Re: [AI] How do you respond? Show leniency to visually impaired students, allow oral exams
Dear All, I fully agree with Ajay. We have to emphasize on the use of technology and taking exam on computers. Regards, Dr.B.S.M.Kumar Handset +919840139849 On 5/30/14, Rajagopal N gopalrajain...@gmail.com wrote: Use technology to -original message- Subject: Re: [AI] How do you respond? Show leniency to visually impaired students, allow oral exams From: Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com Date: 30-05-2014 10:19 am Hello, According to me, oral exams are not the way to go forward. And yes, the word leniency is totally unacceptable to me. You can't develop yourself in a skill based subject like science/ finance/ maths if you are dealt with leniency. We should stress on reasonable accommodations i.e. talking calculators, tools to describe graphs/ accessible equation editors but not leniency at all. P.s: didn't want to hurt anybody, sharing my own opinion from my past experiences. Thanks, Ajay On 5/30/14, Anirban Mukherjee sparsha.anir...@gmail.com wrote: i do think that we have to think beyond writers in any case because it puts too much stake on the performance of the writer, besides, there are myriad different guidelines as to who should be the amanuensis and so on. as far as oral examination is concerned, it is not acceptable because it puts too much on the consideration of the examiner. so, let there be a technology-based solution to the problem. warm greetings, Anirban Mukherjee On 5/30/14, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I thought blind students could take exams independently now? Get rid of writers during exams. We need more independence. Oral exams are tricky because there is no easy way to record answers and review them in case of a dispute. Yes I know, you could use digital recorders like they do when you trade in stock over the phone but that is a different kettle of fish. Pranav Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Ajay Minocha Mob : +91-9584076767 E mail : ajayminoc...@gmail.com p13aj...@iimidr.ac.in Skype: ajayminocha2 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode
Re: [AI] How do you respond? Show leniency to visually impaired students, allow oral exams
Hello, I too strongly feel we must use the computer in exams. In order to achieve that, we need to spread the computer literacy amongst all the VI folks from elementary school. On 5/30/14, Dr.B.S.M.Kumar drbsmku...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I fully agree with Ajay. We have to emphasize on the use of technology and taking exam on computers. Regards, Dr.B.S.M.Kumar Handset +919840139849 On 5/30/14, Rajagopal N gopalrajain...@gmail.com wrote: Use technology to -original message- Subject: Re: [AI] How do you respond? Show leniency to visually impaired students, allow oral exams From: Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com Date: 30-05-2014 10:19 am Hello, According to me, oral exams are not the way to go forward. And yes, the word leniency is totally unacceptable to me. You can't develop yourself in a skill based subject like science/ finance/ maths if you are dealt with leniency. We should stress on reasonable accommodations i.e. talking calculators, tools to describe graphs/ accessible equation editors but not leniency at all. P.s: didn't want to hurt anybody, sharing my own opinion from my past experiences. Thanks, Ajay On 5/30/14, Anirban Mukherjee sparsha.anir...@gmail.com wrote: i do think that we have to think beyond writers in any case because it puts too much stake on the performance of the writer, besides, there are myriad different guidelines as to who should be the amanuensis and so on. as far as oral examination is concerned, it is not acceptable because it puts too much on the consideration of the examiner. so, let there be a technology-based solution to the problem. warm greetings, Anirban Mukherjee On 5/30/14, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I thought blind students could take exams independently now? Get rid of writers during exams. We need more independence. Oral exams are tricky because there is no easy way to record answers and review them in case of a dispute. Yes I know, you could use digital recorders like they do when you trade in stock over the phone but that is a different kettle of fish. Pranav Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Ajay Minocha Mob : +91-9584076767 E mail : ajayminoc...@gmail.com p13aj...@iimidr.ac.in Skype: ajayminocha2 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo
Re: [AI] How do you respond? Show leniency to visually impaired students, allow oral exams
So here is members are of one opinion that is, technology holds the key. I also think technology certainly unlocks many restrictions, but I'm equally concerned about dearth of technology literacy among blind people in particular who prefer to speak and write in Hindi and in other regional languages. Further, to run technological tools one needs electricity round the clock, and according to one figure given by BBC Hindi last week, 40 Crores Indians have never seen electricity in their homes. Situation is very complex, you know. NGOs who impart computer training are only catering to urban-based tranees and they are least concerned about huge aspiring talented boys and girls reside in the countryside who if given proper training can develop softwares which can turn the table for India in the screen-reading softwares market. Now who will take the innitiative? I have a suggestion for NGOs working in the field of providing better technology to blind people in India. many big corporates and other companies are mandated to spend 2 per cent of their net worth on Corporate Social Responsibility. Why not these NGOs prepare a proposal with an objective to reach to those who are not in Metros? many research indicate CSR is going to be spent on education for empowering less-privileged sections hugely... So dig in your heel and cash in this opportunity which UPA has given us in its legacy... On 5/30/14, Dr.B.S.M.Kumar drbsmku...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I fully agree with Ajay. We have to emphasize on the use of technology and taking exam on computers. Regards, Dr.B.S.M.Kumar Handset +919840139849 On 5/30/14, Rajagopal N gopalrajain...