Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Dear Harish

The kind of volley of thorns thrown at me the moment I dared open my mouth 
about talking ATM India and my survey yielding no talking ATM in main areas of 
Nagpur, left me in a semi comatose state.

I unconditionally accept that all ATMs mentioned on the site are fully talking 
and withdraw all my observations  with more than sincere apologies.

Long live talking ATMs, long live banks and longer still my blind brethren!


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
harish
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 11:05 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Dear Rajesh

I have been following this thread closely and at point, I did not find any
post which suggested they would not drop wrong labeling as Accessible Atm.
Nevertheless, I called folks at TalkingATM and was told, they did not
recieve any specific ATM which was wrongly labeled.

Positive critisim is welcome however sharp generalisation would be
demotivating for sure.

We should be aware of it when interacting in public space.
User rating, feedback is now / is being introduced. This should give users
better perspective and again it is our responsibility to give the feedback
for it work effectively.
Harish.

- Original Message -
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held


> Well, a small correction.
> Due to mis information by banks, and talking ATM India's non committal
> attitude about removing reported non-talking ATMs from the list, many of
> talking ATMs may not provide you with all options said in voice guidance.
> You may have to be content with only welcome and wait messages...
> Just being pragmatic, nothing to hurt dedicated work being done, please.
>
>
> सादर / With thanks & Regards
> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
> नागपुर Nagpur
>
> 0712 2806846
>
> President
> VIBEWA
> Co-Moderator
> VIB-India
>
> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
> laughter.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of Rahul Gambhir
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 3:22 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>
> Hello Nitesh
>
> At present talking ATMS provides following features with voice guidance
> Balance enquiry
> Cash withdrawal
> Pin Change.
> For more information please check out resources page on talking atm
> india website. http://talkingatmindia.org/Resources.aspx
>
> Best Regards
> Rahul
>
>
> On 5/15/16, nitesh gupta <nitesh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have a question. r talking ATMS fully accessible?
>> I mean to say that can a blind do all the things like a sighted in these
>> ATMS?
>>
>> On 5/11/16, Harish <hp.kot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "harish" <har...@accessindia.org.in>
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:51 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> To my understanding, the data sourced from Banks, which is labeled as
>>>> fully accessible by them. It is not at all posible this portal to
>>>> physically verify the data. It is here that the role of the community
>>>> begins.
>>>> Firstly we need to use the service to its fullest and provide the
>>>> feedback
>>>>
>>>> on any of the data is not correct. When this data is brought to the
>>>> notice
>>>>
>>>> of the Bank officials, they shall of course correct the error, more
>>>> importantly they will be more careful and have better understanding why
>>>> they labeled it as accessible in the first place.
>>>> T

Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[harish]

Dear Rajesh

I have been following this thread closely and at point, I did not find any 
post which suggested they would not drop wrong labeling as Accessible Atm.
Nevertheless, I called folks at TalkingATM and was told, they did not 
recieve any specific ATM which was wrongly labeled.


Positive critisim is welcome however sharp generalisation would be 
demotivating for sure.


We should be aware of it when interacting in public space.
User rating, feedback is now / is being introduced. This should give users 
better perspective and again it is our responsibility to give the feedback 
for it work effectively.

Harish.

- Original Message - 
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held



Well, a small correction.
Due to mis information by banks, and talking ATM India's non committal 
attitude about removing reported non-talking ATMs from the list, many of 
talking ATMs may not provide you with all options said in voice guidance.

You may have to be content with only welcome and wait messages...
Just being pragmatic, nothing to hurt dedicated work being done, please.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and 
laughter.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Rahul Gambhir

Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 3:22 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Hello Nitesh

At present talking ATMS provides following features with voice guidance
Balance enquiry
Cash withdrawal
Pin Change.
For more information please check out resources page on talking atm
india website. http://talkingatmindia.org/Resources.aspx

Best Regards
Rahul


On 5/15/16, nitesh gupta <nitesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a question. r talking ATMS fully accessible?
I mean to say that can a blind do all the things like a sighted in these
ATMS?

On 5/11/16, Harish <hp.kot...@gmail.com> wrote:

I
- Original Message -
From: "harish" <har...@accessindia.org.in>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held



Hi
To my understanding, the data sourced from Banks, which is labeled as
fully accessible by them. It is not at all posible this portal to
physically verify the data. It is here that the role of the community
begins.
Firstly we need to use the service to its fullest and provide the
feedback

on any of the data is not correct. When this data is brought to the
notice

of the Bank officials, they shall of course correct the error, more
importantly they will be more careful and have better understanding why
they labeled it as accessible in the first place.
There would definately some learning phase and such feedback  is a step
in

the right direction however the feedback should be specific and not
general in this case.
Harish Kotian

- Original Message -
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held



Friends
There was a news about workshop about talking ATMs wherein about 40
blind

persons were trained in using them at Nagpur recently.

This prompted me to take out the list of talking ATMs in Nagpur from
www.talkingatmindia.in
I found about 49 talking ATMs listed.

I along with a friend, an escort and a driver undertook the survey of
about ten such ATMs in the posh localities of Nagpur on Saturday, May 
7,

2016 from 3 P.M. to 6 P.M.

