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>    3. Re: contact details required for database (Amrit Pal)
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> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:54:23 +0530
> From: "Subramani L" <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] "My experience in travel.
> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
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> Given that we have not accomplished anything more than a few
> unimplemented rules on paper, should we make this a class issue?
>
> Subramani
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
> Rajesh
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:29 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] "My experience in travel.
>
> Yes, Kanchan, everybody has the right to choose one's battles.
> However, everybody is not equally capable to fight those out.
> There are hundreds of internal and external factors influencing one's
> endeavors.
> Anyway, I am about to choose my priorities for striving, and it seems
> education sector has a vast potential to generate satisfying employment
> for at least those woo persevere at studies.
>
> I am not comparing priorities.
> All issues affecting disabled merit a genuine striving, however, I can
> surely say that railways, education, and such other problems do affect
> substantially  more number of disabled individuals than, say, air travel
> and share trading, which are the domain of a few elite. Moreover, the
> people affected by former issues, unlike those affected by later ones,
> are not capable themselves to raise a whimper, let alone fight a battle
> with authorities. So, we have to launch a full-fledged agitation for all
> such issues.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:42 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] "My experience in travel.
>
> Rajesh, I am glad you accept that you are passive. What stops people
> like
> you from taking out the agitation.
> You are so talented why not use your pen. Get the people around you to
> get
> together for a rally. I have heard you speak and I know you can
> motivate.
> Why not start something which we can all join. Something like the dharna
> I
> had planned against Nasscom and so many accessindians had agreed to be
> there.
>
> Please do not compare priorities if someone wants to fight DGCA  let
> them.
> do not think that one is more than the other. We all have the right to
> choose our battles.
>
> Last week in response to my email on the Database someone did tell me
> that
> we should be fighting against the coins problem rather than wasting
> money on
> a database. .
> Why could not that person take up the challenge himself and fight
> against
> the coins issue and let me choose  my battle.
> Why does everyone think that others are there to fight these
> battles.Lets
> fight them for ourselves and for the benfit of others.
>
> I chose to fight the NSDL or the Banks problem no one forced me to do
> them.
> On the coins issue I had written a mail about a month ago. After that
> there
> was complete silence because everyone realised that they did not want to
> take the lead.
> Yes the railways is a problem. I am going to take up about 3 of those
> many
> problems after I finish some basic work on the database and on the
> scribes
> issue. Also the problems of the physiotherapist need to be looked into
> urgently.  Until I do something you can do a lot.
> I hope you and everyone here does do something.
>
> Kanchan Pamnani
> Advocate & Solicitor
> 9, Suleman Chambers,
> Battery Street, Colaba,
> Mumbai - 400 039.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rahul Gambhir" <rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com>
> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] "My experience in travel.
>
>
>>
>> I also had a similar experience, I was traveling from Dheradun to
> Delhi,
>> and
>> the railway police allowed 2 persons to get into the coach. They were
>> allotted seats against some amount which they paid to security
> personals.
>> When I requested one of the security personal to vacate a birth for me
> so
>> that I can sleep. He said that there is no birth vacant in the
>> compartment.
>> And that was the time when I entered into a debate with them, as I was
>> aware
>> about actual facts.
>>
>> Normally there are 4 births in the Disabled coach out of which 2
> births
>> were
>> occupied by those sighted persons and one by the 2 security personals,
> and
>> one birth by me and my escort.
>>
>> I started by requesting sighted person to change their coach, as this
>> coach
>> is reserved for Disabled travelers. The police personals started
> defending
>> them as they were bribed for allotting births.
>>
>> After a long debate with those 4 persons they finally vacated the
> coach at
>> haridwar, and we managed to get our due rights.
>>
>> There are many changes that are required to be brought in the system
> of
>> railways ranging from getting reservation done to traveling, to make
> the
>> traveling of disabled persons convenient.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rahul Gambhir
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
>> Rajesh
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:33 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] "My experiance in travel.
>>
>> All these absurd problems with disability sector are because we have
> lost
>> ability to give a fight.
>> Has there been any rally to voice all these issues?
>> Has anybody undertaken a fast to ventilate all such issues?
>> Has anybody assassinated a prominent personality because disability
> issues
>> were not taken cognizance of?
>>
>> Millions and millions of disabled continue to live like ants, being
> trod
>> upon by so-called normal individuals daily.
>> Abusing in the name of caste is a cognizable offence, is it so in the
> name
>> of disability?
>> No. have you wondered, why?
>> Pick up  a fight with anybody, and the first explative will be in the
> name
>> of your disability...
>>
>> Establishments not reserving posts, not giving their due to deserving
>> candidates, not giving any work even after appointment, constantly
>> torturing
>> disabled employees for not performing according to prevailing norms
> and
>> procedures, Not allowing use of disabled hoach in the trains
> peacefully,
>> declaring totally blind unfit for any job and so on and so on, all
> these
>> are
>> indignities which we are bearing in the name of civilization. Courts
> are
>> not
>> a panacea, and are more of problem creators than solvers.
