Re: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually impaired user?

2015-10-25 Thread Manish Agrawal
I tried this out with an iphone and a Bluetooth keyboard and find it to be 
extremely tedious. The keyboard support for voice over on the ipad is 
completely counter-intuitive.
As an example, to hit "enter" on a button, instead of hitting enter, you need 
to press the up and down arrow keys together. This simulates a double click. 
The IPad doesn't inherently understand a keyboard and the "enter" key.
This is just an example. There are several others related to edit mode vs. 
quick nav mode, the screen locking out when you are trying to read a document 
etc.

All in all, I don't believe the ipad with a Bluetooth combination replaces a 
laptop - not even partially.

-Manish



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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:21 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
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Subject: Re: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually 
impaired user?

Hi Manish, do you think using an iPad with a Bluetooth keyboard would give
all the advantages of a mac obviously minus the ability to access pendrives
and portable storage devices? Can the office applications like pages be
used effectively?

On 20 October 2015 at 04:37, Manish Agrawal  wrote:

> I use a mac book with voice over and also run windows 7 with jaws and NVDA
> using parallels on the same machine.
> At this point in time, the windows screen readers are significantly easier
> to use and more versatile as compared to voice over IMHO.
>
> I am a software engineer and use both windows and mac heavily for
> browsing, mail, presentations, excel, and software development. Your needs
> may be different and you may find one or the other better for personal
> preference.
>
> Keep in mind that there is a relatively steep learning curve for voice
> over when you switch from windows to mac, so, you may find it a bit extra
> difficult to begin with.
>
> Having said this, voice over is much better suited for touch screen
> devices like an ipad. So, if you plan to buy a touch pc like the surface
> pro for any reason, a mac will be a better option.
>
> Regards,
> Manish
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of Rishi Kewalramani
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 6:47 PM
> To: accessindia
> Subject: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually
> impaired user?
>
> Hi all,
> My computer and jaws version is too old and needs to be replaced. I've
> been a windows with jaws user up till now.
> I was wondering is it worth switching over to the  Mac n tosh OS with
> voice over.
> Is anybody using the Mac book or iMac on this list?
> Could you please share your experience from the accessibility  point of
> view.
> Is it worth making the switch taking into consideration the stability of
> Mac computers and that the screen reader comes right out of the box unlike
> Jaws that has to be purchased separately?
>
> Please help me to make an informed decision,
> Appreciate all your valuable inputs,
> Many thanks in advance,
> Kind regards,
> Rishi.
>
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Re: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually impaired user?

2015-10-19 Thread Aaruni Sharma
Hi Manish, do you think using an iPad with a Bluetooth keyboard would give
all the advantages of a mac obviously minus the ability to access pendrives
and portable storage devices? Can the office applications like pages be
used effectively?

On 20 October 2015 at 04:37, Manish Agrawal  wrote:

> I use a mac book with voice over and also run windows 7 with jaws and NVDA
> using parallels on the same machine.
> At this point in time, the windows screen readers are significantly easier
> to use and more versatile as compared to voice over IMHO.
>
> I am a software engineer and use both windows and mac heavily for
> browsing, mail, presentations, excel, and software development. Your needs
> may be different and you may find one or the other better for personal
> preference.
>
> Keep in mind that there is a relatively steep learning curve for voice
> over when you switch from windows to mac, so, you may find it a bit extra
> difficult to begin with.
>
> Having said this, voice over is much better suited for touch screen
> devices like an ipad. So, if you plan to buy a touch pc like the surface
> pro for any reason, a mac will be a better option.
>
> Regards,
> Manish
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of Rishi Kewalramani
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 6:47 PM
> To: accessindia
> Subject: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually
> impaired user?
>
> Hi all,
> My computer and jaws version is too old and needs to be replaced. I've
> been a windows with jaws user up till now.
> I was wondering is it worth switching over to the  Mac n tosh OS with
> voice over.
> Is anybody using the Mac book or iMac on this list?
> Could you please share your experience from the accessibility  point of
> view.
> Is it worth making the switch taking into consideration the stability of
> Mac computers and that the screen reader comes right out of the box unlike
> Jaws that has to be purchased separately?
>
> Please help me to make an informed decision,
> Appreciate all your valuable inputs,
> Many thanks in advance,
> Kind regards,
> Rishi.
>
>
> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
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Re: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually impaired user?

2015-10-19 Thread Manish Agrawal
I use a mac book with voice over and also run windows 7 with jaws and NVDA 
using parallels on the same machine.
At this point in time, the windows screen readers are significantly easier to 
use and more versatile as compared to voice over IMHO. 

