[AI] apple mac book or dell laptop

2022-09-04 Thread rahul agarwal
hi all,hi all,
I want to know, which laptop should I buy whether mac book or general
laptop? suppose if you suggest mac book, is that accessible for person with
vision impaired?, is it comfortable to use this? and how it performs in
comparatively to other laptops.

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Re: [AI] apple mac book or dell laptop

2022-09-04 Thread Minar Singh
a2a: None is better..but they are different. Depends what you want to do.
If you want ;
1. Overpriced laptop
2. looks pretty
3. Good screen resolution
4. Easy backup
5. Easy to use and “dumb proof “
6. No learning curve
7. You dont mind being stuck with an ecosystem and a brand that
controls everything
8. You just want tp switch on and not learn anything and not worry
about anything
9. Then get apple laptop
But if you want to:
1. Learn about computers
2. Get a much higher performance laptop for the same price
3. Learn a bit about software
4. Learn about protecting your laptop
5. Have flexibility to tinker with software
6. Learn about how things work
7. Have (some) freedom to do modifications
8. Not be limited to one software manufacturer or brand
9. Then get Dell.
Both have excellent warranty and service. The Dell you will definitely
get more bang for your buck. The Apple is basically dumb proof, and
you will learn more with Dell.
MAC book has inbuilt screen reader VoiceOver.

On 9/5/22, rahul agarwal  wrote:
> hi all,hi all,
> I want to know, which laptop should I buy whether mac book or general
> laptop? suppose if you suggest mac book, is that accessible for person with
> vision impaired?, is it comfortable to use this? and how it performs in
> comparatively to other laptops.
>
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Re: [AI] apple mac book or dell laptop

2022-09-04 Thread vishal sharma
interesting comparison

On 9/5/22, Minar Singh  wrote:
> a2a: None is better..but they are different. Depends what you want to do.
> If you want ;
> 1. Overpriced laptop
> 2. looks pretty
> 3. Good screen resolution
> 4. Easy backup
> 5. Easy to use and “dumb proof “
> 6. No learning curve
> 7. You dont mind being stuck with an ecosystem and a brand that
> controls everything
> 8. You just want tp switch on and not learn anything and not worry
> about anything
> 9. Then get apple laptop
> But if you want to:
> 1. Learn about computers
> 2. Get a much higher performance laptop for the same price
> 3. Learn a bit about software
> 4. Learn about protecting your laptop
> 5. Have flexibility to tinker with software
> 6. Learn about how things work
> 7. Have (some) freedom to do modifications
> 8. Not be limited to one software manufacturer or brand
> 9. Then get Dell.
> Both have excellent warranty and service. The Dell you will definitely
> get more bang for your buck. The Apple is basically dumb proof, and
> you will learn more with Dell.
> MAC book has inbuilt screen reader VoiceOver.
>
> On 9/5/22, rahul agarwal  wrote:
>> hi all,hi all,
>> I want to know, which laptop should I buy whether mac book or general
>> laptop? suppose if you suggest mac book, is that accessible for person
>> with
>> vision impaired?, is it comfortable to use this? and how it performs in
>> comparatively to other laptops.
>>
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Re: [AI] apple mac book or dell laptop

2022-09-04 Thread Nishant Rana
Hi,
 The points that Minar makes in his comparison  happen to be incorrect, at
least points for mac 1 (subjective and Del is also quite overpriced as
compared to its competitors) but yes macs are rather expensive, 5, 6 and 8,
all  wrong.
 for a del, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 actually nevermind, I don't even 😂
 @ the OP, Depends what you need the laptop for. There's quite a bit of
learning curve to the mac as they work differently then windows does, and
my advice would be to stay far away from the macbooks that had touch bar
function keys, should you at all choose to go for them.
 However, once you give it the necessary time into learning how it works,
it's fairly decent, especially so if you happen to own other apple devices
for things  like continuity, handoff and so on.
 you can should you wish to do so, and or have the need for it,  install
windows on it as well, in fact the best machine that I have ever used is a
macbook pro with windows installed on it. 🤣. have one that's about 5 years
old and it's still going strong, although it does heat up a little bit, now.
 If you'd rather stick to what you know though, and choose to go with a
windows laptop,
 I have always suggested people to stay away from del, as their machines as
I stated earlier tend to be far overpriced as compared to others in the
market, and in essence you end up paying for all the advertising costs.
 If I had to choose to get a laptop with windows on it though, I'd
personally go for Asus, HP oor lenovo, with Asus being my top choice.
 Do the proper research into the machine you choose to get though,
especially in regards to their thirmals and performance throttling (one
thing you won't need to worry about with macs), avoid processors with the U
at the end.
 I'll dig up my old posts if I am able to find them on this topic, although
rather old they have good general advice that should apply even today.
Hope that helps some,





 You can also run windows

On Mon, 5 Sept 2022 at 10:23, Minar Singh  wrote:

> a2a: None is better..but they are different. Depends what you want to do.
> If you want ;
> 1. Overpriced laptop
> 2. looks pretty
> 3. Good screen resolution
> 4. Easy backup
> 5. Easy to use and “dumb proof “
> 6. No learning curve
> 7. You dont mind being stuck with an ecosystem and a brand that
> controls everything
> 8. You just want tp switch on and not learn anything and not worry
> about anything
> 9. Then get apple laptop
> But if you want to:
> 1. Learn about computers
> 2. Get a much higher performance laptop for the same price
> 3. Learn a bit about software
> 4. Learn about protecting your laptop
> 5. Have flexibility to tinker with software
> 6. Learn about how things work
> 7. Have (some) freedom to do modifications
> 8. Not be limited to one software manufacturer or brand
> 9. Then get Dell.
> Both have excellent warranty and service. The Dell you will definitely
> get more bang for your buck. The Apple is basically dumb proof, and
> you will learn more with Dell.
> MAC book has inbuilt screen reader VoiceOver.
>
> On 9/5/22, rahul agarwal  wrote:
> > hi all,hi all,
> > I want to know, which laptop should I buy whether mac book or general
> > laptop? suppose if you suggest mac book, is that accessible for person
> with
> > vision impaired?, is it comfortable to use this? and how it performs in
> > comparatively to other laptops.
> >
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Re: [AI] apple mac book or dell laptop

2022-09-04 Thread rahul agarwal
hi nishant,
if you don't mind may i have your number please?

On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 12:13 PM Nishant Rana  wrote:

> Hi,
>  The points that Minar makes in his comparison  happen to be incorrect, at
> least points for mac 1 (subjective and Del is also quite overpriced as
> compared to its competitors) but yes macs are rather expensive, 5, 6 and 8,
> all  wrong.
>  for a del, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 actually nevermind, I don't even 😂
>  @ the OP, Depends what you need the laptop for. There's quite a bit of
> learning curve to the mac as they work differently then windows does, and
> my advice would be to stay far away from the macbooks that had touch bar
> function keys, should you at all choose to go for them.
>  However, once you give it the necessary time into learning how it works,
> it's fairly decent, especially so if you happen to own other apple devices
> for things  like continuity, handoff and so on.
>  you can should you wish to do so, and or have the need for it,  install
> windows on it as well, in fact the best machine that I have ever used is a
> macbook pro with windows installed on it. 🤣. have one that's about 5 years
> old and it's still going strong, although it does heat up a little bit, now.
>  If you'd rather stick to what you know though, and choose to go with a
> windows laptop,
>  I have always suggested people to stay away from del, as their machines
> as I stated earlier tend to be far overpriced as compared to others in the
> market, and in essence you end up paying for all the advertising costs.
>  If I had to choose to get a laptop with windows on it though, I'd
> personally go for Asus, HP oor lenovo, with Asus being my top choice.
>  Do the proper research into the machine you choose to get though,
> especially in regards to their thirmals and performance throttling (one
> thing you won't need to worry about with macs), avoid processors with the U
> at the end.
>  I'll dig up my old posts if I am able to find them on this topic,
> although rather old they have good general advice that should apply even
> today.
> Hope that helps some,
>
>
>
>
>
>  You can also run windows
>
> On Mon, 5 Sept 2022 at 10:23, Minar Singh  wrote:
>
>> a2a: None is better..but they are different. Depends what you want to do.
>> If you want ;
>> 1. Overpriced laptop
>> 2. looks pretty
>> 3. Good screen resolution
>> 4. Easy backup
>> 5. Easy to use and “dumb proof “
>> 6. No learning curve
>> 7. You dont mind being stuck with an ecosystem and a brand that
>> controls everything
>> 8. You just want tp switch on and not learn anything and not worry
>> about anything
>> 9. Then get apple laptop
>> But if you want to:
>> 1. Learn about computers
>> 2. Get a much higher performance laptop for the same price
>> 3. Learn a bit about software
>> 4. Learn about protecting your laptop
>> 5. Have flexibility to tinker with software
>> 6. Learn about how things work
>> 7. Have (some) freedom to do modifications
>> 8. Not be limited to one software manufacturer or brand
>> 9. Then get Dell.
>> Both have excellent warranty and service. The Dell you will definitely
>> get more bang for your buck. The Apple is basically dumb proof, and
>> you will learn more with Dell.
>> MAC book has inbuilt screen reader VoiceOver.
>>
>> On 9/5/22, rahul agarwal  wrote:
>> > hi all,hi all,
>> > I want to know, which laptop should I buy whether mac book or general
>> > laptop? suppose if you suggest mac book, is that accessible for person
>> with
>> > vision impaired?, is it comfortable to use this? and how it performs in
>> > comparatively to other laptops.
>> >
>> > --
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>> of the
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Re: [AI] apple mac book or dell laptop

2022-09-05 Thread 'Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia
Nishant,
I could not agree more.
Asif