>>
>> Now, giving one more example, I was threatened by none other than
>> assistant
>> security officer of our bank that he would not allow my autorikshaw to
>> come
>> till my flat's door to pick me up and drop me and I should board it my
>> outside colony gate.
>> Mind you, dispute between us was concerning something else, and he
> brought
>> this issue as an example.
>> Now, do you think it is decent behaviour?
>> And, now, what can I hope for by invoking available remedies?
>>
>> The point in question is indignities metted out to the person on
> account
>> of
>> disability and our utter inability to undertake any fruitful action.
>> This handicapped compartment issue is also here for ages, since they
> were
>> introduced in railways.
>> Almost all of us have suffered from it.
>> But, we are more concerned with DGCA issuing guidelines for
> independent
>> travel of disable air passengers than a disabled person being able to
>> undertake convenient journey rightfully in railways.
>>
>> UGC compandium of circulars is one more example.
>> So is arbitrariness in issuing railway concession tickets by ER
> clerks.
>> So, formal and informal victimization of the disabled is a fact of
> life.
>> We must, protest, at least by employing all available means against
> such
>> an
>> indignified life.
>> Judiciary, executive consultations etc. can, to some extent, mitigate
> the
>> issues. Public agitation is also one of the potent means, but is
> easier
>> said
>> than done.
>> Mind you, I too perceive myself as one of the passive viewers/victims
> of
>> this foolish process of humanity.
>>
>> Regards
>> Rajesh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of subi k.s.
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:52 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] "My experiance in travel.
>>
>> On 6/10/09, tharani <pathiandka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Dear A I friends:
>>>
>>> While I travel through train in disable coach the normal person also
> get
>> in
>>> to the disable coach.
>>>
>>> Not only single person,  group of the person or family group member.
>>>
>>> This incident will be held on the starting stage. So, We don't have
> enif
>>> place.
>>>
>>> While traveling train they lay down on the flore and they start to
>>> smoak.after starting station there is no chance to get in to the
> disable
>>> person inside of the cabin. If the disable person nock the door the
>>> normal
>>> person keep silent and they asked are you having any concision form
> and
>> show
>>> it to us.
>>>
>>> Finally the disable person missed the train. In this occasion what we
>>> will
>>> do?PLS give your cooperation for to take a good jerny.
>>>
>>>  Thanks for ever:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> B. Tharanipathy.
>>>
>>> Mobile: 09840825958.
>>>
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>> This became a regular practise in kerala also.
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:56:00 +0530
> From: "Subramani L" <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Totally blind unfit case update
> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
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> These are victories in small battles when the larger war is still to be
> won. But no doubt these do bring smiles to our faces.
>
> Subramani
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
> Rajesh
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:03 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Totally blind unfit case update
>
> Friends
> You may remember a totally blind female recruit in SBI clerical being
> declared unfit on account of 100% blindness in Nagpur.
> The issue seems to have been resolved at least at SBI's end, as SBI top
> brass has shown the wisdom to offer her the appointment probably next
> week.
> However, I will confirm the same as and when it takes place.
> Thank you for the cooperation of one and all, but we need to fight out
> the issue at the medical board level, as it will otherwise continue to
> declare totally blind persons unfit without any rhyme and reason.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Rajesh Asudani
>
> Manager
> Reserve Bank of India
> Nagpur
> 09420397185
> O: 0712 2806676
> Res: 0712 2591349
> Doth God exact day-labour, light denied?"
> John Milton
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:21:56 -0700
> From: Amrit Pal <amritpa...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AI] contact details required for database
> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
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> Kirpal Singh Kasel is no more.
> Saubhagya Goel is a lecturer in history in Govt. College, Ajmer, Rajasthan.
> Dr Surendar Singh Sangwan is a professor in English working in the Dept. of
> English, Maharshi Dayanand University, Rohtak. Haryana.  e mail addresses
> are not known.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@hotmail.com>
> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:32 AM
> Subject: [AI] contact details required for database
>
>
>> Kindly send me the email ids or contact numbers of the following persons:
>>
>> B. S. Venkatesh
>> Buse Gowda
>> Deepak Narendra Motiwalla
>> Dilip Loyolka
>> Garimella Subramaniam
>> Jagdish Luthra
>> Jyotindra V. Mehta
>> Kirpal Singh Kasel
>> Madhuri M. Desai
>> Marita Cardoz
>> Mohan Chandrasekaran
>> Moreshwar J. Dharmadhikari
>> P. R. Pichumani
>> Ravi Kumar Arora
>> S. Tarsem
>> Sadhan Gupta
>> Sanjay Dang
>> Satish Amarnath
>> Shirish Deshpande
>> Shiv Jatan Thakur
>> Shivaji Laxman Chavhan
>> Shri Ram Bhadracharyaji
>> Sobhagya Goyal
>> Surender Singh Sangwan
>> Sushama Agrawal
>> Sushil Bhutani
>> Usha Nagarajan
>> Ved Prakash Varma
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Kanchan.
