Re: [AI] Disclosure of disability in a job application: your personal views

2018-09-14 Thread Kartik Sawhney
Hi Rahul,

All of these points make complete sense. As I said before, there is no
absolute correct answer here, and it'll be unfair to generalize. One
needs to evaluate the pros and cons given a particular industry,
company or opportunity. Just as how your experiences are completely
different from Mine or Pranav's, there could be other factors that are
not relevant to you or me, but might play an important role in this
decision for someone else. I have been at a bunch of disclosure talks
and webinars during university, and I like the way many organizations
approach this discussion in the US. They break this down into "what",
"when", "how" and "why" of disability disclosure (I probably messed up
the order), and provide guidance on each of them. It is then up to the
person to evaluate this given their unique circumstances.

Best,

On 9/14/18, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
> Hi Kartik and all,
>
> Kartik, I think we are in substantial agreement here. Both of us would like
> to be assessed solely by our qualifications and ability to get the job done
> and not be given additional brownie points for having a disability, just as
> we would not like to be discriminated against based on our disability.
>
> As one of the lawyers said in the meeting I referenced in the first post, we
> would like to be assessed solely by the content of our character, as Dr.
> King said. That is, however, not the case sometimes. This being so, the
> question then is not if your disability will play a role but what role it
> will play. I think a better answer to that question is that, by taking
> control of the situation by making a disclosure upfront, we can make that
> role positive. Your opinion is that its role can be addressed as and when it
> naturally comes up in the selection process.
>
> Insofar as my assumption that people giving careful thought to this issue is
> concerned, that is based on my own experience. More specifically, for a
> couple of internships which I did and even in my job interview, since they
> knew I was blind beforehand, they were equipped to have a constructive
> conversation which they would have perhaps not been if they didn't know this
> beforehand. In my job interview, for example, I was asked how I would feel
> about being asked to shift to a different vertical in the firm owing to the
> constraints flowing from my disability. I don't think such a thoughtful
> question could have been formulated sans prior notice.
>
> In the meeting I had, the folks espousing the  view that disclosure should
> not be made were saying that prior disclosure results in : (a) the employer
> trying to lay traps to not hire you due to objective factors and (b) making
> a palpable difference in how you are treated in the interview. Now, I
> personally have never faced such treatment. However, it is certainly
> conceivable. If a potential employer is biased against you in that way, I
> think the best approach is to make as strong and emphatic a case about: (a)
> howyour disability will not come in the way; (b) some of their concerns are
> unfounded and (c) you can help the workforce become more diverse, bring to
> the table valuable problem-solving skills and grit which your sighted
> colleagues do not possess ( here I should mention that I am of the firm view
> that a blind person does possess these in a more substantial measure than
> their sighted counterparts because it is not as though they haven't acquired
> these skills through academic and other pursuits like their sighted
> colleagues. They have, and on top of that they have acquired the skills
> flowing from grappling with an objective impairment which their sighted
> colleagues have not, but perhaps those similarly disadvantaged, like people
> of colour or LGBT people have).
>
> Again, I don't think you would disagree with these 3 points. Indeed, you
> embody them more fully than most disabled people. I am of the considered
> view that these 3 points can best be brought home by laying the foundation
> for them in their application. It appears that you already do this, as you
> say that you make indirect references to it in your resume. The lawyers in
> that meeting, however, were saying that such references should also be
> removed, to avoid the 2 consequences I outlined at para 4 above, which I
> wholly disagree with.
>
> Finally, because you cannot predict which employers will try to be
> discriminatory and which not, one's best bet would be to make a disclosure,
> either wholly or in part but in my view wholly, to be able to make these 3
> points, in every case.
>
> Best,
> Rahul
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 14, 2018, at 10:15 PM, Kartik Sawhney 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rahul,
>>
>> Your points are interesting but I still maintain what I said before.
>> Let's say I am applying for a software engineering position. do I want
>> the employer to be impressed by all that I have done despite my
>> disability, or be impressed by my academic or professional
>> accomplishment

Re: [AI] Converting EPub to Doc file

2018-09-14 Thread Pramit

Please use Calibre - it  handles all formats and  is accessible with NVDA.

https://calibre-ebook.com/download_windows


On 9/14/2018 7:45 PM, Ved wrote:

Although I have adobe digital edition which reads epub files quiet well, at
times, it does not accepts reading by sentence command. So I want to convert
epub files to doc in order to study the material more thoroughly.

Is there any solution for the same?




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Re: [AI] Update regard to Unique Disability Identity (UDID) Card

2018-09-14 Thread vishal sharma
i have sent it to your mail.it is a scanned copy.

On 9/14/18, Amar Jain  wrote:
> Austin- the regional text gets typed basis what you write in English. Use
> NVDA to correct things if required.
>
> Regards,
> Amar Jain
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 14-Sep-2018, at 12:49 PM, Austin Pinto 
>> wrote:
>>
>> do i need to fill the edit boxes written in Hindi also
>>
>>> On 9/14/18, Shruti Pushkarna  wrote:
>>> Hi Vishal,
>>>
>>> If it's okay with you, can you please share a copy or a photo of your
>>> UDID?
>>> Just want to see what it looks like, because on our Eyeway helpline, a
>>> lot
>>> of callers seek information regarding this card.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Shruti
>>>
>>> On 14 September 2018 at 10:49, vishal sharma 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have got mine .

