Re: [AI] problem with Walking
Where do you reside, Raju? I feel that taking initiative holds the key. Risks are of course involved, and they are quite tangible too. Thinking that a blind person would receive no injuries should he gets out alone is quite superstitious. Regards, Shadab shadablucknow.blogspot.com On 6/10/10, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: i think that one should go for mobility training, if possible. - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking Hello, I found a book on mobility in ms word format at Inclusive Planet web site. The title teaching blind the mobility skills and independent living sounds promising. I have downloaded it, but not read yet. Here is the direct link for members: http://www.inclusiveplanet.com/en/book/531893 If you are not yet a member, just join the community. It's free and it's exclusively for us. Best regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: 91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking not at all! you can walk alone, once you decided. better you must start it with white cane. usually we say long cane. if i walk alone, i use long cane, if escorted, i keep folding cane with me. now here i will tell you some mobility techniques, nobody can guarantee, whether they will work, in your environment, but, it will support you to maximum extent possible. hold the long cane and bend it down to the level of your belt. now keep the head of cane one or two inches far from the zip of your belt. and the tail (tip) of the cane should be in front and stuck on the floor. grip your cane with your right arm, your fore finger should be open and stick on the cane. now you can move forward. but, do one thing. when you step your right leg, you must stuck your cane to the left, as you step your left leg, your cane should stuck on right. as per the mobility rules, one should not walk on footpath. instead, you should walk on the road and use the footpath as sure line. hope this will help. - Original Message - From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:47 AM Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] problem with Walking
dear friend, earlier, I could see better. so I never used white cane. but from 1998, I began to use this wonderful device. in the beginning, we will have some difficulties. but when time passes, everything will be allright. so you come forward boldly. soon you will find it very easy and comfortable to walk with white cane. I didn't get any training. still, I can manage it easily and safely. of course, if you get some training, it will help you. wish you all the best. Ameen. - Original Message - From: prateek aggarwal prateekagarwa...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking Hello there, Walking independently is certainly one of the most essential skills a blind person should know. Though I myself am not an expert in walking as I’ve never taken any formal training in it, but with experience I can move at my own without much hassles, so I can tell you out of experience that its not difficult. The first and most important thing in order to walk independently is to build a self confidence in your own that you can move by yourself. If you’ve obtained the confidence in you, you are half way ahead! Here, could you please tell in which city you do reside? There are a number of cities where mobility trainings are imparted to persons with visual impairment by some organizations. If your city has such an organization, you may go there and learn the skills. Do let the list know about your city, folks here would let you know if there is any institute or individual who can teach you the mobility skills. However, before all this, as I already said, that you need to build a confidence in your own self about moving independently. Its very easy, mate, you do not need to worry about anything. As per risks involved, they are there with sighted people as well. Aren’t they? regards, Prateek agarwal. Skype: Prateek_agarwal32 Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope: http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com website: http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs. You tell, I’ll build. ---original message--- From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:47:36 +0530 Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Yes, at least the ground level surveying can be done effectively, though the cane of little help when it comes to locating objects suspended above the head level such as a low-hanging tree branch or an open truck door. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of harish Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:56 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking Dear Rahul The cane has more function to do than a support. It is a probe which will give a blind user the texture of the surface. for instance on a road the surface is smoother towards the middle of the road and becomes progressively rougher towards the edges. Hence the differential of rough and smooth surface helps us not to land in the middle of the road and keep a straight line along the road even if the path is not straight. The length of the cane should be ideally chest height. this gives us 2 step response time to respond to situations. The walker cannot do all that and if there is a pit there is greater chances he would go down with a walker. Harish Kotian - Original Message - From: rahul cherian rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking Hi, Has anyone tried using a walker instead of a stick? I am mobility impaired and I sometimes use a walker especially in the night when there is a power cut. I find that the advantage of a walker is that the chances of falling are close to zero. Cheers, Rahul On 9 June 2010 14:08, prateek aggarwal prateekagarwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there, Walking independently is certainly one of the most essential skills a blind person should know. Though I myself am not an expert in walking as I've never taken any formal training in it, but with experience I can move at my own without much hassles, so I can tell you out of experience that its not difficult. The first and most important thing in order to walk