabled children
> learn a thing or 2 from it. there are so many cases where the families
> just want to get their children married, that the first person who
> comes along is accepted with gratitude without any time for
> background, or compatibility check.
> i hope that more women, in particular, are able to put their foot down
> and refuse the men forced upon them, if they find him unworthy.
> more power to us!
>
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