> On 9/13/18, Austin Pinto  wrote:
> i was filling my application and got some problem.
> after the name, middle name and sirname boxes there are edit boxes in
> which nvda reads edit?
> what is that.
>
>> On 9/13/18, Austin Pinto  wrote:
>> ya i also want to know what is the benifit of this card.
>> ill submit my application now.
>>
>>> On 9/13/18, sazid shaik  wrote:
>>> please tell me what is the use of this card?
>>>
>>> thanks and regards,
>>> sazid
>>>
 On 9/12/18, George Abraham  wrote:
 The info I have is that the Govt. will start issuing the cards only
 after
 December, 2018.

 -Original Message-
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 Behalf
 Of Amar Jain
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:13 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
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 Subject: Re: [AI] Update regard to Unique Disability Identity (UDID)
 Card

 Mine still shows as application submitted. What else can I do except
 writing
 to the helpdesk?

 Regards,
 Amar Jain

 Sent from my iPhone

> On 12-Sep-2018, at 7:08 PM, sampath raj rao
> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Have anyone received the UDID plastic card so far? I got my
> UDID
> number alloted on the month of Febrary and so far didn't
> received...
>
>> On 9/11/18, Prashant Naik  wrote:
>> Friends,
>>
>>
>>
>> An update regard to Unique Disability Identity (UDID) Card
>>
>> I had done my online enrolment last year on the site
>> www.swavlambancard.gov.in/
>>
>>
>>
>> Yesterday I got SMS stating ‘PN, you have been successfully
 allocated
>> UDID
>> no …”.   When logged in today I got status as : Details shared
>> with
>> Agency
>> for printing UDID Card.  There are links to Download your
>> E-Disability Certificate and Download your E-UDID Card which I
>> downloaded
>> in PDF.
>>
>>
>>
>> The running ticker on the site displays below info:-
>>
>> As on 11-09-2018 9,55,419 UDID Cards have been generated. States
 wise
>> total generated UDID Cards
>>
>> MADHYA PRADESH(2,76,378),
>>
>> RAJASTHAN(2,75,629),
>>
>> ODISHA(1,23,877),
>>
>> CHHATTISGARH(76,769),
>>
>> UTTAR PRADESH(63,396),
>>
>> GUJARAT(61,961),
>>
>> TAMIL NADU(26,957),
>>
>> MAHARASHTRA(22,980),
>>
>> HARYANA(13,406),
>>
>> JHARKHAND(5,899),
>>
>> PUNJAB(3,189),
>>
>> MEGHALAYA(1,592),
>>
>> KERALA(1,175),
>>
>> TRIPURA(796),
>>
>> MIZORAM(484),
>>
>> CHANDIGARH(360),
>>
>> ANDAMAN AND NICOBAR ISLANDS(337),
>>
>> HIMACHAL PRADESH(86),
>>
>> BIHAR(78),
>>
>> SIKKIM(28),
>>
>> ARUNACHAL PRADESH(20),
>>
>> DADRA AND NAGAR HAVELI(13),
>>
>> DAMAN AND DIU(7),
>>
>> TELANGANA(1),
>>
>> WEST BENGAL(1)
>>
>>
>>
>> 44,76,307 applications were received online for UDID Card.
>>
>>
>>
>> Shared this for our list information.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Prashant Naik
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Disclosure of disability in a job application: your personal views

2018-09-14 Thread Sathiyaprakash Ramdoss
I strongly concur with Kartik. I am here in U.S.  since 2005. After
completing my Ph.D., in Special Education  from a tier 1 research
institution, I secured a tenure-track faculty position in a public
research-intensive university. I would prefer to go to the job market
with my  skills and credentials. We teach inclusion, ADA, IDEA, neuro
diversity, etc., but here in this pragmatic world, product that you
could deliver is more important than the process that you've gone
through to get the same. we could  realize, some of our challenges
(i.e., physical) are  really conspicuous and some of them (e.g.,
cognitive, sensory) are not, right?

Sathiya

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Re: [AI] Disclosure of disability in a job application: your personal views

2018-09-14 Thread Kartik Sawhney
Hi Rahul,

Your points are interesting but I still maintain what I said before.
Let's say I am applying for a software engineering position. do I want
the employer to be impressed by all that I have done despite my
disability, or be impressed by my academic or professional
accomplishments alone? Now, again, this is very personal, but I prefer
the latter. I don't think that my disability should play any role in
they selecting me as an engineer because that is not going to play any
role when at job either. it might have helped me develop problem
solving skills, but so have other academic and professional
opportunities like anyone else, and I'd rather highlight them, not
because I have any fear of they descriminating against me, but just
because that is what I prefer. Indirect references to disability
through leadership opportunities also highlight this, so I don't feel
the need to explicitly highlight my disability. I might have done some
crazy stuff despite my disability, but if I don't have the
qualifications or experience they are looking for, then I shouldn't
get that job just like anyone else.

