Re: [AI] Netflicks and audio description

[Timy Sebastian]

Hi deependra Sir,


Thanks for the quick reply.

Could you please try to add the AD description for some of the
regional languages movies such as, Malayalam, thamil, kannada,
thelugu, and so?

That will be useful for wide audiences sure.

Hope these suggestions will consider in the future versions.

Stay well,

With regards,

Timy.

On 8/4/18, Dipendra Manocha  wrote:
> Hello Sebastian
>
> We are working on several fronts:
>
> 1. home viewing of special distribution: n this mode either through XL
> Cinema or any video player or Audio player for distribution of audio track
> only: no headphone will be required to play the movie.
> 2. Home viewing on Netflix or amazon prime video: One AD is available there,
> Viewing will be only with AD through normal playback method of these online
> video libraries.
> 3. Inclusive viewing in movie halls: XL Cinema is essential for this and
> playback cannot be done without headphones here. It si by designa nd is
> required.
>
> Thanks
> Dipendra
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Timy Sebastian [mailto:timys...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 04 August 2018 16:07
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled. 
> Cc: Dipendra Manocha 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Netflicks and audio description
>
> Hi all,
>
> I also use  xl sinuma today and notice that, it was a wonderful experience
> for watching a movie with audio description.
>
> Watch showlay movie with audio description directly from the youtube.
>
>
> No doubt, Sukshom team done there part well we can say.
>
> the sad think is that, only two movies are available under movies section.
>
>  we xl sinuma users are expecting all regional language  movies in the
> future.
>
> The interesting thing is that, after muting the audio of the movie  as well,
>  we can listen the audio description without any problem.
> No doubt, that experience is excelllant.
>
> One suggestion is:,
>
> Without connecting the headphone also, we want to listen the audio
> description, if possible.
>
> Hope that facility will be available in the future versions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/30/18, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Myself and veena used the XL cinema app in the movie theatre  to watch
>> Sanju with audio description yesterday.
>> The experience was great. For the first time we felt as if we have
>> seen the complete movie. Generally we go to the movies only with
>> friends and relatives and keep bugging them to describe the non-verbal
>> parts of the film. Even then the experience is not as complete as
>> yesterday. I have even
>> gone to the extent of googling for the movie story earlier   since often
>> we
>> miss out on critical incidents in the movie while watching without
>> description.
>>
>> I think this app is the best solution for providing audio description.
>> There is no need to think about making changes to the movie theatres
>> which anyway does not seem feasible.
>> It will be great if more and more movies do the audio description on
>> their own.
>>
>> The app will need to be improved continuously. On iPhone 6s it worked
>> without any problem, it even detected the movie interval. On an iPhone
>> 7 the AD track stopped several times and had to be started again and
>> again.
>>
>> Great work done by Mr. Dipendra Manocha with the Saksham and XL cinema
>> team.
>> Kudos to Mr. Raj Kumar Hirani for providing the permission to launch
>> the audio description.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Prashant
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of Aruni Sharma
>> Sent: 27 July 2018 09:11
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled. 
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Netflicks and audio discription
>>
>> hello, XL cinema is providing unmatched entertainment to us and in my
>> view is much more comprehensive and useful than the media descriptions
>> we are getting in netflicks. I don't find Netflicks very useful apart
>> from the fact that it has got a very big number of movies and tv shows.
>> I rather find it very inconvenient at times because we cannot
>> exclusively listen to the action descriptions. The limited info that
>> is available, wherever there is any subtitle, because you either hear
>> everything, dialogues being repeated in the language of your choice
>> simultaneously or hear no descriptions at all.
>> In fact media description is quite different from audio description.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Dr. Aruni Sharma.
>> Associate Professor, Dept. of Political Science, JNPG College,
>> Lucknow, India.
>> twitter: www.twitter.com/arunisharma
>> facebook: www.facebook.com/arunisharma
>> Skype: arunisha...@outlook.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 July 2018 at 23:34, Dipendra Manocha 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> The reason for separate audio track in XL Cinema that the purpose  is
>>> to provide a solution for the movie hall. The movie Sholay was put
>>> there to let everyone try out the system 

Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

[Pranay Gadodia]

Prashant, your demonstration was very good and quite comprehensive. And
thanks to Radio Udaan for covering it. Very informative.
The URL of the sho is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXivnmlWiFQ

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Dipendra Manocha
Sent: 05 August 2018 08:54
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

I Prashant

Instead of link you pasted something else.

Thanks
Dipendra


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Prashant Ranjan Verma
Sent: 05 August 2018 08:14
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

Dear Pranay,
Radio Udaan recorded a demo of the TV and its features with me. It is at the
below link. 
Add profile of candidate, program mgt cost, increase mag salary, add
placements

thanks,
Prashant 

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Pranay Gadodia
Sent: 04 August 2018 19:37
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

Hi Prashant/All,
Thanks for sharing this. Its great news.I found a demonstration of this on
YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnv8raphv28. 

Did anyone else come across any other model of Sony Bravia or other brands
where the TV and also the DTH settop box menus become accessible?

Thanks,
Pranay.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Prashant Ranjan Verma
Sent: 15 June 2018 20:30
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

it is not a big deal. you can either press Mute button on Tata Sky or
checkout the program guide from the android section of the tv.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of sampath raj rao
Sent: 15 June 2018 11:02
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

Hi Sir, Great to hear...
But how do you differentiate the Talkback voice  when the TV programme is
running? Will the volume MUTE button mutes only the TV programme volume or
the talkback voice also gets muted?


