RE: [AI] Union Access

[rajesh parakh]

SPLENDID JOB. GREAT INITIATIVE.
REGARDS,
RAJESH PARAKH

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of kota prabhu
Sent: 12 August 2022 00:47
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Union Access

thanks for keeping updated us with the activities you are doing on, we as an 
union bank stake holders and visually impaired, will be always eager to here 
updates from your team.
appriciations towards your activities and wishing you all the very best.



On 28/07/2022, Prerna Sobti  wrote:
> Great work keep it up cheers and shouts
>
> Prerna Sobti
>
>> On 28-Jul-2022, at 2:28 PM, George Abraham 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Splendid work!
>>
>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prashant Naik
>> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 1:02 PM
>> To: accessindia
>> Subject: [AI] Union Access
>>
>> Dear Friends
>>
>>
>>
>> Two months ago, I shared a positive initiative by Union Bank of India 
>> regarding the launch of a digital accessibility enhancement dedicated 
>> project called Union Access.  Myself and Rahul Gambhir are the 
>> resources involved in this project.
>>
>> It is an immense task to integrate ICT accessibility across the 
>> organization which will take time.  We have taken several steps in 
>> this direction.  Bank is on its journey to enhance digital 
>> accessibility.  We are happy to share a few areas of our work in the last 
>> few months.
>>
>> Submitted more than 30 digital accessibility and user interface 
>> enhancement feedback and testing reports to different departments. 
>> Concern teams were made aware of accessibility challenges.  We have 
>> covered digital banking channels, mobile apps, email communications 
>> and internal portals.
>>
>> Most important area of ongoing work is spreading awareness  to 
>> integrate accessibility.  We are continuously engaged in the process. 
>> We have developed 2 training modules and now they are part of the 
>> bank's eLearning system. We have done vendors’ sensitization, staff 
>> awareness, communications with departments and a very recent one is 
>> this week team Union Access conducted a series of sessions on  
>> accessible and inclusive banking for newly joined 600+ Probationary 
>> officers.  These new POs will be tomorrow’s decision makers and will 
>> spread further awareness to 6000 bankers wherever they will be 
>> posted. So the bank has done the right thing to introduce them 
>> regarding disabilities, inclusive banking and accessibility.
>>
>> Many activities were carried out as part of Union Access like survey, 
>> books publication, email communication accessibility enhancement, 
>> ecirculars accessibility, documentation, data collection, support to 
>> users and customers, talking ATM feedback and so on.
>>
>> It is great learning for us in setting up a project on digital 
>> accessibility in a large-scale bank with 75000+ employees. Few 
>> successes we did achieve however, aiming for major remediations and 
>> 'accessible by design' products.
>>
>> Most important thing is today there is a buzz word regarding Union 
>> Access and accessibility in the Union Bank of India and with due 
>> course we are hopeful to achieve milestones on accessibility improvements.
>>
>> We urge Access Indians and friends to write to us with suggestions 
>> and feedback regarding Union Bank of India Digital spaces to email id 
>> unionacc...@unionbankofindia.bank
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> Prashant Naik
>>
>> Mob: 9967968881
>>
>>
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RE: [AI] TRYING TO OPEN CURRENT AC. IN PRIVATE BANKS BUT IN VAIN

[rajesh parakh]

Hi gajendra will surely consider.
Regards,
Rajesh parakh

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Gajender Singh
Sent: 10 August 2022 11:00
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] TRYING TO OPEN CURRENT AC. IN PRIVATE BANKS BUT IN VAIN

I think you should open bank account in Punjab national bank the net banking of 
this bank is very accessible I personally use this net banking of this bank

On 8/8/22, P L Verma  wrote:
> same here.
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Vaibhav Saraf
>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>   Sent: Monday, August 08, 2022 12:09 AM
>   Subject: Re: [AI] TRYING TO OPEN CURRENT AC. IN PRIVATE BANKS BUT IN 
> VAIN
>
>
>   Hi,
>
>
>
>   I used Axis Bank for a limited amount of stuff and found the 
> netbanking totally inaccessible.
>
>
>   Thanks,
>   Vaibhav
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 at 13:58, sunil sangtani 
> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi, any specific reason for going with private banks?
> Better to go with banks like union bank of india it is not just 
> cost effective but getting more accessible day by day.
> Currently i am holding my current account with hdfc but have made 
> my mind to switch.
> Hdfc bank is accessible on web and ios ap also works nicely.
> They will give you net banking and debit card.
> Cheque book can also be issued if you are able to sign otherwise 
> every cheque will be valid only after varification by the manager.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 7, 2022, at 5:47 PM, Minar Singh  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Rajesh,
> > Net banking is very much accessible. I haven't tried mobile banking
> > using Android so won't be able to comment. but It should be
>     > accessible.
> >
> >> On 8/7/22, rajesh  wrote:
> >> Hi, is the axis bank net banking and app accessible.
> >> Regards,
> >> Rajesh parakh
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
> >> On Behalf Of Minar Singh
> >> Sent: 07 August 2022 14:21
> >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >> Subject: Re: [AI] TRYING TO OPEN CURRENT AC. IN PRIVATE BANKS 
> BUT IN VAIN
> >>
> >> Hi you can try with Axis bank staff will cooperate with you.
> >>
> >>> On 8/7/22, rajesh  wrote:
> >>> Dear friends,
> >>>
> >>> I am trying to open current ac. In private banks but in vain. 
> I have
> >>> approached kotak Mahindra bank and hdfc bank. Kotak guys told 
> me that
> >>> they will not issue cheque book and debit card despite sharing rbi
> >>> circulars and guidelines with them and hdfc bank guys are 
> still hanging me
> >>> around.
> >>>
> >>> How should I go further in opening the current ac. For my company.
> >>>
> >>> Your suggestions will be of great help.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Rajesh parakh
> >>>
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RE: [AI] TRYING TO OPEN CURRENT AC. IN PRIVATE BANKS BUT IN VAIN

[rajesh parakh]

Thanks vaibhav I am from Chennai.

Regards,

Rajesh parakh

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Vaibhav Saraf
Sent: 10 August 2022 09:46
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] TRYING TO OPEN CURRENT AC. IN PRIVATE BANKS BUT IN VAIN

 

Hi Rajesh,

You mentioned of HDFC. If you are from Bangalore, then I can give the reference 
of my branch as well which are very good in terms of support.

 

Thanks,

Vaibhav

 

 

 

 

On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 at 00:13, P L Verma  wrote:

same here.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Vaibhav Saraf <mailto:vaibhav.s@gmail.com>  

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 

Sent: Monday, August 08, 2022 12:09 AM

Subject: Re: [AI] TRYING TO OPEN CURRENT AC. IN PRIVATE BANKS BUT IN VAIN

 

Hi,

 

I used Axis Bank for a limited amount of stuff and found the netbanking totally 
inaccessible.

 

Thanks,

Vaibhav

 

 

 

On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 at 13:58, sunil sangtani  wrote:

Hi, any specific reason for going with private banks?
Better to go with banks like union bank of india it is not just cost effective 
but getting more accessible day by day.
Currently i am holding my current account with hdfc but have made my mind to 
switch.
Hdfc bank is accessible on web and ios ap also works nicely.
They will give you net banking and debit card.
Cheque book can also be issued if you are able to sign otherwise every cheque 
will be valid only after varification by the manager.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 7, 2022, at 5:47 PM, Minar Singh  wrote:
> 
> Hi Rajesh,
> Net banking is very much accessible. I haven't tried mobile banking
> using Android so won't be able to comment. but It should be
> accessible.
> 
>> On 8/7/22, rajesh  wrote:
>> Hi, is the axis bank net banking and app accessible.
>> Regards,
>> Rajesh parakh
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
>> On Behalf Of Minar Singh
>> Sent: 07 August 2022 14:21
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] TRYING TO OPEN CURRENT AC. IN PRIVATE BANKS BUT IN VAIN
>> 
>> Hi you can try with Axis bank staff will cooperate with you.
>> 
>>> On 8/7/22, rajesh  wrote:
>>> Dear friends,
>>> 
>>> I am trying to open current ac. In private banks but in vain. I have
>>> approached kotak Mahindra bank and hdfc bank. Kotak guys told me that
>>> they will not issue cheque book and debit card despite sharing rbi
>>> circulars and guidelines with them and hdfc bank guys are still hanging me
>>> around.
>>> 
>>> How should I go further in opening the current ac. For my company.
>>> 
>>> Your suggestions will be of great help.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Rajesh parakh
>>> 
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RE: [AI] TRYING TO OPEN CURRENT AC. IN PRIVATE BANKS BUT IN VAIN

[rajesh parakh]

Thanks amar. I will mail them today and lets see what is their response.

Regards,

Rajesh parakh

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: 11 August 2022 10:39
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Cc: Vaibhav Saraf
Subject: Re: [AI] TRYING TO OPEN CURRENT AC. IN PRIVATE BANKS BUT IN VAIN

 

For HDFC, write an email to: managingdirec...@hdfcbank.com

 

For Kotak, email to: c...@kotak.com

 

 

Maintain the records, and in an unlikely event of your problem not getting 
resolved in a month's time, then report it to Ombudsmen and share the details 
with me off the list.

