Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually impaired people identify rupee notes

2019-05-16 Thread pranayarani
Then RBI should give us  compatible for us to identify cash notes. When Rs
500 and Rs 1000 notes could be recalled for destruction during
demonetization, there is no reason as to why the new currency notes cannot
be recalled.  If RBI can foolishly come up with mobile solutions, the very
same  RBI doesn't accept our service requests, etc., via electronic means
and instead they ask us to fill up  forms in hardcopies.  Absolute
hypocrisy. Pranaya 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Sanchit Katiyar
Sent: 16 May, 2019 6:15 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually
impaired people identify rupee notes

Hi,

I think that there is no alternative rather than making the Indian
currencies themselves partially accessible to persons with blindness
by assigning different sizes to different currencies as was earlier
the case. This effort can be augmented by introducing hardware devices
and mobile based solutions.

But technological solutions alone would not be enough as it is very
difficult to use them in a crowded places.


On 5/16/19, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> how many blind persons use touch mobile phones? RBI have no study of it at
> all. even in cities we can not find good internet connectivity.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Amit Bhatt
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:23 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually
> impaired people identify rupee notes
>
> I also deem that RBI should work on introducing a dedicated device to
> identify Indian currencies. Some of the mobile appllications are already
> there but these apps are not that much of consistent.
>
> A dedicated hardware device may fulfill the requirement in offline mode
> without using internet. Morover, such device can be useful in much crowd
> area as marcket, railleway station and so on.
>
> A Mobile application cannot be used efficiently in a crowded vegetable
> marcket and many places where you don't have much time to identify the
> notes
> and where internet connectivity is always interupted.
> If not RBI, the Organizations bringing various assistive devices for the
> blind may do this work in consultation with Reserve Bank of India.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Amit Bhatt
>
> Moderator - SayEverything, an open discussion forum for persons with
> disabilities
> https://lists.sayeverything.org/mailman/listinfo/sayeverything
>
> Techpedia India, A Technical discussion Board in India
> https://lists.sayeverything.org/mailman/listinfo/techpediaindia
>
> www.sayeverything.org
>
> Head - Banking Wing, National Federation of the Blind
> www.nfbindia.org
>
> Ast Manager - United Bank of India
> www.unitedbankofindia.com
>
> Mob: +91-9560175887
>
> "A player that makes a team great is more valuable than a great player"
> - Original Message -
> From: "Prashant Ranjan Verma" 
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> the disabled.'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually
> impaired people identify rupee notes
>
>
>> The RBI has really created a mess with these new series of notes.
>> They must provide the hardware device similr to the one used in USA to
>> all
>> those who ask for it. Yes it may cost them quite a lot but they need to
>> be
>> punished for what they have done.
>> Mobile apps are already there, why are they wasting public money on it.
>>
>> Prashant Ranjan Verma
>> Accessibility Specialist, DAISY Consortium - www.daisy.org
>>
>> Certified Professional in Accessibility Core Competencies - CPACC
>> Individual Member, International Association of Accessibility
>> Professionals
>> (IAAP) - www.accessibilityassociation.org
>>
>> General Secretary, National Association for the Blind - www.nabdelhi.in
>> Chairman Sugamya Pustakalaya Committee - www.sugamyapustakalaya.in
>> Trustee, Saksham - www.saksham.org
>> Board Member, Abilympics - www.abilympicsindia.org
>> Founder - AccessAble - www.accessable.in
>>
>> Phone: +91 9811686966
>>
>> Creating the Best Way to Read and Publish - www.daisy.org
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia  On Behalf Of
>> Amiyo Biswas
>> Sent: 15 May 2019 17:34
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled. 
>>

Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually impaired people identify rupee notes

2019-05-16 Thread sampath raj rao
Hi, the best solution I suggest would lye in the size of different
sizes as earlier with a little variation of adding punched holes of
different numbers instead of the emburshed shapes which might become
flat on over use, but holes remains unaltered and easily recognisable
provided that they are made of recognisable size (atleast of 2mm each)
and untearable.

However technology develops we can't purely relay on it at all part of
work & time. No one has patience to wait for us to recognise
currencies with apps and also RBI should suggest us how we can
identify fake notes as we notice that such fake notes are in wander...