I am sorry to say that none of the ATMs we surveyed is totally 
talking.

Some are virtually silent, except the beeping sound of the buttons,
others do welcome and bid us goodbye, prompting to enter secret code 
and

wait for transaction to be completed.

Now, friends all of you would agree that such partially talking ATMs 
are
useless to say the least and tantalizing illusions for the blind to 
say

the worst.

I am amazed as to how talkingatmindia is taking the bankers at face
value

and swelling the list of talking ATMs in India.
Being a central banker, I know fully well how the bankers indulge in
window dressing to show compliance.
I know a template exists which has to be followed to make it ful

Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Sure, why not?
Will revert with feedback.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 11:17 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Rajesh 
How about spending a few more hours this Sunday and checking the other listed 
ATMs in your city?
Kanchan 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 16 May 2016 11:00
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Well, a small correction.
Due to mis information by banks, and talking ATM India's non committal attitude 
about removing reported non-talking ATMs from the list, many of talking ATMs 
may not provide you with all options said in voice guidance.
You may have to be content with only welcome and wait messages...
Just being pragmatic, nothing to hurt dedicated work being done, please.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Rahul Gambhir
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 3:22 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Hello Nitesh

At present talking ATMS provides following features with voice guidance Balance 
enquiry Cash withdrawal Pin Change.
For more information please check out resources page on talking atm india 
website. http://talkingatmindia.org/Resources.aspx

Best Regards
Rahul


On 5/15/16, nitesh gupta <nitesh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a question. r talking ATMS fully accessible?
> I mean to say that can a blind do all the things like a sighted in 
> these ATMS?
>
> On 5/11/16, Harish <hp.kot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "harish" <har...@accessindia.org.in>
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>> To my understanding, the data sourced from Banks, which is labeled 
>>> as fully accessible by them. It is not at all posible this portal to 
>>> physically verify the data. It is here that the role of the 
>>> community begins.
>>> Firstly we need to use the service to its fullest and provide the 
>>> feedback
>>>
>>> on any of the data is not correct. When this data is brought to the 
>>> notice
>>>
>>> of the Bank officials, they shall of course correct the error, more 
>>> importantly they will be more careful and have better understanding 
>>> why they labeled it as accessible in the first place.
>>> There would definately some learning phase and such feedback  is a 
>>> step in
>>>
>>> the right direction however the feedback should be specific and not 
>>> general in this case.
>>> Harish Kotian
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>>> concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>>>
>>>
>>>> Friends
>>>> There was a news about workshop about talking ATMs wherein about 40 
>>>> blind
>>>>
>>>> persons were trained in using them at Nagpur recently.
>>>>
>>>> This prompted me to take out the list of talking ATMs in Nagpur 
>>>> from www.talkingatmindia.in I found about 49 talking ATMs listed.
>>>>
>>>> I along with a friend, an escort and a driver undertook the survey 
>>>> of about ten such ATMs in the posh localities of Nagpur

Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[Kanchan Pamnani]

Rajesh 
How about spending a few more hours this Sunday and checking the other listed 
ATMs in your city?
Kanchan 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 16 May 2016 11:00
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Well, a small correction.
Due to mis information by banks, and talking ATM India's non committal attitude 
about removing reported non-talking ATMs from the list, many of talking ATMs 
may not provide you with all options said in voice guidance.
You may have to be content with only welcome and wait messages...
Just being pragmatic, nothing to hurt dedicated work being done, please.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Rahul Gambhir
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 3:22 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Hello Nitesh

At present talking ATMS provides following features with voice guidance Balance 
enquiry Cash withdrawal Pin Change.
For more information please check out resources page on talking atm india 
website. http://talkingatmindia.org/Resources.aspx

Best Regards
Rahul


On 5/15/16, nitesh gupta <nitesh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a question. r talking ATMS fully accessible?
> I mean to say that can a blind do all the things like a sighted in 
> these ATMS?
>
> On 5/11/16, Harish <hp.kot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "harish" <har...@accessindia.org.in>
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>> To my understanding, the data sourced from Banks, which is labeled 
>>> as fully accessible by them. It is not at all posible this portal to 
>>> physically verify the data. It is here that the role of the 
>>> community begins.
>>> Firstly we need to use the service to its fullest and provide the 
>>> feedback
>>>
>>> on any of the data is not correct. When this data is brought to the 
>>> notice
>>>
>>> of the Bank officials, they shall of course correct the error, more 
>>> importantly they will be more careful and have better understanding 
>>> why they labeled it as accessible in the first place.
>>> There would definately some learning phase and such feedback  is a 
>>> step in
>>>
>>> the right direction however the feedback should be specific and not 
>>> general in this case.
>>> Harish Kotian
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>>> concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>>>
>>>
>>>> Friends
>>>> There was a news about workshop about talking ATMs wherein about 40 
>>>> blind
>>>>
>>>> persons were trained in using them at Nagpur recently.
>>>>
>>>> This prompted me to take out the list of talking ATMs in Nagpur 
>>>> from www.talkingatmindia.in I found about 49 talking ATMs listed.
>>>>
>>>> I along with a friend, an escort and a driver undertook the survey 
>>>> of about ten such ATMs in the posh localities of Nagpur on 
>>>> Saturday, May 7,
>>>> 2016 from 3 P.M. to 6 P.M.
>>>>
>>>> I am sorry to say that none of the ATMs we surveyed is totally talking.
>>>> Some are virtually silent, except the beeping sound of the buttons, 
>>>> others do welcome and bid us goodbye, prompting to enter secret 
>>>> code and wait for transaction to be completed.
>>>>
>>>> Now, friends all of you would agree that such partially talking 
>>>> ATMs are useless to say the least and tantalizing illusions for the 
>>>> blind to say the worst.

Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Well, a small correction.
Due to mis information by banks, and talking ATM India's non committal attitude 
about removing reported non-talking ATMs from the list, many of talking ATMs 
may not provide you with all options said in voice guidance.
You may have to be content with only welcome and wait messages...
Just being pragmatic, nothing to hurt dedicated work being done, please.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Rahul Gambhir
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 3:22 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Hello Nitesh

At present talking ATMS provides following features with voice guidance
Balance enquiry
Cash withdrawal
Pin Change.
For more information please check out resources page on talking atm
india website. http://talkingatmindia.org/Resources.aspx

Best Regards
Rahul


On 5/15/16, nitesh gupta <nitesh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a question. r talking ATMS fully accessible?
> I mean to say that can a blind do all the things like a sighted in these
> ATMS?
>
> On 5/11/16, Harish <hp.kot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "harish" <har...@accessindia.org.in>
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>> To my understanding, the data sourced from Banks, which is labeled as
>>> fully accessible by them. It is not at all posible this portal to
>>> physically verify the data. It is here that the role of the community
>>> begins.
>>> Firstly we need to use the service to its fullest and provide the
>>> feedback
>>>
>>> on any of the data is not correct. When this data is brought to the
>>> notice
>>>
>>> of the Bank officials, they shall of course correct the error, more
>>> importantly they will be more careful and have better understanding why
>>> they labeled it as accessible in the first place.
>>> There would definately some learning phase and such feedback  is a step
>>> in
>>>
>>> the right direction however the feedback should be specific and not
>>> general in this case.
>>> Harish Kotian
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>>>
>>>
>>>> Friends
>>>> There was a news about workshop about talking ATMs wherein about 40
>>>> blind
>>>>
>>>> persons were trained in using them at Nagpur recently.
>>>>
>>>> This prompted me to take out the list of talking ATMs in Nagpur from
>>>> www.talkingatmindia.in
>>>> I found about 49 talking ATMs listed.
>>>>
>>>> I along with a friend, an escort and a driver undertook the survey of
>>>> about ten such ATMs in the posh localities of Nagpur on Saturday, May 7,
>>>> 2016 from 3 P.M. to 6 P.M.
>>>>
>>>> I am sorry to say that none of the ATMs we surveyed is totally talking.
>>>> Some are virtually silent, except the beeping sound of the buttons,
>>>> others do welcome and bid us goodbye, prompting to enter secret code and
>>>> wait for transaction to be completed.
>>>>
>>>> Now, friends all of you would agree that such partially talking ATMs are
>>>> useless to say the least and tantalizing illusions for the blind to say
>>>> the worst.
>>>>
>>>> I am amazed as to how talkingatmindia is taking the bankers at face
>>>> value
>>>>
>>>> and swelling the list of talking ATMs in India.
>>>> Being a central banker, I know fully well how the bankers indulge in
>>>> window dressing to show compliance.
>>>> I know a template exists which has to be followe

Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[Rahul Gambhir]

Hello Nitesh

At present talking ATMS provides following features with voice guidance
Balance enquiry
Cash withdrawal
Pin Change.
For more information please check out resources page on talking atm
india website. http://talkingatmindia.org/Resources.aspx