 

I would like to underline the importance of bringing these problems to the 
notice of RBI. One of the major hurdle that we are facing today to convince RBI 
to relook at its directions is the lack of complaints that would prompt them to 
even review these issues with the seriousness it deserves.

 

Regards,

Amar Jain

On 10/08/2022 09:46, Vaibhav Saraf wrote:

Hi Rajesh, 

You mentioned of HDFC. If you are from Bangalore, then I can give the reference 
of my branch as well which are very good in terms of support.

 

Thanks,

Vaibhav

 

 

 

 

On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 at 00:13, P L Verma  wrote:

same here.

 

- Original Message -

From: Vaibhav Saraf <mailto:vaibhav.s@gmail.com> 

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Monday, August 08, 2022 12:09 AM

Subject: Re: [AI] TRYING TO OPEN CURRENT AC. IN PRIVATE BANKS BUT IN VAIN

 

Hi,

 

I used Axis Bank for a limited amount of stuff and found the netbanking totally 
inaccessible.

 

Thanks,

Vaibhav

 

 

 

On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 at 13:58, sunil sangtani  wrote:

Hi, any specific reason for going with private banks?
Better to go with banks like union bank of india it is not just cost effective 
but getting more accessible day by day.
Currently i am holding my current account with hdfc but have made my mind to 
switch.
Hdfc bank is accessible on web and ios ap also works nicely.
They will give you net banking and debit card.
Cheque book can also be issued if you are able to sign otherwise every cheque 
will be valid only after varification by the manager.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 7, 2022, at 5:47 PM, Minar Singh  wrote:
> 
> Hi Rajesh,
> Net banking is very much accessible. I haven't tried mobile banking
> using Android so won't be able to comment. but It should be
> accessible.
> 
>> On 8/7/22, rajesh  wrote:
>> Hi, is the axis bank net banking and app accessible.
>> Regards,
>> Rajesh parakh
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
>> On Behalf Of Minar Singh
>> Sent: 07 August 2022 14:21
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] TRYING TO OPEN CURRENT AC. IN PRIVATE BANKS BUT IN VAIN
>> 
>> Hi you can try with Axis bank staff will cooperate with you.
>> 
>>> On 8/7/22, rajesh  wrote:
>>> Dear friends,
>>> 
>>> I am trying to open current ac. In private banks but in vain. I have
>>> approached kotak Mahindra bank and hdfc bank. Kotak guys told me that
>>> they will not issue cheque book and debit card despite sharing rbi
>>> circulars and guidelines with them and hdfc bank guys are still hanging me
>>> around.
>>> 
>>> How should I go further in opening the current ac. For my company.
>>> 
>>> Your suggestions will be of great help.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Rajesh parakh
>>> 
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RE: [AI] TRYING TO OPEN CURRENT AC. IN PRIVATE BANKS BUT IN VAIN

[rajesh parakh]

Hi, yes this is an option for me but I wanted to go for private bank for few 
good reasons. If I fail in doing so then I will open account in union bank.

Thanks very much all of you ,your suggestions really mattered.

Thanks and regards,

Rajesh parakh

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Nirmal Verma
Sent: 07 August 2022 15:50
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] TRYING TO OPEN CURRENT AC. IN PRIVATE BANKS BUT IN VAIN

 

I think you should open your account in union Bank. Isn't this an option for 
you? 

 

Nirmal

 

On Sun, 7 Aug, 2022, 2:14 pm rajesh,  wrote:

Dear friends,

I am trying to open current ac. In private banks but in vain. I have approached 
kotak Mahindra bank and hdfc bank. Kotak guys told me that they will not issue 
cheque book and debit card despite sharing rbi circulars and guidelines with 
them and hdfc bank guys are still hanging me around.

How should I go further in opening the current ac. For my company.

Your suggestions will be of great help.

Regards,

Rajesh parakh

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[AI] not able to recieve mails through outlook express after switching to new version of yahoo.

[rajesh parakh]

Dear Friends, 
as the subject line says, i am not able to recieve mails through OE after 
switching to new version of yahoo. but i am able to send mails. please help me, 
since this is persisting from past 10 days.please e-mail the solution to my 
another ID: rajeshparak...@gmail.com as i am not able to recieve mails. i have 
tried everything through help link of MY YAHOO.
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Re: [AI] query from thahir

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear Rajesh,
you should not be provoked to unsubscribe from the list after reading such 
comments from champions of Indian culture. this list requires your valuable 
contribution. in my thinking every person loving nature and its beauty will 
never run away from sex and there's nothing wrong in talking about sex with 
like minded friends.

regards,
rajesh parakh.
- Original Message - 
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir



Dear Access India Moderator
If this has come to it, and the people like Respected Shadab Hussein have 
impudence to write like this, then please accept my heartfelt apologies 
and do unsubscribe my humble self from the list.
I am publicly requesting the unsubscription, not because I do not know the 
procedure to do so on my own, but I want all to know that this list has 
been a wonderful home to me, but I have fallen below minimum standards 
desired by it and hence ought to be dispensed with without any mercy.
I think I have taken the liberty of thought and expression well within the 
limits of public morality and all other grounds laid down by our 
constitution, but if so-called champions of Indian culture feel that I am 
an immature and unnecessary piece of clay, then let it be so.
All said and done, I strongly feel that unsubscription of some of our 
respected members for continuing to raise forbidden queries, and 
continuance of others despite their uncivilized and provoking language, 
is wrong.
Hope this group of ours will discuss many useful topics in future and 
will not listen to sex maniacs like me...



Rajesh Asudani
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shadab Husain

Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir

Well sir,


Don't say things I haven't said to prove what you are saying is correct -
blind being under an obligation to be saintly or asexual. and I still
am at a loss to comprehend  as to why the visual inability of a person
should deprive him/her of all aspects of life. Better, focus on useful
topics.


I sincerely hope that  keeping the important time of members in mind and
respecting the moderator you won't respond to this. For God's sake, don't
allow me to be impatient.


Regards Shadab Husain

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- Original Message -
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir


Well, responding to my point about   Indians shunning to describe even the
essentials, you were found to dwell on cultural issues, so you say.
So, may I construe your stand in this matter of superiority of Indian
culture over western to imply that such omissions are justified?
So curious!!!
And Shadab you have also wrote:
But the one thing I am certain of is that pornography, from the 
standpoint
of psychology, is wrong - not to talk about need. Haven't you studied it 
in

your course?
So, Psychology is far from a precise natural science as you seem to imply 
by

demanding a clear statement about pornography being wrong.
Pornography may be harmful in some instances as it may encourage
irresponsible or nonconsensual sex, but more often than not, it serves as
bulwark against such activities by permitting a momentary ventilation to
temporary passions without taking them out on unwilling and often 
unknowing

persons.
Hardly few rapists are active readers of pornography.
And I still   am at a loss to comprehend  as to why the visual inability 
of

a person should deprive him/her of all aspects of life.
It is tantamount to saying, as many people say, that the blind should only
recite bhajans and not romantic songs or even the sad songs for  that
matter.
Hence, If the moderator, without determining the questions of 
culture/morals
or blindness being a compulsion to be good/harmless, decides that the 
focus

of this list does not permit giving out sites dealing with accessible
pornographic material, then let it be so, but please do not harp on
superiority of Indian or any  other culture, or moral values of sexual
forbearance, or blind being under an obligation to be saintly or asexual 
for

that matter.
I vividly remember an instance in my school life when four of my 
schoolmates

were involved in fornication (termed forced sex) later, a question was
raised in Maharashtra legislative assembly, as to how these foursome got
into a theater and then into a lodge

Re: [AI] query from thahir

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear Rajesh,
you should not be provoked to unsubscribe from the list after reading such
comments from champions of Indian culture. this list requires your valuable
contribution. in my thinking every person loving nature and its beauty will
never run away from sex and there's nothing wrong in talking about sex with
like minded friends.
regards,
rajesh parakh.
- Original Message - 
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir



Dear Access India Moderator
If this has come to it, and the people like Respected Shadab Hussein have
impudence to write like this, then please accept my heartfelt apologies
and do unsubscribe my humble self from the list.
I am publicly requesting the unsubscription, not because I do not know the
procedure to do so on my own, but I want all to know that this list has
been a wonderful home to me, but I have fallen below minimum standards
desired by it and hence ought to be dispensed with without any mercy.
I think I have taken the liberty of thought and expression well within the
limits of public morality and all other grounds laid down by our
constitution, but if so-called champions of Indian culture feel that I am
an immature and unnecessary piece of clay, then let it be so.
All said and done, I strongly feel that unsubscription of some of our
respected members for continuing to raise forbidden queries, and
continuance of others despite their uncivilized and provoking language,
is wrong.
Hope this group of ours will discuss many useful topics in future and
will not listen to sex maniacs like me...


Rajesh Asudani
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shadab Husain
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir

Well sir,


Don't say things I haven't said to prove what you are saying is correct -
blind being under an obligation to be saintly or asexual. and I still
am at a loss to comprehend  as to why the visual inability of a person
should deprive him/her of all aspects of life. Better, focus on useful
topics.


