Re: [AI] TROUBLED BY SILENT E-vehicles
Hi friends, I remember reading somewhere that in Canada, the government has made it mandatory for all EVs to have some kind of sound for the benefit of persons with blindness and low vision. Maybe, something similar can be lobbied for in India too. Cheers, Rohith On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 10:29 AM DR MD Muzamil Hussain < drmuzamileye...@gmail.com> wrote: > Blessings. > Thanks for raising this unique but important issue. > I wish to get inn the electric bus but because of no noise i am > unable. To whom I have to approach.I made some electric auto driver > some how, accessible when they saw me they use human voice and I > easily detect the audo . > > > > On 9/10/23, ilovec...@gmail.com wrote: > > Last week while I was crossing not so busy road I was hit by a > two-wheeler > > and sustained minor injuries. This happened despite waiting and > observing > > for a minute or so before crossing. I could realise the presence of that > > vehicle only after I was hit. I have been crossing alone this road more > > than ten years. These hybrid vehicles may create lot of problems for > blind > > pedestrians. > > > > Can some individuals/institutes take initiative and do something? > > > > > > > > -- > > Disclaimer: > > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the > > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the > mails > > sent through this mailing list.. > > > > > > Search for old postings at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "AccessIndia" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/036301d9e402%242f873d40%248e95b7c0%24%40gmail.com > . > > > > > -- > DR MD Muzamil Hussain > -Eyeway Helpdesk Executive/counselor > Partner Organization > *HELP Foundation J & K* A: 50 Tulsi Bagh, Behind Amar Singh College, > Srinagar Jammu and Kashmir > India 190008. > > . P: +91-194-2310256 > > , > Toll free No, 18005320469. > Email Id : eyewayhelpd...@gmail.com > Website: www.eyeway.org.in > You can stay connected with us on > Eyeway WhatsApp no: -9968329329 > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAOd%2BsT78g6rCKH%2BomrKcOm4J6GOybAcR2eQRZNK2OboKpaFXxg%40mail.gmail.com > . > -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAAsaG4wJUKCTXRJ69yHs1h-cgmSBQRMEBmj3Wgxxvfn1eLWT5A%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AI] TROUBLED BY SILENT E-vehicles
Blessings. Thanks for raising this unique but important issue. I wish to get inn the electric bus but because of no noise i am unable. To whom I have to approach.I made some electric auto driver some how, accessible when they saw me they use human voice and I easily detect the audo . On 9/10/23, ilovec...@gmail.com wrote: > Last week while I was crossing not so busy road I was hit by a two-wheeler > and sustained minor injuries. This happened despite waiting and observing > for a minute or so before crossing. I could realise the presence of that > vehicle only after I was hit. I have been crossing alone this road more > than ten years. These hybrid vehicles may create lot of problems for blind > pedestrians. > > Can some individuals/institutes take initiative and do something? > > > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/036301d9e402%242f873d40%248e95b7c0%24%40gmail.com. > -- DR MD Muzamil Hussain -Eyeway Helpdesk Executive/counselor Partner Organization *HELP Foundation J & K* A: 50 Tulsi Bagh, Behind Amar Singh College, Srinagar Jammu and Kashmir India 190008. . P: +91-194-2310256 , Toll free No, 18005320469. Email Id : eyewayhelpd...@gmail.com Website: www.eyeway.org.in You can stay connected with us on Eyeway WhatsApp no: -9968329329 -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAOd%2BsT78g6rCKH%2BomrKcOm4J6GOybAcR2eQRZNK2OboKpaFXxg%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AI] TROUBLED BY SILENT E-vehicles
Yes it should be done On Mon 11 Sep, 2023, 7:45 AM Aravind R, wrote: > they may deny to include sound saying noice polution. so we have to > prepare for that side of argument also. > > On 10/09/2023, Naman Parakh wrote: > > Most electric vehicles come with built-in speakers. My brother owns an > Ola > > S1 Pro and has seen videos of similar vehicles that offer the option to > use > > the speakers to simulate engine sounds. However, this feature is > currently > > designed to be manually activated by the vehicle owner. If someone were > to > > take this matter to court and request electric vehicle manufacturers to > > update their software to enable this feature by default and prevent > owners > > from disabling it, that might solve the issue. > > > > One potential issue that I believe could still arise is the presence of > > older electric vehicles that lack speakers and advanced software > > capabilities, and even the electric cars equipped with cabin speakers. > > > > For this to happen, the entire production line would need to be modified > for > > manufacturers producing speakerless vehicles. On the other hand, > companies > > like Ola Electric would only need to make slight changes to their > software. > > > > We should also note that requesting changes from companies on our end may > > not result in significant modifications because flexible software with > more > > customization options is important for their sales to users. > > > > > > > > > > > > Naman Parakh > > > > > > > > From: ilovec...@gmail.com > > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2023 9:46 PM > > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > > Cc: sayeveryth...