Best Regards
Rahul


On 5/15/16, nitesh gupta <nitesh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a question. r talking ATMS fully accessible?
> I mean to say that can a blind do all the things like a sighted in these
> ATMS?
>
> On 5/11/16, Harish <hp.kot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "harish" <har...@accessindia.org.in>
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>> To my understanding, the data sourced from Banks, which is labeled as
>>> fully accessible by them. It is not at all posible this portal to
>>> physically verify the data. It is here that the role of the community
>>> begins.
>>> Firstly we need to use the service to its fullest and provide the
>>> feedback
>>>
>>> on any of the data is not correct. When this data is brought to the
>>> notice
>>>
>>> of the Bank officials, they shall of course correct the error, more
>>> importantly they will be more careful and have better understanding why
>>> they labeled it as accessible in the first place.
>>> There would definately some learning phase and such feedback  is a step
>>> in
>>>
>>> the right direction however the feedback should be specific and not
>>> general in this case.
>>> Harish Kotian
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>>>
>>>
>>>> Friends
>>>> There was a news about workshop about talking ATMs wherein about 40
>>>> blind
>>>>
>>>> persons were trained in using them at Nagpur recently.
>>>>
>>>> This prompted me to take out the list of talking ATMs in Nagpur from
>>>> www.talkingatmindia.in
>>>> I found about 49 talking ATMs listed.
>>>>
>>>> I along with a friend, an escort and a driver undertook the survey of
>>>> about ten such ATMs in the posh localities of Nagpur on Saturday, May 7,
>>>> 2016 from 3 P.M. to 6 P.M.
>>>>
>>>> I am sorry to say that none of the ATMs we surveyed is totally talking.
>>>> Some are virtually silent, except the beeping sound of the buttons,
>>>> others do welcome and bid us goodbye, prompting to enter secret code and
>>>> wait for transaction to be completed.
>>>>
>>>> Now, friends all of you would agree that such partially talking ATMs are
>>>> useless to say the least and tantalizing illusions for the blind to say
>>>> the worst.
>>>>
>>>> I am amazed as to how talkingatmindia is taking the bankers at face
>>>> value
>>>>
>>>> and swelling the list of talking ATMs in India.
>>>> Being a central banker, I know fully well how the bankers indulge in
>>>> window dressing to show compliance.
>>>> I know a template exists which has to be followed to make it fully
>>>> talking.
>>>> But the website does not seem to have bothered to verify actually
>>>> whether
>>>>
>>>> they are talking.
>>>>
>>>> I urge to the site owners to take down the list and include any ATM
>>>> actually  after having its accessibility fully verified.
>>>> Don't just indulge in numbers like bankers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> सादर / With thanks & Regards
>>>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
>>>> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
>>>> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
>>>> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
>>>> नागपुर Nagpur
>>>>
>>>> 0712 2806846
>>>>
>>>> President
>>>> VIBEWA
>>>> Co-Moderator
>>>> VIB-India
>>>>
>>>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Posi

Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[Kanchan Pamnani]

Yes we can. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
nitesh gupta
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 2:52 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

I have a question. r talking ATMS fully accessible?
I mean to say that can a blind do all the things like a sighted in these ATMS?

On 5/11/16, Harish <hp.kot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I
> - Original Message -
> From: "harish" <har...@accessindia.org.in>
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>
>
>> Hi
>> To my understanding, the data sourced from Banks, which is labeled as
>> fully accessible by them. It is not at all posible this portal to
>> physically verify the data. It is here that the role of the community
>> begins.
>> Firstly we need to use the service to its fullest and provide the feedback
>>
>> on any of the data is not correct. When this data is brought to the notice
>>
>> of the Bank officials, they shall of course correct the error, more
>> importantly they will be more careful and have better understanding why
>> they labeled it as accessible in the first place.
>> There would definately some learning phase and such feedback  is a step in
>>
>> the right direction however the feedback should be specific and not
>> general in this case.
>> Harish Kotian
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>>
>>
>>> Friends
>>> There was a news about workshop about talking ATMs wherein about 40 blind
>>>
>>> persons were trained in using them at Nagpur recently.
>>>
>>> This prompted me to take out the list of talking ATMs in Nagpur from
>>> www.talkingatmindia.in
>>> I found about 49 talking ATMs listed.
>>>
>>> I along with a friend, an escort and a driver undertook the survey of
>>> about ten such ATMs in the posh localities of Nagpur on Saturday, May 7,
>>> 2016 from 3 P.M. to 6 P.M.
>>>
>>> I am sorry to say that none of the ATMs we surveyed is totally talking.
>>> Some are virtually silent, except the beeping sound of the buttons,
>>> others do welcome and bid us goodbye, prompting to enter secret code and
>>> wait for transaction to be completed.
>>>
>>> Now, friends all of you would agree that such partially talking ATMs are
>>> useless to say the least and tantalizing illusions for the blind to say
>>> the worst.
>>>
>>> I am amazed as to how talkingatmindia is taking the bankers at face value
>>>
>>> and swelling the list of talking ATMs in India.
>>> Being a central banker, I know fully well how the bankers indulge in
>>> window dressing to show compliance.
>>> I know a template exists which has to be followed to make it fully
>>> talking.
>>> But the website does not seem to have bothered to verify actually whether
>>>
>>> they are talking.
>>>
>>> I urge to the site owners to take down the list and include any ATM
>>> actually  after having its accessibility fully verified.
>>> Don't just indulge in numbers like bankers.
>>>
>>>
>>> सादर / With thanks & Regards
>>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
>>> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
>>> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
>>> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
>>> नागपुर Nagpur
>>>
>>> 0712 2806846
>>>
>>> President
>>> VIBEWA
>>> Co-Moderator
>>> VIB-India
>>>
>>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
>>> laughter.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh
>>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 3:13 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>>>
>>> Well, I have

Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[nitesh gupta]

I have a question. r talking ATMS fully accessible?
I mean to say that can a blind do all the things like a sighted in these ATMS?