I am a software engineer and use both windows and mac heavily for browsing, 
mail, presentations, excel, and software development. Your needs may be 
different and you may find one or the other better for personal preference.

Keep in mind that there is a relatively steep learning curve for voice over 
when you switch from windows to mac, so, you may find it a bit extra difficult 
to begin with.

Having said this, voice over is much better suited for touch screen devices 
like an ipad. So, if you plan to buy a touch pc like the surface pro for any 
reason, a mac will be a better option.

Regards,
Manish

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Rishi Kewalramani
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 6:47 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually impaired 
user?

Hi all,
My computer and jaws version is too old and needs to be replaced. I've been a 
windows with jaws user up till now.
I was wondering is it worth switching over to the  Mac n tosh OS with voice 
over.
Is anybody using the Mac book or iMac on this list?
Could you please share your experience from the accessibility  point of view.
Is it worth making the switch taking into consideration the stability of Mac 
computers and that the screen reader comes right out of the box unlike Jaws 
that has to be purchased separately?

Please help me to make an informed decision,
Appreciate all your valuable inputs,
Many thanks in advance,
Kind regards,
Rishi.


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Re: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually impaired user?

2015-10-12 Thread Prashant Verma
Dear  Ekinath,
In all probability you can restore the use of function keys. Go into the BIOS 
and disable Active keys. You may need sighted assistance to do this.
Then you will not be required to press the FN key to use the function keys.

Thanks,
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Sent: 13 October 2015 02:40
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually 
impaired user?

Hi Rishi,

Today while typing this email, I feel that McBook wouldn’t have been worse than 
dell windows I’ve just purchased a month back.

The biggest problem is, I don’t know for what logic, windows has changed the 
complete line of function keys and instead has introduced media commands on 
those keys. So even for simple I have to press 3 key commands as to to use the 
most top line as f keys I have to press function/fn key for various useful jaws 
commands.

McBook was smooth, but I hope one doesn’t have to go through same compatibility 
problems as one does with phones. But I used for couple of hours. It was smooth.

I bought Dell Inspiron 5558, it has one of the best config but it’s running 
very slow. I don’t know what’s wrong win. They are putting me off.

This happened even after me checking the keyboard layout in the shop J)

Pardon typos.




On 10/10/15, Rishi Kewalramani  wrote:
> Hi all,
> My computer and jaws version is too old and needs to be replaced. I've 
> been a windows with jaws user up till now.
> I was wondering is it worth switching over to the  Mac n tosh OS with 
> voice over.
> Is anybody using the Mac book or iMac on this list?
> Could you please share your experience from the accessibility  point 
> of view.
> Is it worth making the switch taking into consideration the stability 
> of Mac computers and that the screen reader comes right out of the box 
> unlike Jaws that has to be purchased separately?
>
> Please help me to make an informed decision, Appreciate all your 
> valuable inputs, Many thanks in advance, Kind regards, Rishi.
>
>
> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing 
> accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
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Re: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually impaired user?

2015-10-12 Thread Vikas Kapoor
You can change the default behaviour of the Function keys row from the BIOS 
setup. This is normally the setting for all win based notebooks now days.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ekinath Khedekar 
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe 
disabled. 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 2:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually 
impaired user?


  Hi Rishi,

  Today while typing this email, I feel that McBook wouldn’t have been
  worse than dell windows I’ve just purchased a month back.

  The biggest problem is, I don’t know for what logic, windows has
  changed the complete line of function keys and instead has introduced
  media commands on those keys. So even for simple I have to press 3 key
  commands as to to use the most top line as f keys I have to press
  function/fn key for various useful jaws commands.

  McBook was smooth, but I hope one doesn’t have to go through same
  compatibility problems as one does with phones. But I used for couple
  of hours. It was smooth.

  I bought Dell Inspiron 5558, it has one of the best config but it’s
  running very slow. I don’t know what’s wrong win. They are putting me
  off.

  This happened even after me checking the keyboard layout in the shop )

  Pardon typos.




  On 10/10/15, Rishi Kewalramani  wrote:
  > Hi all,
  > My computer and jaws version is too old and needs to be replaced. I've been
  > a windows with jaws user up till now.
  > I was wondering is it worth switching over to the  Mac n tosh OS with voice
  > over.
  > Is anybody using the Mac book or iMac on this list?
  > Could you please share your experience from the accessibility  point of
  > view.
  > Is it worth making the switch taking into consideration the stability of Mac
  > computers and that the screen reader comes right out of the box unlike Jaws
  > that has to be purchased separately?
  >
  > Please help me to make an informed decision,
  > Appreciate all your valuable inputs,
  > Many thanks in advance,
  > Kind regards,
  > Rishi.
  >
  >
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Re: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually impaired user?