I sincerely hope that  keeping the important time of members in mind and
respecting the moderator you won't respond to this. For God's sake, don't
allow me to be impatient.


Regards Shadab Husain

Easy tips of improving English at
http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/

My contributions to the press
http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-contributions-to-press.html#link

Many posts on one page
http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00updated-max=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00max-results=47


- Original Message -
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir


Well, responding to my point about   Indians shunning to describe even the
essentials, you were found to dwell on cultural issues, so you say.
So, may I construe your stand in this matter of superiority of Indian
culture over western to imply that such omissions are justified?
So curious!!!
And Shadab you have also wrote:
But the one thing I am certain of is that pornography, from the
standpoint
of psychology, is wrong - not to talk about need. Haven't you studied it
in
your course?
So, Psychology is far from a precise natural science as you seem to imply
by
demanding a clear statement about pornography being wrong.
Pornography may be harmful in some instances as it may encourage
irresponsible or nonconsensual sex, but more often than not, it serves as
bulwark against such activities by permitting a momentary ventilation to
temporary passions without taking them out on unwilling and often
unknowing
persons.
Hardly few rapists are active readers of pornography.
And I still   am at a loss to comprehend  as to why the visual inability
of
a person should deprive him/her of all aspects of life.
It is tantamount to saying, as many people say, that the blind should only
recite bhajans and not romantic songs or even the sad songs for  that
matter.
Hence, If the moderator, without determining the questions of
culture/morals
or blindness being a compulsion to be good/harmless, decides that the
focus
of this list does not permit giving out sites dealing with accessible
pornographic material, then let it be so, but please do not harp on
superiority of Indian or any  other culture, or moral values of sexual
forbearance, or blind being under an obligation to be saintly or asexual
for
that matter.
I vividly remember an instance in my school life when four of my
schoolmates
were involved in fornication (termed forced sex) later, a question was
raised in Maharashtra legislative assembly, as to how these foursome got
into a theater and then into a lodge despite their blindness and committed

Re: [AI] Another feather in Asudani brothers' 'Record Cap'

[Rajesh Parakh]

Hats off to you guys.
regards,
rajesh.- Original Message - 
From: Asudani, Rajesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 1:05 PM
Subject: [AI] Another feather in Asudani brothers' 'Record Cap'



The Hitwada: Monday, October 27, 2008

Another feather in Asudani brothers' 'Record Cap'
* Staff Reporter  '**'
ASUDANI brothers and records, have become almost synonymous-' with each 
other. This time, Asudani brothers have created new records.
The youngest Rajesh has become the first person to have cleared National 
Eligibility Test (NET) for lectureship and junior research fellowship 
(JRF) in three subjects. Whereas, Rajesh and Vinod have become first ever 
blind persons to qualify as psychologists in India.
Both have also been invited to participate in the first-ever Kavi Sammelan 
of blind poets organized by Madhya Pradesh Sahitya Akademi on November 2 
at Bhopal. Rajesh, Vinod and Ghanshyam also attended and presented 
research papers in National Conference on Information and Communication 
Technology for Differently Able Persons (NCICT for DAP), and Second 
Convention of AccessIndia held at Ahmedabad last month. NCICTT for DAP was 
organized by Ahmedabad chapter of Computer Society of India, and 
convention was held by AccessIndia, which is an e-group of the blind 
persons.
Notably, despite being visually impaired, Asudani brothers have shown to 
the world that they are very much capable of doing things better than 
others. A number of national and international
publications including Limca Book of Records have taken note of their 
superb academic performance. Rajesh is a Class I officer in Reserve Bank 
of India. Ghanshyam is Associate Professor in English in Anand Niketan 
College of Agriculture, and Vinod is senior lecturer in English in Shri 
Ramdeobaba Kamla Nehru Engineering College. Rajesh has become first person 
to qualify in NET conducted by UGC in three subjects. He has qualified, 
for-JRF in psychology in NET Conducted in December 2007. Previously, he 
cleared -NET in English in December 2001, and that in Law in June 2007 
.He also has qualified for JRF in Law: , he has won JRF in two of three 
NETs he has cleared. Currently, he intends to pursue interdisciplinary 
research in Law and Psychology for which he has written to UGC to allow 
him to avail twin fellowships he has won.
It may be mentioned here that Rajesh had topped the general merit list in 
SSC in 1992, HSSC in 1994, LLB in 1999, and MA (English) in 2001, for 
which he got the highest number of gold medals in 87th convocation of 
Nagpur University. He did post-graduation in Law and Applied Psychology 
also. Rajesh has appeared for examinations totaling more than 12000 marks, 
and has

scored a remarkable average of 71 per cent.
Rajesh and Vinod have stood first and second in M.Sc. (Applied Psychology) 
examination of Annamalai University by scoring 71.20 per cent and 68.20 
per cent marks respectively, to qualify as psychologists in India.
Rajesh and Ghanshyam presented paper on Technology and Law in the 
Employment of visually impaired, at NCICT for  DAP; and Vinod presented 
session on Emotional Intelligence at Second Convention of AccessIndia at 
Ahmedabad. Rajesh conducted a session on Rights for Persons with 
Disabilities, International Convention, What Next!
Rajesh and Vinod, who have published a joint collection of Gazzals 
'Adhoora Aasman' in 2002, have been invited to participate in the 
first-ever meet of blind poets organized by Madhya Pradesh Sahitya 
Akademi. Vinod, who has to his credit three collections of Sindhi poems, 
appears regularly at meets of organizations like Sahitya Akademi.
Asudani brothers have rendered credit for their success to mother Lakshmi 
Devi, Kanan and Prerna who wrote their answer papers in the examination, 
friends, colleagues, and well-wishers.

Rajesh has also rendered credit to his wife Nanda, and daughter Akalpita.



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Re: [AI] railway-triple confusion!!!

[Rajesh Parakh]

Hello friends,
i happened to travel to kolkata a few days back and due to some reason i had 
to postpone my departure for a day. i checked up the availability and found 
that two tickets were available for that date, but i was denied the tickets 
by the authorities, who stated that i cannot be issued the tickets because 
handicap quota is different than blind quota and blind can be issued tickets 
in general quota only. when i told them that i had been issued tickets in 
chennai for years now, they told that it is their fault and they will be 
questioned. in the end i had to leave kolkata without getting my work done. 
shame really.
i think Kanchan, Rajesh and other law graduates of AI must interact with 
railway ministry to address these issues.

regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: sandesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] railway-triple confusion!!!



It is indeed of great significance.
It did reach all inboxes (at least it did reach mine) but it's surprising 
really that noone said anything about it. it will definitely create more 
confusion or rather i would say it has already started.
A week or more ago, my wife was travelling in the same compartment and one 
OH person along his normal wife and small kid was literally begging for 
their seats, which he said was reserved. On ticket, it was mentioned that 
these are of berths 3 and 4 of S11 compartment. he tried to locate S11 but 
the train did not have one. Eventually, he called ticket checker and he 
said that this coach for handicapped itself is called S11 and 2 of these 
berths are alotted to him. Other passengers fought with the checker and 
finally it was decided that this couple with their child could sit in the 
same compartment.

Bye and regards.
Sandesh


- Original Message - 
From: Asudani, Rajesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] railway-triple confusion!!!



Fellow accessindians!!!

I think I, in my earlier appended message on the topic, had raised an 
issue of sufficient importance to merit at least a casual rejoinder or 
two. However, I am amazed, to say the least, at the utter silence our 
worthy brothren have chose to maintain over the state of affairs.


Pondering over the possible explanations for this fact, I am laid to 
consider the possibilities like the earlier message failing to make it to 
various inboxes in general apart from my own, or else, I, in my endeavor 
to convey the issue with precision, ventured beyond the linguistic 
capacities of many of us, or thirdly, even though it pains me to think, 
the issue was deemed to be of so little importance as not to merit the 
effort to clutter the inboxes, or else, I am sadly and gravely mistaken 
about the nature of things.


Anyway, the issue of HP quota being carved out of hitherto existing 
general disabled coach and confusing it with ordinary as well as reserved 
disabled passengers along with unauthorized occupants and placing it in a 
disjointed manner, is still in my opinion an example of increasing trend 
of non participative decisions about the disabled being taken supposedly 
in their interests but casual in nature and actually disadvantageous  to 
them often.
Unlike AIR broadcasting cricket commentary for it is the most accessible 
to visually impaired, over which we have poured dozens of mails and about 
which one of our respected friends promises to  arouse honorable I  B 
minister from the deep slumber which confronts him in a respectable 
recuperation centre in our capital,
this issue practically inconveniences us and let us discus, decide and 
drop a word about it to some authorities.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Asudani, 
Rajesh

Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:17 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] railway-triple confusion!!!