To your point about disclosing giving them enough time to think about
constructive questions for the interview, I think you're making a big
assumption there that the HR and your interviewers have all the time
to research about your disability and carefully think about it. In
most cases, this will not be true. A resume, on an average, receives
no more than 30 s, and during that time, it is primarily going to be
past knowledge and biases that will determine the outcome. I have
disclosed on numerous occasions but most of the times, this was not
even communicated to the interviewers. But, was the interview bad just
because they did not know about my disability? No. I think it's up to
you to make them comfortable and demonstrate during that process how
you will be successful. Also, remember that in most of the cases, your
resume is not even reviewed by the hiring manager before the
interview, so by disclosing, you're only telling the HR who is not
going to be involved in the interview. I'll admit all of this is true
for tech, but I'm not sure how other industries work.

I agree with your third point. The point is not about whether you
should disclose, but it's more about when, to whom and how. We need to
understand that just as how we might not understand other
disabilities, the world does not understand us as well and that's
fine. to expect them to do their research and somehow overcome their
biases isn't fair either. It's really on us to help them understand us
and our disabilities, which is exactly why I prefer disclosing at
interviews or having conversations after one is shortlisted.

There is no right or wrong answer here. It's a function of various
things, including how you'd like the world to know you, whether there
will be significant changes in how you do your work because of your
disability and so on.

Best,
-Kartik

On 9/14/18, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
> Kartik, it is certainly a personal decision, but I definitely believe that
> there is great value to be gained by making a case, in your job application,
> for the proposition that you have achieved a significant amount of success,
> assuming you have, despite your disability. In this way, you are able to
> arrogate to yourself the power to shape your narrative, insofar as it
> concerns your disability. To illustrate, I used to mention in my cover
> letter that the battle to thrive in a world designed essentially for the
> sighted has endowed me with a unique set of problem-solving skills which
> sets me apart. I think that you can present your disability as an asset if
> you do this.
>
> Second, to your point about potential employers discerning the fact that you
> are disabled when they see you for the interview, I think that approach
> deprives them of the opportunity to give careful thought to how your
> disability might impact your work and to frame constructive questions on
> that basis. Whatever questions they ask you in such a scenario would be off
> the cuff and so you may not be able to get a chance to address all their
> inhibitions.
>
> Third, I think it may not be a good idea to operate on the premise that, for
> a person with a disability, the employment decision will wholly be based on
> your qualifications and your disability will play no part in the process. I
> think it certainly plays a part, even though it is true that you can later,
> by dint of your talents and abilities neutralize its role completely. This
> being so, it's best, in my view, to exhibit the willingness to discuss it
> upfront, as opposed to letting things unfold in their own way.
>
> Finally, I think it is also true that there are disabled people and then
> there are disabled people. Not everyone may have an academic record or work
> experience that can make you so much better qualified than others that you
> clearly have an upper hand, if the disability is taken out of the 

Re: [AI] Disclosure of disability in a job application: your personal views

2018-09-14 Thread Pranav Lal
Rahul,

I second Kartik's approach. As for careful consideration, sorry, that does
not happen in my experience. The reality is that your CV will be first
considered by human resources who usually do not have a clue about how you
will fit into the workplace. It then goes to your potential manager who
looks at it quickly and then takes a decision if you are to be called. If
you have not done work in the disability field, that is fine. Go for the
interview and see how things work. 
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Re: [AI] A question related to Ms. Office.

2018-09-14 Thread Giri Prasad
thanks for the info.

On 14/09/2018, mukesh jain  wrote:
> hello,
> so far I have not faced any problems. if you have any doubts in
> specific kindly ask the same.
> thanks,
>
> On 9/13/18, Giri Prasad  wrote:
>> Dear Mukesh jee,
>> don't we face any problems installing two or more office versions?
>>
>> On 13/09/2018, mukesh jain  wrote:
>>> hello,
>>> yes, you can install earlier versions of ms office simultaneously on
>>> one computer. on my laptop, I have installed all the versions from ms
>>> word 2003 to 2016 as I have to teach several students depending on
>>> their need.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/13/18, Giri Prasad  wrote:
 Dear all,
 I have installed and using Ms. office 2016 on my laptop with windows
 64bit. Can I install office 2007 and use it simultaneously?

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[AI] Converting EPub to Doc file

2018-09-14 Thread Ved
Although I have adobe digital edition which reads epub files quiet well, at
times, it does not accepts reading by sentence command. So I want to convert
epub files to doc in order to study the material more thoroughly.

Is there any solution for the same?




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Re: [AI] Disclosure of disability in a job application: your personal views

2018-09-14 Thread Preeti Monga
Interesting!
I completely agree with Rahul! I have a disability, so what? The world must
know about it up front! As far as I am concerned, I am only class 10 pass,
and have not done badly professionally at all! I still get job offers  even
at my age, and I am past retirement age long back! So  there is something to
think about there? If you are capable and a good and willing learner, and do
not have the intention  of just getting by, I think this world is more than
willing to hire us! They need productive people, and they are smart enough
to recognize one when they see one, or see a CV! The only thing is that we
must continue to display our abilities  all the time where ever we are!
Always make it a habit to do a great job! 

Hope that helps?

