Re: [AI] NVDA better again
Hello every one. I have a experience with NVDA. NVDA works on google chrome nicely than jaws. In this link https://www.dropbox.com/s/6evirey0mvc27lw/Indian%20economy%20by%20prityogita%20darpan.kes?dl=0 I was unable to download this file with jaws. But with the help of NVDA is has been done. On 04/05/2015, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Harish Sir, Ok... Rohit Sir, True. Bandi, According to my understanding, CAB Spequalizer are screen readers designed for operating systems obsolete now, dominant in the 20th century. Thanks. On 5/4/15, Bandi Sudhakar sudakarbandi...@gmail.com wrote: iam very curious to know On 5/4/15, Bandi Sudhakar sudakarbandi...@gmail.com wrote: hi all nice to see the comparisons and analysis on screen readers can someone throw light oncab and speakalizer On 5/4/15, Rohit Trivedi rohi...@msn.com wrote: The biggest complaint its its cost. \Making it unaffordable for every one. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Hozefa Tambawala Sent: 01 May 2015 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again I agree that NVDA is playing a vital role by providing more or less same functionality compared to JAWS. But we should not forget that JAWS is the first screen reader which enabled the visually challenged to operate computer. If you have any complaints for JAWS regarding its functionality, you can write to Freedom Scientific tech support instead of complaining here. On 5/1/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned with what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these with asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and concerned about the needs of the visually impaired. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS. On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field. another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that insert+ctro+no option is available in nvda. On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Guffran, Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could elaborate/ellucidate. For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one to receive official announcements. Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project, Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on demand. Thanks. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA. Thank you! Lissy Verghese On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA
Re: [AI] NVDA better again
hi all nice to see the comparisons and analysis on screen readers can someone throw light oncab and speakalizer On 5/4/15, Rohit Trivedi rohi...@msn.com wrote: The biggest complaint its its cost. \Making it unaffordable for every one. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Hozefa Tambawala Sent: 01 May 2015 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again I agree that NVDA is playing a vital role by providing more or less same functionality compared to JAWS. But we should not forget that JAWS is the first screen reader which enabled the visually challenged to operate computer. If you have any complaints for JAWS regarding its functionality, you can write to Freedom Scientific tech support instead of complaining here. On 5/1/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned with what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these with asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and concerned about the needs of the visually impaired. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS. On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field. another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that insert+ctro+no option is available in nvda. On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Guffran, Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could elaborate/ellucidate. For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one to receive official announcements. Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project, Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on demand. Thanks. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA. Thank you! Lissy Verghese On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source accessibility related projects! Ekinath Sir, Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by someone in this thread itself, I believe. Thanks. On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi
Re: [AI] NVDA better again
iam very curious to know On 5/4/15, Bandi Sudhakar sudakarbandi...@gmail.com wrote: hi all nice to see the comparisons and analysis on screen readers can someone throw light oncab and speakalizer On 5/4/15, Rohit Trivedi rohi...@msn.com wrote: The biggest complaint its its cost. \Making it unaffordable for every one. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Hozefa Tambawala Sent: 01 May 2015 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again I agree that NVDA is playing a vital role by providing more or less same functionality compared to JAWS. But we should not forget that JAWS is the first screen reader which enabled the visually challenged to operate computer. If you have any complaints for JAWS regarding its functionality, you can write to Freedom Scientific tech support instead of complaining here. On 5/1/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned with what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these with asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and concerned about the needs of the visually impaired. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS. On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field. another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that insert+ctro+no option is available in nvda. On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Guffran, Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could elaborate/ellucidate. For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one to receive official announcements. Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project, Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on demand. Thanks. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA. Thank you! Lissy Verghese On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source accessibility related projects! Ekinath Sir, Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by someone
Re: [AI] NVDA better again
Hi, Harish Sir, Ok... Rohit Sir, True. Bandi, According to my understanding, CAB Spequalizer are screen readers designed for operating systems obsolete now, dominant in the 20th century. Thanks. On 5/4/15, Bandi Sudhakar sudakarbandi...@gmail.com wrote: iam very curious to know On 5/4/15, Bandi Sudhakar sudakarbandi...@gmail.com wrote: hi all nice to see the comparisons and analysis on screen readers can someone throw light oncab and speakalizer On 5/4/15, Rohit Trivedi rohi...@msn.com wrote: The biggest complaint its its cost. \Making it unaffordable for every one. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Hozefa Tambawala Sent: 01 May 2015 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again I agree that NVDA is playing a vital role by providing more or less same functionality compared to JAWS. But we should not forget that JAWS is the first screen reader which enabled the visually challenged to operate computer. If you have any complaints for JAWS regarding its functionality, you can write to Freedom Scientific tech support instead of complaining here. On 5/1/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned with what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these with asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and concerned about the needs of the visually impaired. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS. On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field. another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that insert+ctro+no option is available in nvda. On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Guffran, Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could elaborate/ellucidate. For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one to receive official announcements. Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project, Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on demand. Thanks. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA. Thank you! Lissy Verghese On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source
Re: [AI] NVDA better again
