Re: [AI] Kafila: Disability Rights And Parental Activism - Can They Co-Exist? Shubhangi Vaidya

2014-03-07 Thread Neerajsaxena
It is difficult to organise a cross disability movement because some sections 
are not able to speak for themselves, wile others are vary vocal, there will 
always be problem when ever we try to undertake to do something in common. 
Under the circumstances each one should look after their interest. 
Thanks-Original message-
From: Ketan Kothari
Sent:  07-03-2014, 1.16  pm
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Cc: jnuvision
Subject: Re: [AI] Kafila: Disability Rights And Parental Activism - Can They 
Co-Exist? Shubhangi Vaidya


Hi friends,

Excellent and thoughtprovoking blog indeed.  I have been thinkind for
several years whether western models of disability could be
superimposed in a society that is ridden with so many inadequacies and
unsurmountable inequalities.

I firmly believe that parents need to be involved in the disability
movement at least for those disabilities that cannot speak for
themselves.  Also, treating disability as a homogeneous subject is
absolutely absurd.  A blind and orthopedically disabled is
comparatively better exposed than those with hearing disabilities and
the intellectually disabled and mentally retarded have a long way to
go.  Probably that is the reason why many corporates and civil society
organizations shy away from getting involved in our affairs.  I would
welcome a discussion on the topic.

I have some more to say subsequently.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 3/7/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Guest Post by SHUBHANGI VAIDYA
 http://kafila.org/2014/03/06/disability-rights-and-parental-activism-can-they-co-exist-shubhangi-vaidya/
 Parents are valuable allies in the Disability Rights Movement thanks
 to their intimate engagement with persons with disability. To view
 them as representatives of a 'disabling' society does them a grave
 injustice. However, the heated debates over the new Rights for Persons
 with Disabilities Bill introduced in the Rajya Sabha  have seen a
 confrontation of stances between two groups along these lines.

 The first group consists of vocal self-advocates who point out a
 number of weaknesses and contradictions in the Bill from a Rights
 perspective, citing the provisions of the United Nations Convention on
 the Rights of Persons with Disability ratified by India in 2007.

 The other group is a loose coalition of 'cross-disability' activists
 including lobbying for a speedy passage of the Bill, with crucial
 amendments, in what is the last session  of this Parliament and of the
 government of the day, which just happens to be UPA.

 It is important to note that this Bill has not just dropped down from
 the heavens; it is the end result of years of protracted
 consultations, contestations, confrontation by stake-holders across
 the sector. I do not propose here to go into the pros and cons of its
 provisions; rather, I wish to highlight a rather disturbing trend that
 I discern in the frenetic exchanges between some self-advocates in the
 sector and parent activists on the social media.
 Disabled activists seem to have bought the notion that parents are 'on
 the other side', representing the voice of a disabling society that
 would isolate and exclude persons with disability and subject them to
 a regime of charity, pity and welfare. They would deny persons with
 disability their rights, agency and full legal capacity thereby
 entrapping them in relationships of power and dominance to which they
 must meekly submit. This formulation is a product of the power and
 appeal of the 'social model' of disability which has been the
 ideological epicenter of the Disability Rights Movement which emerged
 in the United Kingdom in the 1970s and 1980s with the seminal works of
 scholars like Mike Oliver, Vic Finkelstein, Colin Barnes and others.
 Disability is viewed as a social creation, the result of inaccessible
 environments and societal attitudes rather than individual
 'impairments'. Despite the model's great resonance and appeal to those
 with physical disabilities, it lacks explanatory power when we talk
 about conditions like autism, and other 'mental' disabilities where
 there is an embodied reality, a real difference in being in the world
 that must be acknowledged and respected.

