Re: [AI] A brush with the white cane
yes, it's almost possible. i have also taken mobility training from same institute. really, very nice experience. After learning all techniques, when i walked alone on the rode of benglor, i could visualize all things with closed eyes. after all, for late blind, visualization must be required while walking. but it's very hard but not inpossible. After takeing this training, i have also travelled alone by train. the journey was about 10 hours. it means confidence also must be required. but after learning all techniques of mobility, practise must be required. Original Message - From: "payal kapoor" To: Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [AI] A brush with the white cane hi vamshi the training can definitely be obtained in 5 days time because what we are looking for here is the correct technique and the confidence to carry it through. that under the able guidance of a good instructor and an open and positive mind is sufficient to get to the required goal. also, you need to understand that if we are unergoing training in our own cities, the familiarization and orientation to various used routes, modes of transport etc would be worked upon in detail. on the other hand, of what use is it in a different city, after having learned the technique and attained the necessary confidence, to go on walking their streets because you need to ultimately customise it to suit your needs in your city. 5 days for me does not mean the same for all else. it could be shorter or longer.. each to their own. - Original Message - From: "Vamshi. G" To: Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [AI] A brush with the white cane Hi Payal, Thanks for a wonderful mail. You have slammed persons like me, who are gradually loosing vision and are still hesitant to start using a white cane. I must accept that I'm one of those persons who feels using white cane is humiliating just because of the reason that I've still got some vision. But the doubt I've got is that when I visited NAB, Banglore in 2006, they said duration of mobility training course is 45 days but you've taken it in just 5 days. Is it really possible to undergo mobility training in such short duration? Awaiting guidance from all my seniors in this regard. -- G. Vamshi PH Res : +91 877-2243861 Mobile: +91 9949349497 E-mail ID: gvamsh...@gmail.com Skype: gvamshi81 God helps those who help themselves On 9/17/09, payal kapoor wrote: dear all At the outset, i would like to apologise to everyone for this lengthy mail, but could not manage it in lesser.. i would like to share with you some information and my experience with the formidable "white cane". Mobility is an essential part of everyone's life. it becomes difficult for us as visually impaired and more important than ever before. but, do we give ourselves the opportunity to experience it? most of us shy away from using the white cane that is specifically meant to serve the purpose of replacing the missing sight, if used with the right techniques. i have been one to never be able to use the cane for various reasons. firstly having been sighted, i am well aware of the perils of being out on our roads, and the vanity factor has always come in the way. having gone on all these years in this way, i reached a stage where i felt the strings holding me down. unavailability of assistance when required and the urgency to have things done put an abrupt end to all these factors. i decided to go on and equip myself with this essential skill and made a trip to Mitra Jyothi in Bangalore for a 5 day programme in Outdoor mobility. this was customised to suit my need and the time i had available on hand. it was an experience i will never forget. from the word go, my instructor, Ms Sundari nudged me on gently but firmly onto moving on my own. the inputs were positive and not assertive which makes the likes of us that are skeptical about it, accept it with more ease.holding the cane and moving with it was something else. the encouragement and constant support made me move on quicker. tentative steps became more confident and small ones became strides. the feeling was liberating and exhilerating. i had never thoughht i would feel that way. gone was the fear and hesitation and it was replaced with a new self confidence. this did not last only for the time when my instructor was with me, but also through the journey on my own onto the busy road wit traffic on one side and the inevitable open drains on the other. made me wonder why had i not done this before. a lot of us have opportunities that come our way but hesitate to take them on only because we are not sure of how to get there. i endorse once again the best way is to find the right persons to assist you and pick the white cane to make it a friend and not something to keep away so far away that you don
Re: [AI] A brush with the white cane
