Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.
you are right sir, the matter difers from person to person. you can not blame the entire organisation. even some times we denied check books to our sighted customers. it is also be treated case in particular not in general. being a bank employee, once at the time of disbursement of my vehicle loan, i am to put my thumb impration on the format meant for illitirate depositor. i satisfied the ego of that manager and my loan was disbursed within a moment. the problem is to be solved practically. you can not apply law each and every time. thanks. - Original Message - From: Dr. Homiyar Mobedji dr.homi...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. My personal experience has been very good with the same Bank. My branch is in Gandhinagar, Gujarat. They have issued me everything including cheque book, ATM card, net banking and mobile banking. Regards, Dr. Homiyar -- From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:50 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. Harishji. even though the RBI has made things clear, the bank officials are looking for any possible loophole. when I applied for a check ook, I had given them the RBI circular. however I was initialy told that a person using a thumb impression can't be issued a checkbook. it was after a lot of argument and struggle, and an intervention from the principal of my college that the PNB idiots finally gave way. it is important we take it up on larger platforms, including the media. in the case brought out through this particular thread, I'ave talked to some friends in the media already, and I would like to get some more details on the issue. best, On 5/24/10, harish har...@accessindia.org.in wrote: Hi RBI through its circular on the matter clearly in no unambiguous terms has recognized the legal capacity of blind persons. Despite that, If the person concerned fails to understand then, I can see only 2 cinereous. 1 He blatantly wants to flout the guidelines of the central bank. 2 He is of unsound mind incapable of comprehension. In either case, he is causing public harm and should be dealt accordingly. Harish Kotian. - Original Message - From: Suhas Karnik suhasvkar...@hotmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:08 PM Subject: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents. The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules for such matters. NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf. Regards. Suhas Karnik. _ South Cinema This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinemathisdecade/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Mahesh S. Panicker C123; Dayanand Colony; Lajpat Nagar4; New delhi india. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.
yes, i have already stated for agitation. - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. Yes, I admit RBI instructions have a symbolic value largely. Even if they are blatantly flouted, there is hardly anything central bank of the country does, more so for an instruction targeted at marginalized group like VI. So, it is high time we switch into agitation mode. We can, for now, try to have many provisions incorporated into new law. That also is not going to solve all problems, for any law just lays down the outline at best, detail modalities again fall upon internal regulations, which if not in conformity with statute have to be quashed down by courts of law. So, it is a vicious circle, you know. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mahesh Panicker Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:50 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. Harishji. even though the RBI has made things clear, the bank officials are looking for any possible loophole. when I applied for a check ook, I had given them the RBI circular. however I was initialy told that a person using a thumb impression can't be issued a checkbook. it was after a lot of argument and struggle, and an intervention from the principal of my college that the PNB idiots finally gave way. it is important we take it up on larger platforms, including the media. in the case brought out through this particular thread, I'ave talked to some friends in the media already, and I would like to get some more details on the issue. best, On 5/24/10, harish har...@accessindia.org.in wrote: Hi RBI through its circular on the matter clearly in no unambiguous terms has recognized the legal capacity of blind persons. Despite that, If the person concerned fails to understand then, I can see only 2 cinereous. 1 He blatantly wants to flout the guidelines of the central bank. 2 He is of unsound mind incapable of comprehension. In either case, he is causing public harm and should be dealt accordingly. Harish Kotian. - Original Message - From: Suhas Karnik suhasvkar...@hotmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:08 PM Subject: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents. The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules for such matters. NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf. Regards. Suhas Karnik. _ South Cinema This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinemathisdecade/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Mahesh S. Panicker C123; Dayanand Colony; Lajpat Nagar4; New delhi india. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or
Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.
