Re: [AI] UDID related questions

[vivek doddamani]

Friend, you enquire in Mathura District Hospital, there is seperate
counter for Medical Certificate & UDID Card, no need for any old
medical certificate just go there they will checkup your eyes and will
give you medical certificate according to your percentage of sight.

On 12/17/23, harish kotian  wrote:
> Hi Yd
>
> A few things that Minar has missed:
>
> To obtain a proper disability certificate, you need to get one from a
> government civil hospital.
>
> Usually a particular day
>
>   in a week is allotted for it, you need to find it before hand before
> you make a visit.
>
> While seeking for a disability certificate, also mention you need UDID
> card and optionally railway concession.
>
> Preferably be there before 9 am.
>
> UDID is evolving and it is designed to be a single point of
> authentication disability. It is linked to Adhar. It is supposed to be a
> single point of availing disability services. Disability services is
> essentially driven by states and services are yet to be built around
> UDID. Surely, it will happen over time.
>
> Harish
>
> On 12/15/2023 12:54 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) wrote:
>> Hi friends,
>> A few questions if y'all don't mind:
>>
>> 1. I've been hearing about two things: UDID, and disability certificate.
>> From the context of discussions it appears they are not the same thing. In
>> that case:
>> 1.1. Why two separate documents are necessary to prove disability?
>> 1.2. Which of the two is most important?
>> 1.3. Can you get one without the other?
>>
>> 2. Now that I have Aadhaar card, what is my next most important step
>> towards legal recognition of disability and inclusion in India? What is
>> the procedure to follow that step?
>> 3. From former discussions here it appears the whole country is not on the
>> same page as central Government, so that some states rebel from Central
>> Government regulation. For example there was talk of West Bengal not
>> accepting UDID procedure or some sort. I'm in Mathura Vrindavana. Is there
>> any location-specific context I should be aware of here?
>>
>> Thanks friends.
>>
>> Yamuna Jivana dasa
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vaibhav Bhandari
>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 11:16 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required for
>> banking facilities?)
>>
>> Yamuna,
>> the part where you've quoted from Section 2(1)(A), it is not in the 1st
>> July master circular; it is from the 1st October 2018 master circular.
>>
>> On 12/14/23, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) 
>> wrote:
>>> The consultant hardly speaks English. Still, I’ll send it off and hope
>>> for the best. Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
>>> On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:39 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia 
>>> Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required
>>> for banking facilities?)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Better to send in english only
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 9:28 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo),
>>> mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Rahul,
>>>
>>> Thanks for this feedback. Is the Hindi translation  done decently
>>> well? If you can confirm this I’m ready to send off the mail. This
>>> will be my first sort-of activist action in India! Quite nervous.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yamuna Jivana dasa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> 
>>>   [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>  ] On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 7:32 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia >>  >
>>> Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required
>>> for banking facilities?)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well written. Lets take it forward
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 5:17 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo),
>>> mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Rahul and all on this thread,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have drafted a letter to the bank official here at ICICI which I
>>> plan to send. First I would appreciate if you could look through the
>>> letter to see if it makes sense in the context of legal or
>>> professional style letters in the Indian context. Don’t be confused
>>> about my name: I used my legal birth documents name in the letter.
>>> Also please see if the translation into Hindi which follows after the
>>> English, makes sense – the translation was done by Google translate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any suggestions to change please feel free to let me know. The letter
>>> is below. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Yamuna Jivana dasa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please note for your convenience this letter is translated to Hindi
>>> script after the English below, using Google Translate.
>>>
>>> Dear Shashanki,
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AI] UDID related questions

[harish kotian]

Hi Yd

A few things that Minar has missed:

To obtain a proper disability certificate, you need to get one from a 
government civil hospital.


Usually a particular day

 in a week is allotted for it, you need to find it before hand before 
you make a visit.


While seeking for a disability certificate, also mention you need UDID 
card and optionally railway concession.


Preferably be there before 9 am.

UDID is evolving and it is designed to be a single point of 
authentication disability. It is linked to Adhar. It is supposed to be a 
single point of availing disability services. Disability services is 
essentially driven by states and services are yet to be built around 
UDID. Surely, it will happen over time.


Harish

On 12/15/2023 12:54 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) wrote:

Hi friends,
A few questions if y'all don't mind:

1. I've been hearing about two things: UDID, and disability certificate. From 
the context of discussions it appears they are not the same thing. In that case:
1.1. Why two separate documents are necessary to prove disability?
1.2. Which of the two is most important?
1.3. Can you get one without the other?