On 9/5/22, Nishant Rana  wrote:
> Hi,
>  The points that Minar makes in his comparison  happen to be incorrect, at
> least points for mac 1 (subjective and Del is also quite overpriced as
> compared to its competitors) but yes macs are rather expensive, 5, 6 and 8,
> all  wrong.
>  for a del, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 actually nevermind, I don't even 😂
>  @ the OP, Depends what you need the laptop for. There's quite a bit of
> learning curve to the mac as they work differently then windows does, and
> my advice would be to stay far away from the macbooks that had touch bar
> function keys, should you at all choose to go for them.
>  However, once you give it the necessary time into learning how it works,
> it's fairly decent, especially so if you happen to own other apple devices
> for things  like continuity, handoff and so on.
>  you can should you wish to do so, and or have the need for it,  install
> windows on it as well, in fact the best machine that I have ever used is a
> macbook pro with windows installed on it. 🤣. have one that's about 5 years
> old and it's still going strong, although it does heat up a little bit,
> now.
>  If you'd rather stick to what you know though, and choose to go with a
> windows laptop,
>  I have always suggested people to stay away from del, as their machines as
> I stated earlier tend to be far overpriced as compared to others in the
> market, and in essence you end up paying for all the advertising costs.
>  If I had to choose to get a laptop with windows on it though, I'd
> personally go for Asus, HP oor lenovo, with Asus being my top choice.
>  Do the proper research into the machine you choose to get though,
> especially in regards to their thirmals and performance throttling (one
> thing you won't need to worry about with macs), avoid processors with the U
> at the end.
>  I'll dig up my old posts if I am able to find them on this topic, although
> rather old they have good general advice that should apply even today.
> Hope that helps some,
>
>
>
>
>
>  You can also run windows
>
> On Mon, 5 Sept 2022 at 10:23, Minar Singh  wrote:
>
>> a2a: None is better..but they are different. Depends what you want to do.
>> If you want ;
>> 1. Overpriced laptop
>> 2. looks pretty
>> 3. Good screen resolution
>> 4. Easy backup
>> 5. Easy to use and “dumb proof “
>> 6. No learning curve
>> 7. You dont mind being stuck with an ecosystem and a brand that
>> controls everything
>> 8. You just want tp switch on and not learn anything and not worry
>> about anything
>> 9. Then get apple laptop
>> But if you want to:
>> 1. Learn about computers
>> 2. Get a much higher performance laptop for the same price
>> 3. Learn a bit about software
>> 4. Learn about protecting your laptop
>> 5. Have flexibility to tinker with software
>> 6. Learn about how things work
>> 7. Have (some) freedom to do modifications
>> 8. Not be limited to one software manufacturer or brand
>> 9. Then get Dell.
>> Both have excellent warranty and service. The Dell you will definitely
>> get more bang for your buck. The Apple is basically dumb proof, and
>> you will learn more with Dell.
>> MAC book has inbuilt screen reader VoiceOver.
>>
>> On 9/5/22, rahul agarwal  wrote:
>> > hi all,hi all,
>> > I want to know, which laptop should I buy whether mac book or general
>> > laptop? suppose if you suggest mac book, is that accessible for person
>> with
>> > vision impaired?, is it comfortable to use this? and how it performs in
>> > comparatively to other laptops.
>> >
>> > --
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>> > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking
>> > of
>> the
>> > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
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Re: [AI] apple mac book or dell laptop

2022-09-05 Thread Minar Singh
Well everyone have different opinion. I won't recommend anyone Asus
laptop due to internal speaker and battery issue. I haven't use Lenovo
so won't comment on that. HP is fine.

On 9/5/22, 'Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia
 wrote:
> Nishant,
> I could not agree more.
> Asif
>
> On 9/5/22, Nishant Rana  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>  The points that Minar makes in his comparison  happen to be incorrect,
>> at
>> least points for mac 1 (subjective and Del is also quite overpriced as
>> compared to its competitors) but yes macs are rather expensive, 5, 6 and
>> 8,
>> all  wrong.
>>  for a del, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 actually nevermind, I don't even 😂
>>  @ the OP, Depends what you need the laptop for. There's quite a bit of
>> learning curve to the mac as they work differently then windows does, and
>> my advice would be to stay far away from the macbooks that had touch bar
>> function keys, should you at all choose to go for them.
>>  However, once you give it the necessary time into learning how it works,
>> it's fairly decent, especially so if you happen to own other apple
>> devices
>> for things  like continuity, handoff and so on.
>>  you can should you wish to do so, and or have the need for it,  install
>> windows on it as well, in fact the best machine that I have ever used is
>> a
>> macbook pro with windows installed on it. 🤣. have one that's about 5
>> years
>> old and it's still going strong, although it does heat up a little bit,
>> now.
>>  If you'd rather stick to what you know though, and choose to go with a
>> windows laptop,
>>  I have always suggested people to stay away from del, as their machines
>> as
>> I stated earlier tend to be far overpriced as compared to others in the
>> market, and in essence you end up paying for all the advertising costs.
>>  If I had to choose to get a laptop with windows on it though, I'd
>> personally go for Asus, HP oor lenovo, with Asus being my top choice.
>>  Do the proper research into the machine you choose to get though,
>> especially in regards to their thirmals and performance throttling (one
>> thing you won't need to worry about with macs), avoid processors with the
>> U
>> at the end.
>>  I'll dig up my old posts if I am able to find them on this topic,
>> although
>> rather old they have good general advice that should apply even today.
>> Hope that helps some,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  You can also run windows
>>
>> On Mon, 5 Sept 2022 at 10:23, Minar Singh  wrote:
>>
>>> a2a: None is better..but they are different. Depends what you want to
>>> do.
>>> If you want ;
>>> 1. Overpriced laptop
>>> 2. looks pretty
>>> 3. Good screen resolution
>>> 4. Easy backup
>>> 5. Easy to use and “dumb proof “
>>> 6. No learning curve
>>> 7. You dont mind being stuck with an ecosystem and a brand that
>>> controls everything
>>> 8. You just want tp switch on and not learn anything and not worry
>>> about anything
>>> 9. Then get apple laptop
>>> But if you want to:
>>> 1. Learn about computers
>>> 2. Get a much higher performance laptop for the same price
>>> 3. Learn a bit about software
>>> 4. Learn about protecting your laptop
>>> 5. Have flexibility to tinker with software
>>> 6. Learn about how things work
>>> 7. Have (some) freedom to do modifications
>>> 8. Not be limited to one software manufacturer or brand
>>> 9. Then get Dell.
>>> Both have excellent warranty and service. The Dell you will definitely
>>> get more bang for your buck. The Apple is basically dumb proof, and
>>> you will learn more with Dell.
>>> MAC book has inbuilt screen reader VoiceOver.
>>>
>>> On 9/5/22, rahul agarwal  wrote:
>>> > hi all,hi all,
>>> > I want to know, which laptop should I buy whether mac book or general
>>> > laptop? suppose if you suggest mac book, is that accessible for person
>>> with
>>> > vision impaired?, is it comfortable to use this? and how it performs
>>> > in
>>> > comparatively to other laptops.
>>> >
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>>> > of
>>> the
>>> > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
>>> > veracity;
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Re: [AI] apple mac book or dell laptop