what is your 16 digit account number, why the check book is required to you? being a banker it is my duty to ask such questions to my customers. even we ask such questions to our sighted and reputed customers. - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. would RTI be of some help? the PNB people, when my check book struggle was going on, often talked about their guideline. when I'd asked access to it, they didn't give me any clear answer. since we have a few among our ranks working in the banking sector, may be we can get a better idea on this. do the banks, and particularly the PNB have got a guideline on dealing with the disabled customer? is it available in the public domine? if not, can we access using RTI? On 5/24/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Yes, I admit RBI instructions have a symbolic value largely. Even if they are blatantly flouted, there is hardly anything central bank of the country does, more so for an instruction targeted at marginalized group like VI. So, it is high time we switch into agitation mode. We can, for now, try to have many provisions incorporated into new law. That also is not going to solve all problems, for any law just lays down the outline at best, detail modalities again fall upon internal regulations, which if not in conformity with statute have to be quashed down by courts of law. So, it is a vicious circle, you know. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mahesh Panicker Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:50 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. Harishji. even though the RBI has made things clear, the bank officials are looking for any possible loophole. when I applied for a check ook, I had given them the RBI circular. however I was initialy told that a person using a thumb impression can't be issued a checkbook. it was after a lot of argument and struggle, and an intervention from the principal of my college that the PNB idiots finally gave way. it is important we take it up on larger platforms, including the media. in the case brought out through this particular thread, I'ave talked to some friends in the media already, and I would like to get some more details on the issue. best, On 5/24/10, harish har...@accessindia.org.in wrote: Hi RBI through its circular on the matter clearly in no unambiguous terms has recognized the legal capacity of blind persons. Despite that, If the person concerned fails to understand then, I can see only 2 cinereous. 1 He blatantly wants to flout the guidelines of the central bank. 2 He is of unsound mind incapable of comprehension. In either case, he is causing public harm and should be dealt accordingly. Harish Kotian. - Original Message - From: Suhas Karnik suhasvkar...@hotmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:08 PM Subject: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents. The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules for such matters. NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf. Regards. Suhas Karnik. _ South Cinema This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinemathisdecade/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Mahesh S. Panicker C123; Dayanand Colony; Lajpat
Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.
It is our obligation to answer such questions, but why should questions be asked in issuing ATM crds? Could you explain what is the mindset of a banker when he deliberately blocks a facility that would make a persons' life easy? Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:29 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. what is your 16 digit account number, why the check book is required to you? being a banker it is my duty to ask such questions to my customers. even we ask such questions to our sighted and reputed customers. - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. would RTI be of some help? the PNB people, when my check book struggle was going on, often talked about their guideline. when I'd asked access to it, they didn't give me any clear answer. since we have a few among our ranks working in the banking sector, may be we can get a better idea on this. do the banks, and particularly the PNB have got a guideline on dealing with the disabled customer? is it available in the public domine? if not, can we access using RTI? On 5/24/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Yes, I admit RBI instructions have a symbolic value largely. Even if they are blatantly flouted, there is hardly anything central bank of the country does, more so for an instruction targeted at marginalized group like VI. So, it is high time we switch into agitation mode. We can, for now, try to have many provisions incorporated into new law. That also is not going to solve all problems, for any law just lays down the outline at best, detail modalities again fall upon internal regulations, which if not in conformity with statute have to be quashed down by courts of law. So, it is a vicious circle, you know. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mahesh Panicker Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:50 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. Harishji. even though the RBI has made things clear, the bank officials are looking for any possible loophole. when I applied for a check ook, I had given them the RBI circular. however I was initialy told that a person using a thumb impression can't be issued a checkbook. it was after a lot of argument and struggle, and an intervention from the principal of my college that the PNB idiots finally gave way. it is important we take it up on larger platforms, including the media. in the case brought out through this particular thread, I'ave talked to some friends in the media already, and I would like to get some more details on the issue. best, On 5/24/10, harish har...@accessindia.org.in wrote: Hi RBI through its circular on the matter clearly in no unambiguous terms has recognized the legal capacity of blind persons. Despite that, If the person concerned fails to understand then, I can see only 2 cinereous. 1 He blatantly wants to flout the guidelines of the central bank. 2 He is of unsound mind incapable of comprehension. In either case, he is causing public harm and should be dealt accordingly. Harish Kotian. - Original Message - From: Suhas Karnik suhasvkar...@hotmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:08 PM Subject: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents. The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules for such matters. NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf. Regards. Suhas Karnik. _ South Cinema This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinemathisdecade/ To
Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.
Hi RBI through its circular on the matter clearly in no unambiguous terms has recognized the legal capacity of blind persons. Despite that, If the person concerned fails to understand then, I can see only 2 cinereous. 1 He blatantly wants to flout the guidelines of the central bank. 2 He is of unsound mind incapable of comprehension. In either case, he is causing public harm and should be dealt accordingly. Harish Kotian. - Original Message - From: Suhas Karnik suhasvkar...@hotmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:08 PM Subject: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents. The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules for such matters. NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf. Regards. Suhas Karnik. _ South Cinema This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinemathisdecade/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.