On 5/11/16, Harish <hp.kot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I
> - Original Message -
> From: "harish" <har...@accessindia.org.in>
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>
>
>> Hi
>> To my understanding, the data sourced from Banks, which is labeled as
>> fully accessible by them. It is not at all posible this portal to
>> physically verify the data. It is here that the role of the community
>> begins.
>> Firstly we need to use the service to its fullest and provide the feedback
>>
>> on any of the data is not correct. When this data is brought to the notice
>>
>> of the Bank officials, they shall of course correct the error, more
>> importantly they will be more careful and have better understanding why
>> they labeled it as accessible in the first place.
>> There would definately some learning phase and such feedback  is a step in
>>
>> the right direction however the feedback should be specific and not
>> general in this case.
>> Harish Kotian
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>>
>>
>>> Friends
>>> There was a news about workshop about talking ATMs wherein about 40 blind
>>>
>>> persons were trained in using them at Nagpur recently.
>>>
>>> This prompted me to take out the list of talking ATMs in Nagpur from
>>> www.talkingatmindia.in
>>> I found about 49 talking ATMs listed.
>>>
>>> I along with a friend, an escort and a driver undertook the survey of
>>> about ten such ATMs in the posh localities of Nagpur on Saturday, May 7,
>>> 2016 from 3 P.M. to 6 P.M.
>>>
>>> I am sorry to say that none of the ATMs we surveyed is totally talking.
>>> Some are virtually silent, except the beeping sound of the buttons,
>>> others do welcome and bid us goodbye, prompting to enter secret code and
>>> wait for transaction to be completed.
>>>
>>> Now, friends all of you would agree that such partially talking ATMs are
>>> useless to say the least and tantalizing illusions for the blind to say
>>> the worst.
>>>
>>> I am amazed as to how talkingatmindia is taking the bankers at face value
>>>
>>> and swelling the list of talking ATMs in India.
>>> Being a central banker, I know fully well how the bankers indulge in
>>> window dressing to show compliance.
>>> I know a template exists which has to be followed to make it fully
>>> talking.
>>> But the website does not seem to have bothered to verify actually whether
>>>
>>> they are talking.
>>>
>>> I urge to the site owners to take down the list and include any ATM
>>> actually  after having its accessibility fully verified.
>>> Don't just indulge in numbers like bankers.
>>>
>>>
>>> सादर / With thanks & Regards
>>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
>>> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
>>> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
>>> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
>>> नागपुर Nagpur
>>>
>>> 0712 2806846
>>>
>>> President
>>> VIBEWA
>>> Co-Moderator
>>> VIB-India
>>>
>>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
>>> laughter.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh
>>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 3:13 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held
>>>
>>> Well, I have more to say on this, as well as on talkingatmindia,
>>> Please wait.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh
>>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 11:48 A

Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[Harish]

I
- Original Message - 
From: "harish" <har...@accessindia.org.in>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held



Hi
To my understanding, the data sourced from Banks, which is labeled as 
fully accessible by them. It is not at all posible this portal to 
physically verify the data. It is here that the role of the community 
begins.
Firstly we need to use the service to its fullest and provide the feedback 
on any of the data is not correct. When this data is brought to the notice 
of the Bank officials, they shall of course correct the error, more 
importantly they will be more careful and have better understanding why 
they labeled it as accessible in the first place.
There would definately some learning phase and such feedback  is a step in 
the right direction however the feedback should be specific and not 
general in this case.

Harish Kotian

- Original Message - 
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held



Friends
There was a news about workshop about talking ATMs wherein about 40 blind 
persons were trained in using them at Nagpur recently.


This prompted me to take out the list of talking ATMs in Nagpur from
www.talkingatmindia.in
I found about 49 talking ATMs listed.

I along with a friend, an escort and a driver undertook the survey of 
about ten such ATMs in the posh localities of Nagpur on Saturday, May 7, 
2016 from 3 P.M. to 6 P.M.


I am sorry to say that none of the ATMs we surveyed is totally talking.
Some are virtually silent, except the beeping sound of the buttons, 
others do welcome and bid us goodbye, prompting to enter secret code and 
wait for transaction to be completed.


Now, friends all of you would agree that such partially talking ATMs are 
useless to say the least and tantalizing illusions for the blind to say 
the worst.


I am amazed as to how talkingatmindia is taking the bankers at face value 
and swelling the list of talking ATMs in India.
Being a central banker, I know fully well how the bankers indulge in 
window dressing to show compliance.
I know a template exists which has to be followed to make it fully 
talking.
But the website does not seem to have bothered to verify actually whether 
they are talking.


I urge to the site owners to take down the list and include any ATM 
actually  after having its accessibility fully verified.

Don't just indulge in numbers like bankers.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and 
laughter.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh

Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 3:13 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Well, I have more to say on this, as well as on talkingatmindia,
Please wait.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh

Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 11:48 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled.

Subject: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Workshop on talking ATMs held for visually impaired
Barkha Mathur
| TNN | May 7, 2016, 06.59 PM IST

NAGPUR: Jidnyasa Chawaldhal has been striving to make life of physically 
challenged and those with impaired vision better. Since the time she lost 
her
vision at the age of 18, Jidnyasa has been evolving methods that reduce 
the dependency of visually impaired and physically challenged.
Through her NGO Atmadeepam Society, an NGO working for Education, 
Training and Rehabilitation of persons with disabilities, she is putting 
blind persons
through courses such as MS CIT, MS office, and other computer proficiency 
courses, independent living skills, kitchen orientation, family life 
education,

cooking.