2022-09-05 Thread Ajay Minocha
Hi,

I have found the middle/ higher end of Asus laptops far better than
similarly priced Dell/ HP one's.
MAC has a huge learning curve which is not worth wasting your time + a
lot of people (specially visually impaired) buy MAC but end up
installing windows :) :) So my advise would be to go for a mid range
windows machine.

Cheers,
Ajay

On 05/09/2022, Minar Singh  wrote:
> Well everyone have different opinion. I won't recommend anyone Asus
> laptop due to internal speaker and battery issue. I haven't use Lenovo
> so won't comment on that. HP is fine.
>
> On 9/5/22, 'Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia
>  wrote:
>> Nishant,
>> I could not agree more.
>> Asif
>>
>> On 9/5/22, Nishant Rana  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>  The points that Minar makes in his comparison  happen to be incorrect,
>>> at
>>> least points for mac 1 (subjective and Del is also quite overpriced as
>>> compared to its competitors) but yes macs are rather expensive, 5, 6 and
>>> 8,
>>> all  wrong.
>>>  for a del, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 actually nevermind, I don't even 😂
>>>  @ the OP, Depends what you need the laptop for. There's quite a bit of
>>> learning curve to the mac as they work differently then windows does,
>>> and
>>> my advice would be to stay far away from the macbooks that had touch bar
>>> function keys, should you at all choose to go for them.
>>>  However, once you give it the necessary time into learning how it
>>> works,
>>> it's fairly decent, especially so if you happen to own other apple
>>> devices
>>> for things  like continuity, handoff and so on.
>>>  you can should you wish to do so, and or have the need for it,  install
>>> windows on it as well, in fact the best machine that I have ever used is
>>> a
>>> macbook pro with windows installed on it. 🤣. have one that's about 5
>>> years
>>> old and it's still going strong, although it does heat up a little bit,
>>> now.
>>>  If you'd rather stick to what you know though, and choose to go with a
>>> windows laptop,
>>>  I have always suggested people to stay away from del, as their machines
>>> as
>>> I stated earlier tend to be far overpriced as compared to others in the
>>> market, and in essence you end up paying for all the advertising costs.
>>>  If I had to choose to get a laptop with windows on it though, I'd
>>> personally go for Asus, HP oor lenovo, with Asus being my top choice.
>>>  Do the proper research into the machine you choose to get though,
>>> especially in regards to their thirmals and performance throttling (one
>>> thing you won't need to worry about with macs), avoid processors with
>>> the
>>> U
>>> at the end.
>>>  I'll dig up my old posts if I am able to find them on this topic,
>>> although
>>> rather old they have good general advice that should apply even today.
>>> Hope that helps some,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  You can also run windows
>>>
>>> On Mon, 5 Sept 2022 at 10:23, Minar Singh  wrote:
>>>
 a2a: None is better..but they are different. Depends what you want to
 do.
 If you want ;
 1. Overpriced laptop
 2. looks pretty
 3. Good screen resolution
 4. Easy backup
 5. Easy to use and “dumb proof “
 6. No learning curve
 7. You dont mind being stuck with an ecosystem and a brand that
 controls everything
 8. You just want tp switch on and not learn anything and not worry
 about anything
 9. Then get apple laptop
 But if you want to:
 1. Learn about computers
 2. Get a much higher performance laptop for the same price
 3. Learn a bit about software
 4. Learn about protecting your laptop
 5. Have flexibility to tinker with software
 6. Learn about how things work
 7. Have (some) freedom to do modifications
 8. Not be limited to one software manufacturer or brand
 9. Then get Dell.
 Both have excellent warranty and service. The Dell you will definitely
 get more bang for your buck. The Apple is basically dumb proof, and
 you will learn more with Dell.
 MAC book has inbuilt screen reader VoiceOver.

 On 9/5/22, rahul agarwal  wrote:
 > hi all,hi all,
 > I want to know, which laptop should I buy whether mac book or general
 > laptop? suppose if you suggest mac book, is that accessible for
 > person
 with
 > vision impaired?, is it comfortable to use this? and how it performs
 > in
 > comparatively to other laptops.
 >
 > --
 > Disclaimer:
 > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking
 > of
 the
 > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
 > veracity;
 >
 > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
 mails
 > sent through this mailing list..
 >
 >
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Re: [AI] apple mac book or dell laptop

2022-09-05 Thread Nishant Rana
Hi Rahul,
 sending it to you now on the email address you are using to write on here
with.