On 6/15/18, gufran ahmed  wrote:
> Hello sir can you tell me the cost of the TV
>
> On Thu 14 Jun, 2018, 8:25 PM Prashant Ranjan Verma, 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I have been able to get a talking TV and more importantly get screen 
>> reader access to the list of channels and program guide of Tata Sky, 
>> one of the DTH service providers. This is how it became possible.
>>
>> 1. Purchased Sony Bravia Android TV. My TV model  number is Sony 
>> KD-49X7500E. I think other models in the Sony Bravia Android series 
>> should also work.
>>
>> 2. Activated Talkback on the TV. It required sighted assistance to go 
>> into the settings and accessibility option. After Talkback started, I 
>> have been able to use the TV menus and its Android OS independently 
>> with the remote control.
>>
>> 3. YouTube, Netflix and many other apps are pre-installed on the TV. 
>> I can search and play programs with the help of Talkback. This TV 
>> also has voice search function and it is very accurate. Amazon Prime 
>> video  app is not working with Talkback.
>>
>> 4. This TV has a feature which allows it to detect connected Tata Sky 
>> set top box. The Tata Sky can be operated with the TV remote, once 
>> setup there is no need to use the Tata Sky remote, you can do 
>> everything with the TV remote.
>>
>> 5. The TV has a pre-installed app called Program Guide. This app can 
>> be opened to see the Guide which lists the channels with current 
>> programs or one can also view list of programs by different genres.
>> Talkback works properly here. One can browse through the list of 
>> channels and programs and select them to view.
>>
>>
>>
>> Additionally now I have been able to connect my TV with Amazon Alexa. 
>> The Sony Bravia and Alexa support each other. Sony has a app on the 
>> TV and Alexa has the skill which need to be configured.
>>
>> Now I can just ask Alexa to Switch On the TV, Volume up/mute, ask 
>> Alexa to put a channel number on the TV. Even switching channel name 
>> is supported.
>> For example Alexa change channel to Times Now on TV. However, saying 
>> the name always does not work. This is probably also because there 
>> are so many similar channel names such as Colors, Colors HD, Colors 
>> HD plus etc. ,
>>
>>
>>
>> 

Re: [AI] inputs required on the effective maintenance of an I phone

[Abhisar Waghmare]

Try to be in a area with very good network coverage.
Less the network more the battery utilization.
Try to change location services to *use only while using the app* of apps like 
facebook etc. 
And have a powerbank with you as since ios  11.3 update  battery performance 
has drastically degraded. 

Best Regards-
Abhisar


> On 05-Aug-2018, at 07:47, Narean Navarasan  wrote:
> 
> Dear access indians/I phone users,
> 
> I've recently bought an I phone SE from Flip cart. When everything
> works well, I couldn't compromise on the battery getting even for
> short phone calls. Say for instance. I am getting call when the
> battery is 50% and speak for 8 minutes. When I read the taskbar, I
> could see that the battery has gone down to 45/44%.
> I'd always attend calls only after ensuring that the mobile data is
> turned off. I've tried changing the mobile network from 4g to 3g
> signal.
> The screen contrast has also been reduced to 0. Apart from these
> things, is there anything to be done to ensure the durability of the
> battery?
> 
> Kindly share your expertise/inputs in this regard.
> 
> Thanks
> Regards,
> Narean
> Mob: 9444881537
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

[Dipendra Manocha]

I Prashant

Instead of link you pasted something else.

Thanks
Dipendra


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Prashant Ranjan Verma
Sent: 05 August 2018 08:14
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

Dear Pranay,
Radio Udaan recorded a demo of the TV and its features with me. It is at the
below link. 
Add profile of candidate, program mgt cost, increase mag salary, add
placements

thanks,
Prashant 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Pranay Gadodia
Sent: 04 August 2018 19:37
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

Hi Prashant/All,
Thanks for sharing this. Its great news.I found a demonstration of this on
YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnv8raphv28. 

Did anyone else come across any other model of Sony Bravia or other brands
where the TV and also the DTH settop box menus become accessible?

Thanks,
Pranay.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Prashant Ranjan Verma
Sent: 15 June 2018 20:30
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

it is not a big deal. you can either press Mute button on Tata Sky or
checkout the program guide from the android section of the tv.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of sampath raj rao
Sent: 15 June 2018 11:02
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

Hi Sir, Great to hear...
But how do you differentiate the Talkback voice  when the TV programme is
running? Will the volume MUTE button mutes only the TV programme volume or
the talkback voice also gets muted?


On 6/15/18, gufran ahmed  wrote:
> Hello sir can you tell me the cost of the TV
>
> On Thu 14 Jun, 2018, 8:25 PM Prashant Ranjan Verma, 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I have been able to get a talking TV and more importantly get screen 
>> reader access to the list of channels and program guide of Tata Sky, 
>> one of the DTH service providers. This is how it became possible.
>>
>> 1. Purchased Sony Bravia Android TV. My TV model  number is Sony 
>> KD-49X7500E. I think other models in the Sony Bravia Android series 
>> should also work.
>>
>> 2. Activated Talkback on the TV. It required sighted assistance to go 
>> into the settings and accessibility option. After Talkback started, I 
>> have been able to use the TV menus and its Android OS independently 
>> with the remote control.
>>
>> 3. YouTube, Netflix and many other apps are pre-installed on the TV. 
>> I can search and play programs with the help of Talkback. This TV 
>> also has voice search function and it is very accurate. Amazon Prime 
>> video  app is not working with Talkback.
>>
>> 4. This TV has a feature which allows it to detect connected Tata Sky 
>> set top box. The Tata Sky can be operated with the TV remote, once 
>> setup there is no need to use the Tata Sky remote, you can do 
>> everything with the TV remote.
>>
>> 5. The TV has a pre-installed app called Program Guide. This app can 
>> be opened to see the Guide which lists the channels with current 
>> programs or one can also view list of programs by different genres.
>> Talkback works properly here. One can browse through the list of 
>> channels and programs and select them to view.
>>
>>
>>
>> Additionally now I have been able to connect my TV with Amazon Alexa. 
>> The Sony Bravia and Alexa support each other. Sony has a app on the 
>> TV and Alexa has the skill which need to be configured.
>>
>> Now I can just ask Alexa to Switch On the TV, Volume up/mute, ask 
>> Alexa to put a channel number on the TV. Even switching channel name 
>> is supported.
>> For example Alexa change channel to Times Now on TV. However, saying 
>> the name always does not work. This is probably also because there 
>> are so many similar channel names such as Colors, Colors HD, Colors 
>> HD plus etc. ,
>>
>>
>>
>> I wish we get talking set top boxes soon. but for the time being I 
>> have a working solution in my home.
>>
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Prashant Ranjan Verma
>>
>>
>>
>> Creating the best way to read and publish
>>
>> www.daisy.org 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] need the list of english braille contractions for english in brl or brf format