Friends
A few days ago, in response to a news item about handicapped quota in 
sleeper class of Indian railways being increased, I had expressed 
apprehensions which unfortunately turned out to be worse than what I had 
anticipated. In my face to face encounter with this increased handicapped 
quota of six, I found out to my utter horror, that the increase of four 
berths comes from nowhere other than handicapped coach being attached at 
the extremities of the wrack, which hitherto was a general coach for the 
disabled.
Now, it has been recognized as a sleeper coach and four berths therein 
may be reserved through reservation counters in HP quota.
Now, it adds to already prevailing chaos in such coaches. Firstly, its 
use by all and sundry unreserved passengers is an unpreventable menace. 
Secondly, in four berths reserved new avatar, we can not justly prevent 
unreserved disabled passengers, thirdly jumbling up reserved and 
unreserved passengers disabled or not, in the same 

Re: [AI] what's cone distrophy.

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear Rahul,
Thanks very much. i will check it up.
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: Rahul Cherian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] what's cone distrophy.



 Hi Rajesh,

 I did some googling and found the following links which might be useful.

 http://www.afb.org/message_board_replies.asp?TopicID=490FolderID=14
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cone_dystrophy

 Best regards,

 Rahul Cherian Jacob
 Mobile: 98403 57991


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:13:09 +0530
 Subject: [AI] what's cone distrophy.

 Dear Friends,
 can any body throw some light on cone distrophy. what is it and any
 treatment available or any medicine to prevent it from worsoning.
 thanks in advance,
 regards,
 rajesh.
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[AI] what's cone distrophy.

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear Friends, 
can any body throw some light on cone distrophy. what is it and any treatment 
available or any medicine to prevent it from worsoning. 
thanks in advance, 
regards, 
rajesh.
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Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines

[Rajesh Parakh]

Till biometric systems are introduced combination of three things can be
done at a time: cheque books with difference to be issued to VI, thumb
impressions and seals with serial numbers to be used at a time while issuing
cheques. seals if stolen they can be replaced with another serial number.
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: phani srikanth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ashwani [EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines


 hi, as i openianed earlier security is the hole responsibility of a
 blind person. when we are asking for all fascilities it is our
 responsibility to look that they are not misused. even in the case of
 debit or credit cards if we know the CVV number which is on the back
 of all cards and date of expiry and name of the card holder which are
 printed on the card itself, we can make any number of transactions
 online over any murchant websights. except for some visa varification
 cards and cards of city bank no bank in india does not ask for any pin
 number for making transactions online. in the same way seels too. it
 is our hole responsibility to see that they are properly stored. just
 as we give instructions for  card blocking,  we can give seel blocking
 instructions as they will be provided by banks only with unique codes
 in case they are stolen.
 by any way bio-metric system is always good, but as all of we know it
 takes longer time to get them installed across all parts of our
 country may be years for banking system to implement it across each
 and every corner.


 my intentions are not to criticise any one here, but i am sharing my
 openian.
 srikanth

 On 7/7/08, Ashwani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi friends
 As I suggested earlier Biometric system is the best thing. We should
 strongly place this suggestion in front of Bank as well as IBA.
 - Original Message -
 From: Pamnani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 1:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines


 The problem at present is not of whether a phone call is too much for us
 or
 not but of our security.
 As Harish suggested I am not putting the phone call into the guidelines
 but
 leaving it as it is.
 The only question is should we suggest that our cheques should be
 attested
 or not. If not we can leave it until the IBA suggests it and then
 discuss
 it. If the IBA does not suggest anything then we can insist that the
 Banks
 must expedite for Biometric verification.

 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message -
 From: Ketan Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines


 Though this sounds practical and salutary, knowing the tendencies of
 the
 bank officials, they may not want to accept the new phone verification.
 Also, it may not be possible for us to answer the phone all the time
 and
 thus may lead to delay.
 - Original Message -
 From: Harish Kotian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines


 Hi Rajesh

 This will be like signing all the cheque leaves and expecting the
 blind
 person to take care of it. Would any able bodied person accept such a
 situation? This will certainly be unacceptable. Besides, it won't give
 any
 security to the banks as the blind customer is forced into a situation
 which is intrensically liable for cheating. This would be a very bad
 guidelines.

 A more sensible approach which will provide both security and comfort
 both
 to the customer and the blind is that the bank may seek confirmation
 by
 phone whenever they have doubt about the genuineness of the signature
 on
 the instrument.

 If the customer has high volume of cheque use then the banker knows
 the
 patterns of change of signature and can use the phone option when in
 need.
 If the volume is low, anyway it should not be a big financial drain.

 This can be a prudent practise and this should not go as guidelines.
 Now
 a
 days insisting of carrying a phone is not a big deal.

 I understand, Some banks are already exercising this option.

 So, in the guidelines, we can leave it to the banks to draw their own
 safeguards.

 This could be one option, there could be more and we can keep room for
 it.

 Harish.

 - Original Message -
 From: Rajesh Asudani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 5:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines


 Worries in attestation clause are two:

 1. risk of theft and misuse;

 It can be easily tackled by safe custody which is the responsibility
 of
 customer anyway when it comes to credit card etc. and issuing stop
 payment instruction immediately upon such an occurrence.

 It should be weighed against forgery which would be 

[AI] Jaws Scripts For Skipe Reqd.

[Rajesh Parakh]

Hello friends, 
can anybody give me the link to download jaws scripts for skipe's latest beta 
version and the list of hot keys . thanks in advance. 
best regards, 
rajesh.
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Re: [AI] inactivity after start up

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear Anjali,
Try this, it may work.
go to run and type msconfig and hit enter, then tab to startup and select 
disable all. then restart your computer, jaws will start immediately after 
windows open.
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: Anjali Arora [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] inactivity after start up


 may be.  but jaws begins after a lot of gap after the window sound..it
 leaves me wondering!
 the thing is, it has begun to happen only recently.
 is there something wrong somewhere?
 how can I make the system become faster?
 thanks
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dr. Rohit Trivedi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] inactivity after start up


 The reason may be that your computer tries to run some software in the
 background. perhaps an antivirus or spyware etc
 Rohit
 - Original Message - 
 From: Anjali Arora [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:08 PM
 Subject: [AI] inactivity after start up


 friends,
 my system becomes inactive after start up process is completed.
 it doesn't happen alwaysbut whenever it does I don't know what is 
 the
 best thing to do. I restart the computer from the switch on the cpu.
 please suggest solution and prefered course of action.
 it stops after jaws begins.
 can anyone explain this and suggest what should be done to keep the
 system
 running with certinity?
 I've noticed that it is beginning to take longer time to boot and to 
 shut
 down.
 help please.
 by the way i update AVG  on daily basis.
 so what's the problem and what's the solution?
 thanks
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Re: [AI] Using spoons, forks, knives and other such cutleries

[Rajesh Parakh]

Right you got to have little bit of patience to practice using them at home
then you will be confident using them outdoors.as sriram has suggested   i
also use two spoons to eat Idlis.
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: Mohammed Asif Iqbal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Using spoons, forks, knives and other such cutleries


 Hi Imran,
 Perfectly a valid questions.  Well this is what I do.
 When I am having pasta or newdles related dish; then I stick in the fork
 and
 then twist fork in the circle two or three times.  Then I take a bite.
 It
 generally works.  It it is meat related dish; then just ask the  person
 who
 is serving to give you boneless and have them pre-cut.it prior to serving
 it.  It just takes little bit of practice and you will master this skills.
 Take care
 Asif

 - Original Message - 
 From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:37 AM
 Subject: [AI] Using spoons, forks, knives and other such cutleries


 Hi

 In fact, today's incident influenced me to write this on access India. It
 was somewhat hillarious, somewhat embarrassing
 After Christmas celebration in our college, I went to have lunch in our
 college caffeteria. Usually I bring my lunch box to college, but today I
 just forgot it at home. So, I and some of my friends went to caffeteria
 along with our Economics ma'm. Sitting on a seat in front of a circular
 granite table, I childishly said noodles, when my friends asked me what
 I
 wanted to have. I gave the money to my friend, and he brought me a plate
 of
 noodles.
 It contained two disposable plastic forks, and boy, I thought this time I
 am
 caught! No, not this time, I said to myself, I somehow ought to give my
 best shot, best impression! and its going to work, somehow its going to
 work.. After thus assuring myself, I started on my own. I'm not going to
 narrate what happened then, but I ended up lying them that the food was
 not
 tasty and I then returned to classroom.
 First of all, it was embarrassing to discuss any kind of issue like this
 on
 the list, but I have overcome such embarrassment. As is the case, I would
 like to know some of your tips of using cutleries, like spoons, forks,
 knives etc properly, in front of sighted folks.
Yes, one can always use their hands to have the food, but I think we
 too
 are entitled to eat attractively. If not attractively, at least to save
 the time of washing our hands after the meal, we need to use such things.

 With best regards
 Syed Imran
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Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear Abhijeet,
it's indeed shocking. but we will have to face such kind of incidents in 
future because as the life is getting faster people are becoming feelingless 
for others and are bothered about themselves. so just care a damm.
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: Abhijit Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM
Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore


 Hello friends,
Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have been 
 to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him.

Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the 
 common people are showing  negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing 
 just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much 
 achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society.
1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just 
 forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to 
 that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in 
 local language.blinds always want free service they made for begging 
 only after long argument he gave us the change.

 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after 
 reaching there just we asked in the counter where is the gate? In return 
 the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise begging is not allowed 
 inside then he abused with local language. We have taken action according 
 to the situation.