Having faith in technology which she says is disabled friendly, Jidnyasa 
feels that she can help the physically challenged live independent lives. 
Her
latest initiative is a workshop for 40 visually impaired persons to 
provide training in the use of Talking ATM in collaboration with SBI. 
"Special earphones
are available using which a visually impaired person can easily operate 
an ATM machine. It will go a long way in boosting the confidence of a 
disabled

person,&qu

Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[harish]

Hi
To my understanding, the data sourced from Banks, which is labeled as fully 
accessible by them. It is not at all posible this portal to physically 
verify the data. It is here that the role of the community begins.
Firstly we need to use the service to its fullest and provide the feedback 
on any of the data is not correct. When this data is brought to the notice 
of the Bank officials, they shall of course correct the error, more 
importantly they will be more careful and have better understanding why they 
labeled it as accessible in the first place.
There would definately some learning phase and such feedback  is a step in 
the right direction however the feedback should be specific and not general 
in this case.

Harish Kotian

- Original Message - 
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held



Friends
There was a news about workshop about talking ATMs wherein about 40 blind 
persons were trained in using them at Nagpur recently.


This prompted me to take out the list of talking ATMs in Nagpur from
www.talkingatmindia.in
I found about 49 talking ATMs listed.

I along with a friend, an escort and a driver undertook the survey of 
about ten such ATMs in the posh localities of Nagpur on Saturday, May 7, 
2016 from 3 P.M. to 6 P.M.


I am sorry to say that none of the ATMs we surveyed is totally talking.
Some are virtually silent, except the beeping sound of the buttons, others 
do welcome and bid us goodbye, prompting to enter secret code and wait for 
transaction to be completed.


Now, friends all of you would agree that such partially talking ATMs are 
useless to say the least and tantalizing illusions for the blind to say 
the worst.


I am amazed as to how talkingatmindia is taking the bankers at face value 
and swelling the list of talking ATMs in India.
Being a central banker, I know fully well how the bankers indulge in 
window dressing to show compliance.
I know a template exists which has to be followed to make it fully 
talking.
But the website does not seem to have bothered to verify actually whether 
they are talking.


I urge to the site owners to take down the list and include any ATM 
actually  after having its accessibility fully verified.

Don't just indulge in numbers like bankers.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and 
laughter.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh

Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 3:13 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Well, I have more to say on this, as well as on talkingatmindia,
Please wait.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh

Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 11:48 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.

Subject: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Workshop on talking ATMs held for visually impaired
Barkha Mathur
| TNN | May 7, 2016, 06.59 PM IST

NAGPUR: Jidnyasa Chawaldhal has been striving to make life of physically 
challenged and those with impaired vision better. Since the time she lost 
her
vision at the age of 18, Jidnyasa has been evolving methods that reduce 
the dependency of visually impaired and physically challenged.
Through her NGO Atmadeepam Society, an NGO working for Education, Training 
and Rehabilitation of persons with disabilities, she is putting blind 
persons
through courses such as MS CIT, MS office, and other computer proficiency 
courses, independent living skills, kitchen orientation, family life 
education,

cooking.

Having faith in technology which she says is disabled friendly, Jidnyasa 
feels that she can help the physically challenged live independent lives. 
Her
latest initiative is a workshop for 40 visually impaired persons to 
provide training in the use of Talking ATM in collaboration with SBI. 
"Special earphones
are available using which a visually impaired person can easily operate an 
ATM machine. It will go a long way in boosting the confidence of a 
disabled

person," she says.

सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and 
laughter.



_

Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[Aravind]

hi friends same thing happened with me in bangalure there  is an hdfc 
talking atm near to my house which was parshally talking , ofter some days 
the atm is got sirveesed then they put muzic instad of voice prompt now I 
don’t know what to do.


-Original Message-
From: Mahendra Galani
Sent: Tuesday, May 1aly t0, 2016 2:40 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Rajesh, it looks, not many friends are useing them.
and if they do try, not reporting about them.

At 08:19 AM 5/10/2016 +, you wrote:

Friends
There was a news about workshop about talking ATMs wherein about 40 blind 
persons were trained in using them at Nagpur recently.


This prompted me to take out the list of talking ATMs in Nagpur from
www.talkingatmindia.in
I found about 49 talking ATMs listed.

I along with a friend, an escort and a driver undertook the survey of about 
ten such ATMs in the posh localities of Nagpur on Saturday, May 7, 2016 
from 3 P.M. to 6 P.M.


I am sorry to say that none of the ATMs we surveyed is totally talking.
Some are virtually silent, except the beeping sound of the buttons, others 
do welcome and bid us goodbye, prompting to enter secret code and wait for 
transaction to be completed.


Now, friends all of you would agree that such partially talking ATMs are 
useless to say the least and tantalizing illusions for the blind to say the 
worst.


I am amazed as to how talkingatmindia is taking the bankers at face value 
and swelling the list of talking ATMs in India.
Being a central banker, I know fully well how the bankers indulge in window 
dressing to show compliance.

I know a template exists which has to be followed to make it fully talking.
But the website does not seem to have bothered to verify actually whether 
they are talking.


I urge to the site owners to take down the list and include any ATM 
actually  after having its accessibility fully verified.