[Dipendra Manocha]

Hello Meharaj

All the English speaking  countries. Have shifted to UEB (Unified English
Braille) 

In India, Braille Council of India is working on analyzing its implications
on using UEB along with Indian language braille code. Thus, as of now old
code continues. Unfortunately, this code is not standardized. For example,
the standards document of Indian braille says that we would follow British
English braille. However, most braille presses print braille signs of
punctuation marks or mathematical symbols in literary text as  prescribed in
"English Braille American Edition" (EBEA).

We do not have soft copy of Indian braille code available anywhere. Thus at
this point for all practical purposes, you  should follow US English
literary braille guidelines available at:

http://www.brailleauthority.org/literary/literary.html

you can download and read brf file of this guideline from here. Do not
bother about the warning on this page about this guideline being abolished
since current guideline used in Braille books in US is UEB. However, UEB is
not yet adopted in India and there is not much chance of it being used for
coming few years. 

Good thing about using braille display is that digital text can be converted
to any English braille in few minutes. you just need to have right tables on
your device.

Happy braille reading

Thanks
Dipendra

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Of Shaik Meharaz
Sent: 03 August 2018 20:31
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] need the list of english braille contractions for english in
brl or brf format

hi friends, as mensioned in subject, i am in need of a document or the chart
of braille contractions for english in e format it takes time to get a hard
copy.
i have braille refreshable reader.
so if any one has any document or any solution, pleas share with me regards
meharaj 8985982535,.

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Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

[Prashant Ranjan Verma]

Dear Pranay,
Radio Udaan recorded a demo of the TV and its features with me. It is at the
below link. 
Add profile of candidate, program mgt cost, increase mag salary, add
placements

thanks,
Prashant 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Pranay Gadodia
Sent: 04 August 2018 19:37
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

Hi Prashant/All,
Thanks for sharing this. Its great news.I found a demonstration of this on
YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnv8raphv28. 

Did anyone else come across any other model of Sony Bravia or other brands
where the TV and also the DTH settop box menus become accessible?

Thanks,
Pranay.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Prashant Ranjan Verma
Sent: 15 June 2018 20:30
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

it is not a big deal. you can either press Mute button on Tata Sky or
checkout the program guide from the android section of the tv.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of sampath raj rao
Sent: 15 June 2018 11:02
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

Hi Sir, Great to hear...
But how do you differentiate the Talkback voice  when the TV programme is
running? Will the volume MUTE button mutes only the TV programme volume or
the talkback voice also gets muted?


On 6/15/18, gufran ahmed  wrote:
> Hello sir can you tell me the cost of the TV
>
> On Thu 14 Jun, 2018, 8:25 PM Prashant Ranjan Verma, 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I have been able to get a talking TV and more importantly get screen 
>> reader access to the list of channels and program guide of Tata Sky, 
>> one of the DTH service providers. This is how it became possible.
>>
>> 1. Purchased Sony Bravia Android TV. My TV model  number is Sony 
>> KD-49X7500E. I think other models in the Sony Bravia Android series 
>> should also work.
>>
>> 2. Activated Talkback on the TV. It required sighted assistance to go 
>> into the settings and accessibility option. After Talkback started, I 
>> have been able to use the TV menus and its Android OS independently 
>> with the remote control.
>>
>> 3. YouTube, Netflix and many other apps are pre-installed on the TV. 
>> I can search and play programs with the help of Talkback. This TV 
>> also has voice search function and it is very accurate. Amazon Prime 
>> video  app is not working with Talkback.
>>
>> 4. This TV has a feature which allows it to detect connected Tata Sky 
>> set top box. The Tata Sky can be operated with the TV remote, once 
>> setup there is no need to use the Tata Sky remote, you can do 
>> everything with the TV remote.
>>
>> 5. The TV has a pre-installed app called Program Guide. This app can 
>> be opened to see the Guide which lists the channels with current 
>> programs or one can also view list of programs by different genres.
>> Talkback works properly here. One can browse through the list of 
>> channels and programs and select them to view.
>>
>>
>>
>> Additionally now I have been able to connect my TV with Amazon Alexa. 
>> The Sony Bravia and Alexa support each other. Sony has a app on the 
>> TV and Alexa has the skill which need to be configured.
>>
>> Now I can just ask Alexa to Switch On the TV, Volume up/mute, ask 
>> Alexa to put a channel number on the TV. Even switching channel name 
>> is supported.
>> For example Alexa change channel to Times Now on TV. However, saying 
>> the name always does not work. This is probably also because there 
>> are so many similar channel names such as Colors, Colors HD, Colors 
>> HD plus etc. ,
>>
>>
>>
>> I wish we get talking set top boxes soon. but for the time being I 
>> have a working solution in my home.
>>
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Prashant Ranjan Verma
>>
>>
>>
>> Creating the best way to read and publish
>>
>> www.daisy.org 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[AI] inputs required on the effective maintenance of an I phone

[Narean Navarasan]

Dear access indians/I phone users,

I've recently bought an I phone SE from Flip cart. When everything
works well, I couldn't compromise on the battery getting even for
short phone calls. Say for instance. I am getting call when the
battery is 50% and speak for 8 minutes. When I read the taskbar, I
could see that the battery has gone down to 45/44%.
I'd always attend calls only after ensuring that the mobile data is
turned off. I've tried changing the mobile network from 4g to 3g
signal.
The screen contrast has also been reduced to 0. Apart from these
things, is there anything to be done to ensure the durability of the
battery?