>>
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:34:22 +0530
> From: "hari" <harikoda...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AI] " any wants "A-tale of two cities" books
> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Message-ID: <010801c9ef6d$abaf83d0$0201a...@user>
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> Sir, I too want this book. Would you please send to me also? My Email ID is
> harikoda...@gmail.com
> With regards. Hari.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tharani" <pathiandka...@gmail.com>
> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:08 PM
> Subject: [AI] " any wants "A-tale of two cities" books
>
>
>> Dear all:
>>
>> Any one intruste to read this book?
>> "A-tale of two cities  Author Charles Dickens 1859.
>> Please tuch me back on My ID.
>> It's note pad moad and 537 pages.
>>
>> Book the First-
>> Recalled to Life
>>
>>
>> It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was
>> the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was
>> the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was
>> the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was
>> the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything
>> before us, we had nothing before us, we were all
>> going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other
>> way-in short, the period was so far like the present period,
>> that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being
>> received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of
>>
>>
>> comparison only.
>>
>> Best Regards:
>> B. Tharanipathy.
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:46:39 +0530
> From: "pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Shruti-Dated information
> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Message-ID: <df791ac4170e4cf0adf373aeadba1...@kp>
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>
> Mukesh and others,
> Please be careful before posting information to this group. Recently many
> mails from Mukesh have old information. Some of the information is of no
> relevance today eg. the one about talking ATM machine of ICICI in Mumbai
> simce  the ATM is broken and not functioning for atleast 2 years. that
> information was dated 2003. The email about the cane developed at Rs. 50 is
> also very old.
> The current mail on Shruti is dated 2005. Prof Vinod sena passed away more
> than 1 year ago. At the bottom of every mail that has been referred to , is
> a date.
> Its terrible when you post old and outdated information and it is worse that
> others read the old infomation and dont check the whole mail and ask
> questions and thus start a conversation sometimes obscuring the issue and
> confusing everyone.
>
> My request is that everyone should check before posting.
> Kanchan
>
> The current email is about Shruti and is dated
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mukesh jain" <mukesh.jai...@gmail.com>
> To: "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 13:05
> Subject: [AI] Shruti-a Website that Talks
>
>
>   Imagine hitting a button on the keyboard of your computer and
> hearing a robot-llike voice reading out Jane Austen to you. And we are
> definitely not talking about an audio-player! Welcome to the world of
> books and reference material for the reading impaired.
>   It took Professor Vinod Sena seven years of hard work to put
> together the most comprehensive and probably the only website of its
> kind of the visually challenged in India. The website
> www.indev.nic...@shruti launched recently at the British Council
> offers a host of information resources, audio-books and catalogues and
> two online magazines for the blind and the Print-disabled, such as
> dyslexics, by talking to them.
>   Created by Sena?s Shruti Information Centre, the site was specially
> designed and hosted on Indev, the British Council?s electronic gateway
> to development information. Indev offers support to NGO?S and other
> social organizations by offering information and web-hosting
> facilities. It was formerly launched by Arun Shourie,  Union Minister
> for Comunication and Information Technology, and for Disinvestment, at
> the British Council. He was so impressed with the effort that he
> announced a grant of Rs 50 lakh to continue and develop the work and
> encourage networking.
>   Professor Sena whose been visually challenged since the age of three
> months, has experienced all the challenges that people with disability
> face in the modern world. One of the biggest  challenges, he felt, was
> being excluded from the single biggest community in the world
> today-the World Wide Web.
>   This made Sena launch a massive effort to make a site for the
> visually challenged. The Shruti website has three major sections. The
> first covers text resources and provides a comprehensive catalogue of
> audio books in India. You can ?hear? electronic texts as synthesized
> speech. The second section has comprehensive information on a wide
> range of subjects including government concessions and services for
> the blind,lists of schools and hospitals and even tips on planning a
> vacation. The third section has two online quarterly magazines, Shruti
> Mag for adults and Shruti Junior for young readers.
>   The website is completely audio accessible and operating it does not
> need any help from a sighted person. All you need is a keyboard and
> screen reading software such as JAWS [Job Accessible with Speech].
> This unique software uses a simple combination of three keys to
> control the speed of reding, the volume and navigation.
>   Sena firmly  believes that the only way forward is through
> partnerships with similar organizations across the world. The Royal
> National Institute for the Blind in the UK has already given him
> permission to use their material on his website. He has formed similar
> ties with the Braille Monitor in the USA. He hopes that younger people
> in India will volunteer to take his work forwarde.
>   Professor Sena?s dream is to have a national library service for the
> blind. While working towards that, he will continue to add to the
> Shruti website in terms of general information, statistical
> information on blindness in India, key documents of global importance
> on disability and, most importantly, texts in Hindi, as soon as a
> reading software for Hindi hits the market. Sena hopes that accesss to
> the website will give the strength to the blind to be more ?proactive?
> to seize opportunities, fight for their rights  and overcome obstacles
> and ignorance.
>   Connecting
>   January 2005
>   The British Council Magazine in India
> thanks,
> mukesh jain.
>
>
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