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: 14 September 2018 17:18
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Disclosure of disability in a job application: your
personal views

Kartik, it is certainly a personal decision, but I definitely believe that
there is great value to be gained by making a case, in your job application,
for the proposition that you have achieved a significant amount of success,
assuming you have, despite your disability. In this way, you are able to
arrogate to yourself the power to shape your narrative, insofar as it
concerns your disability. To illustrate, I used to mention in my cover
letter that the battle to thrive in a world designed essentially for the
sighted has endowed me with a unique set of problem-solving skills which
sets me apart. I think that you can present your disability as an asset if
you do this.

Second, to your point about potential employers discerning the fact that you
are disabled when they see you for the interview, I think that approach
deprives them of the opportunity to give careful thought to how your
disability might impact your work and to frame constructive questions on
that basis. Whatever questions they ask you in such a scenario would be off
the cuff and so you may not be able to get a chance to address all their
inhibitions.

Third, I think it may not be a good idea to operate on the premise that, for
a person with a disability, the employment decision will wholly be based on
your qualifications and your disability will play no part in the process. I
think it certainly plays a part, even though it is true that you can later,
by dint of your talents and abilities neutralize its role completely. This
being so, it's best, in my view, to exhibit the willingness to discuss it
upfront, as opposed to letting things unfold in their own way.

Finally, I think it is also true that there are disabled people and then
there are disabled people. Not everyone may have an academic record or work
experience that can make you so much better qualified than others that you
clearly have an upper hand, if the disability is taken out of the calculus.
In that event, trying to downplay its impact may be the best idea.

Best,
Rahul

  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 14, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Kartik Sawhney 
wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is a very personal decision in my opinion. A resume is meant to 
> highlight some of the most important things you'd like to tell about 
> yourself to a potential employer. If you decide that disability is one 
> of those things, then sure, it should be included. However, if you 
> think that disability is not as key from a resume perspective, and 
> you'd only like to include it to give a heads-up to the employer, then 
> I don't think that's necessary, especially for a visible disability.
> In any case, during the interview, the interviewers would know that 
> you are a person with a disability. But at that time, you will have an 
> opportunity to explain how you can accomplish your job well using 
> assistive technology and how you have not let your disability be an 
> impediment in the past. In India and the US both, there continues to 
> be a lack of awareness, but it is not always the case that people 
> don't want to understand. Your resume may be reviewed by people who 
> genuinely don't think you can do the task because they really don't 
> know anything about disability, but the same people might be the most 
> supportive once you demonstrate how you do your work. Of course, you 
> might need to disclose even before interview but after

Re: [AI] Disclosure of disability in a job application: your personal views

2018-09-14 Thread Rahul Bajaj
Kartik, it is certainly a personal decision, but I definitely believe that 
there is great value to be gained by making a case, in your job application, 
for the proposition that you have achieved a significant amount of success, 
assuming you have, despite your disability. In this way, you are able to 
arrogate to yourself the power to shape your narrative, insofar as it concerns 
your disability. To illustrate, I used to mention in my cover letter that the 
battle to thrive in a world designed essentially for the sighted has endowed me 
with a unique set of problem-solving skills which sets me apart. I think that 
you can present your disability as an asset if you do this.

Second, to your point about potential employers discerning the fact that you 
are disabled when they see you for the interview, I think that approach 
deprives them of the opportunity to give careful thought to how your disability 
might impact your work and to frame constructive questions on that basis. 
Whatever questions they ask you in such a scenario would be off the cuff and so 
you may not be able to get a chance to address all their inhibitions.

Third, I think it may not be a good idea to operate on the premise that, for a 
person with a disability, the employment decision will wholly be based on your 
qualifications and your disability will play no part in the process. I think it 
certainly plays a part, even though it is true that you can later, by dint of 
your talents and abilities neutralize its role completely. This being so, it's 
best, in my view, to exhibit the willingness to discuss it upfront, as opposed 
to letting things unfold in their own way.

Finally, I think it is also true that there are disabled people and then there 
are disabled people. Not everyone may have an academic record or work 
experience that can make you so much better qualified than others that you 
clearly have an upper hand, if the disability is taken out of the calculus. In 
that event, trying to downplay its impact may be the best idea.

Best,
Rahul

  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 14, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Kartik Sawhney  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is a very personal decision in my opinion. A resume is meant to
> highlight some of the most important things you'd like to tell about
> yourself to a potential employer. If you decide that disability is one
> of those things, then sure, it should be included. However, if you
> think that disability is not as key from a resume perspective, and
> you'd only like to include it to give a heads-up to the employer, then
> I don't think that's necessary, especially for a visible disability.
> In any case, during the interview, the interviewers would know that
> you are a person with a disability. But at that time, you will have an
> opportunity to explain how you can accomplish your job well using
> assistive technology and how you have not let your disability be an
> impediment in the past. In India and the US both, there continues to
> be a lack of awareness, but it is not always the case that people
> don't want to understand. Your resume may be reviewed by people who
> genuinely don't think you can do the task because they really don't
> know anything about disability, but the same people might be the most
> supportive once you demonstrate how you do your work. Of course, you
> might need to disclose even before interview but after you have been
> shortlisted for one to get reasonable accommodations. Personally, I
> disclose disability indirectly on my resume through my work in the
> field and awards etc.
> 
> Best,
> -Kartik
> 
>> On 9/13/18, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
>> Hi All,
 
 I hope this message finds you well.
 