hi vamshi the training can definitely be obtained in 5 days time because what we are looking for here is the correct technique and the confidence to carry it through. that under the able guidance of a good instructor and an open and positive mind is sufficient to get to the required goal. also, you need to understand that if we are unergoing training in our own cities, the familiarization and orientation to various used routes, modes of transport etc would be worked upon in detail. on the other hand, of what use is it in a different city, after having learned the technique and attained the necessary confidence, to go on walking their streets because you need to ultimately customise it to suit your needs in your city. 5 days for me does not mean the same for all else. it could be shorter or longer.. each to their own. - Original Message - From: "Vamshi. G" To: Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [AI] A brush with the white cane Hi Payal, Thanks for a wonderful mail. You have slammed persons like me, who are gradually loosing vision and are still hesitant to start using a white cane. I must accept that I'm one of those persons who feels using white cane is humiliating just because of the reason that I've still got some vision. But the doubt I've got is that when I visited NAB, Banglore in 2006, they said duration of mobility training course is 45 days but you've taken it in just 5 days. Is it really possible to undergo mobility training in such short duration? Awaiting guidance from all my seniors in this regard. -- G. Vamshi PH Res : +91 877-2243861 Mobile: +91 9949349497 E-mail ID: gvamsh...@gmail.com Skype: gvamshi81 God helps those who help themselves On 9/17/09, payal kapoor wrote: dear all At the outset, i would like to apologise to everyone for this lengthy mail, but could not manage it in lesser.. i would like to share with you some information and my experience with the formidable "white cane". Mobility is an essential part of everyone's life. it becomes difficult for us as visually impaired and more important than ever before. but, do we give ourselves the opportunity to experience it? most of us shy away from using the white cane that is specifically meant to serve the purpose of replacing the missing sight, if used with the right techniques. i have been one to never be able to use the cane for various reasons. firstly having been sighted, i am well aware of the perils of being out on our roads, and the vanity factor has always come in the way. having gone on all these years in this way, i reached a stage where i felt the strings holding me down. unavailability of assistance when required and the urgency to have things done put an abrupt end to all these factors. i decided to go on and equip myself with this essential skill and made a trip to Mitra Jyothi in Bangalore for a 5 day programme in Outdoor mobility. this was customised to suit my need and the time i had available on hand. it was an experience i will never forget. from the word go, my instructor, Ms Sundari nudged me on gently but firmly onto moving on my own. the inputs were positive and not assertive which makes the likes of us that are skeptical about it, accept it with more ease.holding the cane and moving with it was something else. the encouragement and constant support made me move on quicker. tentative steps became more confident and small ones became strides. the feeling was liberating and exhilerating. i had never thoughht i would feel that way. gone was the fear and hesitation and it was replaced with a new self confidence. this did not last only for the time when my instructor was with me, but also through the journey on my own onto the busy road wit traffic on one side and the inevitable open drains on the other. made me wonder why had i not done this before. a lot of us have opportunities that come our way but hesitate to take them on only because we are not sure of how to get there. i endorse once again the best way is to find the right persons to assist you and pick the white cane to make it a friend and not something to keep away so far away that you don't see it and so don't need to use it, exactly as i had done. the feeling at the end of it all is well worth everything! Warm Regards, Payal Kapoor | The Residence Hyderabad | |Direct: +91 9490939739 | Phone: +91 40 6633 6644 | Fax: +91 40 6633 6650 | | 5-4-187/5 |S M Modi Complex, Karbala Maidan | | Necklace Road (Ranigunj) | Secunderabad | AP | India | | Email: payal.thereside...@gmail.com| www.residences.co.in | utell To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] A brush with the white cane
I know what you are talking about, but don't say things for which you don't have any proof. I was intimately involved in the issue you had mentioned --as a journalist-- and I can tell from my investigations that the allegations are entirely baseless. Don't say things that would tarnish the reputation of an institution which has helped 3500 people from 1982 to learn mobility. Besides, since NAB is the only exclusive department where mobility at least were South India is concerned, is taught we need their help to brush up mobility, which they do for free. I don't want people to mistake as an advocate of NAB, but am talking from facts. Sorry for the off topic discussion. I am closing it now and here. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Naushad Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 8:26 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] A brush with the white cane NAB is a dangerous institution for blinds, because I stayed one year in NAB Karnataka. They considering blind students as senseless animals and exploiting them by all means, even sexually. I know such cases during my period in nab. Especially to girls, stay away from this institution. Look forward to Enable India or mitrajyothi, they are safe. On 9/20/2009 5:16 PM, Subramani L wrote: > Hai Vamshi: > > Let me answer you --first of all as someone who had lost site by about > my 18th year, I know how difficult or least uncomfortable for someone > with low vision to pick up a cane and try mobility. Actually mobility > for low vision persons involves different sets of techniques which use > both the residual sight and also the white cane wherever appropriate. > So, probably you must approach low vision trainers. Incidentally, NAB > Karnataka has a low vision centre with all possible training and > technological aids for the low vision persons. Prhaps you can give it a > try. > > Secondly, though 45 days is the prescribed duration, NAB, or Mitrajyothi > for that matter, are aware that professionals and school/college > students may have brief intervals to -learn mobility. Since there is a > great deal to practice than to learn, I feel it is possible to > fast-track training under certain circumstances. I am not answering the > query for NAB and MJ, but this is strictly my understanding. > > Subramani > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:53 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] A brush with the white cane > > Hi Payal, > > Thanks for a wonderful mail. You have slammed persons like me, who > are gradually loosing vision and are still hesitant to start using a > white cane. I must accept that I'm one of those persons who feels > using white cane is humiliating just because of the reason that I've > still got some vision. > > But the doubt I've got is that when I visited NAB, Banglore in 2006, > they said duration of mobility training course is 45 days but you've > taken it in just 5 days. Is it really possible to undergo mobility > training in such short duration? > > Awaiting guidance from all my seniors in this regard. > > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n Email secured by TPML Raksha Checkpoint To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] A brush with the white cane
NAB is a dangerous institution for blinds, because I stayed one year in NAB Karnataka. They considering blind students as senseless animals and exploiting them by all means, even sexually. I know such cases during my period in nab. Especially to girls, stay away from this institution. Look forward to Enable India or mitrajyothi, they are safe. On 9/20/2009 5:16 PM, Subramani L wrote: Hai Vamshi: Let me answer you --first of all as someone who had lost site by about my 18th year, I know how difficult or least uncomfortable for someone with low vision to pick up a cane and try mobility. Actually mobility for low vision persons involves different sets of techniques which use both the residual sight and also the white cane wherever appropriate. So, probably you must approach low vision trainers. Incidentally, NAB Karnataka has a low vision centre with all possible training and technological aids for the low vision persons. Prhaps you can give it a try. Secondly, though 45 days is the prescribed duration, NAB, or Mitrajyothi for that matter, are aware that professionals and school/college students may have brief intervals to -learn mobility. Since there is a great deal to practice than to learn, I feel it is possible to fast-track training under certain circumstances. I am not answering the query for NAB and MJ, but this is strictly my understanding. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:53 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] A brush with the white cane Hi Payal, Thanks for a wonderful mail. You have slammed persons like me, who are gradually loosing vision and are still hesitant to start using a white cane. I must accept that I'm one of those persons who feels using white cane is humiliating just because of the reason that I've still got some vision. But the doubt I've got is that when I visited NAB, Banglore in 2006, they said duration of mobility training course is 45 days but you've taken it in just 5 days. Is it really possible to undergo mobility training in such short duration? Awaiting guidance from all my seniors in this regard. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] A brush with the white cane
Hai Vamshi: Let me answer you --first of all as someone who had lost site by about my 18th year, I know how difficult or least uncomfortable for someone with low vision to pick up a cane and try mobility. Actually mobility for low vision persons involves different sets of techniques which use both the residual sight and also the white cane wherever appropriate. So, probably you must approach low vision trainers. Incidentally, NAB Karnataka has a low vision centre with all possible training and technological aids for the low vision persons. Prhaps you can give it a try. Secondly, though 45 days is the prescribed duration, NAB, or Mitrajyothi for that matter, are aware that professionals and school/college students may have brief intervals to -learn mobility. Since there is a great deal to practice than to learn, I feel it is possible to fast-track training under certain circumstances. I am not answering the query for NAB and MJ, but this is strictly my understanding. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:53 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] A brush with the white cane Hi Payal, Thanks for a wonderful mail. You have slammed persons like me, who are gradually loosing vision and are still hesitant to start using a white cane. I must accept that I'm one of those persons who feels using white cane is humiliating just because of the reason that I've still got some vision. But the doubt I've got is that when I visited NAB, Banglore in 2006, they said duration of mobility training course is 45 days but you've taken it in just 5 days. Is it really possible to undergo mobility training in such short duration? Awaiting guidance from all my seniors in this regard. -- G. Vamshi PH Res : +91 877-2243861 Mobile: +91 9949349497 E-mail ID: gvamsh...@gmail.com Skype: gvamshi81 God helps those who help themselves On 9/17/09, payal kapoor wrote: > dear all > > At the outset, i would like to apologise to everyone for this lengthy mail, > but could not manage it in lesser.. > > i would like to share with you some information and my experience with the > formidable "white cane". Mobility is an essential part of everyone's life. > it becomes difficult for us as visually impaired and more important than > ever before. but, do we give ourselves the opportunity to experience it? > most of us shy away from using the white cane that is specifically meant to > serve the purpose of replacing the missing sight, if used with the right > techniques. > i have been one to never be able to use the cane for various reasons. > firstly having been sighted, i am well aware of the perils of being out on > our roads, and the vanity factor has always come in the way. having gone on > all these years in this way, i reached a stage where i felt the strings > holding me down. unavailability of assistance when required and the urgency > to have things done put an abrupt end to all these factors. i decided to go > on and equip myself with this essential skill and made a trip to Mitra > Jyothi in Bangalore for a 5 day programme in Outdoor mobility. this was > customised to suit my need and the time i had available on hand. it was an > experience i will never forget. from the word go, my instructor, Ms Sundari > nudged me on gently but firmly onto moving on my own. the inputs were > positive and not assertive which makes the likes of us that are skeptical > about it, accept it with more ease.holding the cane and moving with it was > something else. the encouragement and constant support made me move on > quicker. tentative steps became more confident and small ones became > strides. the feeling was liberating and exhilerating. i had never thoughht i > would feel that way. gone was the fear and hesitation and it was replaced > with a new self confidence. this did not last only for the time when my > instructor was with me, but also through the journey on my own onto the busy > road wit traffic on one side and the inevitable open drains on the other. > made me wonder why had i not done this before. > a lot of us have opportunities that come our way but hesitate to take them > on only because we are not sure of how to get there. i endorse once again > the best way is to find the right persons to assist you and pick the white > cane to make it a friend and not something to keep away so far away that you > don't see it and so don't need to use it, exactly as i had done. the feeling > at the end of it all is well worth everything! > Warm Regards, > >Payal Kapoor > > | The Residence Hyderabad | > |Direct: +91 9490939739 > | Phone: +91 40 6633 6644 | Fax: +91 40 6633 6650 | > >
Re: [AI] A brush with the white cane
Hi Payal, Thanks for a wonderful mail. You have slammed persons like me, who are gradually loosing vision and are still hesitant to start using a white cane. I must accept that I'm one of those persons who feels using white cane is humiliating just because of the reason that I've still got some vision. But the doubt I've got is that when I visited NAB, Banglore in 2006, they said duration of mobility training course is 45 days but you've taken it in just 5 days. Is it really possible to undergo mobility training in such short duration? Awaiting guidance from all my seniors in this regard. -- G. Vamshi PH Res : +91 877-2243861 Mobile: +91 9949349497 E-mail ID: gvamsh...