Kindly share your expertise/inputs in this regard.

Thanks
Regards,
Narean
Mob: 9444881537




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Re: [AI] childish

[Amar Jain]

Hi Vatsal,

What you have done is definitely very good. But being elder to you, the only 
sincere advice I would give you to take calculated risks and adopt strategies 
to mitigate risks, rather than jumping the gun. This habit will prove to be 
useful in the professional and personal life at a later stage.

Since you are here now, get in touch with members from your city and try 
learning from them.

Do very well in life.

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

> On 05-Aug-2018, at 2:14 AM, shankar shan  wrote:
> 
> Inspired!, keep exploring.
> do not worry about the people and the struggles
> 
>> On 8/3/18, Subham Arora  wrote:
>> True hero
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 03-Aug-2018, at 17:49, George Abraham  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very insightful! Thanks for sharing!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Vatsal Shah
>>> Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 4:54 PM
>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.'
>>> Subject: [AI] childish
>>> 
>>> Hi friends, I  am vatsal shah from baroda, gujrat.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Want to share worst experience of my life.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I  have lost my eyesight due to viral fever.this incident happened when I
>>> came in tenth standard in year 1998.i  became national champion in roller
>>> speed skating with three gold medals in seventh standard.wanted to become
>>> engineer and go to u.s.a  for masters.had this dream since third
>>> standard.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I  use to collect money which my grandfather use to give me on my
>>> birthday
>>> since childhood.collected quite big amount.after losing eyesight, my
>>> parents
>>> never allowed me to go out on my own.i  have not learned independent
>>> mobility like other blind or visually impaired friends.i  completed
>>> masters.went to amdavad blind school in vastrapur area.even after
>>> returning,
>>> I  did not master independent mobility.i  became very angry.my friends
>>> also
>>> remarked that I  am not courageous.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> four years back, I  went tomumbai alone taking cane or my walking
>>> stick.my
>>> parents were shocked and surprised.i  had not informed anybody at
>>> home.one
>>> Sunday afternoon, when all three family members were sleeping, I  left
>>> house
>>> without informing anybody.hired rickshaw and went to railway
>>> station.boarded
>>> train for Mumbai after buying ticket.i  have never travelled alone by
>>> train
>>> before.my plan was just to reach Mumbai station and then return to
>>> baroda.i
>>> told people sitting around me that I  had left home without informing
>>> anybody.few people had mobile phone with them.they insisted that I
>>> should
>>> phone my parents and inform them as they all must be worrying and
>>> searching.so I  phoned them and informed them.they were shocked but now
>>> relieved.they must have phoned my aunt or cousins staying in Mumbai.when
>>> I
>>> reached Mumbai, before train stopped, I  could hear their voice.they had
>>> come to station to receive me.i  wanted to return to baroda but they took
>>> me
>>> home.after couple of days, they came with me to baroda to drop me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If I  had not taken daring to venture out alone, I  would never have
>>> learned
>>> travelling alone in life.also traveling by train.two years back, I  went
>>> to
>>> amdavad, gandhinagar and anand alone by bus.realised that there are three
>>> types of bus: local, inter city and Volvo.i  returned home safely.i
>>> myself
>>> bought ticket at counter.all this I  would not have come to know if I
>>> had
>>> not taken daring and travel alone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My family members are now confident of my traveling alone which they were
>>> not earlier.i never used money earlies as I  was not able to identify
>>> currency notes.i  also do shopping and sometimes go out on my own.also go
>>> to
>>> work place sometimes on my own.now I  have gained enough confidence and
>>> experience.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nothing is impossible.i  even use laptop and mobile phone with talking
>>> software.read newspaper in laptop.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves

[Amar Jain]

Great Mahesh.

So far as these suggestions are concerned, I do not see it happening soon. It 
was literally the pressure which made them to set the basics right at least. 
And it took years to get them to do even this much.

In cities like Mumbai, you have other apps for grosseries and shopping, so the 
limited use here at least is to just pay the small merchants, who mostly use 
Paytm because of it being an early mover in this space. Having said this, we 
continue to reach out to developers for getting it done. But their management 
has never even responded once. So you can understand.

I can recommend each one of you to Tweet to Mr. Vijay Shekhar Sharma, and try 
convincing their investors like Soft Bank, which has a thick skin in the game.

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

> On 04-Aug-2018, at 11:31 PM, Mahesh S. Panicker  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Amar,
> Thanks for this, didn't have the update yesterday though the device is
> set to auto-update. Got it finally, and the top row buttons have
> become functional again.
> However, there still are issues. The navigation control has a few
> unlabelled controls as you go down. Starting from 'deals corner'.
> Likewise, the right top button on the home screen, that takes to
> offers, again is unlabelled. Once an item is added to the shopping
> bag, there are a number of buttons that are unlabelled if the bag is
> opened. These include buttons controlling the quantity of a particular
> item and the option to remove an item from the bag.
> As for the mall section, the general store section in particular needs
> major improvement, hopefully Paytm in fact would have a serious look
> at the mall section of the app from an accessibility point of view.
> And probably, besides improving the main Paytm app on that front, they
> would also pay more attention to making the Paytm Mall app also more
> accessible.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>> On 8/4/18, Amar Jain  wrote:
>> Hi Sir,
>> 
>> Tried calling. You can reach me on 9892622230.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Amar Jain
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 04-Aug-2018, at 5:43 PM, srinivas bangalore_11
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Amar Jain,
>>> 
>>> Can I have your contact details to discuss about the accessibility
>>> challenges with PayTM app off line?
>>> 
>>> You can reach me on 9590872930 or srinivas@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> With best regards,
>>> Srinivas  V manyam
>>> 
 On 8/4/18, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
 After applying today's update, the accessibility seems to have improved.
 Most of the times, the updates are so frequent, they are released
 everyday!
 I wrote my previous mail after updated it yesterday, but I noticed a new
 update was pending today. I'm now confirming that this app has become
 accessible now. For how long? Noone knows!
 - Original Message -
 From: "Amar Jain" 
 To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled." 
 Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves
 