 For persons with autism, severe intellectual disabilities, etc. whose
 mental capacities and modes of engagement with the world are
 qualitatively different from the rest, the need for support is an
 undeniable reality which it will be short sighted and cruel to deny.
 To assert, for example that a person with severe autism is able to
 exercise full legal capacity and that any attempt to provide
 guardianship and support is plenary guardianship by any other name
 betrays an appalling lack of awareness about the daily lived realities
 of persons with 'high support needs' and their family. To assert that
 special schools or home schooling violate the right to 'inclusive'
 education

Re: [AI] Kafila: Disability Rights And Parental Activism - Can They Co-Exist? Shubhangi Vaidya

2014-03-07 Thread muruganandan.k
While the article seems to pitch upon a crucial fact, we cannot afford
to forget the ratio and socio-economic background of the parents and
care-givers participating/articulating the rights and concerns. Though
those enduring intellectual and mental disabbilities are not in  a
position to lobby or struggle for their rights, the contribution of
the articulative disabled sections to the rights and welfare of those
neglected groups has been enormous.
The RPW bill, which the article ultimately hints to, is opposed by the
activists not for their selfish motives, but only in anticipation of
the greater problems it would cause to all the disabled with the
non-articulative sections being the worst affected. the author, in my
opinion, has a different agenda in homogenizing all the parrants into
a single group, thereby creating a falls-picture as if they all stood
for the passage of the bill!

On 3/7/14, Neerajsaxena neerajsaxena12...@gmail.com wrote:
 It is difficult to organise a cross disability movement because some
 sections are not able to speak for themselves, wile others are vary vocal,
 there will always be problem when ever we try to undertake to do something
 in common. Under the circumstances each one should look after their
 interest.
 Thanks-Original message-
 From: Ketan Kothari
 Sent:  07-03-2014, 1.16  pm
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
   the disabled.
 Cc: jnuvision
 Subject: Re: [AI] Kafila: Disability Rights And Parental Activism - Can They
 Co-Exist? Shubhangi Vaidya


 Hi friends,

 Excellent and thoughtprovoking blog indeed.  I have been thinkind for
 several years whether western models of disability could be
 superimposed in a society that is ridden with so many inadequacies and
 unsurmountable inequalities.

 I firmly believe that parents need to be involved in the disability
 movement at least for those disabilities that cannot speak for
 themselves.  Also, treating disability as a homogeneous subject is
 absolutely absurd.  A blind and orthopedically disabled is
 comparatively better exposed than those with hearing disabilities and
 the intellectually disabled and mentally retarded have a long way to
 go.  Probably that is the reason why many corporates and civil society
 organizations shy away from getting involved in our affairs.  I would
 welcome a discussion on the topic.

 I have some more to say subsequently.

 With best wishes,

 Ketan

 On 3/7/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Guest Post by SHUBHANGI VAIDYA
 http://kafila.org/2014/03/06/disability-rights-and-parental-activism-can-they-co-exist-shubhangi-vaidya/
 Parents are valuable allies in the Disability Rights Movement thanks
 to their intimate engagement with persons with disability. To view
 them as representatives of a 'disabling' society does them a grave
 injustice. However, the heated debates over the new Rights for Persons
 with Disabilities Bill introduced in the Rajya Sabha  have seen a
 confrontation of stances between two groups along these lines.

 The first group consists of vocal self-advocates who point out a
 number of weaknesses and contradictions in the Bill from a Rights
 perspective, citing the provisions of the United Nations Convention on
 the Rights of Persons with Disability ratified by India in 2007.

 The other group is a loose coalition of 'cross-disability' activists
 including lobbying for a speedy passage of the Bill, with crucial
 amendments, in what is the last session  of this Parliament and of the
 government of the day, which just happens to be UPA.

 It is important to note that this Bill has not just dropped down from
 the heavens; it is the end result of years of protracted
 consultations, contestations, confrontation by stake-holders across
 the sector. I do not propose here to go into the pros and cons of its
 provisions; rather, I wish to highlight a rather disturbing trend that
 I discern in the frenetic exchanges between some self-advocates in the
 sector and parent activists on the social media.
 Disabled activists seem to have bought the notion that parents are 'on
 the other side', representing the voice of a disabling society that
 would isolate and exclude persons with disability and subject them to
 a regime of charity, pity and welfare. They would deny persons with
 disability their rights, agency and full legal capacity thereby
 entrapping them in relationships of power and dominance to which they
 must meekly submit. This formulation is a product of the power and
 appeal of the 'social model' of disability which has been the
 ideological epicenter of the Disability Rights Movement which emerged
 in the United Kingdom in the 1970s and 1980s with the seminal works of
 scholars like Mike Oliver, Vic Finkelstein, Colin Barnes and others.
 Disability is viewed as a social creation, the result of inaccessible
 environments and societal attitudes rather than individual
 'impairments'. Despite the model's