The biggest complaint its its cost. \Making it unaffordable for every one. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Hozefa Tambawala Sent: 01 May 2015 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again I agree that NVDA is playing a vital role by providing more or less same functionality compared to JAWS. But we should not forget that JAWS is the first screen reader which enabled the visually challenged to operate computer. If you have any complaints for JAWS regarding its functionality, you can write to Freedom Scientific tech support instead of complaining here. On 5/1/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned with what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these with asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and concerned about the needs of the visually impaired. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS. On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field. another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that insert+ctro+no option is available in nvda. On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Guffran, Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could elaborate/ellucidate. For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one to receive official announcements. Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project, Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on demand. Thanks. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA. Thank you! Lissy Verghese On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source accessibility related projects! Ekinath Sir, Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by someone in this thread itself, I believe. Thanks. On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, See http://www.saksham.org/help.php They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to specify the purpose for said donation. -Original
Re: [AI] NVDA better again
According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS. On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field. another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that no option is available in nvda. On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Guffran, Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could elaborate/ellucidate. For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one to receive official announcements. Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project, Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on demand. Thanks. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA. Thank you! Lissy Verghese On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source accessibility related projects! Ekinath Sir, Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by someone in this thread itself, I believe. Thanks. On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, See http://www.saksham.org/help.php They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to specify the purpose for said donation. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashik Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay whatever I can, but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the credit card. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA
Re: [AI] NVDA better again
hi, Let us be clear. 1. NVDA is a screen reader is by VI person for VI person. 2. Jaws is a commercial product. Hence, NVDA is like a food cooked in kitchen by the mum. It may be not so tasty or salty in some cases. But one should not complain the cook mum, instead try to assist her. Jaws is a like a food of a restaurant. If so not tasty, one must complain because he/she has to pay for it. If cracked jaws is used, that is a type of theft. One should not compare the stolen food of a restaurant and the cooked at home. No One should understand that contribute means only involvement in the development By pointing the weakness, asking new features, etc. any VI person can contribute nvdA. Some Difference between nvda and jaws is understandable. Each item has its own uniqueness. You feel a difference in shirt and t-shirt or in a coat and a sweeter. However, their functionality is the same. Please do not compare in terms of this key stroke or that. Visualize the performance, functionality and users' friendliness. These are the key points of evaluation. On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field. another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that no option is available in nvda. On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Guffran, Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could elaborate/ellucidate. For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one to receive official announcements. Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project, Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on demand. Thanks. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA. Thank you! Lissy Verghese On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source accessibility related projects! Ekinath Sir, Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by someone in this thread itself, I believe. Thanks. On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, See http://www.saksham.org/help.php They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to specify the purpose for said donation. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashik Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay whatever I
Re: [AI] NVDA better again
Hi Ekinath, At work, I am currently fully dependent on NVDA. I am amused to see that NVDA has improved a lot and I feel no need of Jaws further. NVDA is working in all applications for me and i am facing no challenge at all. Thanks to NVDA On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field. another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that no option is available in nvda. On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Guffran, Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could elaborate/ellucidate. For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one to receive official announcements. Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project, Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on demand. Thanks. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA. Thank you! Lissy Verghese On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source accessibility related projects! Ekinath Sir, Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by someone in this thread itself, I believe. Thanks. On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, See http://www.saksham.org/help.php They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to specify the purpose for said donation. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashik Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay whatever I can, but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the credit card. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything
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Let us not dispute over which application is better. Everybody has a choice and we should respect it. If one wishes to work with NVDA it is very good. And if one wishes to continue with Jaws, there is no harm. It is the matter of priorities and preferences. Anything which comes free, depends upon the volunteers who develop it. So we cannot fix things in NVDA as quickly as in Jaws. Jaws has a cost involved into it. Those, who can bare with the cost, or can get the alternative crack versions, would continue with it. No doubt, it has many functionalities which NVDA is yet to develop. But for those, who cannot spend money and also are against cracks, would adopt NVDA, as it has immense possibilities in the years to come. Exciting Offers to Grab Vedprakash Sharma -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashik Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 1:32 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned with what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these with asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and concerned about the needs of the visually impaired. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS. On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field. another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that insert+ctro+no option is available in nvda. On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Guffran, Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could elaborate/ellucidate. For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one to receive official announcements. Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project, Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on demand. Thanks. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA. Thank you! Lissy Verghese On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source accessibility related projects! Ekinath Sir, Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by someone