independently is to build a self confidence in your own that you can move by yourself. If you've obtained the confidence in you, you are half way ahead! Here, could you please tell in which city you do reside? There are a number of cities where mobility trainings are imparted to persons with visual impairment by some organizations. If your city has such an organization, you may go there and learn the skills. Do let the list know about your city, folks here would let you know if there is any institute or individual who can teach you the mobility skills. However, before all this, as I already said, that you need to build a confidence in your own self about moving independently. Its very easy, mate, you do not need to worry about anything. As per risks involved, they are there with sighted people as well. Aren't they? regards, Prateek agarwal. Skype: Prateek_agarwal32 Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope: http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com website: http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs. You tell, I'll build. ---original message--- From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:47:36 +0530 Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode
Re: [AI] problem with Walking
But life and health are too big to play with. So, taking some basic training is important. There may be some people who have learnt everything on their own. But I don't think this should be the general rule for all blinds. Regards, Vamshi G M: +91 9949349497 R: +91 877 2243861 Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shadab Husain Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking Where do you reside, Raju? I feel that taking initiative holds the key. Risks are of course involved, and they are quite tangible too. Thinking that a blind person would receive no injuries should he gets out alone is quite superstitious. Regards, Shadab shadablucknow.blogspot.com On 6/10/10, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: i think that one should go for mobility training, if possible. - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking Hello, I found a book on mobility in ms word format at Inclusive Planet web site. The title teaching blind the mobility skills and independent living sounds promising. I have downloaded it, but not read yet. Here is the direct link for members: http://www.inclusiveplanet.com/en/book/531893 If you are not yet a member, just join the community. It's free and it's exclusively for us. Best regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: 91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking not at all! you can walk alone, once you decided. better you must start it with white cane. usually we say long cane. if i walk alone, i use long cane, if escorted, i keep folding cane with me. now here i will tell you some mobility techniques, nobody can guarantee, whether they will work, in your environment, but, it will support you to maximum extent possible. hold the long cane and bend it down to the level of your belt. now keep the head of cane one or two inches far from the zip of your belt. and the tail (tip) of the cane should be in front and stuck on the floor. grip your cane with your right arm, your fore finger should be open and stick on the cane. now you can move forward. but, do one thing. when you step your right leg, you must stuck your cane to the left, as you step your left leg, your cane should stuck on right. as per the mobility rules, one should not walk on footpath. instead, you should walk on the road and use the footpath as sure line. hope this will help. - Original Message - From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:47 AM Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ
Re: [AI] problem with Walking
Taking initiatives and taking risks are two different things. If one is confident of doing something one has to do with full awareness of the risks involved. Even .01 per cent of lack of confidence is not good and one has to stop doing it in such cases. We are not talking about hiking Mt. Everest or piloting jumbojet, but walking on the road with clear understanding of the environment. V I persons should be encouraged to do this with the clear understanding of the risks involved and should not be scared off. I know this is not your intention but we have to teach people to trust themselves first. There is certainly a thin line that separates caution and recklessness and one has to tread this grey area in order to achieve independence. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi G Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:06 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking But life and health are too big to play with. So, taking some basic training is important. There may be some people who have learnt everything on their own. But I don't think this should be the general rule for all blinds. Regards, Vamshi G M: +91 9949349497 R: +91 877 2243861 Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shadab Husain Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking Where do you reside, Raju? I feel that taking initiative holds the key. Risks are of course involved, and they are quite tangible too. Thinking that a blind person would receive no injuries should he gets out alone is quite superstitious. Regards, Shadab shadablucknow.blogspot.com On 6/10/10, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: i think that one should go for mobility training, if possible. - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking Hello, I found a book on mobility in ms word format at Inclusive Planet web site. The title teaching blind the mobility skills and independent living sounds promising. I have downloaded it, but not read yet. Here is the direct link for members: http://www.inclusiveplanet.com/en/book/531893 If you are not yet a member, just join the community. It's free and it's exclusively for us. Best regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: 91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking not at all! you can walk alone, once you decided. better you must start it with white cane. usually we say long cane. if i walk alone, i use long cane, if escorted, i keep