Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind lecturerwho holds driving lisence and drives to work

[Parimala Bhat]

yes sir, I  do agree with yore statement. many organisations who were 
rendering their services to visually impaired, with a grate pride say that 
now they have extended their services to other catagories also.


thanks
- Original Message - 
From: "George Abraham" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 

Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind 
lecturerwho holds driving lisence and drives to work




Sirs,

Let me tell you in the quest of getting 2.5 million disabled persons
trained and placed in the next 7 years, people with vision impairment are
being systematically edged out. Several organisations who were training
blind youth for employment are now training people with other disabilities
just to get the numbers. They call it the low hanging fruit. Nobody wants
to take the difficult path that is required to engage with us the blind.
Ironically, we are the most educated but the least wanted. Corporates are
only interested in making the numbers. They get sufficient PH, HH and some
of them even go for MH/IH.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Nirmal Verma
Sent: 06 January 2016 14:07
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind lecturer
who holds driving lisence and drives to work

This is really serious issue. The system as whole wants to eliminate
totally blind from jobs. I can not give all the proofs here but totally
blind persons in public life would agree. See the examples in banks where
the low visions are generally preferred.

Nirmal
On Jan 6, 2016 1:58 PM, "Asudani, Rajesh"  
wrote:



Well said George jee.

However, let alone one eyed, I fail to understand, as I said yesterday,
what is 40% low vision, and what is 100%, and how to corelate all this LV
business to 40% blind and 100% blind, and so on?


When I had asked all this to an ophthalmologist well connected to
disability field and also that whether they can sort out  some one who

may

fake blindness/low vision from the genuine ones, he got angry, don't know
why.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of George Abraham
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 1:39 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind

lecturer

who holds driving lisence and drives to work

You are right! There are a number of one eyed people in India who avail

of

disability benefits. The problem is with the quality of disability
certification and also the understanding of definitions.

Often the process of certification is slip short and many organisations
across do not have a grasp of the definitions of blindness and low

vision.


Most of the policy initiatives taken up in the Govt are by people who do
not understand the D of disability. Hence we get half baked improper
solutions.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of Mahesh Narasimhan
Sent: 06 January 2016 13:27
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues

concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind

lecturer

who holds driving lisence and drives to work

Dear George Sir,

Thanks for the information. This is a point of concern for all the
visually impaired persons. I strongly believe there are individuals
amongst us who are 1 eyed and availing the benifits that a visually
impaired person would get. In such situation, where the institutions
that provide such persons the benifit of higher education or
employment must put such candidates for thorough medical tests. In
fact, I say, all the candidates who apply against PWD, must be put for
thorough medical tests. If found guilty in the medical tests, there
must be a portal wherein such candidates must be black listed and no
government organization must give them any chance of higher education
or employment.

--
"Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye & hand! If the
hand is hurt, the eye will cry! & when the eye cries, the hand will
wipe the tears"

With best regards,
Mahesh Narasimhan
Mobile: +91-9899353960
E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
Skype: maheshdel88




On 1/6/16, George Abraham  wrote:
> Mahesh, One eyed people are not considered disabled!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
> Of Mahesh Narasimhan
> Sent: 06 January 2016 11:26
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind
lecturer
> who holds driving lisence and drives to work

Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind lecturerwho holds driving lisence and drives to work

[S R Mittal]

George There is nothing about the quality of the certificate. Basically the
fault lie in the definition of low vision given in PWD act of 1995.

Mittal

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 1:39 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind
lecturerwho holds driving lisence and drives to work

You are right! There are a number of one eyed people in India who avail of
disability benefits. The problem is with the quality of disability
certification and also the understanding of definitions.

Often the process of certification is slip short and many organisations
across do not have a grasp of the definitions of blindness and low vision.

Most of the policy initiatives taken up in the Govt are by people who do
not understand the D of disability. Hence we get half baked improper
solutions. 


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mahesh Narasimhan
Sent: 06 January 2016 13:27
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind lecturer
who holds driving lisence and drives to work

Dear George Sir,

Thanks for the information. This is a point of concern for all the
visually impaired persons. I strongly believe there are individuals
amongst us who are 1 eyed and availing the benifits that a visually
impaired person would get. In such situation, where the institutions
that provide such persons the benifit of higher education or
employment must put such candidates for thorough medical tests. In
fact, I say, all the candidates who apply against PWD, must be put for
thorough medical tests. If found guilty in the medical tests, there
must be a portal wherein such candidates must be black listed and no
government organization must give them any chance of higher education
or employment.