Harishji. even though the RBI has made things clear, the bank officials are looking for any possible loophole. when I applied for a check ook, I had given them the RBI circular. however I was initialy told that a person using a thumb impression can't be issued a checkbook. it was after a lot of argument and struggle, and an intervention from the principal of my college that the PNB idiots finally gave way. it is important we take it up on larger platforms, including the media. in the case brought out through this particular thread, I'ave talked to some friends in the media already, and I would like to get some more details on the issue. best, On 5/24/10, harish har...@accessindia.org.in wrote: Hi RBI through its circular on the matter clearly in no unambiguous terms has recognized the legal capacity of blind persons. Despite that, If the person concerned fails to understand then, I can see only 2 cinereous. 1 He blatantly wants to flout the guidelines of the central bank. 2 He is of unsound mind incapable of comprehension. In either case, he is causing public harm and should be dealt accordingly. Harish Kotian. - Original Message - From: Suhas Karnik suhasvkar...@hotmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:08 PM Subject: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents. The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules for such matters. NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf. Regards. Suhas Karnik. _ South Cinema This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinemathisdecade/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Mahesh S. Panicker C123; Dayanand Colony; Lajpat Nagar4; New delhi india. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.
My personal experience has been very good with the same Bank. My branch is in Gandhinagar, Gujarat. They have issued me everything including cheque book, ATM card, net banking and mobile banking. Regards, Dr. Homiyar -- From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:50 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. Harishji. even though the RBI has made things clear, the bank officials are looking for any possible loophole. when I applied for a check ook, I had given them the RBI circular. however I was initialy told that a person using a thumb impression can't be issued a checkbook. it was after a lot of argument and struggle, and an intervention from the principal of my college that the PNB idiots finally gave way. it is important we take it up on larger platforms, including the media. in the case brought out through this particular thread, I'ave talked to some friends in the media already, and I would like to get some more details on the issue. best, On 5/24/10, harish har...@accessindia.org.in wrote: Hi RBI through its circular on the matter clearly in no unambiguous terms has recognized the legal capacity of blind persons. Despite that, If the person concerned fails to understand then, I can see only 2 cinereous. 1 He blatantly wants to flout the guidelines of the central bank. 2 He is of unsound mind incapable of comprehension. In either case, he is causing public harm and should be dealt accordingly. Harish Kotian. - Original Message - From: Suhas Karnik suhasvkar...@hotmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:08 PM Subject: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents. The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules for such matters. NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf. Regards. Suhas Karnik. _ South Cinema This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinemathisdecade/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Mahesh S. Panicker C123; Dayanand Colony; Lajpat Nagar4; New delhi india. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.
Yes, I admit RBI instructions have a symbolic value largely. Even if they are blatantly flouted, there is hardly anything central bank of the country does, more so for an instruction targeted at marginalized group like VI. So, it is high time we switch into agitation mode. We can, for now, try to have many provisions incorporated into new law. That also is not going to solve all problems, for any law just lays down the outline at best, detail modalities again fall upon internal regulations, which if not in conformity with statute have to be quashed down by courts of law. So, it is a vicious circle, you know. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mahesh Panicker Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:50 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. Harishji. even though the RBI has made things clear, the bank officials are looking for any possible loophole. when I applied for a check ook, I had given them the RBI circular. however I was initialy told that a person using a thumb impression can't be issued a checkbook. it was after a lot of argument and struggle, and an intervention from the principal of my college that the PNB idiots finally gave way. it is important we take it up on larger platforms, including the media. in the case brought out through this particular thread, I'ave talked to some friends in the media already, and I would like to get some more details on the issue. best, On 5/24/10, harish har...@accessindia.org.in wrote: Hi RBI through its circular on the matter clearly in no unambiguous terms has recognized the legal capacity of blind persons. Despite that, If the person concerned fails to understand then, I can see only 2 cinereous. 1 He blatantly wants to flout the guidelines of the central bank. 2 He is of unsound mind incapable of comprehension. In either case, he is causing public harm and should be dealt accordingly. Harish Kotian. - Original Message - From: Suhas Karnik suhasvkar...@hotmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:08 PM Subject: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents. The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules for such matters. NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf. Regards. Suhas Karnik. _ South Cinema This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinemathisdecade/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Mahesh S. Panicker C123; Dayanand Colony; Lajpat Nagar4; New delhi india. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus
Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.