 I was actually wondering what you thought about something that flows from
 a conversation that I had with some blind lawyers in the US in a meeting
 aimed at guiding some fresh law school graduates with disabilities who
 are finding great difficulty getting employed.
 
 One line of argument was that a disabled lawyer should not disclose their
 disability in their job application/cv, given that this wouldgive an
 employer a potential reason to discriminate and to find strategic ways to
 disguise that discrimination in such a subtle way as to ensure that it
 does not appear legally suspect (principally by citing reasons not
 related to a person's disability for not giving an interview call or the
 like, when the actual reason is disability). Proponents of this view
 believe that the interview process is solely aimed at ascertaining
 whether an applicant is qualified for the job concerned and that a
 disability has no bearing on that determination. By bringing the
 disability into the picture, you often end up colouring a potential
 employer's views about you in a negative way. They argue that the
 disability can be discussed once a decision to hire you has been made,
 for discussing reasonable accommoda

Re: [AI] Update regard to Unique Disability Identity (UDID) Card

2018-09-14 Thread Amar Jain
Austin- the regional text gets typed basis what you write in English. Use NVDA 
to correct things if required.

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14-Sep-2018, at 12:49 PM, Austin Pinto  
> wrote:
> 
> do i need to fill the edit boxes written in Hindi also
> 
>> On 9/14/18, Shruti Pushkarna  wrote:
>> Hi Vishal,
>> 
>> If it's okay with you, can you please share a copy or a photo of your UDID?
>> Just want to see what it looks like, because on our Eyeway helpline, a lot
>> of callers seek information regarding this card.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Shruti
>> 
>> On 14 September 2018 at 10:49, vishal sharma 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have got mine .
>>> 
 On 9/13/18, Austin Pinto  wrote:
 i was filling my application and got some problem.
 after the name, middle name and sirname boxes there are edit boxes in
 which nvda reads edit?
 what is that.
 
> On 9/13/18, Austin Pinto  wrote:
> ya i also want to know what is the benifit of this card.
> ill submit my application now.
> 
>> On 9/13/18, sazid shaik  wrote:
>> please tell me what is the use of this card?
>> 
>> thanks and regards,
>> sazid
>> 
>>> On 9/12/18, George Abraham  wrote:
>>> The info I have is that the Govt. will start issuing the cards only
>>> after
>>> December, 2018.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Amar Jain
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:13 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Update regard to Unique Disability Identity (UDID)
>>> Card
>>> 
>>> Mine still shows as application submitted. What else can I do except
>>> writing
>>> to the helpdesk?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Amar Jain
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 12-Sep-2018, at 7:08 PM, sampath raj rao 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, Have anyone received the UDID plastic card so far? I got my UDID
 number alloted on the month of Febrary and so far didn't received...
 
> On 9/11/18, Prashant Naik  wrote:
> Friends,
> 
> 
> 
> An update regard to Unique Disability Identity (UDID) Card
> 
> I had done my online enrolment last year on the site
> www.swavlambancard.gov.in/
> 
> 
> 
> Yesterday I got SMS stating ‘PN, you have been successfully
>>> allocated
> UDID
> no …”.   When logged in today I got status as : Details shared with
> Agency
> for printing UDID Card.  There are links to Download your
> E-Disability Certificate and Download your E-UDID Card which I
> downloaded
> in PDF.
> 
> 
> 
> The running ticker on the site displays below info:-
> 
> As on 11-09-2018 9,55,419 UDID Cards have been generated. States
>>> wise
> total generated UDID Cards
> 
> MADHYA PRADESH(2,76,378),
> 
> RAJASTHAN(2,75,629),
> 
> ODISHA(1,23,877),
> 
> CHHATTISGARH(76,769),
> 
> UTTAR PRADESH(63,396),
> 
> GUJARAT(61,961),
> 
> TAMIL NADU(26,957),
> 
> MAHARASHTRA(22,980),
> 
> HARYANA(13,406),
> 
> JHARKHAND(5,899),
> 
> PUNJAB(3,189),
> 
> MEGHALAYA(1,592),
> 
> KERALA(1,175),
> 
> TRIPURA(796),
> 
> MIZORAM(484),
> 
> CHANDIGARH(360),
> 
> ANDAMAN AND NICOBAR ISLANDS(337),
> 
> HIMACHAL PRADESH(86),
> 
> BIHAR(78),
> 
> SIKKIM(28),
> 
> ARUNACHAL PRADESH(20),
> 
> DADRA AND NAGAR HAVELI(13),
> 
> DAMAN AND DIU(7),
> 
> TELANGANA(1),
> 
> WEST BENGAL(1)
> 
> 
> 
> 44,76,307 applications were received online for UDID Card.
> 
> 
> 
> Shared this for our list information.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Prashant Naik
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [AI] Disclosure of disability in a job application: your personal views

2018-09-14 Thread turab chimthanawala
Hi,
I too follow the practice of indirectly disclosing my disability
through my Resume. Per my experience most people are unexposed to what
persons with disability can accomplish with assistive technology.
Hence, disclosing the same in a telecon or email may lead to
unnecessary apprehensions and confusions.
At the personal interview stage one does have a sufficient opportunity
to prove and demonstrate  the work arounds he adopts to accomplish the
desired objective.
As regards the argument that specific non disclosure may be considered
as unfair means, my point is that if we can ultimately achieve the
desired task, the means should not carry much weight. Moreover, if we
have disclosed our disability indirectly in our resume, a thorough
scrutiny of the resume would make it very clear that we are disabled.
Best
Turab