As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw 
 this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern 
 India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others but 
 this is the first time I experience that all classes  of a high-tech city 
 are showing negative attitude towards a particular category.

'where there is smoke there is fire'  through my experience I can say 
 that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This 
 projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but 
 people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that 
 the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail but 
 if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in long 
 run.

 Where there is the will there is the way.

 With hope
 Abhijit
 Hyderabad
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Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear Abhijeet,
it's indeed shocking. but we will have to face such kind of incidents in
future because as the life is getting faster people are becoming feelingless
for others and are bothered about themselves. so just care a damm.
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: Abhijit Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM
Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore


 Hello friends,
Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have been
 to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him.

Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the
 common people are showing  negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing
 just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much
 achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society.
1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just
 forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to
 that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in
 local language.blinds always want free service they made for begging
 only after long argument he gave us the change.

 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after
 reaching there just we asked in the counter where is the gate? In return
 the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise begging is not allowed
 inside then he abused with local language. We have taken action according
 to the situation.

As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw
 this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern
 India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others but
 this is the first time I experience that all classes  of a high-tech city
 are showing negative attitude towards a particular category.

'where there is smoke there is fire'  through my experience I can say
 that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This
 projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but
 people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that
 the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail but
 if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in long
 run.

 Where there is the will there is the way.

 With hope
 Abhijit
 Hyderabad
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Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore

[Rajesh Parakh]

sorry that the same message has been repeated. i'll take care next time.
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: Abhijit Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM
Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore


 Hello friends,
Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have been 
 to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him.

Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the 
 common people are showing  negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing 
 just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much 
 achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society.
1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just 
 forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to 
 that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in 
 local language.blinds always want free service they made for begging 
 only after long argument he gave us the change.

 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after 
 reaching there just we asked in the counter where is the gate? In return 
 the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise begging is not allowed 
 inside then he abused with local language. We have taken action according 
 to the situation.

As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw 
 this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern 
 India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others but 
 this is the first time I experience that all classes  of a high-tech city 
 are showing negative attitude towards a particular category.

'where there is smoke there is fire'  through my experience I can say 
 that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This 
 projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but 
 people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that 
 the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail but 
 if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in long 
 run.

 Where there is the will there is the way.

 With hope
 Abhijit
 Hyderabad
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Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear Abhijeet,
it's indeed shocking. but we will have to face such kind of incidents in
future because as the life is getting faster people are becoming feelingless
for others and are bothered about themselves. so just care a damm.
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: Abhijit Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM
Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore


 Hello friends,
Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have been
 to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him.

Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the
 common people are showing  negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing
 just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much
 achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society.
1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just
 forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to
 that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in
 local language.blinds always want free service they made for begging
 only after long argument he gave us the change.

 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after
 reaching there just we asked in the counter where is the gate? In return
 the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise begging is not allowed
 inside then he abused with local language. We have taken action according
 to the situation.

As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw
 this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern
 India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others but
 this is the first time I experience that all classes  of a high-tech city
 are showing negative attitude towards a particular category.

'where there is smoke there is fire'  through my experience I can say
 that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This
 projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but
 people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that
 the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail but
 if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in long
 run.

 Where there is the will there is the way.

 With hope
 Abhijit
 Hyderabad
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Re: [AI] [Bulk] online jobs, no startup cost Required.

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear Akhilesh,
can you mail me the details please. my email id is 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Thanks in advance,
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: akhilesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:25 PM
Subject: [Bulk] [AI] online jobs, no startup cost Required.


 Hi all, I was searching some online jobs for so long.

 Everyone asking for the money before starting, and I didn't wanted to
 take any chance for that. I've posted a mail regarding this before,
 and got no response. I've also checked archives, and there is not any
 mails relating to that subject. That's why I'm writing again.

 Okay, I've founded some  online jobs, in which the fee is not required.
 I think, if one will work well, and understand the point that what he,
 or she has to do, and devote some time for this while surfing over the
 net, and checking mails,  can make
 money out of it.
 Most interesting aspect is that there is no startup cost required.
 Since this kind of postings are not aloud in list, I'm not posting full 
 details.

 Interested friends can drop  a mail in my inbox to get details, and
 I'd be happy to contact you.

 I'm so sorry, if I'm posting mail again.
 Happy life, akhilesh.

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[AI] response from kingfisher airlines.

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear friends, 
in response to my mail i recieved a phone call from chairman's office of 
kingfisher airlines and the guy who spoke to me was Mr. Rointon Vasania. he 
expressed sorry for the incident and assured me that such incidents would not 
be entertained hereafter. he also told me that they are in touch with xavior's 
resourse centre, mumbai to conduct awareness programmes for their officials. i 
really can't predict how serious he was but he must have understood well that 
they can't take us for a ride after speaking to me. let's be optimistic and 
keep an on such incidents in future. 
regards, 
rajesh.
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[AI] Shameful incident.

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear Mr.Chairman, 
It's really shame that such incidents occur , i am refering to the incident of 
misbehaviour with our moderater Mr.Harish at Bangalore airport by your 
officials just because he was differently abled by not allowing him to travel 
in the flight to Hyderabad instead giving him the refund. in such a case you 
should have given an undertaking that your airlines is not for differently 
abled. i request you to take this matter seriously and see to it that such 
incidents do not occur in future and i would suggest you to have special 
training programme for your officials for behaving and dealing with differently 
abled for which you can feel free to contact me. 
regards, 
Rajesh Parakh. 
Mobile: 09940314234.
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Re: [AI] Self Introduction

[Rajesh Parakh]

Hai Kameshwari,
welcome on board Access India.you will surely be benefited with the
discussions.
regards,
rajesh.
MoB:9940314234.
- Original Message - 
From: kameshwari rao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:21 PM
Subject: [AI] Self Introduction


Hi friends,
I have recently joined the Access India family hence I wish to give a brief
introduction of myself.
I'am congenitally blind. I was initially educated at Little Flower Conment,
Chennai and Nab Delhi. I continued my education at Nagpur. I'am a graduate
of
commerce from Nagpur university.
I later on pursued a diploma course in Advansed Computer Programming from
NAB Bangalore.
Presently I'am working with IBM Bangalore as a service coordinator.
My interests include reading magazines, mystry and adventurous novels,
developing a healthy friends circle, music etc.
I hope the Access India family will help in enriching my knowledge as well
as develop new and a healthy friend circle.
thanks.
Kameshwari Rao.


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[AI] Useful short cuts of XL.

[Rajesh Parakh]

Hello Friends, 
Here are some useful shortcuts of XL taken from tutorials by John Wilson. i 
found them really handy. 
4.1. Keyboard Shortcuts and Hot Keys for Excel

I strongly recommend that you carefully study the training tapes
which come with your particular screenreader to accustom yourself
with the specialist shortcuts for operating a spreadsheet which
it provides. Nonetheless, I have provided below in this section
most of the main and more important screenreader hot keys for the
JAWS, HAL and Window-Eyes screenreaders, plus a list of Excel's
own hot keys for navigating in and carrying out commands in
spreadsheets.

4.2. Excel General Shortcuts
 
Whether the below hot keys do anything when you press them will,
of course, depend on what type of worksheet environment you are
in, what stage you are at and whether or not you have highlighted
any cells, etc.

This is a short list of Excel's own most useful and frequently
used shortcuts which should prove particularly helpful for those
who prefer shortcut keystrokes over using menu choices. However,
it is a fraction only of the Excel general shortcuts. For a more
exhaustive list of these shortcuts, see Appendix 1.

Press BACKSPACE: To delete the character to the left of the
insertion point.

Press F1: To invoke Excel's online help system.

Press F2: To be able to edit the contents of the current cell.

Press F8: To turn on extending a selection by using the ARROW
keys.

Press F11: To create a chart which uses the current range.

Press F7: To invoke the spell-checker for any text in your
spreadsheet.

Press F9: To calculate all sheets in all open workbooks.

Press right, left, up or down ARROW keys: To move one cell at a
time in any direction. Pressing TAB also moves you one cell at
a time along a row from left to right and SHIFT TAB moves you
backwards. Pressing ENTER after completing a cell moves you down
a row in the current column.

Press PAGE up or down: To move through a spreadsheet upwards or
downwards respectively by 25 lines each press. In some set-ups
this may move you by only 23 lines.

Press ALT =: To generate an auto sum.

Press =: To then be able to type a formula into the current cell.

Press CONTROL SPACEBAR: To highlight/select the whole of the
column the cursor is currently in.

Press SHIFT SPACEBAR: To highlight/select the entire row the
cursor is in.

Press ALT ENTER: to insert a carriage return and start a new line
in the same cell.

Press CONTROL F: To bring up the find dialogue box.

Press CONTROL 1: To display the format cells dialogue box. 

Press CONTROL with any of the ARROW keys: To move to the edge of
data regions, e.g. CONTROL down ARROW when in the middle of row
D of a page with several rows in it will jump you to the last
cell in row D with data in it.

Press CONTROL PAGE down: To switch to the next spreadsheet page
including any with charts on them.

Press CONTROL PAGE up: Opposite of the above.

