[AI] disability sensus
You said: "Caste, religion etc. can't be identified without a certificate, but disability can be identified by the very presence of the person. So, I don't know how and why we want to hide this aspect" . What if it is a hidden or invisible disability? The presence of the person would neither confirm or deny the presence of a disability. Jean To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] disability sensus
The problem is many families do not divulge the detail of a disabled member since they consider it an unsuitable thing to mention. This is largely based on ignorance and lack of education which is largely the case. That is why they are trying all kinds of subtle ways to get the information accurately. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jean Parker Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:43 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] disability sensus You said: "Caste, religion etc. can't be identified without a certificate, but disability can be identified by the very presence of the person. So, I don't know how and why we want to hide this aspect" . What if it is a hidden or invisible disability? The presence of the person would neither confirm or deny the presence of a disability. Jean To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] disability sensus
Hi Jean, What do you mean by hidden or invisible disability? I don't see any such term unless a person wants to hide his disability, which, in my view, is unnecessary. -- G. Vamshi PH Res : +91 877-2243861 Mobile: +91 9949349497 E-mail ID: gvamsh...@gmail.com Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org >From darkness unto light On 4/18/10, Jean Parker wrote: > You said: > "Caste, religion etc. can't be identified without a certificate, but > disability can be identified by the very presence of the person. So, > I don't know how and why we want to hide this aspect" > . > > What if it is a hidden or invisible disability? The presence of the person > would neither confirm or deny the presence of a disability. > Jean > > > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] disability sensus
Probably she means things like dyslexia, even low vision, which is not obvious yet is existing. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:28 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] disability sensus Hi Jean, What do you mean by hidden or invisible disability? I don't see any such term unless a person wants to hide his disability, which, in my view, is unnecessary. -- G. Vamshi PH Res : +91 877-2243861 Mobile: +91 9949349497 E-mail ID: gvamsh...@gmail.com Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org >From darkness unto light On 4/18/10, Jean Parker wrote: > You said: > "Caste, religion etc. can't be identified without a certificate, but > disability can be identified by the very presence of the person. So, > I don't know how and why we want to hide this aspect" > . > > What if it is a hidden or invisible disability? The presence of the person > would neither confirm or deny the presence of a disability. > Jean > > > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] disability sensus
no not always some time it is very harmfull you - Original Message - From: "Jean Parker" To: Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:43 PM Subject: [AI] disability sensus You said: "Caste, religion etc. can't be identified without a certificate, but disability can be identified by the very presence of the person. So, I don't know how and why we want to hide this aspect" . What if it is a hidden or invisible disability? The presence of the person would neither confirm or deny the presence of a disability. Jean To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] disability sensus
The question is: whether a disability is relevant in general for public interaction in the world or not. The deniers of including disability in UID card seem to think that disability is an irrelevant consideration in general, so why must it be mentioned in identity card? However, it may or may not be a relevant consideration in a particular context. However, it is a relevant factor in general. We seem to count it relevant, when we can use it to our advantage and at other times, we discount it as if it never existed. I can understand this approach as a survival strategy in the evolutionary world, but This approach is clearly wrong. We may contest the relevance of disability in a particular situation, and we may also differ in the ways it is relevant in a given case, but as a rule, disability is surely relevant while leading life. So, why not mention it in UID card which is a general purpose instrument? In India, even caste and religion are still relevant, like in America, race, or color is still relevant, in Africa also it is there. Anyone who escapes from relevant reality surely slips into a cocoon of one's own from which it is difficult to emerge. I can deal with doubts regarding relevance of various factors separately, but we are living in a condition where far more factors are relevant than we can think. Regards "Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him." --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jean Parker Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:43 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] disability sensus You said: "Caste, religion etc. can't be identified without a certificate, but disability can be identified by the very presence of the person. So, I don't know how and why we want to hide this aspect" . What if it is a hidden or invisible disability? The presence of the person would neither confirm or deny the presence of a disability. Jean To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in