Don't just indulge in numbers like bankers.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and 
laughter.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf 
Of Asudani, Rajesh

Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 3:13 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Well, I have more to say on this, as well as on talkingatmindia,
Please wait.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf 
Of Asudani, Rajesh

Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 11:48 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.

Subject: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Workshop on talking ATMs held for visually impaired
Barkha Mathur
 | TNN | May 7, 2016, 06.59 PM IST

NAGPUR: Jidnyasa Chawaldhal has been striving to make life of physically 
challenged and those with impaired vision better. Since the time she lost 
her
vision at the age of 18, Jidnyasa has been evolving methods that reduce the 
dependency of visually impaired and physically challenged.
Through her NGO Atmadeepam Society, an NGO working for Education, Training 
and Rehabilitation of persons with disabilities, she is putting blind 
persons
through courses such as MS CIT, MS office, and other computer proficiency 
courses, independent living skills, kitchen orientation, family life 
education,

cooking.

Having faith in technology which she says is disabled friendly, Jidnyasa 
feels that she can help the physically challenged live independent lives. 
Her
latest initiative is a workshop for 40 visually impaired persons to provide 
training in the use of Talking ATM in collaboration with SBI. "Special 
earphones
are available using which a visually impaired person can easily operate an 
ATM machine. It will go a long way in boosting the confidence of a disabled

person," she says.

सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and 
laughter.





Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, SMSs or makes calls 
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Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[Mahendra Galani]

Rajesh, it looks, not many friends are useing them.
and if they do try, not reporting about them.

At 08:19 AM 5/10/2016 +, you wrote:

Friends
There was a news about workshop about talking 
ATMs wherein about 40 blind persons were trained 
in using them at Nagpur recently.


This prompted me to take out the list of talking ATMs in Nagpur from
www.talkingatmindia.in
I found about 49 talking ATMs listed.

I along with a friend, an escort and a driver 
undertook the survey of about ten such ATMs in 
the posh localities of Nagpur on Saturday, May 7, 2016 from 3 P.M. to 6 P.M.


I am sorry to say that none of the ATMs we surveyed is totally talking.
Some are virtually silent, except the beeping 
sound of the buttons, others do welcome and bid 
us goodbye, prompting to enter secret code and 
wait for transaction to be completed.


Now, friends all of you would agree that such 
partially talking ATMs are useless to say the 
least and tantalizing illusions for the blind to say the worst.


I am amazed as to how talkingatmindia is taking 
the bankers at face value and swelling the list of talking ATMs in India.
Being a central banker, I know fully well how 
the bankers indulge in window dressing to show compliance.

I know a template exists which has to be followed to make it fully talking.
But the website does not seem to have bothered 
to verify actually whether they are talking.


I urge to the site owners to take down the list 
and include any ATM actually  after having its accessibility fully verified.

Don't just indulge in numbers like bankers.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh

Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 3:13 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing 
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Well, I have more to say on this, as well as on talkingatmindia,
Please wait.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh

Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 11:48 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing 
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.

Subject: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Workshop on talking ATMs held for visually impaired
Barkha Mathur
 | TNN | May 7, 2016, 06.59 PM IST

NAGPUR: Jidnyasa Chawaldhal has been striving to 
make life of physically challenged and those 
with impaired vision better. Since the time she lost her
vision at the age of 18, Jidnyasa has been 
evolving methods that reduce the dependency of 
visually impaired and physically challenged.
Through her NGO Atmadeepam Society, an NGO 
working for Education, Training and 
Rehabilitation of persons with disabilities, she is putting blind persons
through courses such as MS CIT, MS office, and 
other computer proficiency courses, independent 
living skills, kitchen orientation, family life education,

cooking.

Having faith in technology which she says is 
disabled friendly, Jidnyasa feels that she can 
help the physically challenged live independent lives. Her
latest initiative is a workshop for 40 visually 
impaired persons to provide training in the use 
of Talking ATM in collaboration with SBI. "Special earphones
are available using which a visually impaired 
person can easily operate an ATM machine. It 
will go a long way in boosting the confidence of a disabled

person," she says.

सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

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Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Friends
There was a news about workshop about talking ATMs wherein about 40 blind 
persons were trained in using them at Nagpur recently.

This prompted me to take out the list of talking ATMs in Nagpur from 
www.talkingatmindia.in
I found about 49 talking ATMs listed.

I along with a friend, an escort and a driver undertook the survey of about ten 
such ATMs in the posh localities of Nagpur on Saturday, May 7, 2016 from 3 P.M. 
to 6 P.M.

I am sorry to say that none of the ATMs we surveyed is totally talking.
Some are virtually silent, except the beeping sound of the buttons, others do 
welcome and bid us goodbye, prompting to enter secret code and wait for 
transaction to be completed.

Now, friends all of you would agree that such partially talking ATMs are 
useless to say the least and tantalizing illusions for the blind to say the 
worst.

I am amazed as to how talkingatmindia is taking the bankers at face value and 
swelling the list of talking ATMs in India.
Being a central banker, I know fully well how the bankers indulge in window 
dressing to show compliance.
I know a template exists which has to be followed to make it fully talking.
But the website does not seem to have bothered to verify actually whether they 
are talking.