On Mon, 5 Sept 2022 at 12:28, rahul agarwal  wrote:

> hi nishant,
> if you don't mind may i have your number please?
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 12:13 PM Nishant Rana 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>  The points that Minar makes in his comparison  happen to be incorrect,
>> at least points for mac 1 (subjective and Del is also quite overpriced as
>> compared to its competitors) but yes macs are rather expensive, 5, 6 and 8,
>> all  wrong.
>>  for a del, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 actually nevermind, I don't even 😂
>>  @ the OP, Depends what you need the laptop for. There's quite a bit of
>> learning curve to the mac as they work differently then windows does, and
>> my advice would be to stay far away from the macbooks that had touch bar
>> function keys, should you at all choose to go for them.
>>  However, once you give it the necessary time into learning how it works,
>> it's fairly decent, especially so if you happen to own other apple devices
>> for things  like continuity, handoff and so on.
>>  you can should you wish to do so, and or have the need for it,  install
>> windows on it as well, in fact the best machine that I have ever used is a
>> macbook pro with windows installed on it. 🤣. have one that's about 5 years
>> old and it's still going strong, although it does heat up a little bit, now.
>>  If you'd rather stick to what you know though, and choose to go with a
>> windows laptop,
>>  I have always suggested people to stay away from del, as their machines
>> as I stated earlier tend to be far overpriced as compared to others in the
>> market, and in essence you end up paying for all the advertising costs.
>>  If I had to choose to get a laptop with windows on it though, I'd
>> personally go for Asus, HP oor lenovo, with Asus being my top choice.
>>  Do the proper research into the machine you choose to get though,
>> especially in regards to their thirmals and performance throttling (one
>> thing you won't need to worry about with macs), avoid processors with the U
>> at the end.
>>  I'll dig up my old posts if I am able to find them on this topic,
>> although rather old they have good general advice that should apply even
>> today.
>> Hope that helps some,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  You can also run windows
>>
>> On Mon, 5 Sept 2022 at 10:23, Minar Singh  wrote:
>>
>>> a2a: None is better..but they are different. Depends what you want to do.
>>> If you want ;
>>> 1. Overpriced laptop
>>> 2. looks pretty
>>> 3. Good screen resolution
>>> 4. Easy backup
>>> 5. Easy to use and “dumb proof “
>>> 6. No learning curve
>>> 7. You dont mind being stuck with an ecosystem and a brand that
>>> controls everything
>>> 8. You just want tp switch on and not learn anything and not worry
>>> about anything
>>> 9. Then get apple laptop
>>> But if you want to:
>>> 1. Learn about computers
>>> 2. Get a much higher performance laptop for the same price
>>> 3. Learn a bit about software
>>> 4. Learn about protecting your laptop
>>> 5. Have flexibility to tinker with software
>>> 6. Learn about how things work
>>> 7. Have (some) freedom to do modifications
>>> 8. Not be limited to one software manufacturer or brand
>>> 9. Then get Dell.
>>> Both have excellent warranty and service. The Dell you will definitely
>>> get more bang for your buck. The Apple is basically dumb proof, and
>>> you will learn more with Dell.
>>> MAC book has inbuilt screen reader VoiceOver.
>>>
>>> On 9/5/22, rahul agarwal  wrote:
>>> > hi all,hi all,
>>> > I want to know, which laptop should I buy whether mac book or general
>>> > laptop? suppose if you suggest mac book, is that accessible for person
>>> with
>>> > vision impaired?, is it comfortable to use this? and how it performs in
>>> > comparatively to other laptops.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Disclaimer:
>>> > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking
>>> of the
>>> > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
>>> veracity;
>>> >
>>> > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
>>> mails
>>> > sent through this mailing list..
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
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>>> .
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> second  Because we all are people first.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Disclaimer:
>>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of
>>> the person sendi

Re: [AI] apple mac book or dell laptop

2022-09-05 Thread Nishant Rana
Hi,
 Good suggestion Ajay, and I second your opinion about Asus
 Again though, I'd recommend researching the thermals and reviews of the
machine before you click that buy button, and or go and bring it home.
 Honestly, I could have stuck it out with the mac, like I said it takes a
bit getting used to, but once you know how to work it, it's just as good.
 The only problem though for me was that I wanted to play games, and MacOS
doesn't really have that many audiogames which are sparse enough even on
windows to begin with, so I had to put on windows on that thing.
 But yes, if you are used to windows, and are starting with something like
a uni or college etc, I'd suggest sticking with what you know, rather than
trying to handle both learning the MAC side of things and learning what you
are in the college/ uni for at the same time 😂
 hth,