 
> Update the app first, and then let’s discuss. Bunch of people have
> noticed
> the improvements, so it cannot be different for you.
> 
> Regards,
> Amar Jain
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 04-Aug-2018, at 12:34 AM, Mahesh S. Panicker
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Best
> 
> 
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Re: [AI] childish

[shankar shan]

Inspired!, keep exploring.
do not worry about the people and the struggles

On 8/3/18, Subham Arora  wrote:
> True hero
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 03-Aug-2018, at 17:49, George Abraham  wrote:
>>
>> Very insightful! Thanks for sharing!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Vatsal Shah
>> Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 4:54 PM
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'
>> Subject: [AI] childish
>>
>> Hi friends, I  am vatsal shah from baroda, gujrat.
>>
>>
>>
>> Want to share worst experience of my life.
>>
>>
>>
>> I  have lost my eyesight due to viral fever.this incident happened when I
>> came in tenth standard in year 1998.i  became national champion in roller
>> speed skating with three gold medals in seventh standard.wanted to become
>> engineer and go to u.s.a  for masters.had this dream since third
>> standard.
>>
>>
>>
>> I  use to collect money which my grandfather use to give me on my
>> birthday
>> since childhood.collected quite big amount.after losing eyesight, my
>> parents
>> never allowed me to go out on my own.i  have not learned independent
>> mobility like other blind or visually impaired friends.i  completed
>> masters.went to amdavad blind school in vastrapur area.even after
>> returning,
>> I  did not master independent mobility.i  became very angry.my friends
>> also
>> remarked that I  am not courageous.
>>
>>
>>
>> four years back, I  went tomumbai alone taking cane or my walking
>> stick.my
>> parents were shocked and surprised.i  had not informed anybody at
>> home.one
>> Sunday afternoon, when all three family members were sleeping, I  left
>> house
>> without informing anybody.hired rickshaw and went to railway
>> station.boarded
>> train for Mumbai after buying ticket.i  have never travelled alone by
>> train
>> before.my plan was just to reach Mumbai station and then return to
>> baroda.i
>> told people sitting around me that I  had left home without informing
>> anybody.few people had mobile phone with them.they insisted that I
>> should
>> phone my parents and inform them as they all must be worrying and
>> searching.so I  phoned them and informed them.they were shocked but now
>> relieved.they must have phoned my aunt or cousins staying in Mumbai.when
>> I
>> reached Mumbai, before train stopped, I  could hear their voice.they had
>> come to station to receive me.i  wanted to return to baroda but they took
>> me
>> home.after couple of days, they came with me to baroda to drop me.
>>
>>
>>
>> If I  had not taken daring to venture out alone, I  would never have
>> learned
>> travelling alone in life.also traveling by train.two years back, I  went
>> to
>> amdavad, gandhinagar and anand alone by bus.realised that there are three
>> types of bus: local, inter city and Volvo.i  returned home safely.i
>> myself
>> bought ticket at counter.all this I  would not have come to know if I
>> had
>> not taken daring and travel alone.
>>
>>
>>
>> My family members are now confident of my traveling alone which they were
>> not earlier.i never used money earlies as I  was not able to identify
>> currency notes.i  also do shopping and sometimes go out on my own.also go
>> to
>> work place sometimes on my own.now I  have gained enough confidence and
>> experience.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nothing is impossible.i  even use laptop and mobile phone with talking
>> software.read newspaper in laptop.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves

[Mahesh S. Panicker]

Hi Amar,
Thanks for this, didn't have the update yesterday though the device is
set to auto-update. Got it finally, and the top row buttons have
become functional again.
However, there still are issues. The navigation control has a few
unlabelled controls as you go down. Starting from 'deals corner'.
Likewise, the right top button on the home screen, that takes to
offers, again is unlabelled. Once an item is added to the shopping
bag, there are a number of buttons that are unlabelled if the bag is
opened. These include buttons controlling the quantity of a particular
item and the option to remove an item from the bag.
As for the mall section, the general store section in particular needs
major improvement, hopefully Paytm in fact would have a serious look
at the mall section of the app from an accessibility point of view.
And probably, besides improving the main Paytm app on that front, they
would also pay more attention to making the Paytm Mall app also more
accessible.

Regards,

On 8/4/18, Amar Jain  wrote:
> Hi Sir,
>
> Tried calling. You can reach me on 9892622230.
>
> Regards,
> Amar Jain
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 04-Aug-2018, at 5:43 PM, srinivas bangalore_11
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Amar Jain,
>>
>> Can I have your contact details to discuss about the accessibility
>> challenges with PayTM app off line?
>>
>> You can reach me on 9590872930 or srinivas@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Srinivas  V manyam
>>
>>> On 8/4/18, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>>> After applying today's update, the accessibility seems to have improved.
>>> Most of the times, the updates are so frequent, they are released
>>> everyday!
>>> I wrote my previous mail after updated it yesterday, but I noticed a new
>>> update was pending today. I'm now confirming that this app has become
>>> accessible now. For how long? Noone knows!
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Amar Jain" 
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled." 
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 12:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves
>>>
>>>
 Update the app first, and then let’s discuss. Bunch of people have
 noticed
 the improvements, so it cannot be different for you.

 Regards,
 Amar Jain

 Sent from my iPhone

> On 04-Aug-2018, at 12:34 AM, Mahesh S. Panicker
>  wrote:
>
> Best





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Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

[Pranay Gadodia]

Hi Prashant/All,
Thanks for sharing this. Its great news.I found a demonstration of this on
YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnv8raphv28. 