Press ALT PAGE down: To move right one screenful of information,
which will normally mean jumping 11 rows to your right each time
you do this.

Press HOME: To jump to the beginning of the current row.

Press END and then left ARROW: To jump to the end of the current
row.

Press CONTROL HOME: to jump to Cell A1.

Press CONTROL END: to jump to the last cell in your current data
range.

Press CONTROL ;: To insert the date in the current cell.

Press CONTROL SHIFT 7: To obtain a border format outline.

Press CONTROL SHIFT -: To remove a border.

Press CONTROL SHIFT ;: to insert the time.

Press CONTROL `: to toggle displaying formulae or values, i.e.
displaying a formula in a cell or the results of that formula.

Press CONTROL N: to open a new workbook.

Press SHIFT F11: To insert a new Excel worksheet.

Press CONTROL SHIFT SPACEBAR: To highlight all objects.

Press CONTROL SHIFT !: To invoke two decimal place format.

Press CONTROL SHIFT : to generate an outline border around the
worksheet.

Press CONTROL SHIFT _: To remove borders.

Press CONTROL SHIFT 8: To highlight the whole region of the
worksheet data.

Press CONTROL SHIFT ~: To obtain general number format.

Press SHIFT up, down, left or right ARROW: To highlight/select
cells as you go.

Note 1: You can use the standard Windows highlighting methods to
highlight/select text in cells, i.e. combinations of CONTROL,
SHIFT, the ARROW keys and the HOME and END keys, e.g. CONTROL
SHIFT PAGE up to select one screen of information, SHIFT HOME to
select from the beginning of the current row to the cell the
cursor is currently in, CONTROL SHIFT END to select from the
current cursor position to the end of the worksheet, etc.

Note 2: The standard Windows shortcuts for copying to the
Clipboard, pasting, etc, all work as normal, e.g. CONTROL C,
CONTROL X AND CONTROL V.

4.3. JAWS 4, 4.5, 5 and 6 Special Spreadsheet Hot Keys

As you move to a new cell, JAWS will automatically read out the
cell's contents and the column and row co-ordinates.

Press ALT 1: To hear the contents of the first 

[AI] Useful short cuts of XL.

[Rajesh Parakh]

Hello Friends, 
Here are some useful shortcuts of XL taken from tutorials by John Wilson. i 
found them really handy. 
4.1. Keyboard Shortcuts and Hot Keys for Excel

I strongly recommend that you carefully study the training tapes
which come with your particular screenreader to accustom yourself
with the specialist shortcuts for operating a spreadsheet which
it provides. Nonetheless, I have provided below in this section
most of the main and more important screenreader hot keys for the
JAWS, HAL and Window-Eyes screenreaders, plus a list of Excel's
own hot keys for navigating in and carrying out commands in
spreadsheets.

4.2. Excel General Shortcuts
 
Whether the below hot keys do anything when you press them will,
of course, depend on what type of worksheet environment you are
in, what stage you are at and whether or not you have highlighted
any cells, etc.

This is a short list of Excel's own most useful and frequently
used shortcuts which should prove particularly helpful for those
who prefer shortcut keystrokes over using menu choices. However,
it is a fraction only of the Excel general shortcuts. For a more
exhaustive list of these shortcuts, see Appendix 1.

Press BACKSPACE: To delete the character to the left of the
insertion point.

Press F1: To invoke Excel's online help system.

Press F2: To be able to edit the contents of the current cell.

Press F8: To turn on extending a selection by using the ARROW
keys.

Press F11: To create a chart which uses the current range.

Press F7: To invoke the spell-checker for any text in your
spreadsheet.

Press F9: To calculate all sheets in all open workbooks.

Press right, left, up or down ARROW keys: To move one cell at a
time in any direction. Pressing TAB also moves you one cell at
a time along a row from left to right and SHIFT TAB moves you
backwards. Pressing ENTER after completing a cell moves you down
a row in the current column.

Press PAGE up or down: To move through a spreadsheet upwards or
downwards respectively by 25 lines each press. In some set-ups
this may move you by only 23 lines.

Press ALT =: To generate an auto sum.

Press =: To then be able to type a formula into the current cell.

Press CONTROL SPACEBAR: To highlight/select the whole of the
column the cursor is currently in.

Press SHIFT SPACEBAR: To highlight/select the entire row the
cursor is in.

Press ALT ENTER: to insert a carriage return and start a new line
in the same cell.

Press CONTROL F: To bring up the find dialogue box.

Press CONTROL 1: To display the format cells dialogue box. 

Press CONTROL with any of the ARROW keys: To move to the edge of
data regions, e.g. CONTROL down ARROW when in the middle of row
D of a page with several rows in it will jump you to the last
cell in row D with data in it.

Press CONTROL PAGE down: To switch to the next spreadsheet page
including any with charts on them.

Press CONTROL PAGE up: Opposite of the above.

Press ALT PAGE down: To move right one screenful of information,
which will normally mean jumping 11 rows to your right each time
you do this.

Press HOME: To jump to the beginning of the current row.

Press END and then left ARROW: To jump to the end of the current
row.

Press CONTROL HOME: to jump to Cell A1.

Press CONTROL END: to jump to the last cell in your current data
range.

Press CONTROL ;: To insert the date in the current cell.

Press CONTROL SHIFT 7: To obtain a border format outline.

Press CONTROL SHIFT -: To remove a border.

Press CONTROL SHIFT ;: to insert the time.

Press CONTROL `: to toggle displaying formulae or values, i.e.
displaying a formula in a cell or the results of that formula.

Press CONTROL N: to open a new workbook.

Press SHIFT F11: To insert a new Excel worksheet.

Press CONTROL SHIFT SPACEBAR: To highlight all objects.

Press CONTROL SHIFT !: To invoke two decimal place format.

Press CONTROL SHIFT : to generate an outline border around the
worksheet.

Press CONTROL SHIFT _: To remove borders.

Press CONTROL SHIFT 8: To highlight the whole region of the
worksheet data.

Press CONTROL SHIFT ~: To obtain general number format.

Press SHIFT up, down, left or right ARROW: To highlight/select
cells as you go.

Note 1: You can use the standard Windows highlighting methods to
highlight/select text in cells, i.e. combinations of CONTROL,
SHIFT, the ARROW keys and the HOME and END keys, e.g. CONTROL
SHIFT PAGE up to select one screen of information, SHIFT HOME to
select from the beginning of the current row to the cell the
cursor is currently in, CONTROL SHIFT END to select from the
current cursor position to the end of the worksheet, etc.

Note 2: The standard Windows shortcuts for copying to the
Clipboard, pasting, etc, all work as normal, e.g. CONTROL C,
CONTROL X AND CONTROL V.

4.3. JAWS 4, 4.5, 5 and 6 Special Spreadsheet Hot Keys

As you move to a new cell, JAWS will automatically read out the
cell's contents and the column and row co-ordinates.

Press ALT 1: To hear the contents of the first 

Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English, Hindi and Commerce - South Delhi

[Rajesh Parakh]

i am sorry. i hope it doesn't repeat again.
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: Ashwani Jassal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Why same message four times? I think only one message is enough. Please do
check your settings before sending something to the group rather then
flooding the portal with your repeated messages.
- Original Message - 
From: Rajesh Parakh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:29 HAPPS
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Dear friend,
There's nothing wrong in taking money, afterall she has to run her
consultancy, isnt it. she informs the candidate in advance before the
candidate goes for an interview and if the company pays her then she doesnt
charge the candidate. why we want things free or in form of concessions. we
must come out of this mentality if we have to sustain in this competitive
world.
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: Dheeraj Bhola [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zujar Kanchwala [EMAIL PROTECTED];
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hello sir, Before year or two She has called VI peoples who are interested
in JOBS. And in that conference She told us that, One month celery will be
taken from those candidate who will be placed by her consultancy.
regards
Dheeraj
- Original Message - 
From: Zujar Kanchwala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hi,

She has not taken money in any form from me for forwarding me the vacancy
for a SE at MPHASIS. I have joined MPHASIS in January this year and if
Anubhuti wanted money, five months is not a small period of time that has
passed.

You say I think She takes money from
those candidate who are selected by her consultancy. Confirm your thoughts
and then put them forth in front of such a large audience.

No ill feelings and controversies, please.

Thjanks and Regards.


On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 Dheeraj Bhola wrote :
Hello Ashwani, As far as my knowledge goes, I think She takes money from
those candidate who are selected by her consultancy. Please correct me if
i'm rong.
Regards
Dheeraj
- Original Message -
 From: Ashwani Jassal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED];
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hi friends
I want to add something here that she hasn't taken any money from the
candidate who has been selected through this channel. I think we should be
united at this front rather then giving different statements everyday.
- Original Message -
 From: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:51 HAPPY
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


That's well said!
I would like to add one more point to this discussion, if we suspect the
behavioral pattern of consultancy firms then why they will give so much of
publicity to the existence of a vacancy? Coruption and secrecy always live
side-by-side.   Finding A Blind or disabled candidate who can pay them is
not gigantic task. Don't we need some introspection? Believe me,  It is
easier to raise doubts than arranging a well paid job for a disabled
on! - Original Message -
 From: rajesh asudani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


That is precisely the point.