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I agree that NVDA is playing a vital role by providing more or less same functionality compared to JAWS. But we should not forget that JAWS is the first screen reader which enabled the visually challenged to operate computer. If you have any complaints for JAWS regarding its functionality, you can write to Freedom Scientific tech support instead of complaining here. On 5/1/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned with what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these with asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and concerned about the needs of the visually impaired. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS. On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field. another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that no option is available in nvda. On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Guffran, Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could elaborate/ellucidate. For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one to receive official announcements. Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project, Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on demand. Thanks. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA. Thank you! Lissy Verghese On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source accessibility related projects! Ekinath Sir, Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by someone in this thread itself, I believe. Thanks. On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, See http://www.saksham.org/help.php They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to specify the purpose for said donation. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashik Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay whatever I can, but there is the credit card issue. I
Re: [AI] NVDA better again
No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned with what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these with asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and concerned about the needs of the visually impaired. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS. On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field. another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that no option is available in nvda. On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Guffran, Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could elaborate/ellucidate. For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one to receive official announcements. Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project, Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on demand. Thanks. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA. Thank you! Lissy Verghese On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source accessibility related projects! Ekinath Sir, Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by someone in this thread itself, I believe. Thanks. On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, See http://www.saksham.org/help.php They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to specify the purpose for said donation. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashik Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay whatever I can, but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the credit card. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts
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Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA. Thank you! Lissy Verghese On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source accessibility related projects! Ekinath Sir, Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by someone in this thread itself, I believe. Thanks. On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, See http://www.saksham.org/help.php They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to specify the purpose for said donation. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashik Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay whatever I can, but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the credit card. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be convinced. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
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I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA. Thank you! Lissy Verghese On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source accessibility related projects! Ekinath Sir, Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by someone in this thread itself, I believe. Thanks. On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, See http://www.saksham.org/help.php They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to specify the purpose for said donation. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashik Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay whatever I can, but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the credit card. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be convinced. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_a ccessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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Hi, Guffran, Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could elaborate/ellucidate. For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one to receive official announcements. Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project, Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on demand. Thanks. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA. Thank you! Lissy Verghese On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source accessibility related projects! Ekinath Sir, Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by someone in this thread itself, I believe. Thanks. On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, See http://www.saksham.org/help.php They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to specify the purpose for said donation. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashik Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay whatever I can, but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the credit card. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be convinced. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up
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@Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field. another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that no option is available in nvda. On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Guffran, Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could elaborate/ellucidate. For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one to receive official announcements. Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project, Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on demand. Thanks. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS. On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA. Thank you! Lissy Verghese On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote: only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source accessibility related projects! Ekinath Sir, Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by someone in this thread itself, I believe. Thanks. On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, See http://www.saksham.org/help.php They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to specify the purpose for said donation. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashik Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay whatever I can, but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the credit card. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time
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only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result. but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead. On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source accessibility related projects! Ekinath Sir, Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by someone in this thread itself, I believe. Thanks. On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, See http://www.saksham.org/help.php They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to specify the purpose for said donation. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashik Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay whatever I can, but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the credit card. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be convinced. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_a ccessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.o rg.in