[AI] Kafila: Disability Rights And Parental Activism - Can They Co-Exist? Shubhangi Vaidya

2014-03-06 Thread avinash shahi
Guest Post by SHUBHANGI VAIDYA
http://kafila.org/2014/03/06/disability-rights-and-parental-activism-can-they-co-exist-shubhangi-vaidya/
Parents are valuable allies in the Disability Rights Movement thanks
to their intimate engagement with persons with disability. To view
them as representatives of a 'disabling' society does them a grave
injustice. However, the heated debates over the new Rights for Persons
with Disabilities Bill introduced in the Rajya Sabha  have seen a
confrontation of stances between two groups along these lines.

The first group consists of vocal self-advocates who point out a
number of weaknesses and contradictions in the Bill from a Rights
perspective, citing the provisions of the United Nations Convention on
the Rights of Persons with Disability ratified by India in 2007.

The other group is a loose coalition of 'cross-disability' activists
including lobbying for a speedy passage of the Bill, with crucial
amendments, in what is the last session  of this Parliament and of the
government of the day, which just happens to be UPA.

It is important to note that this Bill has not just dropped down from
the heavens; it is the end result of years of protracted
consultations, contestations, confrontation by stake-holders across
the sector. I do not propose here to go into the pros and cons of its
provisions; rather, I wish to highlight a rather disturbing trend that
I discern in the frenetic exchanges between some self-advocates in the
sector and parent activists on the social media.
Disabled activists seem to have bought the notion that parents are 'on
the other side', representing the voice of a disabling society that
would isolate and exclude persons with disability and subject them to
a regime of charity, pity and welfare. They would deny persons with
disability their rights, agency and full legal capacity thereby
entrapping them in relationships of power and dominance to which they
must meekly submit. This formulation is a product of the power and
appeal of the 'social model' of disability which has been the
ideological epicenter of the Disability Rights Movement which emerged
in the United Kingdom in the 1970s and 1980s with the seminal works of
scholars like Mike Oliver, Vic Finkelstein, Colin Barnes and others.
Disability is viewed as a social creation, the result of inaccessible
environments and societal attitudes rather than individual
'impairments'. Despite the model's great resonance and appeal to those
with physical disabilities, it lacks explanatory power when we talk
about conditions like autism, and other 'mental' disabilities where
there is an embodied reality, a real difference in being in the world
that must be acknowledged and respected.

For persons with autism, severe intellectual disabilities, etc. whose
mental capacities and modes of engagement with the world are
qualitatively different from the rest, the need for support is an
undeniable reality which it will be short sighted and cruel to deny.
To assert, for example that a person with severe autism is able to
exercise full legal capacity and that any attempt to provide
guardianship and support is plenary guardianship by any other name
betrays an appalling lack of awareness about the daily lived realities
of persons with 'high support needs' and their family. To assert that
special schools or home schooling violate the right to 'inclusive'
education displays a cosmetic understanding of the dynamics of
schooling in an overburdened and  under resourced environment. Merely
dumping a child in a classroom where her special needs are neither
understood nor addressed is not inclusion. If my child thrives, learns
skills and has a respectful and happy environment in a 'special'
school, am I denying her 'rights to inclusion' by not sending her to
an overcrowded classroom attended by an overworked, overwhelmed
'regular' teacher?

Parents have their hands full in dealing with the day to day realities
of caring for a child with disability alongside their other familial,
social and professional responsibilities. In addition, they must
perforce take on the role of advocacy for the needs of their children
and the struggle to obtain scarce services, a tall order indeed. Some
have established NGOs and centres that open up spaces for families
facing similar circumstances. The 'care-giver/NGO lobby' as I have
heard them derisively dubbed by some vocal activists are believed to
lack an understanding of the discourse underpinning the disability
movement, and are seen as mere opportunists trying to win favour from
the powers that be so that their NGOs may receive public attention and
 recognition and their own stature as the self-styled 'messiahs' of
the disabled  reinforced. This does grave injustice to the crucial
role played by these parent activists in getting disability on the map
and in creating awareness among professionals, policy makers and the
general public, in addition to providing desperately needed services,
no matter how 

Re: [AI] Kafila: Disability Rights And Parental Activism - Can They Co-Exist? Shubhangi Vaidya

2014-03-06 Thread Ketan Kothari
Hi friends,

Excellent and thoughtprovoking blog indeed.  I have been thinkind for
several years whether western models of disability could be
superimposed in a society that is ridden with so many inadequacies and
unsurmountable inequalities.