@gmail.com wrote: Use technology to -original message- Subject: Re: [AI] How do you respond? Show leniency to visually impaired students, allow oral exams From: Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com Date: 30-05-2014 10:19 am Hello, According to me, oral exams are not the way to go forward. And yes, the word leniency is totally unacceptable to me. You can't develop yourself in a skill based subject like science/ finance/ maths if you are dealt with leniency. We should stress on reasonable accommodations i.e. talking calculators, tools to describe graphs/ accessible equation editors but not leniency at all. P.s: didn't want to hurt anybody, sharing my own opinion from my past experiences. Thanks, Ajay On 5/30/14, Anirban Mukherjee sparsha.anir...@gmail.com wrote: i do think that we have to think beyond writers in any case because it puts too much stake on the performance of the writer, besides, there are myriad different guidelines as to who should be the amanuensis and so on. as far as oral examination is concerned, it is not acceptable because it puts too much on the consideration of the examiner. so, let there be a technology-based solution to the problem. warm greetings, Anirban Mukherjee On 5/30/14, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I thought blind students could take exams independently now? Get rid of writers during exams. We need more independence. Oral exams are tricky because there is no easy way to record answers and review them in case of a dispute. Yes I know, you could use digital recorders like they do when you trade in stock over the phone but that is a different kettle of fish. Pranav Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission
Re: [AI] How do you respond? Show leniency to visually impaired students, allow oral exams
Hi, I thought blind students could take exams independently now? Get rid of writers during exams. We need more independence. Oral exams are tricky because there is no easy way to record answers and review them in case of a dispute. Yes I know, you could use digital recorders like they do when you trade in stock over the phone but that is a different kettle of fish. Pranav Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] How do you respond? Show leniency to visually impaired students, allow oral exams
i do think that we have to think beyond writers in any case because it puts too much stake on the performance of the writer, besides, there are myriad different guidelines as to who should be the amanuensis and so on. as far as oral examination is concerned, it is not acceptable because it puts too much on the consideration of the examiner. so, let there be a technology-based solution to the problem. warm greetings, Anirban Mukherjee On 5/30/14, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I thought blind students could take exams independently now? Get rid of writers during exams. We need more independence. Oral exams are tricky because there is no easy way to record answers and review them in case of a dispute. Yes I know, you could use digital recorders like they do when you trade in stock over the phone but that is a different kettle of fish. Pranav Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] How do you respond? Show leniency to visually impaired students, allow oral exams
Hello, According to me, oral exams are not the way to go forward. And yes, the word leniency is totally unacceptable to me. You can't develop yourself in a skill based subject like science/ finance/ maths if you are dealt with leniency. We should stress on reasonable accommodations i.e. talking calculators, tools to describe graphs/ accessible equation editors but not leniency at all. P.s: didn't want to hurt anybody, sharing my own opinion from my past experiences. Thanks, Ajay On 5/30/14, Anirban Mukherjee sparsha.anir...@gmail.com wrote: i do think that we have to think beyond writers in any case because it puts too much stake on the performance of the writer, besides, there are myriad different guidelines as to who should be the amanuensis and so on. as far as oral examination is concerned, it is not acceptable because it puts too much on the consideration of the examiner. so, let there be a technology-based solution to the problem. warm greetings, Anirban Mukherjee On 5/30/14, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I thought blind students could take exams independently now? Get rid of writers during exams. We need more independence. Oral exams are tricky because there is no easy way to record answers and review them in case of a dispute. Yes I know, you could use digital recorders like they do when you trade in stock over the phone but that is a different kettle of fish. Pranav Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Ajay Minocha Mob : +91-9584076767 E mail : ajayminoc...@gmail.com p13aj...@iimidr.ac.in Skype: ajayminocha2 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] How do you respond? Show leniency to visually impaired students, allow oral exams
Completely agree with Ajay. And yes, using technology is the way to go forward as already suggested by several members. On 5/29/14, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, According to me, oral exams are not the way to go forward. And yes, the word leniency is totally unacceptable to me. You can't develop yourself in a skill based subject like science/ finance/ maths if you are dealt with leniency. We should stress on reasonable accommodations i.e. talking calculators, tools to describe graphs/ accessible equation editors but not leniency at all. P.s: didn't want to hurt anybody, sharing my own opinion from my past experiences. Thanks, Ajay On 5/30/14, Anirban Mukherjee sparsha.anir...@gmail.com wrote: i do think that we have to think beyond writers in any case because it puts too much stake on the performance of the writer, besides, there are myriad different guidelines as to who should be the amanuensis and so on. as far as oral examination is concerned, it is not acceptable because it puts too much on the consideration of the examiner. so, let there be a technology-based solution to the problem. warm greetings, Anirban Mukherjee On 5/30/14, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I thought blind students could take exams independently now? Get rid of writers during exams. We need more independence. Oral exams are tricky because there is no easy way to record answers and review them in case of a dispute. Yes I know, you could use digital recorders like they do when you trade in stock over the phone but that is a different kettle of fish. Pranav Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Ajay Minocha Mob : +91-9584076767 E mail : ajayminoc...@gmail.com p13aj...@iimidr.ac.in Skype: ajayminocha2 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com, karti...@stanford.edu Skype: kartik.sawhney22 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at