@lists.sayeverything.org > > Subject: [AI] TROUBLED BY SILENT E-vehicles > > > > > > > > Last week while I was crossing not so busy road I was hit by a > two-wheeler > > and sustained minor injuries. This happened despite waiting and > observing > > for a minute or so before crossing. I could realise the presence of that > > vehicle only after I was hit. I have been crossing alone this road more > > than ten years. These hybrid vehicles may create lot of problems for > blind > > pedestrians. > > > > Can some individuals/institutes take initiative and do something? > > > > > > > > -- > > Disclaimer: > > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the > > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the > mails > > sent through this mailing list.. > > > > > > Search for old postings at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "AccessIndia" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/036301d9e402%242f873d40%248e95b7c0%24%40gmail.com > . > > > > > > > > -- > > Disclaimer: > > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the > > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the > mails > > sent through this mailing list.. > > > > > > Search for old postings at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "AccessIndia" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/3E81282F-F9C9-4646-A679-F35CE6CBF0B1%40hxcore.ol > . > > > > > -- > > > -- > -- > nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. > > r. aravind, > > manager > Department of sales > bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai. > mobile no: +91 9940369593, > email id : aravind_...@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com. > aravind.rajend...@bankofbaroda.co.in. > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit >
Re: [AI] TROUBLED BY SILENT E-vehicles
they may deny to include sound saying noice polution. so we have to prepare for that side of argument also. On 10/09/2023, Naman Parakh wrote: > Most electric vehicles come with built-in speakers. My brother owns an Ola > S1 Pro and has seen videos of similar vehicles that offer the option to use > the speakers to simulate engine sounds. However, this feature is currently > designed to be manually activated by the vehicle owner. If someone were to > take this matter to court and request electric vehicle manufacturers to > update their software to enable this feature by default and prevent owners > from disabling it, that might solve the issue. > > One potential issue that I believe could still arise is the presence of > older electric vehicles that lack speakers and advanced software > capabilities, and even the electric cars equipped with cabin speakers. > > For this to happen, the entire production line would need to be modified for > manufacturers producing speakerless vehicles. On the other hand, companies > like Ola Electric would only need to make slight changes to their software. > > We should also note that requesting changes from companies on our end may > not result in significant modifications because flexible software with more > customization options is important for their sales to users. > > > > > > Naman Parakh > > > > From: ilovec...@gmail.com > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2023 9:46 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Cc: sayeveryth...@lists.sayeverything.org > Subject: [AI] TROUBLED BY SILENT E-vehicles > > > > Last week while I was crossing not so busy road I was hit by a two-wheeler > and sustained minor injuries. This happened despite waiting and observing > for a minute or so before crossing. I could realise the presence of that > vehicle only after I was hit. I have been crossing alone this road more > than ten years. These hybrid vehicles may create lot of problems for blind > pedestrians. > > Can some individuals/institutes take initiative and do something? > > > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/036301d9e402%242f873d40%248e95b7c0%24%40gmail.com. > > > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/3E81282F-F9C9-4646-A679-F35CE6CBF0B1%40hxcore.ol. > -- -- -- nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. r. aravind, manager Department of sales bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai. mobile no: +91 9940369593, email id : aravind_...@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com. aravind.rajend...@bankofbaroda.co.in. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAFZpANDnDX%2BXScpL3s%3DpPZ790kpNjXHJ1NaCBwOLbf%2BA3ybPhA%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: [AI] TROUBLED BY SILENT E-vehicles
Most electric vehicles come with built-in speakers. My brother owns an Ola S1 Pro and has seen videos of similar vehicles that offer the option to use the speakers to simulate engine sounds. However, this feature is currently designed to be manually activated by the vehicle owner. If someone were to take this matter to court and request electric vehicle manufacturers to update their software to enable this feature by default and prevent owners from disabling it, that might solve the issue.One potential issue that I believe could still arise is the presence of older electric vehicles that lack speakers and advanced software capabilities, and even the electric cars equipped with cabin speakers.For this to happen, the entire production line would need to be modified for manufacturers producing speakerless vehicles. On the other hand, companies like Ola Electric would only need to make slight changes to their software.We should also note that requesting changes from companies on our end may not result in significant modifications because flexible software with more customization options is important for their sales to users. Naman Parakh From: ilovec...@gmail.comSent: Sunday, September 10, 2023 9:46 PMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.inCc: sayeveryth...@lists.sayeverything.orgSubject: [AI] TROUBLED BY SILENT E-vehicles Last week while I was crossing not so busy road I was hit by a two-wheeler and sustained minor injuries. This happened despite waiting and observing for a minute or so before crossing. I could realise the presence of that vehicle only after I was hit. I have been crossing alone this road more than ten years. These hybrid vehicles may create lot of problems for blind pedestrians. Can some individuals/institutes take initiative and do something? -- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/036301d9e402%242f873d40%248e95b7c0%24%40gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/3E81282F-F9C9-4646-A679-F35CE6CBF0B1%40hxcore.ol.