2. Now that I have Aadhaar card, what is my next most important step towards 
legal recognition of disability and inclusion in India? What is the procedure 
to follow that step?
3. From former discussions here it appears the whole country is not on the same 
page as central Government, so that some states rebel from Central Government 
regulation. For example there was talk of West Bengal not accepting UDID 
procedure or some sort. I'm in Mathura Vrindavana. Is there any 
location-specific context I should be aware of here?

Thanks friends.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Vaibhav Bhandari
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 11:16 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required for 
banking facilities?)

Yamuna,
the part where you've quoted from Section 2(1)(A), it is not in the 1st July 
master circular; it is from the 1st October 2018 master circular.

On 12/14/23, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)  wrote:

The consultant hardly speaks English. Still, I’ll send it off and hope
for the best. Thanks.



From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:39 PM
To: AccessIndia 
Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required
for banking facilities?)



Better to send in english only



On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 9:28 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo),
mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Rahul,

Thanks for this feedback. Is the Hindi translation  done decently
well? If you can confirm this I’m ready to send off the mail. This
will be my first sort-of activist action in India! Quite nervous.



Yamuna Jivana dasa



From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in

  [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 ] On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 7:32 PM
To: AccessIndia mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >
Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required
for banking facilities?)



Well written. Lets take it forward



On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 5:17 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo),
mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Rahul and all on this thread,



I have drafted a letter to the bank official here at ICICI which I
plan to send. First I would appreciate if you could look through the
letter to see if it makes sense in the context of legal or
professional style letters in the Indian context. Don’t be confused
about my name: I used my legal birth documents name in the letter.
Also please see if the translation into Hindi which follows after the
English, makes sense – the translation was done by Google translate.



Any suggestions to change please feel free to let me know. The letter
is below. Thanks.

Yamuna Jivana dasa



Please note for your convenience this letter is translated to Hindi
script after the English below, using Google Translate.

Dear Shashanki,



This is Yoganathan Khandoo, your NRI account holder blind customer
formerly from South Africa. I opened my account along with my wife
Sherry Ann Khandoo. I trust you are well.



As I have been living in Vrindavan for over a year, I now wish to
close my NRI account and convert to local account. I also now have
acquired Aadhaar card to facilitate this process.



Before doing this, I wish to clarify that for my local account I wish
to use my own fingerprint to sign all account opening documents.
Previously when we opened my NRI account it was suggested by you that
my wife must sign all my documents. I have since learnt that as per
RBI guidelines, people who cannot use pen signatures such as the
blind, illit

Re: [AI] UDID related questions

[Rahul Bhatia]

Hi prabhu g i am also from vrindavan mathura i  think we  spoke earlier
also. I can guide you to get disability certificate and UDID from mathura
district . Contact me off list

On Fri, 15 Dec, 2023, 1:16 pm Minar Singh,  wrote:

> Hello Yamuna,
> Disability certificate proves the severity of a disability person has
> making him eligible to avail the benefits for persons with disabilities
> like various types of reservation and rebets and disability pension
> provided by central and state governments.
> UDID Card or Unique Disability Identity card is an initiative by
> Government of India with a view of creating a National Database for PwDs,
> and to issue a Unique Disability Identity Card to each person with
> disabilities.
> It is mandatory to have a disability certificate for UDID registration.
> I hope above description will help you to understand the differences
> between these 2 documents.
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:54 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) <
> ykhan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi friends,
>> A few questions if y'all don't mind:
>>
>> 1. I've been hearing about two things: UDID, and disability certificate.
>> From the context of discussions it appears they are not the same thing. In
>> that case:
>> 1.1. Why two separate documents are necessary to prove disability?
>> 1.2. Which of the two is most important?
>> 1.3. Can you get one without the other?
>>
>> 2. Now that I have Aadhaar card, what is my next most important step
>> towards legal recognition of disability and inclusion in India? What is the
>> procedure to follow that step?
>> 3. From former discussions here it appears the whole country is not on
>> the same page as central Government, so that some states rebel from Central
>> Government regulation. For example there was talk of West Bengal not
>> accepting UDID procedure or some sort. I'm in Mathura Vrindavana. Is there
>> any location-specific context I should be aware of here?
>>
>> Thanks friends.
>>
>> Yamuna Jivana dasa
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vaibhav Bhandari
>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 11:16 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required for
>> banking facilities?)
>>
>> Yamuna,
>> the part where you've quoted from Section 2(1)(A), it is not in the 1st
>> July master circular; it is from the 1st October 2018 master circular.
>>
>> On 12/14/23, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) 
>> wrote:
>> > The consultant hardly speaks English. Still, I’ll send it off and hope
>> > for the best. Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> > [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
>> > On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:39 PM
>> > To: AccessIndia 
>> > Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required
>> > for banking facilities?)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Better to send in english only
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 9:28 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo),
>> > mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Rahul,
>> >
>> > Thanks for this feedback. Is the Hindi translation  done decently
>> > well? If you can confirm this I’m ready to send off the mail. This
>> > will be my first sort-of activist action in India! Quite nervous.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yamuna Jivana dasa
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> > 
>> >  [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> >  ] On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 7:32 PM
>> > To: AccessIndia > >  >
>> > Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required
>> > for banking facilities?)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Well written. Lets take it forward
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 5:17 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo),
>> > mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Rahul and all on this thread,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I have drafted a letter to the bank official here at ICICI which I
>> > plan to send. First I would appreciate if you could look through the
>> > letter to see if it makes sense in the context of legal or
>> > professional style letters in the Indian context. Don’t be confused
>> > about my name: I used my legal birth documents name in the letter.
>> > Also please see if the translation into Hindi which follows after the
>> > English, makes sense – the translation was done by Google translate.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Any suggestions to change please feel free to let me know. The letter
>> > is below. Thanks.
>> >
>> > Yamuna Jivana dasa
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Please note for your convenience this letter is translated to Hindi
>> > script after the English below, using Google Translate.
>> >
>> > Dear Shashanki,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > This is Yoganathan Khandoo, your NRI acc

Re: [AI] UDID related questions

[Minar Singh]

Hello Yamuna,
Disability certificate proves the severity of a disability person has
making him eligible to avail the benefits for persons with disabilities
like various types of reservation and rebets and disability pension
provided by central and state governments.
UDID Card or Unique Disability Identity card is an initiative by Government
of India with a view of creating a National Database for PwDs, and to issue
a Unique Disability Identity Card to each person with disabilities.
It is mandatory to have a disability certificate for UDID registration.
I hope above description will help you to understand the differences
between these 2 documents.
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:54 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) <
ykhan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi friends,
> A few questions if y'all don't mind:
>
> 1. I've been hearing about two things: UDID, and disability certificate.
> From the context of discussions it appears they are not the same thing. In
> that case:
> 1.1. Why two separate documents are necessary to prove disability?
> 1.2. Which of the two is most important?
> 1.3. Can you get one without the other?
>
> 2. Now that I have Aadhaar card, what is my next most important step
> towards legal recognition of disability and inclusion in India? What is the
> procedure to follow that step?
> 3. From former discussions here it appears the whole country is not on the
> same page as central Government, so that some states rebel from Central
> Government regulation. For example there was talk of West Bengal not
> accepting UDID procedure or some sort. I'm in Mathura Vrindavana. Is there
> any location-specific context I should be aware of here?
>
> Thanks friends.
>
> Yamuna Jivana dasa
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vaibhav Bhandari
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 11:16 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required for
> banking facilities?)
>
> Yamuna,
> the part where you've quoted from Section 2(1)(A), it is not in the 1st
> July master circular; it is from the 1st October 2018 master circular.
>
> On 12/14/23, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) 
> wrote:
> > The consultant hardly speaks English. Still, I’ll send it off and hope
> > for the best. Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
> > On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
> > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:39 PM
> > To: AccessIndia 
> > Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required
> > for banking facilities?)
> >
> >
> >
> > Better to send in english only
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 9:28 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo),
> > mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Rahul,
> >
> > Thanks for this feedback. Is the Hindi translation  done decently
> > well? If you can confirm this I’m ready to send off the mail. This
> > will be my first sort-of activist action in India! Quite nervous.
> >
> >
> >
> > Yamuna Jivana dasa
> >
> >
> >
> > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > 
> >  [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >  ] On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
> > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 7:32 PM
> > To: AccessIndia  >  >
> > Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required
> > for banking facilities?)
> >
> >
> >
> > Well written. Lets take it forward
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 5:17 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo),
> > mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Rahul and all on this thread,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have drafted a letter to the bank official here at ICICI which I
> > plan to send. First I would appreciate if you could look through the
> > letter to see if it makes sense in the context of legal or
> > professional style letters in the Indian context. Don’t be confused
> > about my name: I used my legal birth documents name in the letter.
> > Also please see if the translation into Hindi which follows after the
> > English, makes sense – the translation was done by Google translate.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any suggestions to change please feel free to let me know. The letter
> > is below. Thanks.
> >
> > Yamuna Jivana dasa
> >
> >
> >
> > Please note for your convenience this letter is translated to Hindi
> > script after the English below, using Google Translate.
> >
> > Dear Shashanki,
> >
> >
> >
> > This is Yoganathan Khandoo, your NRI account holder blind customer
> > formerly from South Africa. I opened my account along with my wife
> > Sherry Ann Khandoo. I trust you are well.
> >
> >
> >
> > As I have been living in Vrindavan for over a year, I now wish to
> > close my NRI account and convert to local account. I also now have
> > acquired Aadhaar card to facilitate this process.
> >
> >
> >
> > Before doin