On 9/14/18, Kartik Sawhney  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is a very personal decision in my opinion. A resume is meant to
> highlight some of the most important things you'd like to tell about
> yourself to a potential employer. If you decide that disability is one
> of those things, then sure, it should be included. However, if you
> think that disability is not as key from a resume perspective, and
> you'd only like to include it to give a heads-up to the employer, then
> I don't think that's necessary, especially for a visible disability.
> In any case, during the interview, the interviewers would know that
> you are a person with a disability. But at that time, you will have an
> opportunity to explain how you can accomplish your job well using
> assistive technology and how you have not let your disability be an
> impediment in the past. In India and the US both, there continues to
> be a lack of awareness, but it is not always the case that people
> don't want to understand. Your resume may be reviewed by people who
> genuinely don't think you can do the task because they really don't
> know anything about disability, but the same people might be the most
> supportive once you demonstrate how you do your work. Of course, you
> might need to disclose even before interview but after you have been
> shortlisted for one to get reasonable accommodations. Personally, I
> disclose disability indirectly on my resume through my work in the
> field and awards etc.
>
> Best,
> -Kartik
>
> On 9/13/18, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
>> Hi All,

 I hope this message finds you well.

 I was actually wondering what you thought about something that flows
 from
 a conversation that I had with some blind lawyers in the US in a
 meeting
 aimed at guiding some fresh law school graduates with disabilities who
 are finding great difficulty getting employed.

 One line of argument was that a disabled lawyer should not disclose
 their
 disability in their job application/cv, given that this wouldgive an
 employer a potential reason to discriminate and to find strategic ways
 to
 disguise that discrimination in such a subtle way as to ensure that it
 does not appear legally suspect (principally by citing reasons not
 related to a person's disability for not giving an interview call or
 the
 like, when the actual reason is disability). Proponents of this view
 believe that the interview process is solely aimed at ascertaining
 whether an applicant is qualified for the job concerned and that a
 disability has no bearing on that determination. By bringing the
 disability into the picture, you often end up colouring a potential
 employer's views about you in a negative way. They argue that the
 disability can be discussed once a decision to hire you has been made,
 for discussing reasonable accommodations.

 On the other hand, I am of the view that it is important to proceed on
 the premise that people do not have a discriminatory intent and to
 disclose the fact of your disability upfront while also making clear
 that
 your disability has not held you back from realizing your full
 potential,
 as opposed to brushing this issue under the carpet and thereby
 squandering the opportunity to disabuse a potential employer of false
 notions and stereotypes about a disabled person's competence. My view
 is
 that concealing the fact of one's disability at the time of applying
 prevents a potential employer from reflecting on the modus operandi
 that
 a disabled employee is likely to adopt to perform their functions and
 consequently from asking questions about the disability in the
 interview
 which can enable them to form a more informed view about the
 applicant's
 suitability.

 I'd be grateful if you could share your personal view about this,
 whenever convenient, based on your own experience and conversations you
 may have had with folks with disabilities. Some of them were suggesting
 that my views may be based on some unique features

[AI] Article

2018-09-14 Thread C. Lyngdoh
https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/first-mysuru-university-appoints-visually-challenged-person-chairman-dept-88243

The University of Mysore (UoM) has been hailed for its decision to
appoint Krishna Hombal, a visually challenged person as Chairman of
the Department of
Political Science. This is the first time in the university's 102-year
history that a visually challenged person has taken charge of a
department.

Speaking to The News Minute from Mysuru, the newly appointed chairman
said that he has the responsibility of promoting both Political
Science and supporting
people with disabilities. "The University has given me an opportunity
to head the department. It is a historic decision for promoting equal
opportunities
and inclusive participation for those who are visually challenged. We
want to popularise Political Science in the University. We want to
promote research
and improve the social utility of the department," he said. Krishna
takes over from Prof GT Ramachandrappa after his term ended.

Assistant Professor Krishna Hombal, who has been visually challenged
since birth, began working in the department in 1999 and his
appointment as Chairman
of the Political Science Department on September 7 caps a remarkable
rise through the ranks of the university.

He studied at the Government School for Blind Children in Hubballi
from 1975 to 1982 before continuing his studies at the Government High
School for Blind
Children at Tilaknagar in Mysuru.  He completed his BA at the
Karnataka Arts College in Dharwad and his MA in Political Science at
Karnatak University,
Dharwad and completed his PhD from Mysuru University in 2010.

In addition to his responsibilities at the University, Krishna is also
the coordinator of Centre for Education of Visually Challenged,
Project Drushti,
under the University Grants Commission." I am an ambassador of
visually challenged persons in the society and at the same time, I
have to take the confidence
of the society in the ability of visually challenged persons like me.
We want to build a full-fledged centre to train visually challenged
persons under
this project," he said.