-- 
"Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye & hand! If the
hand is hurt, the eye will cry! & when the eye cries, the hand will
wipe the tears"

With best regards,
Mahesh Narasimhan
Mobile: +91-9899353960
E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
Skype: maheshdel88




On 1/6/16, George Abraham  wrote:
> Mahesh, One eyed people are not considered disabled!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
> Of Mahesh Narasimhan
> Sent: 06 January 2016 11:26
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind
lecturer
> who holds driving lisence and drives to work
>
> Dear Folks,
> Greetings!
>
> I wish to know, is a one eyed person visually impaired person if that
> person has normal vision in the eye? I believe, that person is normal.
>
> In recruitments and selections of PWD, the concerned institutions must
> go for medical tests of such individuals. If found guilty, such
> individuals must face capital punishment because such individuals
> enjoy all benifits that accrue that a PWD gets whereas in normal
> course will not enjoy.
>
> --
> "Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye & hand! If the
> hand is hurt, the eye will cry! & when the eye cries, the hand will
> wipe the tears"
>
> With best regards,
> Mahesh Narasimhan
> Mobile: +91-9899353960
> E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
> Skype: maheshdel88
>
>
>
>
> On 1/5/16, narayan gadhvi  wrote:
>> Hello friends, we also got a Blind music teacher who goes on work on his
>> bike and Gujarat so what we can do
>>
>>
>> On January 5, 2016 3:17:39 PM avinash shahi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: avinash shahi 
>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 15:14:29 +0530
>>> Subject: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind lecturer who holds
>>> driving lisence and drives to work
>>> To: "pratap.m00" 
>>> Cc: jnuvision 
>>>
>>> This intervention by the Delhi Government was warranted and timely.
>>> TOI 10 December 2015
>>>
>>>
>>> DU college's hiring process under lens
>>> NEW DELHI: The Delhi government has once again locked horns with Delhi
>>> University, this time by stopping the recruitment process at Aditi
>>> Mahavidyalaya. Education minister Manish Sisodia issued an order on
>>> Tuesday evening instituting an inquiry and the director of higher
>>> education asked the college to stop the recruitment till the inquiry
>>> is over.
>>>
>>> The Bawana college is one of a dozen affiliated to DU that are funded
>>> entirely by the Delhi government.
>>>
>>> Sisodia's order said his office has received "numerous complaints"
>>> about the recruitment process for 

Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind lecturerwho holds driving lisence and drives to work

[George Abraham]

Not talking of the certificate. The certification process in terms of
testing, interpretation and is flawed in many parts of India.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of S R Mittal
Sent: 06 January 2016 15:47
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind
lecturerwho holds driving lisence and drives to work

George There is nothing about the quality of the certificate. Basically the
fault lie in the definition of low vision given in PWD act of 1995.

Mittal

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 1:39 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind
lecturerwho holds driving lisence and drives to work

You are right! There are a number of one eyed people in India who avail of
disability benefits. The problem is with the quality of disability
certification and also the understanding of definitions.

Often the process of certification is slip short and many organisations
across do not have a grasp of the definitions of blindness and low vision.

Most of the policy initiatives taken up in the Govt are by people who do
not understand the D of disability. Hence we get half baked improper
solutions. 


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mahesh Narasimhan
Sent: 06 January 2016 13:27
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind lecturer
who holds driving lisence and drives to work

Dear George Sir,

Thanks for the information. This is a point of concern for all the
visually impaired persons. I strongly believe there are individuals
amongst us who are 1 eyed and availing the benifits that a visually
impaired person would get. In such situation, where the institutions
that provide such persons the benifit of higher education or
employment must put such candidates for thorough medical tests. In
fact, I say, all the candidates who apply against PWD, must be put for
thorough medical tests. If found guilty in the medical tests, there
must be a portal wherein such candidates must be black listed and no
government organization must give them any chance of higher education
or employment.

-- 
"Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye & hand! If the
hand is hurt, the eye will cry! & when the eye cries, the hand will
wipe the tears"

With best regards,
Mahesh Narasimhan
Mobile: +91-9899353960
E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
Skype: maheshdel88




On 1/6/16, George Abraham  wrote:
> Mahesh, One eyed people are not considered disabled!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
> Of Mahesh Narasimhan
> Sent: 06 January 2016 11:26
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind
lecturer
> who holds driving lisence and drives to work
>
> Dear Folks,
> Greetings!
>
> I wish to know, is a one eyed person visually impaired person if that
> person has normal vision in the eye? I believe, that person is normal.
>
> In recruitments and selections of PWD, the concerned institutions must
> go for medical tests of such individuals. If found guilty, such
> individuals must face capital punishment because such individuals
> enjoy all benifits that accrue that a PWD gets whereas in normal
> course will not enjoy.
>
> --
> "Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye & hand! If the
> hand is hurt, the eye will cry! & when the eye cries, the hand will
> wipe the tears"
>
> With best regards,
> Mahesh Narasimhan
> Mobile: +91-9899353960
> E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
> Skype: maheshdel88
>
>
>
>
> On 1/5/16, narayan gadhvi  wrote:
>> Hello friends, we also got a Blind music teacher who goes on work on his
>> bike and Gujarat so what we can do
>>
>>
>> On January 5, 2016 3:17:39 PM avinash shahi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: avinash shahi 
>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 15:14:29 +0530
>>> Subject: Important: Aditi Mahavidyalaya has A blind lecturer who holds
>>> driving lisence and drives to work
>>> To: "pratap.m00" 
>>> Cc: jnuvision 
>>>
>>> This intervention by the Delhi Government was warranted and timely.
>>> TOI 10 December 2015
>>>
>>>
>>> DU college's hiring process under lens
>>> NEW DELHI: The Delhi government has once again locked horns with Delhi
>>> University, this time by stopping the