folding cane with me. now here i will tell you some mobility techniques, nobody can guarantee, whether they will work, in your environment, but, it will support you to maximum extent possible. hold the long cane and bend it down to the level of your belt. now keep the head of cane one or two inches far from the zip of your belt. and the tail (tip) of the cane should be in front and stuck on the floor. grip your cane with your right arm, your fore finger should be open and stick on the cane. now you can move forward. but, do one thing. when you step your right leg, you must stuck your cane to the left, as you step your left leg, your cane should stuck on right. as per the mobility rules, one should not walk on footpath. instead, you should walk on the road and use the footpath as sure line. hope this will help. - Original Message - From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:47 AM Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss
[AI] problem with Walking
Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] problem with Walking
hai raju singh there are many tricks for using the stick, as an EG. you must land your left leg when the stick is on your right, and same you must land your right leg when your stick is left side.there is a corse for the blinds for walking and traveling called (mobility), there are many rules as EG. upper body protection, lovar body protection, surching methods ETC. by following these rules we are abel to walk easily. please contact some blind school.- Original Message - From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:47 AM Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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hello m r raju after reading your's mail i want to say that firstly you should leav the consept that u cant go markit and dont hesitate for walk alone i think the walkintg along is the game of mind for more quiry u should make contect with a person who has abilty to walk alone with thanks malkitsingh email malkit.b...@gmail.com skype malkitsingh91 mobile 09815775820 09217949321 - Original Message - From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:47 AM Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Hello there, Walking independently is certainly one of the most essential skills a blind person should know. Though I myself am not an expert in walking as I’ve never taken any formal training in it, but with experience I can move at my own without much hassles, so I can tell you out of experience that its not difficult. The first and most important thing in order to walk independently is to build a self confidence in your own that you can move by yourself. If you’ve obtained the confidence in you, you are half way ahead! Here, could you please tell in which city you do reside? There are a number of cities where mobility trainings are imparted to persons with visual impairment by some organizations. If your city has such an organization, you may go there and learn the skills. Do let the list know about your city, folks here would let you know if there is any institute or individual who can teach you the mobility skills. However, before all this, as I already said, that you need to build a confidence in your own self about moving independently. Its very easy, mate, you do not need to worry about anything. As per risks involved, they are there with sighted people as well. Aren’t they? regards, Prateek agarwal. Skype: Prateek_agarwal32 Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope: http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com website: http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs. You tell, I’ll build. ---original message--- From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:47:36 +0530 Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Hi, Has anyone tried using a walker instead of a stick? I am mobility impaired and I sometimes use a walker especially in the night when there is a power cut. I find that the advantage of a walker is that the chances of falling are close to zero. Cheers, Rahul On 9 June 2010 14:08, prateek aggarwal prateekagarwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there, Walking independently is certainly one of the most essential skills a blind person should know. Though I myself am not an expert in walking as I’ve never taken any formal training in it, but with experience I can move at my own without much hassles, so I can tell you out of experience that its not difficult. The first and most important thing in order to walk independently is to build a self confidence in your own that you can move by yourself. If you’ve obtained the confidence in you, you are half way ahead! Here, could you please tell in which city you do reside? There are a number of cities where mobility trainings are imparted to persons with visual impairment by some organizations. If your city has such an organization, you may go there and learn the skills. Do let the list know about your city, folks here would let you know if there is any institute or individual who can teach you the mobility skills. However, before all this, as I already said, that you need to build a confidence in your own self about moving independently. Its very easy, mate, you do not need to worry about anything. As per risks involved, they are there with sighted people as well. Aren’t they? regards, Prateek agarwal. Skype: Prateek_agarwal32 Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope: http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com website: http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs. You tell, I’ll build. ---original message--- From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:47:36 +0530 Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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are you late blind? see, reading advise and doing prectical, there is broad diffrence between both. so i think you must take training of mobility from some vi institute. it will be deffenetly help you. - Original Message - From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:47 AM Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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To put it lightly, every company has go to market strategy --and every visually challenged person must have a go to market strategy as well. Easiest way is to learn to use the cane and learn to do things independently, though you may occasionally have discomforts about it. Let fear not stop your urge to do things yourself. This will lift your confidence. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Raju singh Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:48 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Frankly speaking, I despair of the possibility of blind persons moving alone in today's urban milieu. Though I don't deny the pressing need for it, I think one might avoid unless strictly necessary. Risks are with everyone, blind or sighted but, please don't equate the two. Lack of sight does limit us in myriad ways and mobility can be practiced for specific tasks, but general mobility is a far-cry for totally blind at least. Even if achieved, it often results in sacrificing dignity at places where we would like to preserve it. However, I would not advice anyone not to learn the tactics. In fact, I myself am planning to undergo any such course. I had heard Enable India conducts such short time courses. Would like to hear if they are doing so now. I have even travelled all alone in my college days, but unless it is strictly necessary, and if one can afford an escort, one should not do it, me thinks. Regards If you believe that there is a God, a God that made your body, and yet you think that you can do anything with that body that's dirty, then the fault lies with the manufacturer. --Lenny Bruce (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek aggarwal Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 2:08 PM To: accessindia Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking Hello there, Walking independently is certainly one of the most essential skills a blind person should know. Though I myself am not an expert in walking as I've never taken any formal training in it, but with experience I can move at my own without much hassles, so I can tell you out of experience that its not difficult. The first and most important thing in order to walk independently is to build a self confidence in your own that you can move by yourself. If you've obtained the confidence in you, you are half way ahead! Here, could you please tell in which city you do reside? There are a number of cities where mobility trainings are imparted to persons with visual impairment by some organizations. If your city has such an organization, you may go there and learn the skills. Do let the list know about your city, folks here would let you know if there is any institute or individual who can teach you the mobility skills. However, before all this, as I already said, that you need to build a confidence in your own self about moving independently. Its very easy, mate, you do not need to worry about anything. As per risks involved, they are there with sighted people as well. Aren't they? regards, Prateek agarwal. Skype: Prateek_agarwal32 Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope: http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com website: http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs. You tell, I'll build. ---original message--- From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:47:36 +0530 Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any
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hello, please contact me by phone or by skype, I will guide you orally explaining step by step On 6/9/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Frankly speaking, I despair of the possibility of blind persons moving alone in today's urban milieu. Though I don't deny the pressing need for it, I think one might avoid unless strictly necessary. Risks are with everyone, blind or sighted but, please don't equate the two. Lack of sight does limit us in myriad ways and mobility can be practiced for specific tasks, but general mobility is a far-cry for totally blind at least. Even if achieved, it often results in sacrificing dignity at places where we would like to preserve it. However, I would not advice anyone not to learn the tactics. In fact, I myself am planning to undergo any such course. I had heard Enable India conducts such short time courses. Would like to hear if they are doing so now. I have even travelled all alone in my college days, but unless it is strictly necessary, and if one can afford an escort, one should not do it, me thinks. Regards If you believe that there is a God, a God that made your body, and yet you think that you can do anything with that body that's dirty, then the fault lies with the manufacturer. --Lenny Bruce (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek aggarwal Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 2:08 PM To: accessindia Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking Hello there, Walking independently is certainly one of the most essential skills a blind person should know. Though I myself am not an expert in walking as I've never taken any formal training in it, but with experience I can move at my own without much hassles, so I can tell you out of experience that its not difficult. The first and most important thing in order to walk independently is to build a self confidence in your own that you can move by yourself. If you've obtained the confidence in you, you are half way ahead! Here, could you please tell in which city you do reside? There are a number of cities where mobility trainings are imparted to persons with visual impairment by some organizations. If your city has such an organization, you may go there and learn the skills. Do let the list know about your city, folks here would let you know if there is any institute or individual who can teach you the mobility skills. However, before all this, as I already said, that you need to build a confidence in your own self about moving independently. Its very easy, mate, you do not need to worry about anything. As per risks involved, they are there with sighted people as well. Aren't they? regards, Prateek agarwal. Skype: Prateek_agarwal32 Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope: http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com website: http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs. You tell, I'll build. ---original message--- From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:47:36 +0530 Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying
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not at all! you can walk alone, once you decided. better you must start it with white cane. usually we say long cane. if i walk alone, i use long cane, if escorted, i keep folding cane with me. now here i will tell you some mobility techniques, nobody can guarantee, whether they will work, in your environment, but, it will support you to maximum extent possible. hold the long cane and bend it down to the level of your belt. now keep the head of cane one or two inches far from the zip of your belt. and the tail (tip) of the cane should be in front and stuck on the floor. grip your cane with your right arm, your fore finger should be open and stick on the cane. now you can move forward. but, do one thing. when you step your right leg, you must stuck your cane to the left, as you step your left leg, your cane should stuck on right. as per the mobility rules, one should not walk on footpath. instead, you should walk on the road and use the footpath as sure line. hope this will help. - Original Message - From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:47 AM Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Hello, I found a book on mobility in ms word format at Inclusive Planet web site. The title teaching blind the mobility skills and independent living sounds promising. I have downloaded it, but not read yet. Here is the direct link for members: http://www.inclusiveplanet.com/en/book/531893 If you are not yet a member, just join the community. It's free and it's exclusively for us. Best regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: 91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking not at all! you can walk alone, once you decided. better you must start it with white cane. usually we say long cane. if i walk alone, i use long cane, if escorted, i keep folding cane with me. now here i will tell you some mobility techniques, nobody can guarantee, whether they will work, in your environment, but, it will support you to maximum extent possible. hold the long cane and bend it down to the level of your belt. now keep the head of cane one or two inches far from the zip of your belt. and the tail (tip) of the cane should be in front and stuck on the floor. grip your cane with your right arm, your fore finger should be open and stick on the cane. now you can move forward. but, do one thing. when you step your right leg, you must stuck your cane to the left, as you step your left leg, your cane should stuck on right. as per the mobility rules, one should not walk on footpath. instead, you should walk on the road and use the footpath as sure line. hope this will help. - Original Message - From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:47 AM Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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The cane is also more sensitive to obstacles and one can walk a great deal faster with it. Also, walkers are cumbersome when getting in and out of vehicles. A blind person should never substitute a cane with a walker. Geetha - Original Message - From: harish har...@accessindia.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking Dear Rahul The cane has more function to do than a support. It is a probe which will give a blind user the texture of the surface. for instance on a road the surface is smoother towards the middle of the road and becomes progressively rougher towards the edges. Hence the differential of rough and smooth surface helps us not to land in the middle of the road and keep a straight line along the road even if the path is not straight. The length of the cane should be ideally chest height. this gives us 2 step response time to respond to situations. The walker cannot do all that and if there is a pit there is greater chances he would go down with a walker. Harish Kotian - Original Message - From: rahul cherian rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking Hi, Has anyone tried using a walker instead of a stick? I am mobility impaired and I sometimes use a walker especially in the night when there is a power cut. I find that the advantage of a walker is that the chances of falling are close to zero. Cheers, Rahul On 9 June 2010 14:08, prateek aggarwal prateekagarwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there, Walking independently is certainly one of the most essential skills a blind person should know. Though I myself am not an expert in walking as I’ve never taken any formal training in it, but with experience I can move at my own without much hassles, so I can tell you out of experience that its not difficult. The first and most important thing in order to walk independently is to build a self confidence in your own that you can move by yourself. If you’ve obtained the confidence in you, you are half way ahead! Here, could you please tell in which city you do reside? There are a number of cities where mobility trainings are imparted to persons with visual impairment by some organizations. If your city has such an organization, you may go there and learn the skills. Do let the list know about your city, folks here would let you know if there is any institute or individual who can teach you the mobility skills. However, before all this, as I already said, that you need to build a confidence in your own self about moving independently. Its very easy, mate, you do not need to worry about anything. As per risks involved, they are there with sighted people as well. Aren’t they? regards, Prateek agarwal. Skype: Prateek_agarwal32 Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope: http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com website: http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs. You tell, I’ll build. ---original message--- From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:47:36 +0530 Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in