Advertisement in Hindustan times proves my point about fair norms of
recruitment. Now, if in addition to this, the assistance of recruitment
firm
is sought, and it forwards a notice to all the interested/deserving, which
is normally not done by financially motivated firms who offer candidates
 from their already existing clients, why should it be an eyesore to those
who are well placed and perhaps  oblivious of never ending struggle put up
by those in search of livelihood plagued with a disability.

Let us not forget the hard facts of life like:

1. Any so-called public advertisement is necessarily confined to a single
local or at best national paper.

2. HR firms, as a rule, are financially  motivated and offer their existing
clients and never go out of the way to acquaint the eligible/desirable
disabled candidates.

3. Legal hair splitting serves no purpose, and believe my friends, it is
not
our cup of tea to fight legal battles for every deviation from the norm,
which incidentally in this case  does

Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English, Hindi and Commerce - South Delhi

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear friend,
There's nothing wrong in taking money, afterall she has to run her
consultancy, isnt it. she informs the candidate in advance before the
candidate goes for an interview and if the company pays her then she doesnt
charge the candidate. why we want things free or in form of concessions. we
must come out of this mentality if we have to sustain in this competitive
world.
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: Dheeraj Bhola [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zujar Kanchwala [EMAIL PROTECTED];
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hello sir, Before year or two She has called VI peoples who are interested
in JOBS. And in that conference She told us that, One month celery will be
taken from those candidate who will be placed by her consultancy.
regards
Dheeraj
- Original Message - 
From: Zujar Kanchwala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hi,

She has not taken money in any form from me for forwarding me the vacancy
for a SE at MPHASIS. I have joined MPHASIS in January this year and if
Anubhuti wanted money, five months is not a small period of time that has
passed.

You say I think She takes money from
those candidate who are selected by her consultancy. Confirm your thoughts
and then put them forth in front of such a large audience.

No ill feelings and controversies, please.

Thjanks and Regards.


On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 Dheeraj Bhola wrote :
Hello Ashwani, As far as my knowledge goes, I think She takes money from
those candidate who are selected by her consultancy. Please correct me if
i'm rong.
Regards
Dheeraj
- Original Message -
 From: Ashwani Jassal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED];
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hi friends
I want to add something here that she hasn't taken any money from the
candidate who has been selected through this channel. I think we should be
united at this front rather then giving different statements everyday.
- Original Message -
 From: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:51 HAPPY
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


That's well said!
I would like to add one more point to this discussion, if we suspect the
behavioral pattern of consultancy firms then why they will give so much of
publicity to the existence of a vacancy? Coruption and secrecy always live
side-by-side.   Finding A Blind or disabled candidate who can pay them is
not gigantic task. Don't we need some introspection? Believe me,  It is
easier to raise doubts than arranging a well paid job for a disabled
on! - Original Message -
 From: rajesh asudani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


That is precisely the point.

Advertisement in Hindustan times proves my point about fair norms of
recruitment. Now, if in addition to this, the assistance of recruitment
firm
is sought, and it forwards a notice to all the interested/deserving, which
is normally not done by financially motivated firms who offer candidates
 from their already existing clients, why should it be an eyesore to those
who are well placed and perhaps  oblivious of never ending struggle put up
by those in search of livelihood plagued with a disability.

Let us not forget the hard facts of life like:

1. Any so-called public advertisement is necessarily confined to a single
local or at best national paper.

2. HR firms, as a rule, are financially  motivated and offer their existing
clients and never go out of the way to acquaint the eligible/desirable
disabled candidates.

3. Legal hair splitting serves no purpose, and believe my friends, it is
not
our cup of tea to fight legal battles for every deviation from the norm,
which incidentally in this case  does not seem to have happened.

4. The beneficiaries of any assistance offered need not at all be
subservient to the person offering the benefit, however, they also should
not forfeit dignity while raising some issues or seeking clarifications or
offering suggestions.

Regards

Rajesh
- Original Message -
 From: Prashant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hello Accessindia
I have checked my mail after a while  I am shocked to see the response to
my forwarded message.
I had forwarded this message  hoping that it might benifit someone; some
eligible candidates will 

Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English, Hindi and Commerce - South Delhi

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear friend,
There's nothing wrong in taking money, afterall she has to run her
consultancy, isnt it. she informs the candidate in advance before the
candidate goes for an interview and if the company pays her then she doesnt
charge the candidate. why we want things free or in form of concessions. we
must come out of this mentality if we have to sustain in this competitive
world.
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: Dheeraj Bhola [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zujar Kanchwala [EMAIL PROTECTED];
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hello sir, Before year or two She has called VI peoples who are interested
in JOBS. And in that conference She told us that, One month celery will be
taken from those candidate who will be placed by her consultancy.
regards
Dheeraj
- Original Message - 
From: Zujar Kanchwala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hi,

She has not taken money in any form from me for forwarding me the vacancy
for a SE at MPHASIS. I have joined MPHASIS in January this year and if
Anubhuti wanted money, five months is not a small period of time that has
passed.

You say I think She takes money from
those candidate who are selected by her consultancy. Confirm your thoughts
and then put them forth in front of such a large audience.

No ill feelings and controversies, please.

Thjanks and Regards.


On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 Dheeraj Bhola wrote :
Hello Ashwani, As far as my knowledge goes, I think She takes money from
those candidate who are selected by her consultancy. Please correct me if
i'm rong.
Regards
Dheeraj
- Original Message -
 From: Ashwani Jassal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED];
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hi friends
I want to add something here that she hasn't taken any money from the
candidate who has been selected through this channel. I think we should be
united at this front rather then giving different statements everyday.
- Original Message -
 From: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:51 HAPPY
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


That's well said!
I would like to add one more point to this discussion, if we suspect the
behavioral pattern of consultancy firms then why they will give so much of
publicity to the existence of a vacancy? Coruption and secrecy always live
side-by-side.   Finding A Blind or disabled candidate who can pay them is
not gigantic task. Don't we need some introspection? Believe me,  It is
easier to raise doubts than arranging a well paid job for a disabled
on! - Original Message -
 From: rajesh asudani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


That is precisely the point.

Advertisement in Hindustan times proves my point about fair norms of
recruitment. Now, if in addition to this, the assistance of recruitment
firm
is sought, and it forwards a notice to all the interested/deserving, which
is normally not done by financially motivated firms who offer candidates
 from their already existing clients, why should it be an eyesore to those
who are well placed and perhaps  oblivious of never ending struggle put up
by those in search of livelihood plagued with a disability.

Let us not forget the hard facts of life like:

1. Any so-called public advertisement is necessarily confined to a single
local or at best national paper.

2. HR firms, as a rule, are financially  motivated and offer their existing
clients and never go out of the way to acquaint the eligible/desirable
disabled candidates.

3. Legal hair splitting serves no purpose, and believe my friends, it is
not
our cup of tea to fight legal battles for every deviation from the norm,
which incidentally in this case  does not seem to have happened.

4. The beneficiaries of any assistance offered need not at all be
subservient to the person offering the benefit, however, they also should
not forfeit dignity while raising some issues or seeking clarifications or
offering suggestions.

Regards

Rajesh
- Original Message -
 From: Prashant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hello Accessindia
I have checked my mail after a while  I am shocked to see the response to
my forwarded message.
I had forwarded this message  hoping that it might benifit someone; some
eligible candidates will 

Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English, Hindi and Commerce - South Delhi

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear friend,
There's nothing wrong in taking money, afterall she has to run her
consultancy, isnt it. she informs the candidate in advance before the
candidate goes for an interview and if the company pays her then she doesnt
charge the candidate. why we want things free or in form of concessions. we
must come out of this mentality if we have to sustain in this competitive
world.
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: Dheeraj Bhola [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zujar Kanchwala [EMAIL PROTECTED];
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hello sir, Before year or two She has called VI peoples who are interested
in JOBS. And in that conference She told us that, One month celery will be
taken from those candidate who will be placed by her consultancy.
regards
Dheeraj
- Original Message - 
From: Zujar Kanchwala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hi,

She has not taken money in any form from me for forwarding me the vacancy
for a SE at MPHASIS. I have joined MPHASIS in January this year and if
Anubhuti wanted money, five months is not a small period of time that has
passed.

You say I think She takes money from
those candidate who are selected by her consultancy. Confirm your thoughts
and then put them forth in front of such a large audience.

No ill feelings and controversies, please.

Thjanks and Regards.


On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 Dheeraj Bhola wrote :
Hello Ashwani, As far as my knowledge goes, I think She takes money from
those candidate who are selected by her consultancy. Please correct me if
i'm rong.
Regards
Dheeraj
- Original Message -
 From: Ashwani Jassal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED];
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hi friends
I want to add something here that she hasn't taken any money from the
candidate who has been selected through this channel. I think we should be
united at this front rather then giving different statements everyday.
- Original Message -
 From: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:51 HAPPY
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


That's well said!
I would like to add one more point to this discussion, if we suspect the
behavioral pattern of consultancy firms then why they will give so much of
publicity to the existence of a vacancy? Coruption and secrecy always live
side-by-side.   Finding A Blind or disabled candidate who can pay them is
not gigantic task. Don't we need some introspection? Believe me,  It is
easier to raise doubts than arranging a well paid job for a disabled
on! - Original Message -
 From: rajesh asudani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


That is precisely the point.