2015-10-12 Thread Ekinath Khedekar
Hi Rishi,

Today while typing this email, I feel that McBook wouldn’t have been
worse than dell windows I’ve just purchased a month back.

The biggest problem is, I don’t know for what logic, windows has
changed the complete line of function keys and instead has introduced
media commands on those keys. So even for simple I have to press 3 key
commands as to to use the most top line as f keys I have to press
function/fn key for various useful jaws commands.

McBook was smooth, but I hope one doesn’t have to go through same
compatibility problems as one does with phones. But I used for couple
of hours. It was smooth.

I bought Dell Inspiron 5558, it has one of the best config but it’s
running very slow. I don’t know what’s wrong win. They are putting me
off.

This happened even after me checking the keyboard layout in the shop )

Pardon typos.




On 10/10/15, Rishi Kewalramani  wrote:
> Hi all,
> My computer and jaws version is too old and needs to be replaced. I've been
> a windows with jaws user up till now.
> I was wondering is it worth switching over to the  Mac n tosh OS with voice
> over.
> Is anybody using the Mac book or iMac on this list?
> Could you please share your experience from the accessibility  point of
> view.
> Is it worth making the switch taking into consideration the stability of Mac
> computers and that the screen reader comes right out of the box unlike Jaws
> that has to be purchased separately?
>
> Please help me to make an informed decision,
> Appreciate all your valuable inputs,
> Many thanks in advance,
> Kind regards,
> Rishi.
>
>
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Re: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually impaired user?

2015-10-12 Thread Amar Jain
Dear Rishi Bhaiya,

There is no straight forward answer to this question. What is your
work profile like, what kind of applications do you use and are they
available for Mac?

What kind of screen reader user you are, what is the complexity of the
web apps or other apps do you have to deal on a daily basis, do you
extensively use office apps and is content editing or proof reading
something you have to deeply go into, are couple of questions you
should consider.

While I agree that IPhones have a great  accessibility, Mac
accessibility and especially the advance features which you may expect
to get on Jaws may not be available with Voiceover on Mac. Is your
organization running on Mac?

Even during the transitional stage, be aware that voiceover requires
usage of 3-4 keys for commands,  unlike screen readers like Jaws and
NVDA.

A friendly advice would be to not to jump to Mac if your organization
users are on Windows, you will run into issues which could start from
something as simple as fonts compatibility.

While I love trying out things, but I would still say that Mac is not
the best recommendation at the moment.  Although there are many good
users of Mac on this and other lists.

Regards
-- 
Amar Jain.
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Re: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually impaired user?

2015-10-11 Thread Thavaselvan
Hi good evening my friend I m Saravanan KARUMALAI from trichy Tamil Nadu,, I am 
preparing  shortcut keys of Excel. Plz please send me the shortcut keys and the 
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On 11 Oct 2015 19:48, preeti  wrote:
>
> hi I am using the macbook without any problem.U just have to get used to 
> using it. 
> On Oct 11, 2015, at 3:14 AM, surabhi.sac...@gmail.com wrote: 
>
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > Apple accessibility is brilliant. I had thought of purchasing one for 
> > myself, but couldn't because my organisation uses windows. However, I have 
> > been using iPhones and iPad , and theres no better device with respect to 
> > accessibility interface. 
> > It's just that you will have to adapt to a new software. I would suggest 
> > that you could join the apple accessibility community for a few days, and 
> > speak to an authorised dealer about the training for using a Mac book.  In 
> > case, you have a friend who's already using a Mac with iOS , then try that 
> > with voice over. 
> > It's an expensive device, but  you can always  switch to windows with boot 
> > camp feature. 
> > Hope that helps. 
> > 
> > Thank you. 
> > Regards 
> > Surabhi Sachar 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my ipad 
> > 
> >> On 11-Oct-2015, at 4:16 am, Rishi Kewalramani 
> >>  wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Hi all, 
> >> My computer and jaws version is too old and needs to be replaced. I've 
> >> been a windows with jaws user up till now. 
> >> I was wondering is it worth switching over to the  Mac n tosh OS with 
> >> voice over. 
> >> Is anybody using the Mac book or iMac on this list? 
> >> Could you please share your experience from the accessibility  point of 
> >> view. 
> >> Is it worth making the switch taking into consideration the stability of 
> >> Mac computers and that the screen reader comes right out of the box unlike 
> >> Jaws that has to be purchased separately? 
> >> 
> >> Please help me to make an informed decision, 
> >> Appreciate all your valuable inputs, 
> >> Many thanks in advance, 
> >> Kind regards, 
> >> Rishi. 
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Re: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually impaired user?