The University’s decision to promote Krishna has received praise and
he hopes that it will lead to more such appointments in other
universities. “Inclusiveness
should not just be restricted to legislation. We should encourage
professionals to trust in the capabilities of persons with challenges
like myself,” he
said.

block quote
For the first time in its 102-year history, the Mysuru University has
appointed a visually challenged assistant professor, Dr Krishna R.
Hombal as the
head of the political science department. Unfortunately, the media is
blind to such positive stories around us.
pic.twitter.com/heEFIylqtS

— Gautham Machaiah (@GauthamMachaiah)
September 12, 2018
block quote end

-- 
Thanks,
Cornelius Lyngdoh.




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[AI] Information regarding UDID Card for Person with disibility

2018-09-14 Thread Sanjeev Kumar Gandhi
Hello Access Indian's! I Sanjeev Kumar from Chandigarh i have apply
for UDID Card and may 2018 UDID team issue a UDID card No. and send
text message for my Mobile Number. but my phone is damage and i have
change my Mobile unfortunatlly  message has been deleted i have try in
UDID vebsite to downlord a copy of UDID card but my UDID card No. is
missing for my site Please guide me to downlord my UDID Card Your
action is helpfull for me.
Thanks and Regard
Sanjeev Kumar
Mobile No. +919872436426




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Re: [AI] Update regard to Unique Disability Identity (UDID) Card

2018-09-14 Thread Maruti Paramwad
I think yes, you have to fill either Marathi or Hindi.

On 9/14/18, Austin Pinto  wrote:
> do i need to fill the edit boxes written in Hindi also
>
> On 9/14/18, Shruti Pushkarna  wrote:
>> Hi Vishal,
>>
>> If it's okay with you, can you please share a copy or a photo of your
>> UDID?
>> Just want to see what it looks like, because on our Eyeway helpline, a lot
>> of callers seek information regarding this card.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shruti
>>
>> On 14 September 2018 at 10:49, vishal sharma 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have got mine .
>>>
>>> On 9/13/18, Austin Pinto  wrote:
>>> > i was filling my application and got some problem.
>>> > after the name, middle name and sirname boxes there are edit boxes in
>>> > which nvda reads edit?
>>> > what is that.
>>> >
>>> > On 9/13/18, Austin Pinto  wrote:
>>> >> ya i also want to know what is the benifit of this card.
>>> >> ill submit my application now.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 9/13/18, sazid shaik  wrote:
>>> >>> please tell me what is the use of this card?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> thanks and regards,
>>> >>> sazid
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 9/12/18, George Abraham  wrote:
>>>  The info I have is that the Govt. will start issuing the cards only
>>>  after
>>>  December, 2018.
>>> 
>>>  -Original Message-
>>>  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>  Behalf
>>>  Of Amar Jain
>>>  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:13 PM
>>>  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>  concerning
>>>  the disabled.
>>>  Subject: Re: [AI] Update regard to Unique Disability Identity (UDID)
>>>  Card
>>> 
>>>  Mine still shows as application submitted. What else can I do except
>>>  writing
>>>  to the helpdesk?
>>> 
>>>  Regards,
>>>  Amar Jain
>>> 
>>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> > On 12-Sep-2018, at 7:08 PM, sampath raj rao
>>> > 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi, Have anyone received the UDID plastic card so far? I got my
>>> > UDID
>>> > number alloted on the month of Febrary and so far didn't
>>> > received...
>>> >
>>> >> On 9/11/18, Prashant Naik  wrote:
>>> >> Friends,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> An update regard to Unique Disability Identity (UDID) Card
>>> >>
>>> >> I had done my online enrolment last year on the site
>>> >> www.swavlambancard.gov.in/
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Yesterday I got SMS stating ‘PN, you have been successfully
>>> allocated
>>> >> UDID
>>> >> no …”.   When logged in today I got status as : Details shared
>>> >> with
>>> >> Agency
>>> >> for printing UDID Card.  There are links to Download your
>>> >> E-Disability Certificate and Download your E-UDID Card which I
>>> >> downloaded
>>> >> in PDF.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> The running ticker on the site displays below info:-
>>> >>
>>> >> As on 11-09-2018 9,55,419 UDID Cards have been generated. States
>>> wise
>>> >> total generated UDID Cards
>>> >>
>>> >> MADHYA PRADESH(2,76,378),
>>> >>
>>> >> RAJASTHAN(2,75,629),
>>> >>
>>> >> ODISHA(1,23,877),
>>> >>
>>> >> CHHATTISGARH(76,769),
>>> >>
>>> >> UTTAR PRADESH(63,396),
>>> >>
>>> >> GUJARAT(61,961),
>>> >>
>>> >> TAMIL NADU(26,957),
>>> >>
>>> >> MAHARASHTRA(22,980),
>>> >>
>>> >> HARYANA(13,406),
>>> >>
>>> >> JHARKHAND(5,899),
>>> >>
>>> >> PUNJAB(3,189),
>>> >>
>>> >> MEGHALAYA(1,592),
>>> >>
>>> >> KERALA(1,175),
>>> >>
>>> >> TRIPURA(796),
>>> >>
>>> >> MIZORAM(484),
>>> >>
>>> >> CHANDIGARH(360),
>>> >>
>>> >> ANDAMAN AND NICOBAR ISLANDS(337),
>>> >>
>>> >> HIMACHAL PRADESH(86),
>>> >>
>>> >> BIHAR(78),
>>> >>
>>> >> SIKKIM(28),
>>> >>
>>> >> ARUNACHAL PRADESH(20),
>>> >>
>>> >> DADRA AND NAGAR HAVELI(13),
>>> >>
>>> >> DAMAN AND DIU(7),
>>> >>
>>> >> TELANGANA(1),
>>> >>
>>> >> WEST BENGAL(1)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 44,76,307 applications were received online for UDID Card.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Shared this for our list information.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards
>>> >>
>>> >> Prashant Naik
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Search for old postings at:
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Re: [AI] command for quick find link using google chrome

2018-09-14 Thread shankar shan
Hi there,
unfortunately, the / or ' commands may not work with the chrome.
alternatively, you may use jaws find command for quick search.