I firmly believe that parents need to be involved in the disability
movement at least for those disabilities that cannot speak for
themselves.  Also, treating disability as a homogeneous subject is
absolutely absurd.  A blind and orthopedically disabled is
comparatively better exposed than those with hearing disabilities and
the intellectually disabled and mentally retarded have a long way to
go.  Probably that is the reason why many corporates and civil society
organizations shy away from getting involved in our affairs.  I would
welcome a discussion on the topic.

I have some more to say subsequently.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 3/7/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Guest Post by SHUBHANGI VAIDYA
 http://kafila.org/2014/03/06/disability-rights-and-parental-activism-can-they-co-exist-shubhangi-vaidya/
 Parents are valuable allies in the Disability Rights Movement thanks
 to their intimate engagement with persons with disability. To view
 them as representatives of a 'disabling' society does them a grave
 injustice. However, the heated debates over the new Rights for Persons
 with Disabilities Bill introduced in the Rajya Sabha  have seen a
 confrontation of stances between two groups along these lines.

 The first group consists of vocal self-advocates who point out a
 number of weaknesses and contradictions in the Bill from a Rights
 perspective, citing the provisions of the United Nations Convention on
 the Rights of Persons with Disability ratified by India in 2007.

 The other group is a loose coalition of 'cross-disability' activists
 including lobbying for a speedy passage of the Bill, with crucial
 amendments, in what is the last session  of this Parliament and of the
 government of the day, which just happens to be UPA.

 It is important to note that this Bill has not just dropped down from
 the heavens; it is the end result of years of protracted
 consultations, contestations, confrontation by stake-holders across
 the sector. I do not propose here to go into the pros and cons of its
 provisions; rather, I wish to highlight a rather disturbing trend that
 I discern in the frenetic exchanges between some self-advocates in the
 sector and parent activists on the social media.
 Disabled activists seem to have bought the notion that parents are 'on
 the other side', representing the voice of a disabling society that
 would isolate and exclude persons with disability and subject them to
 a regime of charity, pity and welfare. They would deny persons with
 disability their rights, agency and full legal capacity thereby
 entrapping them in relationships of power and dominance to which they
 must meekly submit. This formulation is a product of the power and
 appeal of the 'social model' of disability which has been the
 ideological epicenter of the Disability Rights Movement which emerged
 in the United Kingdom in the 1970s and 1980s with the seminal works of
 scholars like Mike Oliver, Vic Finkelstein, Colin Barnes and others.
 Disability is viewed as a social creation, the result of inaccessible
 environments and societal attitudes rather than individual
 'impairments'. Despite the model's great resonance and appeal to those
 with physical disabilities, it lacks explanatory power when we talk
 about conditions like autism, and other 'mental' disabilities where
 there is an embodied reality, a real difference in being in the world
 that must be acknowledged and respected.

 For persons with autism, severe intellectual disabilities, etc. whose
 mental capacities and modes of engagement with the world are
 qualitatively different from the rest, the need for support is an
 undeniable reality which it will be short sighted and cruel to deny.
 To assert, for example that a person with severe autism is able to
 exercise full legal capacity and that any attempt to provide
 guardianship and support is plenary guardianship by any other name
 betrays an appalling lack of awareness about the daily lived realities
 of persons with 'high support needs' and their family. To assert that
 special schools or home schooling violate the right to 'inclusive'
 education displays a cosmetic understanding of the dynamics of
 schooling in an overburdened and  under resourced environment. Merely
 dumping a child in a classroom where her special needs are neither
 understood nor addressed is not inclusion. If my child thrives, learns
 skills and has a respectful and happy environment in a 'special'
 school, am I denying her 'rights to inclusion' by not sending her to
 an overcrowded classroom attended by an overworked, overwhelmed
 'regular' teacher?

 Parents have their hands full in dealing with the day to day realities
 of caring for a child with disability alongside