On Mon, 5 Sept 2022 at 14:19, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have found the middle/ higher end of Asus laptops far better than
> similarly priced Dell/ HP one's.
> MAC has a huge learning curve which is not worth wasting your time + a
> lot of people (specially visually impaired) buy MAC but end up
> installing windows :) :) So my advise would be to go for a mid range
> windows machine.
>
> Cheers,
> Ajay
>
> On 05/09/2022, Minar Singh  wrote:
> > Well everyone have different opinion. I won't recommend anyone Asus
> > laptop due to internal speaker and battery issue. I haven't use Lenovo
> > so won't comment on that. HP is fine.
> >
> > On 9/5/22, 'Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia
> >  wrote:
> >> Nishant,
> >> I could not agree more.
> >> Asif
> >>
> >> On 9/5/22, Nishant Rana  wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>  The points that Minar makes in his comparison  happen to be incorrect,
> >>> at
> >>> least points for mac 1 (subjective and Del is also quite overpriced as
> >>> compared to its competitors) but yes macs are rather expensive, 5, 6
> and
> >>> 8,
> >>> all  wrong.
> >>>  for a del, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 actually nevermind, I don't even 😂
> >>>  @ the OP, Depends what you need the laptop for. There's quite a bit of
> >>> learning curve to the mac as they work differently then windows does,
> >>> and
> >>> my advice would be to stay far away from the macbooks that had touch
> bar
> >>> function keys, should you at all choose to go for them.
> >>>  However, once you give it the necessary time into learning how it
> >>> works,
> >>> it's fairly decent, especially so if you happen to own other apple
> >>> devices
> >>> for things  like continuity, handoff and so on.
> >>>  you can should you wish to do so, and or have the need for it,
> install
> >>> windows on it as well, in fact the best machine that I have ever used
> is
> >>> a
> >>> macbook pro with windows installed on it. 🤣. have one that's about 5
> >>> years
> >>> old and it's still going strong, although it does heat up a little bit,
> >>> now.
> >>>  If you'd rather stick to what you know though, and choose to go with a
> >>> windows laptop,
> >>>  I have always suggested people to stay away from del, as their
> machines
> >>> as
> >>> I stated earlier tend to be far overpriced as compared to others in the
> >>> market, and in essence you end up paying for all the advertising costs.
> >>>  If I had to choose to get a laptop with windows on it though, I'd
> >>> personally go for Asus, HP oor lenovo, with Asus being my top choice.
> >>>  Do the proper research into the machine you choose to get though,
> >>> especially in regards to their thirmals and performance throttling (one
> >>> thing you won't need to worry about with macs), avoid processors with
> >>> the
> >>> U
> >>> at the end.
> >>>  I'll dig up my old posts if I am able to find them on this topic,
> >>> although
> >>> rather old they have good general advice that should apply even today.
> >>> Hope that helps some,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  You can also run windows
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 5 Sept 2022 at 10:23, Minar Singh 
> wrote:
> >>>
>  a2a: None is better..but they are different. Depends what you want to
>  do.
>  If you want ;
>  1. Overpriced laptop
>  2. looks pretty
>  3. Good screen resolution
>  4. Easy backup
>  5. Easy to use and “dumb proof “
>  6. No learning curve
>  7. You dont mind being stuck with an ecosystem and a brand that
>  controls everything
>  8. You just want tp switch on and not learn anything and not worry
>  about anything
>  9. Then get apple laptop
>  But if you want to:
>  1. Learn about computers
>  2. Get a much higher performance laptop for the same price
>  3. Learn a bit about software
>  4. Learn about protecting your laptop
>  5. Have flexibility to tinker with software
>  6. Learn about how things work
>  7. Have (some) freedom to do modifications
>  8. Not be limited to one software manufacturer or brand
>  9. Then get Dell.
>  Both have excellent warranty and service. The Dell you will definitely
> 

Re: [AI] apple mac book or dell laptop

2022-09-05 Thread BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA
Hi Nishant,

I would just like to share my thoughts on your opinion about Dell laptops being 
far overpriced than others in the market. I think this can also be subjective 
if we align it with your point on MacBooks being rather expensive, but not 
overpriced. If we end up paying all the advertising costs when purchasing Dell 
laptops, it should also be applied to MacBooks as well. Because every product 
manufacturer recovers their advertising costs, expense for research and 
development activities, employee expenses, costs related to  investments and 
acquisitions etc from the revenue generated from their products and services.
While this can be a personal opinion, I have used Dell laptops for almost 12 
years now, and it has been a very smooth, responsive and intuitive experience. 
From a budget segment laptop to a high end performance laptop, I found it to be 
flawless, especially considering its performance, design, durability,  
throttling, simultaneous multi-network connectivity, Device driver 
compatibility, various optimisation tools and customer support.
If we simply look at the specifications or configurations on paper, we may come 
across various manufacturers offering the same machine at a cheaper price, but 
it would be wise to consult with the users of such machines to consider the 
other aspects that might potentially impact the purchasing decision if 
overlooked. Cheers
Bikram 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 05-Sep-2022, at 12:13 PM, Nishant Rana  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  The points that Minar makes in his comparison  happen to be incorrect, at 
> least points for mac 1 (subjective and Del is also quite overpriced as 
> compared to its competitors) but yes macs are rather expensive, 5, 6 and 8, 
> all  wrong.
>  for a del, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 actually nevermind, I don't even 😂
>  @ the OP, Depends what you need the laptop for. There's quite a bit of 
> learning curve to the mac as they work differently then windows does, and my 
> advice would be to stay far away from the macbooks that had touch bar 
> function keys, should you at all choose to go for them.
>  However, once you give it the necessary time into learning how it works, 
> it's fairly decent, especially so if you happen to own other apple devices 
> for things  like continuity, handoff and so on.
>  you can should you wish to do so, and or have the need for it,  install 
> windows on it as well, in fact the best machine that I have ever used is a 
> macbook pro with windows installed on it. 🤣. have one that's about 5 years 
> old and it's still going strong, although it does heat up a little bit, now.
>  If you'd rather stick to what you know though, and choose to go with a 
> windows laptop,
>  I have always suggested people to stay away from del, as their machines as I 
> stated earlier tend to be far overpriced as compared to others in the market, 
> and in essence you end up paying for all the advertising costs.
>  If I had to choose to get a laptop with windows on it though, I'd personally 
> go for Asus, HP oor lenovo, with Asus being my top choice.
>  Do the proper research into the machine you choose to get though, especially 
> in regards to their thirmals and performance throttling (one thing you won't 
> need to worry about with macs), avoid processors with the U at the end.
>  I'll dig up my old posts if I am able to find them on this topic, although 
> rather old they have good general advice that should apply even today.
> Hope that helps some,
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
>  You can also run windows 
> 
>> On Mon, 5 Sept 2022 at 10:23, Minar Singh  wrote:
>> a2a: None is better..but they are different. Depends what you want to do.
>> If you want ;
>> 1. Overpriced laptop
>> 2. looks pretty
>> 3. Good screen resolution
>> 4. Easy backup
>> 5. Easy to use and “dumb proof “
>> 6. No learning curve
>> 7. You dont mind being stuck with an ecosystem and a brand that
>> controls everything
>> 8. You just want tp switch on and not learn anything and not worry
>> about anything
>> 9. Then get apple laptop
>> But if you want to:
>> 1. Learn about computers
>> 2. Get a much higher performance laptop for the same price
>> 3. Learn a bit about software
>> 4. Learn about protecting your laptop
>> 5. Have flexibility to tinker with software
>> 6. Learn about how things work
>> 7. Have (some) freedom to do modifications
>> 8. Not be limited to one software manufacturer or brand
>> 9. Then get Dell.
>> Both have excellent warranty and service. The Dell you will definitely
>> get more bang for your buck. The Apple is basically dumb proof, and
>> you will learn more with Dell.
>> MAC book has inbuilt screen reader VoiceOver.
>> 
>> On 9/5/22, rahul agarwal  wrote:
>> > hi all,hi all,
>> > I want to know, which laptop should I buy whether mac book or general
>> > laptop? suppose if you suggest mac book, is that accessible for person with
>> > vision impaired?, is it comfortable to use this? and how it performs in
>> > comparatively to other laptops.
>> >
>> >