On 9/14/18, Renuka Warriar Edakkunni  wrote:
> Hello friends,
>
> Till now, I was using firefox as my browzor.  But, since it crashes
> more often, very recently I swiched to google chrome.  But I am unable
> to find the command for quick link, like / or ' in the firefox.
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Re: [AI] Update regard to Unique Disability Identity (UDID) Card

2018-09-14 Thread Austin Pinto
do i need to fill the edit boxes written in Hindi also

On 9/14/18, Shruti Pushkarna  wrote:
> Hi Vishal,
>
> If it's okay with you, can you please share a copy or a photo of your UDID?
> Just want to see what it looks like, because on our Eyeway helpline, a lot
> of callers seek information regarding this card.
>
> Regards,
> Shruti
>
> On 14 September 2018 at 10:49, vishal sharma 
> wrote:
>
>> I have got mine .
>>
>> On 9/13/18, Austin Pinto  wrote:
>> > i was filling my application and got some problem.
>> > after the name, middle name and sirname boxes there are edit boxes in
>> > which nvda reads edit?
>> > what is that.
>> >
>> > On 9/13/18, Austin Pinto  wrote:
>> >> ya i also want to know what is the benifit of this card.
>> >> ill submit my application now.
>> >>
>> >> On 9/13/18, sazid shaik  wrote:
>> >>> please tell me what is the use of this card?
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks and regards,
>> >>> sazid
>> >>>
>> >>> On 9/12/18, George Abraham  wrote:
>>  The info I have is that the Govt. will start issuing the cards only
>>  after
>>  December, 2018.
>> 
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>  Behalf
>>  Of Amar Jain
>>  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:13 PM
>>  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>  concerning
>>  the disabled.
>>  Subject: Re: [AI] Update regard to Unique Disability Identity (UDID)
>>  Card
>> 
>>  Mine still shows as application submitted. What else can I do except
>>  writing
>>  to the helpdesk?
>> 
>>  Regards,
>>  Amar Jain
>> 
>>  Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On 12-Sep-2018, at 7:08 PM, sampath raj rao 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi, Have anyone received the UDID plastic card so far? I got my UDID
>> > number alloted on the month of Febrary and so far didn't received...
>> >
>> >> On 9/11/18, Prashant Naik  wrote:
>> >> Friends,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> An update regard to Unique Disability Identity (UDID) Card
>> >>
>> >> I had done my online enrolment last year on the site
>> >> www.swavlambancard.gov.in/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yesterday I got SMS stating ‘PN, you have been successfully
>> allocated
>> >> UDID
>> >> no …”.   When logged in today I got status as : Details shared with
>> >> Agency
>> >> for printing UDID Card.  There are links to Download your
>> >> E-Disability Certificate and Download your E-UDID Card which I
>> >> downloaded
>> >> in PDF.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The running ticker on the site displays below info:-
>> >>
>> >> As on 11-09-2018 9,55,419 UDID Cards have been generated. States
>> wise
>> >> total generated UDID Cards
>> >>
>> >> MADHYA PRADESH(2,76,378),
>> >>
>> >> RAJASTHAN(2,75,629),
>> >>
>> >> ODISHA(1,23,877),
>> >>
>> >> CHHATTISGARH(76,769),
>> >>
>> >> UTTAR PRADESH(63,396),
>> >>
>> >> GUJARAT(61,961),
>> >>
>> >> TAMIL NADU(26,957),
>> >>
>> >> MAHARASHTRA(22,980),
>> >>
>> >> HARYANA(13,406),
>> >>
>> >> JHARKHAND(5,899),
>> >>
>> >> PUNJAB(3,189),
>> >>
>> >> MEGHALAYA(1,592),
>> >>
>> >> KERALA(1,175),
>> >>
>> >> TRIPURA(796),
>> >>
>> >> MIZORAM(484),
>> >>
>> >> CHANDIGARH(360),
>> >>
>> >> ANDAMAN AND NICOBAR ISLANDS(337),
>> >>
>> >> HIMACHAL PRADESH(86),
>> >>
>> >> BIHAR(78),
>> >>
>> >> SIKKIM(28),
>> >>
>> >> ARUNACHAL PRADESH(20),
>> >>
>> >> DADRA AND NAGAR HAVELI(13),
>> >>
>> >> DAMAN AND DIU(7),
>> >>
>> >> TELANGANA(1),
>> >>
>> >> WEST BENGAL(1)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 44,76,307 applications were received online for UDID Card.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Shared this for our list information.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> Prashant Naik
>> >>
>> >>
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