would RTI be of some help? the PNB people, when my check book struggle was going on, often talked about their guideline. when I'd asked access to it, they didn't give me any clear answer. since we have a few among our ranks working in the banking sector, may be we can get a better idea on this. do the banks, and particularly the PNB have got a guideline on dealing with the disabled customer? is it available in the public domine? if not, can we access using RTI? On 5/24/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Yes, I admit RBI instructions have a symbolic value largely. Even if they are blatantly flouted, there is hardly anything central bank of the country does, more so for an instruction targeted at marginalized group like VI. So, it is high time we switch into agitation mode. We can, for now, try to have many provisions incorporated into new law. That also is not going to solve all problems, for any law just lays down the outline at best, detail modalities again fall upon internal regulations, which if not in conformity with statute have to be quashed down by courts of law. So, it is a vicious circle, you know. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mahesh Panicker Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:50 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. Harishji. even though the RBI has made things clear, the bank officials are looking for any possible loophole. when I applied for a check ook, I had given them the RBI circular. however I was initialy told that a person using a thumb impression can't be issued a checkbook. it was after a lot of argument and struggle, and an intervention from the principal of my college that the PNB idiots finally gave way. it is important we take it up on larger platforms, including the media. in the case brought out through this particular thread, I'ave talked to some friends in the media already, and I would like to get some more details on the issue. best, On 5/24/10, harish har...@accessindia.org.in wrote: Hi RBI through its circular on the matter clearly in no unambiguous terms has recognized the legal capacity of blind persons. Despite that, If the person concerned fails to understand then, I can see only 2 cinereous. 1 He blatantly wants to flout the guidelines of the central bank. 2 He is of unsound mind incapable of comprehension. In either case, he is causing public harm and should be dealt accordingly. Harish Kotian. - Original Message - From: Suhas Karnik suhasvkar...@hotmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:08 PM Subject: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents. The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules for such matters. NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf. Regards. Suhas Karnik. _ South Cinema This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinemathisdecade/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Mahesh S. Panicker C123; Dayanand Colony; Lajpat Nagar4; New delhi india. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted
Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.
is he under 18? if not why? very funny. At 04:38 PM 5/21/2010, you wrote: A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents. The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules for such matters. NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf. Regards. Suhas Karnik. _ South Cinema This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinemathisdecade/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in with warm regards Mahendra Galani window's live ID mahendragal...@hotmail.com skype ID chintu3886 phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055, address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe - To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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PNB has a horrible record in such matters, but this time around, they have really gone absolutely mad. I, after a lot of struggle, got my ATM card from PNB, although I had to give an undertaking owning up all responsibilities in case of misuse, there was no NOC from the parents. On 5/22/10, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote: is he under 18? if not why? very funny. At 04:38 PM 5/21/2010, you wrote: A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents. The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules for such matters. NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf. Regards. Suhas Karnik. _ South Cinema This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinemathisdecade/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in with warm regards Mahendra Galani window's live ID mahendragal...@hotmail.com skype ID chintu3886 phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055, address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe - To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Mahesh S. Panicker C123; Dayanand Colony; Lajpat Nagar4; New delhi india. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.
if you can provide some more details, we can try and take it up with the media. please sent the details to maheshspanic...@gmail.com regards On 5/22/10, Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote: PNB has a horrible record in such matters, but this time around, they have really gone absolutely mad. I, after a lot of struggle, got my ATM card from PNB, although I had to give an undertaking owning up all responsibilities in case of misuse, there was no NOC from the parents. On 5/22/10, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote: is he under 18? if not why? very funny. At 04:38 PM 5/21/2010, you wrote: A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents. The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules for such matters. NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf. Regards. Suhas Karnik. _ South Cinema This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinemathisdecade/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in with warm regards Mahendra Galani window's live ID mahendragal...@hotmail.com skype ID chintu3886 phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055, address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe - To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Mahesh S. Panicker C123; Dayanand Colony; Lajpat Nagar4; New delhi india. -- Mahesh S. Panicker C123; Dayanand Colony; Lajpat Nagar4; New delhi india. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.
The simple procedure should be to take a written note from the officials of any bank proving denial of such applications. And even if it is not possible, then the Bank's gbranch name, staff/officer name can be noted down. Further, the matter can be forwarded to the RBI's Ombudsmen cell. My experience suggests that they deal with such issue very seriously. On 5/21/10, Suhas Karnik suhasvkar...@hotmail.com wrote: A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents. The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules for such matters. NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf. Regards. Suhas Karnik. _ South Cinema This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinemathisdecade/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Thanks and regards Himanshu Sahu Reach: 09051055000 To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card.
no such internal rules are there. if so, you nab must demand it. - Original Message - From: Suhas Karnik suhasvkar...@hotmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:08 PM Subject: [AI] No objection certificate of parrents to obtain ATM card. A visually impaired person named Dhanaji Kadam approached Jogeshwary branch of punjab national bank to obtain ATM card. The bank officials asked him to furnished a no objection certificate from his parrents. The advocacy department of national association for the blind intervened in matter and tried to convinced the bank authorities to not to insist for such formality which is unwarranted. Inspite of drawing the attention towards RBIcircular the reply was that the bank has framed internal rules for such matters. NAB is trying to contact higher authorities in this behalf. Regards. Suhas Karnik. _ South Cinema This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinemathisdecade/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