Advertisement in Hindustan times proves my point about fair norms of
recruitment. Now, if in addition to this, the assistance of recruitment
firm
is sought, and it forwards a notice to all the interested/deserving, which
is normally not done by financially motivated firms who offer candidates
 from their already existing clients, why should it be an eyesore to those
who are well placed and perhaps  oblivious of never ending struggle put up
by those in search of livelihood plagued with a disability.

Let us not forget the hard facts of life like:

1. Any so-called public advertisement is necessarily confined to a single
local or at best national paper.

2. HR firms, as a rule, are financially  motivated and offer their existing
clients and never go out of the way to acquaint the eligible/desirable
disabled candidates.

3. Legal hair splitting serves no purpose, and believe my friends, it is
not
our cup of tea to fight legal battles for every deviation from the norm,
which incidentally in this case  does not seem to have happened.

4. The beneficiaries of any assistance offered need not at all be
subservient to the person offering the benefit, however, they also should
not forfeit dignity while raising some issues or seeking clarifications or
offering suggestions.

Regards

Rajesh
- Original Message -
 From: Prashant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hello Accessindia
I have checked my mail after a while  I am shocked to see the response to
my forwarded message.
I had forwarded this message  hoping that it might benifit someone; some
eligible candidates 

Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English, Hindi and Commerce - South Delhi

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear friend,
There's nothing wrong in taking money, afterall she has to run her
consultancy, isnt it. she informs the candidate in advance before the
candidate goes for an interview and if the company pays her then she doesnt
charge the candidate. why we want things free or in form of concessions. we
must come out of this mentality if we have to sustain in this competitive
world.
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: Dheeraj Bhola [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zujar Kanchwala [EMAIL PROTECTED];
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hello sir, Before year or two She has called VI peoples who are interested
in JOBS. And in that conference She told us that, One month celery will be
taken from those candidate who will be placed by her consultancy.
regards
Dheeraj
- Original Message - 
From: Zujar Kanchwala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hi,

She has not taken money in any form from me for forwarding me the vacancy
for a SE at MPHASIS. I have joined MPHASIS in January this year and if
Anubhuti wanted money, five months is not a small period of time that has
passed.

You say I think She takes money from
those candidate who are selected by her consultancy. Confirm your thoughts
and then put them forth in front of such a large audience.

No ill feelings and controversies, please.

Thjanks and Regards.


On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 Dheeraj Bhola wrote :
Hello Ashwani, As far as my knowledge goes, I think She takes money from
those candidate who are selected by her consultancy. Please correct me if
i'm rong.
Regards
Dheeraj
- Original Message -
 From: Ashwani Jassal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED];
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hi friends
I want to add something here that she hasn't taken any money from the
candidate who has been selected through this channel. I think we should be
united at this front rather then giving different statements everyday.
- Original Message -
 From: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:51 HAPPY
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


That's well said!
I would like to add one more point to this discussion, if we suspect the
behavioral pattern of consultancy firms then why they will give so much of
publicity to the existence of a vacancy? Coruption and secrecy always live
side-by-side.   Finding A Blind or disabled candidate who can pay them is
not gigantic task. Don't we need some introspection? Believe me,  It is
easier to raise doubts than arranging a well paid job for a disabled
on! - Original Message -
 From: rajesh asudani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


That is precisely the point.

Advertisement in Hindustan times proves my point about fair norms of
recruitment. Now, if in addition to this, the assistance of recruitment
firm
is sought, and it forwards a notice to all the interested/deserving, which
is normally not done by financially motivated firms who offer candidates
 from their already existing clients, why should it be an eyesore to those
who are well placed and perhaps  oblivious of never ending struggle put up
by those in search of livelihood plagued with a disability.

Let us not forget the hard facts of life like:

1. Any so-called public advertisement is necessarily confined to a single
local or at best national paper.

2. HR firms, as a rule, are financially  motivated and offer their existing
clients and never go out of the way to acquaint the eligible/desirable
disabled candidates.

3. Legal hair splitting serves no purpose, and believe my friends, it is
not
our cup of tea to fight legal battles for every deviation from the norm,
which incidentally in this case  does not seem to have happened.

4. The beneficiaries of any assistance offered need not at all be
subservient to the person offering the benefit, however, they also should
not forfeit dignity while raising some issues or seeking clarifications or
offering suggestions.

Regards

Rajesh
- Original Message -
 From: Prashant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Hello Accessindia
I have checked my mail after a while  I am shocked to see the response to
my forwarded message.
I had forwarded this message  hoping that it might benifit someone; some
eligible candidates will 

Re: [AI] vacancies-no controversy

[Rajesh Parakh]

i totally agree to Rajesh's views and also request Anubhuti to reconsider
her decision.
regards,
rajesh.
- Original Message - 
From: rajesh asudani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:52 AM
Subject: [AI] vacancies-no controversy


 Hello Accessindians!

 After going through almost all the messages concerning the controversy of
 regarding a HR agency posting a notice about some lecturer vacancies in a
 south Delhi college, I wish to place my views, without however any
 intention to add fuel to already raging fire:

 1. I see it as an opportunity for anyone desiring to pursue teaching
 career if the news is disseminated in any manner and so notice by a
 private recruitment firm is as welcome as an open advertisement.

 2. As per procedure to be followed by a government agency for recruitment
 in an open and transparent manner, the fact of private placements can not
 be denied even by premier institutions like Reserve Bank of India etc. and
 so, keeping the question of legal validity of such a manner of recruitment
 only through private placement sometimes by government entities,  open to
 be decided by appropriate authorities, the fact of desirability of such an
 information being disseminated whenever such a course is resorted to must
 be acknowledged. And, at any count, the concerned person running a private
 HR agency must not be taken to task for gaining out of such a process, as
 it is their professional endeavors for which they are paid and disability
 does not give us gratuitous passport to services and things for which the
 general consideration is monetary..

 3. Having said this much, the proper course in my opinion is to advertise
 posts in an open manner and solicit the services of private recruitment
 agencies whenever thought fit in addition to an open advertisement. I do
 not know whether such is the norm in government recruitment, but if it is,
 it is the question of fact whether it is followed by the concerned or not.

 4. In summery, legal question is: whether government entities like the
 colleges of DU may solely resort to private placement in filling some
 posts, or they may  employ it as an additional means to open
 advertisements. The factual question is: whether the norm was adhered to..
 Merely flouting the concerned recruitment agency for giving the notice in
 a forum which reaches to many intellectually sophisticated adults, is in
 my view effectively shutting out whatever little channels of information
 are available to the visually impaired.


 However, I would request Anubhuti to reconsider her decision  of
 withdrawing from such a vibrant forum. The question, as I have mentioned
 above, consists of legal and factual point. They may be sorted out by
 proper course. I think the respected members were trying to raise these
 very issues and were also concerned about the absence of an open
 advertisement for filling the post of lecturer in a government college, as
 is the usual course which may reach the maximum numbers and which also
 ensures transparency. However, in my personal opinion, if an open
 advertisement is there in addition to HR firms, it is the fair norm, but
 at the same time the fact of solely private placements by government
 agencies also, can not be ignored.


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 Rajesh
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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Hi

[Rajesh Parakh]

Hai Anubhuti,
welcome on board Access India. we will all be benefited by your endeavours
and pains to persue corporate world to think differently about differently
abled.
regards,
rajesh.
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From: amit bhattt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 5:49 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Hi


 Hi Anubhuti,
 In the high time, when finding the way for career making for a disabled
 person was not that easy, your endeavor to take an innitiate to persuade
 the employers of private companies for providing jobs to disabled friendly
 people, is really awsome!
 If Am not wrong, there are many visually challenged candidates in the
 number of disabled people you have mentioned in your mail.
 150 is a huge figure and we should hope that this number would increse day
 by day and as now you are on the list, job seekers will get the
 information about new opportunities for their career augmentation.
 Great to have you around.
 -- 

 Truly,
 Have a wonderful day ahead!

 Amit Bhatt
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 Mob: +91 935-006-3109

 Success lies not in the result, but in the effort


 Quoting Anubhuti Mittal [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi All!

   I have just joined the group after hearing a lot of good feedback
 about the forum .
   Just a brief introduction - I run a private HR Consultancy firm
 for people with disabilities ...the first of its kind in the
 country . We have been in operation for last two years and have
 successfully found employment for around 150+ people across
 disabilities.
   Look forward to interaction with this group
   -- 
 Thanks
 Anubhuti
   www.anubhuti.biz



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Re: [AI] about talking typing tutor

[Rajesh Parakh]

Dear Pranav,
Thanks a lot. i will download and get back to you.
regards,
rajesh.
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[AI] about talking typing tutor

[Rajesh Parakh]

Hai Guys, 
Holi greetings to all of you. can anybody give me the link of talking typing 
tutor? early response will be highly appreciable. 
thanks in advance, 
regards, 
rajesh.
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