2015-10-11 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi Rishi,

The answer, in all such cases is "it depends." What is the software that you
use? What kinds of things do you plan to do with your machine? If the only
reason you are switching to a MAC is an outdated version of jaws, then download
NVDA and give it a spin. If however, there are other considerations, then go for
it. Yes, Apple accessibility is good but it is still difficult to create complex
documents on theMac. This situation may have changed. Start your research at
http://www.applevis.com.

You can run windows on a Mac via bootcamp and other virtualization software.
However, if you are doing audio production work on Windows then this approach
could be problematic. See the posts on http://www.hartgen.org.  This is why I
stress on use cases.
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Re: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually impaired user?

2015-10-11 Thread preeti
hi I am using the macbook without any problem.U just have to get used to using 
it.
On Oct 11, 2015, at 3:14 AM, surabhi.sac...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Apple accessibility is brilliant. I had thought of purchasing one for myself, 
> but couldn't because my organisation uses windows. However, I have been using 
> iPhones and iPad , and theres no better device with respect to accessibility 
> interface. 
> It's just that you will have to adapt to a new software. I would suggest that 
> you could join the apple accessibility community for a few days, and speak to 
> an authorised dealer about the training for using a Mac book.  In case, you 
> have a friend who's already using a Mac with iOS , then try that with voice 
> over. 
> It's an expensive device, but  you can always  switch to windows with boot 
> camp feature.
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Thank you.
> Regards
> Surabhi Sachar
> 
> 
> Sent from my ipad
> 
>> On 11-Oct-2015, at 4:16 am, Rishi Kewalramani  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> My computer and jaws version is too old and needs to be replaced. I've been 
>> a windows with jaws user up till now.
>> I was wondering is it worth switching over to the  Mac n tosh OS with voice 
>> over.
>> Is anybody using the Mac book or iMac on this list?
>> Could you please share your experience from the accessibility  point of view.
>> Is it worth making the switch taking into consideration the stability of Mac 
>> computers and that the screen reader comes right out of the box unlike Jaws 
>> that has to be purchased separately?
>> 
>> Please help me to make an informed decision,
>> Appreciate all your valuable inputs,
>> Many thanks in advance,
>> Kind regards,
>> Rishi.
>> 
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Re: [AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually impaired user?

2015-10-11 Thread surabhi . sachar
Hi,

Apple accessibility is brilliant. I had thought of purchasing one for myself, 
but couldn't because my organisation uses windows. However, I have been using 
iPhones and iPad , and theres no better device with respect to accessibility 
interface. 
It's just that you will have to adapt to a new software. I would suggest that 
you could join the apple accessibility community for a few days, and speak to 
an authorised dealer about the training for using a Mac book.  In case, you 
have a friend who's already using a Mac with iOS , then try that with voice 
over. 
It's an expensive device, but  you can always  switch to windows with boot camp 
feature.
Hope that helps.

Thank you.
Regards
Surabhi Sachar


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> On 11-Oct-2015, at 4:16 am, Rishi Kewalramani  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> My computer and jaws version is too old and needs to be replaced. I've been a 
> windows with jaws user up till now.
> I was wondering is it worth switching over to the  Mac n tosh OS with voice 
> over.
> Is anybody using the Mac book or iMac on this list?
> Could you please share your experience from the accessibility  point of view.
> Is it worth making the switch taking into consideration the stability of Mac 
> computers and that the screen reader comes right out of the box unlike Jaws 
> that has to be purchased separately?
> 
> Please help me to make an informed decision,
> Appreciate all your valuable inputs,
> Many thanks in advance,
> Kind regards,
> Rishi.
> 
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[AI] Is it worth switching to Mac from Windows as a visually impaired user?

2015-10-10 Thread Rishi Kewalramani
Hi all,
My computer and jaws version is too old and needs to be replaced. I've been a 
windows with jaws user up till now.
I was wondering is it worth switching over to the  Mac n tosh OS with voice 
over.
Is anybody using the Mac book or iMac on this list?
Could you please share your experience from the accessibility  point of view.
Is it worth making the switch taking into consideration the stability of Mac 
computers and that the screen reader comes right out of the box unlike Jaws 
that has to be purchased separately?

Please help me to make an informed decision,
Appreciate all your valuable inputs,
Many thanks in advance,
Kind regards,
Rishi.


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