Re: [AI] Interesting read: Is it wrong to imply disabled people are not "normal"?

2015-09-15 Thread Vedprakash
Sometimes, our commentators and scholars make too much of nothing.
In the present case, the word "normal" means "average" "common" or "adhering
to a set standard".
When a doctor checks the fever of his patient, and says that the temperature
is normal, should the patient protest and say that his temperature is not
abnormal.
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Subject: [AI] Interesting read: Is it wrong to imply disabled people are not
"normal"?

Iain Duncan Smith has been criticised for calling non-disabled people
"normal". Why does the word make people angry?
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-ouch-34197074
The Work and Pensions Secretary, Iain Duncan Smith, said in the House of
Commons while defending the government's record on getting disabled people
back into employment that "we are looking to get [the employment rates of
disabled people] up to the level of normal, non-disabled people who are back
in work."

Disabled and non-disabled people were quick to react to the implication that
people with disabilities are not "normal". On Twitter such comments as "none
of us are normal" and "diversity is normal"
have opened up a conversation about what normality is and whether or not it
should ever be used to describe those with disabilities.

The word itself is derived from the Latin "normalis" meaning a right-angle
corresponding to a set square or carpenter's tool. George Walkden, a
historical linguist from Manchester University says that later it became
more linked to conforming to a set of standards and in the 16th Century it
evolved further to mean ordinary.


A tweet saying
Image caption
People on Twitter have questioned whether "normal" even exists

"The use of the word implicitly divides people into two groups - with
abnormal, the currently used antonym, carrying negative connotations,"
Walkden says. "The problem is that those who have been classified as not
normal have a problem with it, it creates a sense of 'them' and 'us'.

"It's very context-dependent and doesn't mean the same things to everyone,
it's all about who and when. If I say a normal chair has four legs then
that's OK."

Another connotation of normal is that it should be something we strive
towards which, Walkden says, in the case of many disabilities, is cruel
because it is referring to things that can not be changed.

While many wouldn't bat an eyelid at using the word "normal" to describe
non-disabled people, wheelchair user Mik Scarlet says he has encountered it
his entire life.






"Normal just shouldn't exist anymore because I don't think anybody can
really define what it is," he says. "If we can get past this idea of normal
then we can be truly equal and nobody would need to be described as such.

"I meet so many young disabled people who say they just want to be normal,
that's all they want, and actually I think anybody who strives for that has
missed the point of life, really. For me it is much better to see yourself
as not normal and different because that is just more interesting."

But Pipa Riggs, a blind woman from Scotland has a different opinion,
maintaining that Duncan Smith was technically correct in his use of "normal"
to describe non-disabled people. "Based on the fact we are seen as
'disabled' infers we are not as able as the majority," she says, "and
another way of describing a majority is as 'normal' so I think he was
justified in his usage," she says.


Mik Scarlet in his music studio
Image caption
Mik says he doesn't want to be "normal"

Dr John Hughes, a GP in Manchester says that the medical definition will
vary greatly from a social usage of the word and it is important that
doctors have a standardised view of what "normal" means.

"In medicine there are normal ranges for most things, blood tests, heart
rate etc and anything outside of what is the normal range is considered
abnormal," he says.

At its most basic level, Hughes says, "normal" is defined by doctors as
having two arms, two legs and a healthy set of organs and mind.
But, he adds, nuances do still exist and doctors will have their own,
individual view of what "normal" is.

"Take autism and Aspergers which are on a very wide spectrum and you will
find that psychiatrists often have a much lower threshold than GPs of what
may constitute those conditions. And then look at the terminology often used
around autism, that somebody can have 'high functioning autism' placing them
closer to what we believe is

[AI] Interesting read: Is it wrong to imply disabled people are not "normal"?

2015-09-13 Thread avinash shahi
Iain Duncan Smith has been criticised for calling non-disabled people
"normal". Why does the word make people angry?
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-ouch-34197074
The Work and Pensions Secretary, Iain Duncan Smith, said in the House
of Commons while defending the government's record on getting disabled
people back into employment that "we are looking to get [the
employment rates of disabled people] up to the level of normal,
non-disabled people who are back in work."

Disabled and non-disabled people were quick to react to the
implication that people with disabilities are not "normal". On Twitter
such comments as "none of us are normal" and "diversity is normal"
have opened up a conversation about what normality is and whether or
not it should ever be used to describe those with disabilities.

The word itself is derived from the Latin "normalis" meaning a
right-angle corresponding to a set square or carpenter's tool. George
Walkden, a historical linguist from Manchester University says that
later it became more linked to conforming to a set of standards and in
the 16th Century it evolved further to mean ordinary.


A tweet saying
Image caption
People on Twitter have questioned whether "normal" even exists

"The use of the word implicitly divides people into two groups - with
abnormal, the currently used antonym, carrying negative connotations,"
Walkden says. "The problem is that those who have been classified as
not normal have a problem with it, it creates a sense of 'them' and
'us'.

"It's very context-dependent and doesn't mean the same things to
everyone, it's all about who and when. If I say a normal chair has
four legs then that's OK."

Another connotation of normal is that it should be something we strive
towards which, Walkden says, in the case of many disabilities, is
cruel because it is referring to things that can not be changed.

While many wouldn't bat an eyelid at using the word "normal" to
describe non-disabled people, wheelchair user Mik Scarlet says he has
encountered it his entire life.






"Normal just shouldn't exist anymore because I don't think anybody can
really define what it is," he says. "If we can get past this idea of
normal then we can be truly equal and nobody would need to be
described as such.

"I meet so many young disabled people who say they just want to be
normal, that's all they want, and actually I think anybody who strives
for that has missed the point of life, really. For me it is much
better to see yourself as not normal and different because that is
just more interesting."

But Pipa Riggs, a blind woman from Scotland has a different opinion,
maintaining that Duncan Smith was technically correct in his use of
"normal" to describe non-disabled people. "Based on the fact we are
seen as 'disabled' infers we are not as able as the majority," she
says, "and another way of describing a majority is as 'normal' so I
think he was justified in his usage," she says.


Mik Scarlet in his music studio
Image caption
Mik says he doesn't want to be "normal"

Dr John Hughes, a GP in Manchester says that the medical definition
will vary greatly from a social usage of the word and it is important
that doctors have a standardised view of what "normal" means.

"In medicine there are normal ranges for most things, blood tests,
heart rate etc and anything outside of what is the normal range is
considered abnormal," he says.

At its most basic level, Hughes says, "normal" is defined by doctors
as having two arms, two legs and a healthy set of organs and mind.
But, he adds, nuances do still exist and doctors will have their own,
individual view of what "normal" is.

"Take autism and Aspergers which are on a very wide spectrum and you
will find that psychiatrists often have a much lower threshold than
GPs of what may constitute those conditions. And then look at the
terminology often used around autism, that somebody can have 'high
functioning autism' placing them closer to what we believe is the
'normal' way a brain should be."

Hughes says that doctors ultimately tend to use themselves as a
benchmark for what is "normal", so the word is certainly up for
interpretation in the medical profession too.

Ian Macrae from the website Disability Now (who is blind) says Duncan
Smith was using a subjective term in an objective way.

"I view everything about me as normal. The technology I use for
example, is to me not at all out-of-the-ordinary, but it would be to
somebody else". He goes on: "I used to attend the Royal Normal College
for the Blind. Normal was used in its name the way it was used in
America to identify a training college. The irony was not lost on us
blind kids because we were well aware that we, and the institution,
were definitely not considered as the norm."

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