Did anyone else come across any other model of Sony Bravia or other brands
where the TV and also the DTH settop box menus become accessible?

Thanks,
Pranay.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Prashant Ranjan Verma
Sent: 15 June 2018 20:30
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

it is not a big deal. you can either press Mute button on Tata Sky or
checkout the program guide from the android section of the tv.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of sampath raj rao
Sent: 15 June 2018 11:02
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

Hi Sir, Great to hear...
But how do you differentiate the Talkback voice  when the TV programme is
running? Will the volume MUTE button mutes only the TV programme volume or
the talkback voice also gets muted?


On 6/15/18, gufran ahmed  wrote:
> Hello sir can you tell me the cost of the TV
>
> On Thu 14 Jun, 2018, 8:25 PM Prashant Ranjan Verma, 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I have been able to get a talking TV and more importantly get screen 
>> reader access to the list of channels and program guide of Tata Sky, 
>> one of the DTH service providers. This is how it became possible.
>>
>> 1. Purchased Sony Bravia Android TV. My TV model  number is Sony 
>> KD-49X7500E. I think other models in the Sony Bravia Android series 
>> should also work.
>>
>> 2. Activated Talkback on the TV. It required sighted assistance to go 
>> into the settings and accessibility option. After Talkback started, I 
>> have been able to use the TV menus and its Android OS independently 
>> with the remote control.
>>
>> 3. YouTube, Netflix and many other apps are pre-installed on the TV. 
>> I can search and play programs with the help of Talkback. This TV 
>> also has voice search function and it is very accurate. Amazon Prime 
>> video  app is not working with Talkback.
>>
>> 4. This TV has a feature which allows it to detect connected Tata Sky 
>> set top box. The Tata Sky can be operated with the TV remote, once 
>> setup there is no need to use the Tata Sky remote, you can do 
>> everything with the TV remote.
>>
>> 5. The TV has a pre-installed app called Program Guide. This app can 
>> be opened to see the Guide which lists the channels with current 
>> programs or one can also view list of programs by different genres.
>> Talkback works properly here. One can browse through the list of 
>> channels and programs and select them to view.
>>
>>
>>
>> Additionally now I have been able to connect my TV with Amazon Alexa. 
>> The Sony Bravia and Alexa support each other. Sony has a app on the 
>> TV and Alexa has the skill which need to be configured.
>>
>> Now I can just ask Alexa to Switch On the TV, Volume up/mute, ask 
>> Alexa to put a channel number on the TV. Even switching channel name 
>> is supported.
>> For example Alexa change channel to Times Now on TV. However, saying 
>> the name always does not work. This is probably also because there 
>> are so many similar channel names such as Colors, Colors HD, Colors 
>> HD plus etc. ,
>>
>>
>>
>> I wish we get talking set top boxes soon. but for the time being I 
>> have a working solution in my home.
>>
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Prashant Ranjan Verma
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves

[Amar Jain]

Hi Sir,

Tried calling. You can reach me on 9892622230.

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

> On 04-Aug-2018, at 5:43 PM, srinivas bangalore_11 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Amar Jain,
> 
> Can I have your contact details to discuss about the accessibility
> challenges with PayTM app off line?
> 
> You can reach me on 9590872930 or srinivas@gmail.com
> 
> 
> With best regards,
> Srinivas  V manyam
> 
>> On 8/4/18, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>> After applying today's update, the accessibility seems to have improved.
>> Most of the times, the updates are so frequent, they are released everyday!
>> I wrote my previous mail after updated it yesterday, but I noticed a new
>> update was pending today. I'm now confirming that this app has become
>> accessible now. For how long? Noone knows!
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Amar Jain" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled." 
>> Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 12:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves
>> 
>> 
>>> Update the app first, and then let’s discuss. Bunch of people have noticed
>>> the improvements, so it cannot be different for you.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Amar Jain
>>> 
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Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves

[Jeegar Pithwa]

in recent update there is issue in navigation drawer items are not well 
labelled while using PaytmJeegar pithava

Cell 9924796432


On 4 August 2018 3:39:39 p.m. "Vikas Kapoor"  wrote:


After applying today's update, the accessibility seems to have improved.
Most of the times, the updates are so frequent, they are released everyday!
I wrote my previous mail after updated it yesterday, but I noticed a new
update was pending today. I'm now confirming that this app has become
accessible now. For how long? Noone knows!
- Original Message -
From: "Amar Jain" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled." 
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves



Update the app first, and then let’s discuss. Bunch of people have noticed
the improvements, so it cannot be different for you.

Regards,
Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves

[srinivas bangalore_11]

Hi Amar Jain,

Can I have your contact details to discuss about the accessibility
challenges with PayTM app off line?

You can reach me on 9590872930 or srinivas@gmail.com


With best regards,
Srinivas  V manyam

On 8/4/18, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
> After applying today's update, the accessibility seems to have improved.
> Most of the times, the updates are so frequent, they are released everyday!
> I wrote my previous mail after updated it yesterday, but I noticed a new
> update was pending today. I'm now confirming that this app has become
> accessible now. For how long? Noone knows!
> - Original Message -
> From: "Amar Jain" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled." 
> Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 12:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves
>
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>> the improvements, so it cannot be different for you.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Amar Jain
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Re: [AI] Netflicks and audio description

[Timy Sebastian]

Hi all,

I also use  xl sinuma today and notice that, it was a wonderful
experience for watching a movie with audio description.

Watch showlay movie with audio description directly from the youtube.


No doubt, Sukshom team done there part well we can say.

the sad think is that, only two movies are available under movies section.

 we xl sinuma users are expecting all regional language  movies in the future.

The interesting thing is that, after muting the audio of the movie  as
well,  we can listen the audio description without any problem.
No doubt, that experience is excelllant.

One suggestion is:,

Without connecting the headphone also, we want to listen the audio
description, if possible.

Hope that facility will be available in the future versions.