[AI] UDID related questions

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

Hi friends,
A few questions if y'all don't mind:

1. I've been hearing about two things: UDID, and disability certificate. From 
the context of discussions it appears they are not the same thing. In that case:
1.1. Why two separate documents are necessary to prove disability?
1.2. Which of the two is most important?
1.3. Can you get one without the other?

2. Now that I have Aadhaar card, what is my next most important step towards 
legal recognition of disability and inclusion in India? What is the procedure 
to follow that step?
3. From former discussions here it appears the whole country is not on the same 
page as central Government, so that some states rebel from Central Government 
regulation. For example there was talk of West Bengal not accepting UDID 
procedure or some sort. I'm in Mathura Vrindavana. Is there any 
location-specific context I should be aware of here?

Thanks friends.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Vaibhav Bhandari
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 11:16 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required for 
banking facilities?)

Yamuna,
the part where you've quoted from Section 2(1)(A), it is not in the 1st July 
master circular; it is from the 1st October 2018 master circular.

On 12/14/23, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)  wrote:
> The consultant hardly speaks English. Still, I’ll send it off and hope 
> for the best. Thanks.
>
>
>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
> On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:39 PM
> To: AccessIndia 
> Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required 
> for banking facilities?)
>
>
>
> Better to send in english only
>
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 9:28 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo), 
> mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Hi Rahul,
>
> Thanks for this feedback. Is the Hindi translation  done decently 
> well? If you can confirm this I’m ready to send off the mail. This 
> will be my first sort-of activist action in India! Quite nervous.
>
>
>
> Yamuna Jivana dasa
>
>
>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> 
>  [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>  ] On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 7:32 PM
> To: AccessIndia   >
> Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required 
> for banking facilities?)
>
>
>
> Well written. Lets take it forward
>
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 5:17 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo), 
> mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Hi Rahul and all on this thread,
>
>
>
> I have drafted a letter to the bank official here at ICICI which I 
> plan to send. First I would appreciate if you could look through the 
> letter to see if it makes sense in the context of legal or 
> professional style letters in the Indian context. Don’t be confused 
> about my name: I used my legal birth documents name in the letter. 
> Also please see if the translation into Hindi which follows after the 
> English, makes sense – the translation was done by Google translate.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions to change please feel free to let me know. The letter 
> is below. Thanks.
>
> Yamuna Jivana dasa
>
>
>
> Please note for your convenience this letter is translated to Hindi 
> script after the English below, using Google Translate.
>
> Dear Shashanki,
>
>
>
> This is Yoganathan Khandoo, your NRI account holder blind customer 
> formerly from South Africa. I opened my account along with my wife 
> Sherry Ann Khandoo. I trust you are well.
>
>
>
> As I have been living in Vrindavan for over a year, I now wish to 
> close my NRI account and convert to local account. I also now have 
> acquired Aadhaar card to facilitate this process.
>
>
>
> Before doing this, I wish to clarify that for my local account I wish 
> to use my own fingerprint to sign all account opening documents. 
> Previously when we opened my NRI account it was suggested by you that 
> my wife must sign all my documents. I have since learnt that as per 
> RBI guidelines, people who cannot use pen signatures such as the 
> blind, illiterate or dyslectic may use an alternate form of signature 
> including fingerprint signatures. I wish to avail of this option only 
> to assert my dignity of independence as a differently abled 
> individual. It places me as a male authority over my own family, 
> affording me the right to exercise my own choice and in terms of human 
> rights afforded by Indian legislation which I choose to avail of. For 
> me it is a question of dignity, wherein I stand in support of people with 
> disabilities at large.
>
>
>
> In support of my own case, please find the following National 
> legislation and RBI Banking circular referen