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Hi, NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am impressed with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base. A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, transitioned myself. The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself. I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available and whose crack is widely distributed. I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable to work with. Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open source accessibility related projects! Ekinath Sir, Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by someone in this thread itself, I believe. Thanks. On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Hi, See http://www.saksham.org/help.php They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to specify the purpose for said donation. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashik Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay whatever I can, but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the credit card. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be convinced. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_a ccessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.o rg.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
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Hi, See http://www.saksham.org/help.php They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to specify the purpose for said donation. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashik Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay whatever I can, but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the credit card. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be convinced. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_a ccessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.o rg.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_ac cessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.or g.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http
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Rs. 2700 I believe but i...@saksham.org should be able to help. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashik Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:13 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again How much is Eloquence from Saksham? - Original Message - From: Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again snip I think its the TTS issue which makes people remain with Jaws. PL] You can get eloquence from Saksham for a small fee. Pranav Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc essindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org .in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.o rg.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be convinced. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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Is it possible for any developer to test accessibility with each and every screen reader? At the most, we can ask for compliance with w3c guidelines. And its up to the screen readers to be able to do their job once these guidelines are complied with. Just to boost up NVDA further, employees of a few Indian banks have reported NVDA has better accessibility with internal applications(most of them being web pages) when compared to Jaws. I think its the TTS issue which makes people remain with Jaws. On 4/22/15, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be convinced. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest
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Dear Friends, I too agree NVDA can be the best solution and alternative to JAWS however NVDA has not been tested with business Application like SAP which ultimately forces me to rely on JAWS because JAWS has support to SAP, I would like to make a request to the NVDA Developers to check the accessibility of these Business Application is there way to reach them? I also want to know did any of you use Fin-one if yes please let me know the accessibility part of this Business Application. Warm Regards, Tilak. On 4/22/15, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible for any developer to test accessibility with each and every screen reader? At the most, we can ask for compliance with w3c guidelines. And its up to the screen readers to be able to do their job once these guidelines are complied with. Just to boost up NVDA further, employees of a few Indian banks have reported NVDA has better accessibility with internal applications(most of them being web pages) when compared to Jaws. I think its the TTS issue which makes people remain with Jaws. On 4/22/15, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be convinced. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will
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hi, In my opinion it is not the issue of TTS for stickiness to Jaws. In reality the issue is just opposite. Due to Espeak TTS, many person prefer to NVDA. The key reason of use of jaws is the freely availability of the cracks! Otherwise, a license version is beyond the scope of many VI persons. Being an open source, nvda has provided many flexibilities. On 4/22/15, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible for any developer to test accessibility with each and every screen reader? At the most, we can ask for compliance with w3c guidelines. And its up to the screen readers to be able to do their job once these guidelines are complied with. Just to boost up NVDA further, employees of a few Indian banks have reported NVDA has better accessibility with internal applications(most of them being web pages) when compared to Jaws. I think its the TTS issue which makes people remain with Jaws. On 4/22/15, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be convinced. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE.
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Hi Ekinath, Could you elaborate on the issues you have with NVDA? I believe we did discuss your Excel problem on this list. What other settings? I use both jaws and NVDA but am gravitating towards NVDA. Pranav Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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snip I think its the TTS issue which makes people remain with Jaws. PL] You can get eloquence from Saksham for a small fee. Pranav Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay whatever I can, but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the credit card. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be convinced. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect
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How much is Eloquence from Saksham? - Original Message - From: Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again snip I think its the TTS issue which makes people remain with Jaws. PL] You can get eloquence from Saksham for a small fee. Pranav Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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I understand! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal Sent: 23 April 2015 05:50 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again George, There are two parts to the problem. Yes, websites should be accessible with all screen readers. However, many people forget is that screen readers follow a development curve like any other product. Some of them have been tardy when adapting to modern web standards. Pranav Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessin dia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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Yes, the TTS issue is there. But, I have heard that ETI Eloquence is not so costly and can be purchased from Saksham, New Delhi. I heard that it is just around 3,000 rupees. - Original Message - From: Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Is it possible for any developer to test accessibility with each and every screen reader? At the most, we can ask for compliance with w3c guidelines. And its up to the screen readers to be able to do their job once these guidelines are complied with. Just to boost up NVDA further, employees of a few Indian banks have reported NVDA has better accessibility with internal applications(most of them being web pages) when compared to Jaws. I think its the TTS issue which makes people remain with Jaws. On 4/22/15, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be convinced. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
