Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking -Bangalore Mirrorwith picture
Rather than throwing mud at Enable India we should collectively raise our voice against the irresponsibleness of governmennt departments which lets them leave the pot holes open. Not just in Bangalore all across India the storey is the same. After making ditches on the road sides whoever dig it are leaving them open. Not only visually impaired, but sighted are also having problems from them. After this incident within hours BBMP people closed the ditch in front of Enable India, but still there are places where it is open. So there should be efforts to hold the concerned government departments accountable. There should be efforts at the national level since this problem is wide-spread in India. To speak personally, I am one of those who have benifited from Enable India's good work. After losing my sight in 2007, for 7 years I was shut inside my home. Last april I joine their CCCT course, I finished the course last June and now I will be joining one of the MNCs in Banglore very soon. One year back I never thought I would get job and I would go out of my home. But now Enable India has given me my life back. Not just me more than thousand disabled have got benifited out of their good work. They have placed around 2000 disabled in different companies. I don't think in India any other NGO has study materials as good as the materials of Enable India. If one has their Eye Tool one doesn't need any trainer to learn computer. It is that efficient. And the argument that it was because Enable India is run by sighted people they let this incident happen is completely wrong. If you had known how much the founder is doing for the disabled you would not have said this. Her Disability Awareness Workshop has played a big role in creating awareness about disability in corporates. So please don't measure all the NGOs with the same yardstic. Thank you, Ratheesh\ On 8/10/14, haridaskrishnamur...@gmail.com haridaskrishnamur...@gmail.com wrote: T -this is because most of the n g os inbangalore are managed by normal people .Original message- From: P. Subramani Sent: 09/08/2014, 12:39 PM To: George Abraham; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking -BangaloreMirrorwith picture Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking -Bangalore Mirrorwith pictureI have to be very clear that neverever I accused Enable India, my accusations were/are in general terms to NGOs. Surely as you say, enable India should have played a proactive role, I meant only that. There are many NGOs working in the disabled sector, the path to their premises are totally inaccessible with potholes, electric poles, drains, etc., on which such NGOs have not cared to act by taking up with local authorities. When NGOs can organise huge functions/meetings, there is absolutely no reasons for not acting in this regard. Praising NGOs for good things is worthwhile, also they have to face the critics for not acting on many fronts. Those heading NGOs always speak for the NGOs. - Original Message - From: George Abraham To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking -Bangalore Mirrorwith picture Perhaps Enable India could have and should have requested authorities to cover the drain in front of their office. Having said this, I would emphatically state that it is wrong for us to accuse Enable India to simply be interested in taking donations and grants. Do you know the background and kind of the work Enable India does? It has become extremely fashionable for people to loosely hurl criticism on NGOs. I would like to state here that Enable India is responsible for a number of our blind friends today taking up fairly paying jobs in the Private sector. Their training programmes are of high quality. They not only have setup skill development programmes but also are constantly working out work place solutions. To generate high quality training programmes, you need good quality professionals and to hire and keep high quality professionals, you need funds. Enable India is doing good work and need to be appreciated. Again I say, it is definitely within our rights to point out that Enable India could and should have played a proactive role in closing the drain in front of their office but certainly none of us have the right to accuse them of being being merely donation/grant focused. Let us be mature in our statements. Access India is a public forum and we must be responsible with our comments. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of P. Subramani Sent: 02 August 2014 13:28 To: Timy Sebastian; AccessIndia: a list
Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking -Bangalore Mirrorwith picture
Dear friends, I am requesting you to don’t blame enable India. BBMP did not close drainage. Enable India is not money minded organization they helped lot of disable candidates to become finish product through out India in corporate sector. Before discussing this matter we have to send letter state government of karnataka. I want to share important matter saying that two children fall down in bore well and death occurred. Government and citizen are responsible for these issues. Regards, Ganesh. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking - Bangalore Mirrorwith picture