Re: [AI] apple mac book or dell laptop

2022-09-10 Thread Nishant Rana
Hi Bikram ,
 good points, but to reply to a few of them,
 We do end up paying advertising, R and D and all such costs for all the
products that we buy, but rather a lot more for some as compared to the
rest, Del being a good contender for such, Whilst I do understand that
you've had good experiences and I am sure many others have had the same,
Generally I do not find that to be the case. and yes, Not just going by
paper specs, either, that's the last thing I ever do, or suggest anyone
does, either, hence my harping on and on about reading reviews from
multiple places, going through the specs and so on before you choose to buy
a machine.

 My recommendations or lack thereof come through either my own experiences
or that of people that I have known/ read, the results of which I have
already stated in this thread, if yours have differed, that's usually a
good thing, too. In the end all I do and ask everyone does is use what
works for you, rather than be fanboys for any company at all, it's us
paying them to use their products after all, not the other way around.
Cheers,


On Mon, 5 Sept 2022 at 21:22, BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA <
bikram.greets...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Nishant,
>
> I would just like to share my thoughts on your opinion about Dell laptops
> being far overpriced than others in the market. I think this can also be
> subjective if we align it with your point on MacBooks being rather
> expensive, but not overpriced. If we end up paying all the advertising
> costs when purchasing Dell laptops, it should also be applied to MacBooks
> as well. Because every product manufacturer recovers their advertising
> costs, expense for research and development activities, employee expenses,
> costs related to  investments and acquisitions etc from the revenue
> generated from their products and services.
> While this can be a personal opinion, I have used Dell laptops for almost
> 12 years now, and it has been a very smooth, responsive and
> intuitive experience. From a budget segment laptop to a high end
> performance laptop, I found it to be flawless, especially considering
> its performance, design, durability,  throttling, simultaneous
> multi-network connectivity, Device driver compatibility, various
> optimisation tools and customer support.
> If we simply look at the specifications or configurations on paper, we may
> come across various manufacturers offering the same machine at a cheaper
> price, but it would be wise to consult with the users of such machines to
> consider the other aspects that might potentially impact the purchasing
> decision if overlooked. Cheers
> Bikram
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 05-Sep-2022, at 12:13 PM, Nishant Rana  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>  The points that Minar makes in his comparison  happen to be incorrect, at
> least points for mac 1 (subjective and Del is also quite overpriced as
> compared to its competitors) but yes macs are rather expensive, 5, 6 and 8,
> all  wrong.
>  for a del, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 actually nevermind, I don't even 😂
>  @ the OP, Depends what you need the laptop for. There's quite a bit of
> learning curve to the mac as they work differently then windows does, and
> my advice would be to stay far away from the macbooks that had touch bar
> function keys, should you at all choose to go for them.
>  However, once you give it the necessary time into learning how it works,
> it's fairly decent, especially so if you happen to own other apple devices
> for things  like continuity, handoff and so on.
>  you can should you wish to do so, and or have the need for it,  install
> windows on it as well, in fact the best machine that I have ever used is a
> macbook pro with windows installed on it. 🤣. have one that's about 5 years
> old and it's still going strong, although it does heat up a little bit, now.
>  If you'd rather stick to what you know though, and choose to go with a
> windows laptop,
>  I have always suggested people to stay away from del, as their machines
> as I stated earlier tend to be far overpriced as compared to others in the
> market, and in essence you end up paying for all the advertising costs.
>  If I had to choose to get a laptop with windows on it though, I'd
> personally go for Asus, HP oor lenovo, with Asus being my top choice.
>  Do the proper research into the machine you choose to get though,
> especially in regards to their thirmals and performance throttling (one
> thing you won't need to worry about with macs), avoid processors with the U
> at the end.
>  I'll dig up my old posts if I am able to find them on this topic,
> although rather old they have good general advice that should apply even
> today.
> Hope that helps some,
>
>
>
>
>
>  You can also run windows
>
> On Mon, 5 Sept 2022 at 10:23, Minar Singh  wrote:
>
>> a2a: None is better..but they are different. Depends what you want to do.
>> If you want ;
>> 1. Overpriced laptop
>> 2. looks pretty
>> 3. Good screen resolution
>> 4. Easy backup
>> 5. Easy to use and “dumb proof “
>> 6.