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Dear raju, I would like to sagest you to learn how a blind parson can walk on the road without anybodies help, You mast go to the trainer who can teach you as good as possible, Because a person can not learn things without any teacher. As you have written raju Stevens I think you are in Delhi if I am right, so go to blind relief association and meet MR Ramashre who will definitely help you Regards On 6/9/10, Geetha Shamanna gee...@millernorbert.de wrote: The cane is also more sensitive to obstacles and one can walk a great deal faster with it. Also, walkers are cumbersome when getting in and out of vehicles. A blind person should never substitute a cane with a walker. Geetha - Original Message - From: harish har...@accessindia.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking Dear Rahul The cane has more function to do than a support. It is a probe which will give a blind user the texture of the surface. for instance on a road the surface is smoother towards the middle of the road and becomes progressively rougher towards the edges. Hence the differential of rough and smooth surface helps us not to land in the middle of the road and keep a straight line along the road even if the path is not straight. The length of the cane should be ideally chest height. this gives us 2 step response time to respond to situations. The walker cannot do all that and if there is a pit there is greater chances he would go down with a walker. Harish Kotian - Original Message - From: rahul cherian rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking Hi, Has anyone tried using a walker instead of a stick? I am mobility impaired and I sometimes use a walker especially in the night when there is a power cut. I find that the advantage of a walker is that the chances of falling are close to zero. Cheers, Rahul On 9 June 2010 14:08, prateek aggarwal prateekagarwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there, Walking independently is certainly one of the most essential skills a blind person should know. Though I myself am not an expert in walking as I’ve never taken any formal training in it, but with experience I can move at my own without much hassles, so I can tell you out of experience that its not difficult. The first and most important thing in order to walk independently is to build a self confidence in your own that you can move by yourself. If you’ve obtained the confidence in you, you are half way ahead! Here, could you please tell in which city you do reside? There are a number of cities where mobility trainings are imparted to persons with visual impairment by some organizations. If your city has such an organization, you may go there and learn the skills. Do let the list know about your city, folks here would let you know if there is any institute or individual who can teach you the mobility skills. However, before all this, as I already said, that you need to build a confidence in your own self about moving independently. Its very easy, mate, you do not need to worry about anything. As per risks involved, they are there with sighted people as well. Aren’t they? regards, Prateek agarwal. Skype: Prateek_agarwal32 Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope: http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com website: http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs. You tell, I’ll build. ---original message--- From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:47:36 +0530 Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other
Re: [AI] problem with Walking
i think that one should go for mobility training, if possible. - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking Hello, I found a book on mobility in ms word format at Inclusive Planet web site. The title teaching blind the mobility skills and independent living sounds promising. I have downloaded it, but not read yet. Here is the direct link for members: http://www.inclusiveplanet.com/en/book/531893 If you are not yet a member, just join the community. It's free and it's exclusively for us. Best regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: 91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [AI] problem with Walking not at all! you can walk alone, once you decided. better you must start it with white cane. usually we say long cane. if i walk alone, i use long cane, if escorted, i keep folding cane with me. now here i will tell you some mobility techniques, nobody can guarantee, whether they will work, in your environment, but, it will support you to maximum extent possible. hold the long cane and bend it down to the level of your belt. now keep the head of cane one or two inches far from the zip of your belt. and the tail (tip) of the cane should be in front and stuck on the floor. grip your cane with your right arm, your fore finger should be open and stick on the cane. now you can move forward. but, do one thing. when you step your right leg, you must stuck your cane to the left, as you step your left leg, your cane should stuck on right. as per the mobility rules, one should not walk on footpath. instead, you should walk on the road and use the footpath as sure line. hope this will help. - Original Message - From: Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:47 AM Subject: [AI] problem with Walking Hi friend! I am raju Singh again sending you a big problem. my big problem is that I am unable to go in market. or any other new place, due to the fact that I can not use my stick. yes, ofcourse, that I have stick, but I have no idea about How to use stick In front of me. friend, When I was small, I use vehicle to go to school. Now I am 19th years old. and I am in college be.a first year. and I also using vehicle to go to college, and come again. therefore, I am facing a big problem that due to my great wickness of me that I need sighted person to walk, I had to loose so many opportunities and many works. therefore I am very grateful to all of you that Please guide me by replying the few questions that is there any rools to use stick? or How to use stick in a systematically to walk. Therefore friends, I am weighting your response. Thank you! Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