Perhaps Enable India could have and should have requested authorities to cover the drain in front of their office. Having said this, I would emphatically state that it is wrong for us to accuse Enable India to simply be interested in taking donations and grants. Do you know the background and kind of the work Enable India does? It has become extremely fashionable for people to loosely hurl criticism on NGOs. I would like to state here that Enable India is responsible for a number of our blind friends today taking up fairly paying jobs in the Private sector. Their training programmes are of high quality. They not only have setup skill development programmes but also are constantly working out work place solutions. To generate high quality training programmes, you need good quality professionals and to hire and keep high quality professionals, you need funds. Enable India is doing good work and need to be appreciated. Again I say, it is definitely within our rights to point out that Enable India could and should have played a proactive role in closing the drain in front of their office but certainly none of us have the right to accuse them of being being merely donation/grant focused. Let us be mature in our statements. Access India is a public forum and we must be responsible with our comments. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of P. Subramani Sent: 02 August 2014 13:28 To: Timy Sebastian; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Cc: kfbyouth Subject: Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking - Bangalore Mirrorwith picture [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking - Bangalore Mirrorwith pictureApart from all these, the Enable India should have contacted BBMP for closing the manhole. Such associations never take up the causes/issues of blind, instead, they are interested with donations/govt grants, surely carelessness on enable India is much more than BBMP. - Original Message - From: Timy Sebastian To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Cc: kfbyouth Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:16 AM Subject: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking - Bangalore Mirrorwith picture sourse: http://www.bangaloremirror.com/bangalore/cover-story/BBMPs-callousness-brok en-arm-FIR-public-interest-litigation-Timy-Sebastian-drain-medical-transcri ption-company-EnAble-trust-blind-Jennifer-Pinto-Priya-Pinto-Timy-Sebastian/ articleshow/39373878.cms?prtpage=1 The five-foot deep ditch in front of EnAble India on Sarjapur Road, Koramangala I block, into which Timy Sebastian fell headlong and broke his arm A 31-year-old blind youth was lucky to survive with a broken arm after falling headlong into a 5-foot deep ditch; now he has taken on BBMP's callousness with an FIR Even for a person with 20/20 vision, it is quite a feat to safely cross the three-foot wide, uncovered shoulder drain just outside the commercial building that houses EnAble India, a charitable trust for persons with disability, located on Sarjapura Road in Koramangala I block near Wipro Junction. Imagine then, the plight of a blind person who uses a white cane to move around. Misfortune struck Timy Sebastian, a 31-year-old blind postgraduate from Kerala, who had come to the city to attend a computer training programme at EnAble, when he fell inside the five-foot deep drain and suffered a fractured humerus on the right arm and underwent a surgery. While EnAble is housed in the second floor, the building is also occupied by a medical transcription company, Lake System, in the first floor. Concerned over the difficulties being faced by the visually impaired people coming to EnAble India, staff at the medical transcription company had made repeated requests to cover the shoulder drain which was kept open for almost two months for desilting work. Had the BBMP not turned a blind eye to the dangers of the uncovered drain, Timy wouldn't have faced such a near disastrous mishap. And in a pointer to its callousness, the spot where the mishap occurred is still lying partially uncovered, even though Timy's visually impaired friends are still frequenting the EnAble trust. MISHAP MOCKS AT HC RULING Timy, a native of Kottayam in Kerala, had come to Koramangala to attend the training programme two months ago. He was put up at a paying guest accommodation in the vicinity, which was almost one kilometre away. Though completely blind, he is independent and uses a white cane for mobility. He is also comfortable using public transport as well as other facilities. On July 25, around 12.30 pm, Timy had finished his class at the institute and was stepping out to have lunch. Descending from the steps and stretching his cane out to find his way on the road, Timy noticed his cane wasn't coming in contact
Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking -Bangalore Mirrorwith picture
Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking -Bangalore Mirrorwith pictureI have to be very clear that neverever I accused Enable India, my accusations were/are in general terms to NGOs. Surely as you say, enable India should have played a proactive role, I meant only that. There are many NGOs working in the disabled sector, the path to their premises are totally inaccessible with potholes, electric poles, drains, etc., on which such NGOs have not cared to act by taking up with local authorities. When NGOs can organise huge functions/meetings, there is absolutely no reasons for not acting in this regard. Praising NGOs for good things is worthwhile, also they have to face the critics for not acting on many fronts. Those heading NGOs always speak for the NGOs. - Original Message - From: George Abraham To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking -Bangalore Mirrorwith picture Perhaps Enable India could have and should have requested authorities to cover the drain in front of their office. Having said this, I would emphatically state that it is wrong for us to accuse Enable India to simply be interested in taking donations and grants. Do you know the background and kind of the work Enable India does? It has become extremely fashionable for people to loosely hurl criticism on NGOs. I would like to state here that Enable India is responsible for a number of our blind friends today taking up fairly paying jobs in the Private sector. Their training programmes are of high quality. They not only have setup skill development programmes but also are constantly working out work place solutions. To generate high quality training programmes, you need good quality professionals and to hire and keep high quality professionals, you need funds. Enable India is doing good work and need to be appreciated. Again I say, it is definitely within our rights to point out that Enable India could and should have played a proactive role in closing the drain in front of their office but certainly none of us have the right to accuse them of being being merely donation/grant focused. Let us be mature in our statements. Access India is a public forum and we must be responsible with our comments. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of P. Subramani Sent: 02 August 2014 13:28 To: Timy Sebastian; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Cc: kfbyouth Subject: Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking - Bangalore Mirrorwith picture [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking - Bangalore Mirrorwith pictureApart from all these, the Enable India should have contacted BBMP for closing the manhole. Such associations never take up the causes/issues of blind, instead, they are interested with donations/govt grants, surely carelessness on enable India is much more than BBMP. - Original Message - From: Timy Sebastian To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Cc: kfbyouth Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:16 AM Subject: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking - Bangalore Mirrorwith picture sourse: http://www.bangaloremirror.com/bangalore/cover-story/BBMPs-callousness-brok en-arm-FIR-public-interest-litigation-Timy-Sebastian-drain-medical-transcri ption-company-EnAble-trust-blind-Jennifer-Pinto-Priya-Pinto-Timy-Sebastian/ articleshow/39373878.cms?prtpage=1 The five-foot deep ditch in front of EnAble India on Sarjapur Road, Koramangala I block, into which Timy Sebastian fell headlong and broke his arm A 31-year-old blind youth was lucky to survive with a broken arm after falling headlong into a 5-foot deep ditch; now he has taken on BBMP's callousness with an FIR Even for a person with 20/20 vision, it is quite a feat to safely cross the three-foot wide, uncovered shoulder drain just outside the commercial building that houses EnAble India, a charitable trust for persons with disability, located on Sarjapura Road in Koramangala I block near Wipro Junction. Imagine then, the plight of a blind person who uses a white cane to move around. Misfortune struck Timy Sebastian, a 31-year-old blind postgraduate from Kerala, who had come to the city to attend a computer training programme at EnAble, when he fell inside the five-foot deep drain and suffered a fractured humerus on the right arm and underwent a surgery. While EnAble is housed in the second floor, the building is also occupied by a medical transcription company, Lake System, in the first floor. Concerned over the difficulties being faced by the visually
Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking -Bangalore Mirrorwith picture
T -this is because most of the n g os inbangalore are managed by normal people .Original message- From: P. Subramani Sent: 09/08/2014, 12:39 PM To: George Abraham; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking -Bangalore Mirrorwith picture Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking -Bangalore Mirrorwith pictureI have to be very clear that neverever I accused Enable India, my accusations were/are in general terms to NGOs. Surely as you say, enable India should have played a proactive role, I meant only that. There are many NGOs working in the disabled sector, the path to their premises are totally inaccessible with potholes, electric poles, drains, etc., on which such NGOs have not cared to act by taking up with local authorities. When NGOs can organise huge functions/meetings, there is absolutely no reasons for not acting in this regard. Praising NGOs for good things is worthwhile, also they have to face the critics for not acting on many fronts. Those heading NGOs always speak for the NGOs. - Original Message - From: George Abraham To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking -Bangalore Mirrorwith picture Perhaps Enable India could have and should have requested authorities to cover the drain in front of their office. Having said this, I would emphatically state that it is wrong for us to accuse Enable India to simply be interested in taking donations and grants. Do you know the background and kind of the work Enable India does? It has become extremely fashionable for people to loosely hurl criticism on NGOs. I would like to state here that Enable India is responsible for a number of our blind friends today taking up fairly paying jobs in the Private sector. Their training programmes are of high quality. They not only have setup skill development programmes but also are constantly working out work place solutions. To generate high quality training programmes, you need good quality professionals and to hire and keep high quality professionals, you need funds. Enable India is doing good work and need to be appreciated. Again I say, it is definitely within our rights to point out that Enable India could and should have played a proactive role in closing the drain in front of their office but certainly none of us have the right to accuse them of being being merely donation/grant focused. Let us be mature in our statements. Access India is a public forum and we must be responsible with our comments. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of P. Subramani Sent: 02 August 2014 13:28 To: Timy Sebastian; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Cc: kfbyouth Subject: Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking - Bangalore Mirrorwith picture [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking - Bangalore Mirrorwith pictureApart from all these, the Enable India should have contacted BBMP for closing the manhole. Such associations never take up the causes/issues of blind, instead, they are interested with donations/govt grants, surely carelessness on enable India is much more than BBMP. - Original Message - From: Timy Sebastian To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Cc: kfbyouth Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:16 AM Subject: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking - Bangalore Mirrorwith picture sourse: http://www.bangaloremirror.com/bangalore/cover-story/BBMPs-callousness-brok en-arm-FIR-public-interest-litigation-Timy-Sebastian-drain-medical-transcri ption-company-EnAble-trust-blind-Jennifer-Pinto-Priya-Pinto-Timy-Sebastian/ articleshow/39373878.cms?prtpage=1 The five-foot deep ditch in front of EnAble India on Sarjapur Road, Koramangala I block, into which Timy Sebastian fell headlong and broke his arm A 31-year-old blind youth was lucky to survive with a broken arm after falling headlong into a 5-foot deep ditch; now he has taken on BBMP's callousness with an FIR Even for a person with 20/20 vision, it is quite a feat to safely cross the three-foot wide, uncovered shoulder drain just outside the commercial building that houses EnAble India, a charitable trust for persons with disability, located on Sarjapura Road in Koramangala I block near Wipro Junction. Imagine then, the plight of a blind person who uses a white cane to move around. Misfortune struck Timy Sebastian, a 31-year-old blind postgraduate from Kerala, who had come to the city to attend a computer training programme
Re: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking - Bangalore Mirrorwith picture
[AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking - Bangalore Mirrorwith pictureApart from all these, the Enable India should have contacted BBMP for closing the manhole. Such associations never take up the causes/issues of blind, instead, they are interested with donations/govt grants, surely carelessness on enable India is much more than BBMP. - Original Message - From: Timy Sebastian To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Cc: kfbyouth Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:16 AM Subject: [AI] BBMP's death trap blind man walking - Bangalore Mirrorwith picture sourse: http://www.bangaloremirror.com/bangalore/cover-story/BBMPs-callousness-broken-arm-FIR-public-interest-litigation-Timy-Sebastian-drain-medical-transcription-company-EnAble-trust-blind-Jennifer-Pinto-Priya-Pinto-Timy-Sebastian/articleshow/39373878.cms?prtpage=1 The five-foot deep ditch in front of EnAble India on Sarjapur Road, Koramangala I block, into which Timy Sebastian fell headlong and broke his arm A 31-year-old blind youth was lucky to survive with a broken arm after falling headlong into a 5-foot deep ditch; now he has taken on BBMP's callousness with an FIR Even for a person with 20/20 vision, it is quite a feat to safely cross the three-foot wide, uncovered shoulder drain just outside the commercial building that houses EnAble India, a charitable trust for persons with disability, located on Sarjapura Road in Koramangala I block near Wipro Junction. Imagine then, the plight of a blind person who uses a white cane to move around. Misfortune struck Timy Sebastian, a 31-year-old blind postgraduate from Kerala, who had come to the city to attend a computer training programme at EnAble, when he fell inside the five-foot deep drain and suffered a fractured humerus on the right arm and underwent a surgery. While EnAble is housed in the second floor, the building is also occupied by a medical transcription company, Lake System, in the first floor. Concerned over the difficulties being faced by the visually impaired people coming to EnAble India, staff at the medical transcription company had made repeated requests to cover the shoulder drain which was kept open for almost two months for desilting work. Had the BBMP not turned a blind eye to the dangers of the uncovered drain, Timy wouldn't have faced such a near disastrous mishap. And in a pointer to its callousness, the spot where the mishap occurred is still lying partially uncovered, even though Timy's visually impaired friends are still frequenting the EnAble trust. MISHAP MOCKS AT HC RULING Timy, a native of Kottayam in Kerala, had come to Koramangala to attend the training programme two months ago. He was put up at a paying guest accommodation in the vicinity, which was almost one kilometre away. Though completely blind, he is independent and uses a white cane for mobility. He is also comfortable using public transport as well as other facilities. On July 25, around 12.30 pm, Timy had finished his class at the institute and was stepping out to have lunch. Descending from the steps and stretching his cane out to find his way on the road, Timy noticed his cane wasn't coming in contact with solid ground. But alas, it was too late to prevent that fall, said Timy's family members speaking to BM from Kerala. He fell headlong into the almost five-foot deep drain and broke his right arm. Hearing his shouts for help, the owner of a departmental store on the ground floor of the same building came running out and rescued Timy. He was rushed to a nearby private hospital where he underwent surgery and was hospitalised for almost five days. Since he has been advised bed rest for almost two months, Timy was brought back home to Kerala. The victim has also filed an FIR against the concerned BBMP officials with the Koramangala police, the family members added. The mishap occurred just two days after the High Court of Karnataka ruled that pavements are the exclusive domain of walkers. The court, on a public interest litigation (PIL) filed by city activists Jennifer Pinto and Priya Pinto, had directed the Bruhat Bangalore Mahanagara Palike (BBMP) to remove all encroachments on footpaths within the next three months. Specifically, the court empowered the civic agency to clear obstructions to make the city pedestrian-friendly. But looks like instead of clearing obstructions, BBMP seems to be putting them up, as seen in the unfortunate incident involving Timy. When contacted, Jennifer told BM, Timy Sebastian's case indeed vindicates our stand. In fact the Association for the Visually Challenged had impleaded in our PIL. I appreciate Sebastian's decision to file a police complaint as people normally forget and move on. I think sooner than later the court must make BBMP responsible for such mishap