Re: [AI] apple mac book or dell laptop

2022-09-10 Thread rahul agarwal
Hi all,
thank you for all your valuable suggestions. It really helped me to
understand the subject.


On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 9:22 PM BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA <
bikram.greets...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Nishant,
>
> I would just like to share my thoughts on your opinion about Dell laptops
> being far overpriced than others in the market. I think this can also be
> subjective if we align it with your point on MacBooks being rather
> expensive, but not overpriced. If we end up paying all the advertising
> costs when purchasing Dell laptops, it should also be applied to MacBooks
> as well. Because every product manufacturer recovers their advertising
> costs, expense for research and development activities, employee expenses,
> costs related to  investments and acquisitions etc from the revenue
> generated from their products and services.
> While this can be a personal opinion, I have used Dell laptops for almost
> 12 years now, and it has been a very smooth, responsive and
> intuitive experience. From a budget segment laptop to a high end
> performance laptop, I found it to be flawless, especially considering
> its performance, design, durability,  throttling, simultaneous
> multi-network connectivity, Device driver compatibility, various
> optimisation tools and customer support.
> If we simply look at the specifications or configurations on paper, we may
> come across various manufacturers offering the same machine at a cheaper
> price, but it would be wise to consult with the users of such machines to
> consider the other aspects that might potentially impact the purchasing
> decision if overlooked. Cheers
> Bikram
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 05-Sep-2022, at 12:13 PM, Nishant Rana  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>  The points that Minar makes in his comparison  happen to be incorrect, at
> least points for mac 1 (subjective and Del is also quite overpriced as
> compared to its competitors) but yes macs are rather expensive, 5, 6 and 8,
> all  wrong.
>  for a del, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 actually nevermind, I don't even 😂
>  @ the OP, Depends what you need the laptop for. There's quite a bit of
> learning curve to the mac as they work differently then windows does, and
> my advice would be to stay far away from the macbooks that had touch bar
> function keys, should you at all choose to go for them.
>  However, once you give it the necessary time into learning how it works,
> it's fairly decent, especially so if you happen to own other apple devices
> for things  like continuity, handoff and so on.
>  you can should you wish to do so, and or have the need for it,  install
> windows on it as well, in fact the best machine that I have ever used is a
> macbook pro with windows installed on it. 🤣. have one that's about 5 years
> old and it's still going strong, although it does heat up a little bit, now.
>  If you'd rather stick to what you know though, and choose to go with a
> windows laptop,
>  I have always suggested people to stay away from del, as their machines
> as I stated earlier tend to be far overpriced as compared to others in the
> market, and in essence you end up paying for all the advertising costs.
>  If I had to choose to get a laptop with windows on it though, I'd
> personally go for Asus, HP oor lenovo, with Asus being my top choice.
>  Do the proper research into the machine you choose to get though,
> especially in regards to their thirmals and performance throttling (one
> thing you won't need to worry about with macs), avoid processors with the U
> at the end.
>  I'll dig up my old posts if I am able to find them on this topic,
> although rather old they have good general advice that should apply even
> today.
> Hope that helps some,
>
>
>
>
>
>  You can also run windows
>
> On Mon, 5 Sept 2022 at 10:23, Minar Singh  wrote:
>
>> a2a: None is better..but they are different. Depends what you want to do.
>> If you want ;
>> 1. Overpriced laptop
>> 2. looks pretty
>> 3. Good screen resolution
>> 4. Easy backup
>> 5. Easy to use and “dumb proof “
>> 6. No learning curve
>> 7. You dont mind being stuck with an ecosystem and a brand that
>> controls everything
>> 8. You just want tp switch on and not learn anything and not worry
>> about anything
>> 9. Then get apple laptop
>> But if you want to:
>> 1. Learn about computers
>> 2. Get a much higher performance laptop for the same price
>> 3. Learn a bit about software
>> 4. Learn about protecting your laptop
>> 5. Have flexibility to tinker with software
>> 6. Learn about how things work
>> 7. Have (some) freedom to do modifications
>> 8. Not be limited to one software manufacturer or brand
>> 9. Then get Dell.
>> Both have excellent warranty and service. The Dell you will definitely
>> get more bang for your buck. The Apple is basically dumb proof, and
>> you will learn more with Dell.
>> MAC book has inbuilt screen reader VoiceOver.
>>
>> On 9/5/22, rahul agarwal  wrote:
>> > hi all,hi all,
>> > I want to know, which laptop should I buy whether mac book or general
>>