I urge to the site owners to take down the list and include any ATM actually  
after having its accessibility fully verified.
Don't just indulge in numbers like bankers.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 3:13 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Well, I have more to say on this, as well as on talkingatmindia,
Please wait.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 11:48 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Workshop on talking ATMs held for visually impaired
Barkha Mathur
 | TNN | May 7, 2016, 06.59 PM IST

NAGPUR: Jidnyasa Chawaldhal has been striving to make life of physically 
challenged and those with impaired vision better. Since the time she lost her
vision at the age of 18, Jidnyasa has been evolving methods that reduce the 
dependency of visually impaired and physically challenged.
Through her NGO Atmadeepam Society, an NGO working for Education, Training and 
Rehabilitation of persons with disabilities, she is putting blind persons
through courses such as MS CIT, MS office, and other computer proficiency 
courses, independent living skills, kitchen orientation, family life education,
cooking.

Having faith in technology which she says is disabled friendly, Jidnyasa feels 
that she can help the physically challenged live independent lives. Her
latest initiative is a workshop for 40 visually impaired persons to provide 
training in the use of Talking ATM in collaboration with SBI. "Special earphones
are available using which a visually impaired person can easily operate an ATM 
machine. It will go a long way in boosting the confidence of a disabled
person," she says.

सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.




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Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Well, I have more to say on this, as well as on talkingatmindia,
Please wait.

-Original Message-
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Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 11:48 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

Workshop on talking ATMs held for visually impaired
Barkha Mathur
 | TNN | May 7, 2016, 06.59 PM IST

NAGPUR: Jidnyasa Chawaldhal has been striving to make life of physically 
challenged and those with impaired vision better. Since the time she lost her
vision at the age of 18, Jidnyasa has been evolving methods that reduce the 
dependency of visually impaired and physically challenged.
Through her NGO Atmadeepam Society, an NGO working for Education, Training and 
Rehabilitation of persons with disabilities, she is putting blind persons
through courses such as MS CIT, MS office, and other computer proficiency 
courses, independent living skills, kitchen orientation, family life education,
cooking.

Having faith in technology which she says is disabled friendly, Jidnyasa feels 
that she can help the physically challenged live independent lives. Her
latest initiative is a workshop for 40 visually impaired persons to provide 
training in the use of Talking ATM in collaboration with SBI. "Special earphones
are available using which a visually impaired person can easily operate an ATM 
machine. It will go a long way in boosting the confidence of a disabled
person," she says.

सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.




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Re: [AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[Arvind A]

what type of Special earphones require to operate a t m?  from where to get
 from s b i?

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Asudani, Rajesh 
wrote:

> Workshop on talking ATMs held for visually impaired
> Barkha Mathur
>  | TNN | May 7, 2016, 06.59 PM IST
>
> NAGPUR: Jidnyasa Chawaldhal has been striving to make life of physically
> challenged and those with impaired vision better. Since the time she lost
> her
> vision at the age of 18, Jidnyasa has been evolving methods that reduce
> the dependency of visually impaired and physically challenged.
> Through her NGO Atmadeepam Society, an NGO working for Education, Training
> and Rehabilitation of persons with disabilities, she is putting blind
> persons
> through courses such as MS CIT, MS office, and other computer proficiency
> courses, independent living skills, kitchen orientation, family life
> education,
> cooking.
>
> Having faith in technology which she says is disabled friendly, Jidnyasa
> feels that she can help the physically challenged live independent lives.
> Her
> latest initiative is a workshop for 40 visually impaired persons to
> provide training in the use of Talking ATM in collaboration with SBI.
> "Special earphones
> are available using which a visually impaired person can easily operate an
> ATM machine. It will go a long way in boosting the confidence of a disabled
> person," she says.
>
> सादर / With thanks & Regards
> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
> नागपुर Nagpur
>
> 0712 2806846
>
> President
> VIBEWA
> Co-Moderator
> VIB-India
>
> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
> laughter.
>
>
> 
>
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[AI] Workshop on talking atms held

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Workshop on talking ATMs held for visually impaired
Barkha Mathur
 | TNN | May 7, 2016, 06.59 PM IST

NAGPUR: Jidnyasa Chawaldhal has been striving to make life of physically 
challenged and those with impaired vision better. Since the time she lost her
vision at the age of 18, Jidnyasa has been evolving methods that reduce the 
dependency of visually impaired and physically challenged.
Through her NGO Atmadeepam Society, an NGO working for Education, Training and 
Rehabilitation of persons with disabilities, she is putting blind persons
through courses such as MS CIT, MS office, and other computer proficiency 
courses, independent living skills, kitchen orientation, family life education,
cooking.

Having faith in technology which she says is disabled friendly, Jidnyasa feels 
that she can help the physically challenged live independent lives. Her
latest initiative is a workshop for 40 visually impaired persons to provide 
training in the use of Talking ATM in collaboration with SBI. "Special earphones
are available using which a visually impaired person can easily operate an ATM 
machine. It will go a long way in boosting the confidence of a disabled
person," she says.

सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

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