@gmail.com Skype: gvamshi81 God helps those who help themselves On 9/17/09, payal kapoor wrote: > dear all > > At the outset, i would like to apologise to everyone for this lengthy mail, > but could not manage it in lesser.. > > i would like to share with you some information and my experience with the > formidable "white cane". Mobility is an essential part of everyone's life. > it becomes difficult for us as visually impaired and more important than > ever before. but, do we give ourselves the opportunity to experience it? > most of us shy away from using the white cane that is specifically meant to > serve the purpose of replacing the missing sight, if used with the right > techniques. > i have been one to never be able to use the cane for various reasons. > firstly having been sighted, i am well aware of the perils of being out on > our roads, and the vanity factor has always come in the way. having gone on > all these years in this way, i reached a stage where i felt the strings > holding me down. unavailability of assistance when required and the urgency > to have things done put an abrupt end to all these factors. i decided to go > on and equip myself with this essential skill and made a trip to Mitra > Jyothi in Bangalore for a 5 day programme in Outdoor mobility. this was > customised to suit my need and the time i had available on hand. it was an > experience i will never forget. from the word go, my instructor, Ms Sundari > nudged me on gently but firmly onto moving on my own. the inputs were > positive and not assertive which makes the likes of us that are skeptical > about it, accept it with more ease.holding the cane and moving with it was > something else. the encouragement and constant support made me move on > quicker. tentative steps became more confident and small ones became > strides. the feeling was liberating and exhilerating. i had never thoughht i > would feel that way. gone was the fear and hesitation and it was replaced > with a new self confidence. this did not last only for the time when my > instructor was with me, but also through the journey on my own onto the busy > road wit traffic on one side and the inevitable open drains on the other. > made me wonder why had i not done this before. > a lot of us have opportunities that come our way but hesitate to take them > on only because we are not sure of how to get there. i endorse once again > the best way is to find the right persons to assist you and pick the white > cane to make it a friend and not something to keep away so far away that you > don't see it and so don't need to use it, exactly as i had done. the feeling > at the end of it all is well worth everything! > Warm Regards, > >Payal Kapoor > > | The Residence Hyderabad | > |Direct: +91 9490939739 > | Phone: +91 40 6633 6644 | Fax: +91 40 6633 6650 | > > | 5-4-187/5 |S M Modi Complex, Karbala Maidan | > > | Necklace Road (Ranigunj) | Secunderabad | AP | India | > > | Email: payal.thereside...@gmail.com| > www.residences.co.in > | > > utell > > > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] A brush with the white cane
dear all At the outset, i would like to apologise to everyone for this lengthy mail, but could not manage it in lesser.. i would like to share with you some information and my experience with the formidable "white cane". Mobility is an essential part of everyone's life. it becomes difficult for us as visually impaired and more important than ever before. but, do we give ourselves the opportunity to experience it? most of us shy away from using the white cane that is specifically meant to serve the purpose of replacing the missing sight, if used with the right techniques. i have been one to never be able to use the cane for various reasons. firstly having been sighted, i am well aware of the perils of being out on our roads, and the vanity factor has always come in the way. having gone on all these years in this way, i reached a stage where i felt the strings holding me down. unavailability of assistance when required and the urgency to have things done put an abrupt end to all these factors. i decided to go on and equip myself with this essential skill and made a trip to Mitra Jyothi in Bangalore for a 5 day programme in Outdoor mobility. this was customised to suit my need and the time i had available on hand. it was an experience i will never forget. from the word go, my instructor, Ms Sundari nudged me on gently but firmly onto moving on my own. the inputs were positive and not assertive which makes the likes of us that are skeptical about it, accept it with more ease.holding the cane and moving with it was something else. the encouragement and constant support made me move on quicker. tentative steps became more confident and small ones became strides. the feeling was liberating and exhilerating. i had never thoughht i would feel that way. gone was the fear and hesitation and it was replaced with a new self confidence. this did not last only for the time when my instructor was with me, but also through the journey on my own onto the busy road wit traffic on one side and the inevitable open drains on the other. made me wonder why had i not done this before. a lot of us have opportunities that come our way but hesitate to take them on only because we are not sure of how to get there. i endorse once again the best way is to find the right persons to assist you and pick the white cane to make it a friend and not something to keep away so far away that you don't see it and so don't need to use it, exactly as i had done. the feeling at the end of it all is well worth everything! Warm Regards, Payal Kapoor | The Residence Hyderabad | |Direct: +91 9490939739 | Phone: +91 40 6633 6644 | Fax: +91 40 6633 6650 | | 5-4-187/5 |S M Modi Complex, Karbala Maidan | | Necklace Road (Ranigunj) | Secunderabad | AP | India | | Email: payal.thereside...@gmail.com| www.residences.co.in | utell To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