On 7/30/18, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
> Hi all,
> Myself and veena used the XL cinema app in the movie theatre  to watch Sanju
> with audio description yesterday.
> The experience was great. For the first time we felt as if we have seen the
> complete movie. Generally we go to the movies only with friends and
> relatives and keep bugging them to describe the non-verbal parts of the
> film. Even then the experience is not as complete as yesterday. I have even
> gone to the extent of googling for the movie story earlier   since often we
> miss out on critical incidents in the movie while watching without
> description.
>
> I think this app is the best solution for providing audio description. There
> is no need to think about making changes to the movie theatres which anyway
> does not seem feasible.
> It will be great if more and more movies do the audio description on their
> own.
>
> The app will need to be improved continuously. On iPhone 6s it worked
> without any problem, it even detected the movie interval. On an iPhone 7 the
> AD track stopped several times and had to be started again and again.
>
> Great work done by Mr. Dipendra Manocha with the Saksham and XL cinema team.
> Kudos to Mr. Raj Kumar Hirani for providing the permission to launch the
> audio description.
>
> thanks,
> Prashant
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Aruni Sharma
> Sent: 27 July 2018 09:11
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Netflicks and audio discription
>
> hello, XL cinema is providing unmatched entertainment to us and in my view
> is much more comprehensive and useful than the media descriptions we are
> getting in netflicks. I don't find Netflicks very useful apart from the fact
> that it has got a very big number of movies and tv shows.
> I rather find it very inconvenient at times because we cannot exclusively
> listen to the action descriptions. The limited info that is available,
> wherever there is any subtitle, because you either hear everything,
> dialogues being repeated in the language of your choice simultaneously or
> hear no descriptions at all.
> In fact media description is quite different from audio description.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Dr. Aruni Sharma.
> Associate Professor, Dept. of Political Science, JNPG College, Lucknow,
> India.
> twitter: www.twitter.com/arunisharma
> facebook: www.facebook.com/arunisharma
> Skype: arunisha...@outlook.com
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>
>
> On 26 July 2018 at 23:34, Dipendra Manocha  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> The reason for separate audio track in XL Cinema that the purpose  is
>> to provide a solution for the movie hall. The movie Sholay was put
>> there to let everyone try out the system before you head to the movie
>> theater. Else, the there is not reason to play movie Sholay from
>> YouTube and AD from XL Cinema.
>>
>> The key here is The very innovative  solution to be able to provide
>> audio description while the movie is in movie hall.
>>
>> Well, the reason for most production houses not doing audio
>> description is that there is a huge doubt in their minds that afterall
>> is it really required by us? Because the numbers do not really show
>> that there is much interest in it. May be it is too early days for
>> reaching out to any conclusions on it right now.
>>
>> Other day I received comment about XL Cinema approach o audio
>> description and heard that the Cinema halls solution deployed in US is not
>> reliable.
>> Not man persons with blindness go to every theater and wen one
>> actually goes in the staff generally is caught unaware on how the
>> system is to be operated. The app based solution seem to be a much
>> better  approach in such circumstance.
>>
>> however, as I said Cinema world is very keenly watching the response
>> on the movie Sanju. I am afraid, the results till now are very
>> discouraging and we are going to have very tough time convincing same
>> or any other production house to invest their time just for handful
>> persons.
>>
>> Thanks
>> dipendra
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia 

Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves

[Vikas Kapoor]

After applying today's update, the accessibility seems to have improved. 
Most of the times, the updates are so frequent, they are released everyday! 
I wrote my previous mail after updated it yesterday, but I noticed a new 
update was pending today. I'm now confirming that this app has become 
accessible now. For how long? Noone knows!
- Original Message - 
From: "Amar Jain" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves


Update the app first, and then let’s discuss. Bunch of people have noticed 
the improvements, so it cannot be different for you.


Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves

[Vikas Kapoor]

After applying today's update, the accessibility seems to have improved.
Most of the times, the updates are so frequent, they are released everyday!
I wrote my previous mail after updated it yesterday, but I noticed a new
update was pending today. I'm now confirming that this app has become
accessible now. For how long? Noone knows!
- Original Message - 
From: "Amar Jain" 

To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled." 
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves



Update the app first, and then let’s discuss. Bunch of people have noticed
the improvements, so it cannot be different for you.

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves

[Vikas Kapoor]

I completely agree to the points you've made George, that is why I'm always 
apprehensive to apply updates to most of the apps. However, at some point or 
the other, updates become necessary.
- Original Message - 
From: "George Abraham" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" 

Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves


The same happens on the iOS platform too! PayTM at one time was easy to 
use,
but now the accessibility has been highly compromised. I have begun to 
think

that most applications that are accessible becomes accessible by accident
and not by design. Look at PayTM, IRCTC, Union Bank and the examples goes
on. Most app designer do not perhaps know about accessibility or they do 
not

simply care. I might have begun sounding a little negative, but the way
things are proceeding, I may not be far away from the truth.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Mahesh S. Panicker
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 12:35 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves

Not sure about Paytm improving exactly.
After the TalkBack 5 update, the Paytm homepage accessibility for the top
row button had become disfunctional. Many TalkBack users tried to take it 
up

with Paytm without success, and even Victor Tsran from the Google
Accessibility team contacted them but there was no change whatsoever. Even
now, the buttons, pay, cashback, add money, passbook, they don't work on 
the

home page. Whatever button you tap, all the buttons are read together by
TalkBack. And it is the passbook that would open wherever you tap on that
row.
These buttons are working properly on the bank page though.
Will if things get better there, it is a highly used app...
Best,

On 8/3/18, Vineet Kumar  wrote:

Hey Amar


now a couple of friends in paytm who could help please ping me offline
will share details

Sent from my iPhone


On 03-Aug-2018, at 12:22 PM, Amar Jain  wrote:

Dear all,

Android version of Paytm has improved in terms of accessibility. IOS
has not though.m

Please use it and share feedback, I cannot commit anything for this
company, but would do my best to push them.