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Hi Tilak, Please raise a ticket at http://community.nvda-project.org/wiki/Issues Pranav -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Tilakprasad Joshi Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:19 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again Dear Friends, I too agree NVDA can be the best solution and alternative to JAWS however NVDA has not been tested with business Application like SAP which ultimately forces me to rely on JAWS because JAWS has support to SAP, I would like to make a request to the NVDA Developers to check the accessibility of these Business Application is there way to reach them? I also want to know did any of you use Fin-one if yes please let me know the accessibility part of this Business Application. Warm Regards, Tilak. On 4/22/15, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible for any developer to test accessibility with each and every screen reader? At the most, we can ask for compliance with w3c guidelines. And its up to the screen readers to be able to do their job once these guidelines are complied with. Just to boost up NVDA further, employees of a few Indian banks have reported NVDA has better accessibility with internal applications(most of them being web pages) when compared to Jaws. I think its the TTS issue which makes people remain with Jaws. On 4/22/15, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be convinced. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_ accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia. org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_a ccessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.o rg.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual
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Yes, sir. Espeak has support for Hindi and Gujarati for me. It's all in one package in a comparatively much smaller size. - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again hi, In my opinion it is not the issue of TTS for stickiness to Jaws. In reality the issue is just opposite. Due to Espeak TTS, many person prefer to NVDA. The key reason of use of jaws is the freely availability of the cracks! Otherwise, a license version is beyond the scope of many VI persons. Being an open source, nvda has provided many flexibilities. On 4/22/15, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible for any developer to test accessibility with each and every screen reader? At the most, we can ask for compliance with w3c guidelines. And its up to the screen readers to be able to do their job once these guidelines are complied with. Just to boost up NVDA further, employees of a few Indian banks have reported NVDA has better accessibility with internal applications(most of them being web pages) when compared to Jaws. I think its the TTS issue which makes people remain with Jaws. On 4/22/15, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ashik, People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth. It's all about getting comfortable. I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me with it. There is also a tts issue. I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel, though it is great online. But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can be seen. I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them anything much. But it would boost their confidence. Cheers NVDA On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be convinced. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list
Re: [AI] NVDA better again
George, There are two parts to the problem. Yes, websites should be accessible with all screen readers. However, many people forget is that screen readers follow a development curve like any other product. Some of them have been tardy when adapting to modern web standards. Pranav Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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George sir, every day new invention is happening in internet world NVDA come its new version in every three months, but JAWS come with developed version once in one or even two years, I am using NVDA in my office computers because they did not purchase me legal version of JAWS did not allowed me to install crack version of JAWS but now I am well settled with NVDA now I not even dream of JAWS my main work in my office is to check office mails reply them immediately NVDA does this work very comfortably for me. On 4/23/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote: I understand! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal Sent: 23 April 2015 05:50 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again George, There are two parts to the problem. Yes, websites should be accessible with all screen readers. However, many people forget is that screen readers follow a development curve like any other product. Some of them have been tardy when adapting to modern web standards. Pranav Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessin dia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- vivekananda Ph-9868954833, skype: vivekkavya, FB: vivek doddamani. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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Agreed! NVDA is definitely the way to go! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of vivek doddamani Sent: 23 April 2015 09:59 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again George sir, every day new invention is happening in internet world NVDA come its new version in every three months, but JAWS come with developed version once in one or even two years, I am using NVDA in my office computers because they did not purchase me legal version of JAWS did not allowed me to install crack version of JAWS but now I am well settled with NVDA now I not even dream of JAWS my main work in my office is to check office mails reply them immediately NVDA does this work very comfortably for me. On 4/23/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote: I understand! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal Sent: 23 April 2015 05:50 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again George, There are two parts to the problem. Yes, websites should be accessible with all screen readers. However, many people forget is that screen readers follow a development curve like any other product. Some of them have been tardy when adapting to modern web standards. Pranav Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessin dia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessin dia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- vivekananda Ph-9868954833, skype: vivekkavya, FB: vivek doddamani. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessin dia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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Why would any VI say ‘no’ to it sir. But I can’t see screen readers specially JAWS is moving along with new operating systems and web technologies. If NVDA can do a certain job, JAWS must do it too, as it is a paid software. And not just me, but VI acquaintances have been saying that JAWS is becoming worse. Instead of providing more accessibility, they feel more let down by JAWS now days. And it is surprising to see free packages like NVDA providing solutions for it. Earlier, i used to feel JAWS having resources at hand can’t do something then no screen reader would be able to do it, but freewares are giving very good competition. I would pull back my investments from Freedom Scientific if I had any) I take pain to write these things while at work, because I feel frustrated getting stuck in work due to JAWS issues and I know as more and more people will use NVDA it will keep getting better. MS has played its own part to make things worse for us. I used to find computers more accessible earlier than today. Really!! Regards Sir, Ekinath On 4/22/15, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been using NVDA since then. I have been advocating for NVDA, but, you know, it is hard to change the mindset. People take too much time to be convinced. - Original Message - From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:08 PM Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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While perhaps what you say is true. Websites should be accessible with all screen readers don't you think? -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ekinath Khedekar Sent: 22 April 2015 14:08 To: accessindia Subject: [AI] NVDA better again Hi Friends, Few friends did tell me that NVDA is better on web accessibility. However, I experienced it today. JAWS was not reading a clickable region below retail option on www.yesbank.in It led me to take up the matter with Yes Bank IT department, but as it turned out to be, NVDA worked and due to JAWS inability I was quarrelling with the Yes bank. NVDA was also helpful when JAWS was not reading any calendar dates earlier. Why one should pay so much for JAWS when a freeware can do a better job. I only wish that NVDA was as smooth JAWS after installation or at least ideal settings were shared with the users. -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessin dia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