Regards,
Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves

[Vikas Kapoor]

My app  is updated, I confirm that most of the problems that were there are 
the same, no improvement, though there are certain workarounds to perform 
some baisic tasks.
- Original Message - 
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves


Update the app first, and then let’s discuss. Bunch of people have noticed 
the improvements, so it cannot be different for you.


Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves

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Waiting for the accessible version on iOS.




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Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves

[Surya Prakash Sharma]

Hi,
Please update the app and enjoy the accessible version of paytm.

On August 4, 2018 12:08:43 PM Amar Jain  wrote:

Agree with your thoughts. I am regularly pushing them for IOS too. Mostly 
it is because brands do not care about it.


Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone


On 04-Aug-2018, at 11:09 AM, George Abraham  wrote:

The same happens on the iOS platform too! PayTM at one time was easy to use,
but now the accessibility has been highly compromised. I have begun to think
that most applications that are accessible becomes accessible by accident
and not by design. Look at PayTM, IRCTC, Union Bank and the examples goes
on. Most app designer do not perhaps know about accessibility or they do not
simply care. I might have begun sounding a little negative, but the way
things are proceeding, I may not be far away from the truth.

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Of Mahesh S. Panicker
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 12:35 AM
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the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves

Not sure about Paytm improving exactly.
After the TalkBack 5 update, the Paytm homepage accessibility for the top
row button had become disfunctional. Many TalkBack users tried to take it up
with Paytm without success, and even Victor Tsran from the Google
Accessibility team contacted them but there was no change whatsoever. Even
now, the buttons, pay, cashback, add money, passbook, they don't work on the
home page. Whatever button you tap, all the buttons are read together by
TalkBack. And it is the passbook that would open wherever you tap on that
row.
These buttons are working properly on the bank page though.
Will if things get better there, it is a highly used app...
Best,


On 8/3/18, Vineet Kumar  wrote:
Hey Amar


now a couple of friends in paytm who could help please ping me offline
will share details

Sent from my iPhone


On 03-Aug-2018, at 12:22 PM, Amar Jain  wrote:

Dear all,

Android version of Paytm has improved in terms of accessibility. IOS
has not though.m

Please use it and share feedback, I cannot commit anything for this
company, but would do my best to push them.

Regards,
Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves

[Amar Jain]

Agree with your thoughts. I am regularly pushing them for IOS too. Mostly it is 
because brands do not care about it.

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

> On 04-Aug-2018, at 11:09 AM, George Abraham  wrote:
> 
> The same happens on the iOS platform too! PayTM at one time was easy to use,
> but now the accessibility has been highly compromised. I have begun to think
> that most applications that are accessible becomes accessible by accident
> and not by design. Look at PayTM, IRCTC, Union Bank and the examples goes
> on. Most app designer do not perhaps know about accessibility or they do not
> simply care. I might have begun sounding a little negative, but the way
> things are proceeding, I may not be far away from the truth.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Mahesh S. Panicker
> Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 12:35 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves
> 
> Not sure about Paytm improving exactly.
> After the TalkBack 5 update, the Paytm homepage accessibility for the top
> row button had become disfunctional. Many TalkBack users tried to take it up
> with Paytm without success, and even Victor Tsran from the Google
> Accessibility team contacted them but there was no change whatsoever. Even
> now, the buttons, pay, cashback, add money, passbook, they don't work on the
> home page. Whatever button you tap, all the buttons are read together by
> TalkBack. And it is the passbook that would open wherever you tap on that
> row.
> These buttons are working properly on the bank page though.
> Will if things get better there, it is a highly used app...
> Best,
> 
>> On 8/3/18, Vineet Kumar  wrote:
>> Hey Amar
>> 
>> 
>> now a couple of friends in paytm who could help please ping me offline 
>> will share details
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 03-Aug-2018, at 12:22 PM, Amar Jain  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> Android version of Paytm has improved in terms of accessibility. IOS 
>>> has not though.m
>>> 
>>> Please use it and share feedback, I cannot commit anything for this 
>>> company, but would do my best to push them.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Amar Jain
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves

[Akash Kakkar]

The accessibility of the top controls such as pay, passbook, add money
etc has been improved in the last update which was released yesterday.

On 8/4/18, George Abraham  wrote:
> The same happens on the iOS platform too! PayTM at one time was easy to
> use,
> but now the accessibility has been highly compromised. I have begun to
> think
> that most applications that are accessible becomes accessible by accident
> and not by design. Look at PayTM, IRCTC, Union Bank and the examples goes
> on. Most app designer do not perhaps know about accessibility or they do
> not
> simply care. I might have begun sounding a little negative, but the way
> things are proceeding, I may not be far away from the truth.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Mahesh S. Panicker
> Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 12:35 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm Android improves
>
> Not sure about Paytm improving exactly.
> After the TalkBack 5 update, the Paytm homepage accessibility for the top
> row button had become disfunctional. Many TalkBack users tried to take it
> up
> with Paytm without success, and even Victor Tsran from the Google
> Accessibility team contacted them but there was no change whatsoever. Even
> now, the buttons, pay, cashback, add money, passbook, they don't work on
> the
> home page. Whatever button you tap, all the buttons are read together by
> TalkBack. And it is the passbook that would open wherever you tap on that
> row.
> These buttons are working properly on the bank page though.
> Will if things get better there, it is a highly used app...
> Best,
>
> On 8/3/18, Vineet Kumar  wrote:
>> Hey Amar
>>
>>
>> now a couple of friends in paytm who could help please ping me offline
>> will share details
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 03-Aug-2018, at 12:22 PM, Amar Jain  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Android version of Paytm has improved in terms of accessibility. IOS
>>> has not though.m
>>>
>>> Please use it and share feedback, I cannot commit anything for this
>>> company, but would do my best to push them.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Amar Jain
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
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