On 5/16/19, Sanchit Katiyar  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think that there is no alternative rather than making the Indian
> currencies themselves partially accessible to persons with blindness
> by assigning different sizes to different currencies as was earlier
> the case. This effort can be augmented by introducing hardware devices
> and mobile based solutions.
>
> But technological solutions alone would not be enough as it is very
> difficult to use them in a crowded places.
>
>
> On 5/16/19, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> how many blind persons use touch mobile phones? RBI have no study of it
>> at
>> all. even in cities we can not find good internet connectivity.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Amit Bhatt
>> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:23 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually
>> impaired people identify rupee notes
>>
>> I also deem that RBI should work on introducing a dedicated device to
>> identify Indian currencies. Some of the mobile appllications are already
>> there but these apps are not that much of consistent.
>>
>> A dedicated hardware device may fulfill the requirement in offline mode
>> without using internet. Morover, such device can be useful in much crowd
>> area as marcket, railleway station and so on.
>>
>> A Mobile application cannot be used efficiently in a crowded vegetable
>> marcket and many places where you don't have much time to identify the
>> notes
>> and where internet connectivity is always interupted.
>> If not RBI, the Organizations bringing various assistive devices for the
>> blind may do this work in consultation with Reserve Bank of India.
>>
>> Warm Regards,
>>
>> Amit Bhatt
>>
>> Moderator - SayEverything, an open discussion forum for persons with
>> disabilities
>> https://lists.sayeverything.org/mailman/listinfo/sayeverything
>>
>> Techpedia India, A Technical discussion Board in India
>> https://lists.sayeverything.org/mailman/listinfo/techpediaindia
>>
>> www.sayeverything.org
>>
>> Head - Banking Wing, National Federation of the Blind
>> www.nfbindia.org
>>
>> Ast Manager - United Bank of India
>> www.unitedbankofindia.com
>>
>> Mob: +91-9560175887
>>
>> "A player that makes a team great is more valuable than a great player"
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Prashant Ranjan Verma" 
>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually
>> impaired people identify rupee notes
>>
>>
>>> The RBI has really created a mess with these new series of notes.
>>> They must provide the hardware device similr to the one used in USA to
>>> all
>>> those who ask for it. Yes it may cost them quite a lot but they need to
>>> be
>>> punished for what they have done.
>>> Mobile apps are already there, why are they wasting public money on it.
>>>
>>> Prashant Ranjan Verma
>>> Accessibility Specialist, DAISY Consortium - www.daisy.org
>>>
>>> Certified Professional in Accessibility Core Competencies - CPACC
>>> Individual Member, International Association of Accessibility
>>> Professionals
>>> (IAAP) - www.accessibilityassociation.org
>>>
>>> General Secretary, National Association for the Blind - www.nabdelhi.in
>>> Chairman Sugamya Pustakalaya Committee - www.sugamyapustakalaya.in
>>> Trustee, Saksham - www.saksham.org
>>> Board Member, Abilympics - www.abilympicsindia.org
>>> Founder - AccessAble - www.accessable.in
>>>
>>> Phone: +91 9811686966
>>>
>>> Creating the Best Way to Re

Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually impaired people identify rupee notes

2019-05-16 Thread Sanchit Katiyar
Hi,

I think that there is no alternative rather than making the Indian
currencies themselves partially accessible to persons with blindness
by assigning different sizes to different currencies as was earlier
the case. This effort can be augmented by introducing hardware devices
and mobile based solutions.

But technological solutions alone would not be enough as it is very
difficult to use them in a crowded places.


On 5/16/19, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> how many blind persons use touch mobile phones? RBI have no study of it at
> all. even in cities we can not find good internet connectivity.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Amit Bhatt
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:23 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually
> impaired people identify rupee notes
>
> I also deem that RBI should work on introducing a dedicated device to
> identify Indian currencies. Some of the mobile appllications are already
> there but these apps are not that much of consistent.
>
> A dedicated hardware device may fulfill the requirement in offline mode
> without using internet. Morover, such device can be useful in much crowd
> area as marcket, railleway station and so on.
>
> A Mobile application cannot be used efficiently in a crowded vegetable
> marcket and many places where you don't have much time to identify the
> notes
> and where internet connectivity is always interupted.
> If not RBI, the Organizations bringing various assistive devices for the
> blind may do this work in consultation with Reserve Bank of India.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Amit Bhatt
>
> Moderator - SayEverything, an open discussion forum for persons with
> disabilities
> https://lists.sayeverything.org/mailman/listinfo/sayeverything
>
> Techpedia India, A Technical discussion Board in India
> https://lists.sayeverything.org/mailman/listinfo/techpediaindia
>
> www.sayeverything.org
>
> Head - Banking Wing, National Federation of the Blind
> www.nfbindia.org
>
> Ast Manager - United Bank of India
> www.unitedbankofindia.com
>
> Mob: +91-9560175887
>
> "A player that makes a team great is more valuable than a great player"
> - Original Message -
> From: "Prashant Ranjan Verma" 
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> the disabled.'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually
> impaired people identify rupee notes
>
>
>> The RBI has really created a mess with these new series of notes.
>> They must provide the hardware device similr to the one used in USA to
>> all
>> those who ask for it. Yes it may cost them quite a lot but they need to
>> be
>> punished for what they have done.
>> Mobile apps are already there, why are they wasting public money on it.
>>
>> Prashant Ranjan Verma
>> Accessibility Specialist, DAISY Consortium - www.daisy.org
>>
>> Certified Professional in Accessibility Core Competencies - CPACC
>> Individual Member, International Association of Accessibility
>> Professionals
>> (IAAP) - www.accessibilityassociation.org
>>
>> General Secretary, National Association for the Blind - www.nabdelhi.in
>> Chairman Sugamya Pustakalaya Committee - www.sugamyapustakalaya.in
>> Trustee, Saksham - www.saksham.org
>> Board Member, Abilympics - www.abilympicsindia.org
>> Founder - AccessAble - www.accessable.in
>>
>> Phone: +91 9811686966
>>
>> Creating the Best Way to Read and Publish - www.daisy.org
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia  On Behalf Of
>> Amiyo Biswas
>> Sent: 15 May 2019 17:34
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled. 
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually
>> impaired people identify rupee notes
>>
>> Thanks to Amar for his judicious comments.
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Amiyo Biswas
>> Cell: 9433464329 / 6290527506
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ramya Venkitesh" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 4:23 PM
>> Subject: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually
>> impaired
>> people identify rupee notes
>>
>>
>>> Source: Newz Hook <https://newzhook.com/story/22245>
>>>
>>> The visually impaired community in India is not able to access the new
>>> currency notes as they are inaccessible

Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually impaired people identify rupee notes

2019-05-16 Thread bhawani shankar verma
how many blind persons use touch mobile phones? RBI have no study of it at 
all. even in cities we can not find good internet connectivity.




-Original Message- 
From: Amit Bhatt

Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:23 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually 
impaired people identify rupee notes


I also deem that RBI should work on introducing a dedicated device to
identify Indian currencies. Some of the mobile appllications are already
there but these apps are not that much of consistent.

A dedicated hardware device may fulfill the requirement in offline mode
without using internet. Morover, such device can be useful in much crowd
area as marcket, railleway station and so on.

A Mobile application cannot be used efficiently in a crowded vegetable
marcket and many places where you don't have much time to identify the notes
and where internet connectivity is always interupted.
If not RBI, the Organizations bringing various assistive devices for the
blind may do this work in consultation with Reserve Bank of India.

Warm Regards,

Amit Bhatt

Moderator - SayEverything, an open discussion forum for persons with
disabilities
https://lists.sayeverything.org/mailman/listinfo/sayeverything

Techpedia India, A Technical discussion Board in India
https://lists.sayeverything.org/mailman/listinfo/techpediaindia

www.sayeverything.org

Head - Banking Wing, National Federation of the Blind
www.nfbindia.org

Ast Manager - United Bank of India
www.unitedbankofindia.com

Mob: +91-9560175887

"A player that makes a team great is more valuable than a great player"
- Original Message - 
From: "Prashant Ranjan Verma" 

To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually
impaired people identify rupee notes



The RBI has really created a mess with these new series of notes.
They must provide the hardware device similr to the one used in USA to all
those who ask for it. Yes it may cost them quite a lot but they need to be
punished for what they have done.
Mobile apps are already there, why are they wasting public money on it.

Prashant Ranjan Verma
Accessibility Specialist, DAISY Consortium - www.daisy.org

Certified Professional in Accessibility Core Competencies - CPACC
Individual Member, International Association of Accessibility 
Professionals

(IAAP) - www.accessibilityassociation.org

General Secretary, National Association for the Blind - www.nabdelhi.in
Chairman Sugamya Pustakalaya Committee - www.sugamyapustakalaya.in
Trustee, Saksham - www.saksham.org
Board Member, Abilympics - www.abilympicsindia.org
Founder - AccessAble - www.accessable.in

Phone: +91 9811686966

Creating the Best Way to Read and Publish - www.daisy.org

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia  On Behalf Of
Amiyo Biswas
Sent: 15 May 2019 17:34
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually
impaired people identify rupee notes

Thanks to Amar for his judicious comments.

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 9433464329 / 6290527506

- Original Message -
From: "Ramya Venkitesh" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 4:23 PM
Subject: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually impaired
people identify rupee notes



Source: Newz Hook <https://newzhook.com/story/22245>

The visually impaired community in India is not able to access the new
currency notes as they are inaccessible. This makes cash transactions
challenging for around 80 lakh visually impaired people in the country.

The lack of identifiable features such as the dimensions and tactile
marks, that can be felt and sensed by blind people through touch have
made the new notes a huge headache.

The Reserve Bank of India says it is not feasible to completely remove
the new notes from circulation, and has proposed to use technology to
fix the problem. It has come forward with the idea of a mobile phone
application that can be used to identify rupee notes.

While the move to find a solution, which comes after sustained
pressure from disability rights groups, has been appreciated,
technology may not offer the way forward says Mumbai-based lawyer Amar
Jain.

I will say that it's one of the ways to solve the problem but it does
not address the underlying problem of the physical currency being
inaccessible by itself. I do understand the challenge of replacing a
large volume of currency notes printed and there is cost involved in
everything but at the same time we should take lessons from this and
should ensure that at least the future designs of currency notes are
accessible for blind people. I don't think to fix something like this
with 

Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually impaired people identify rupee notes

2019-05-15 Thread Amit Bhatt
I also deem that RBI should work on introducing a dedicated device to 
identify Indian currencies. Some of the mobile appllications are already 
there but these apps are not that much of consistent.


A dedicated hardware device may fulfill the requirement in offline mode 
without using internet. Morover, such device can be useful in much crowd 
area as marcket, railleway station and so on.


A Mobile application cannot be used efficiently in a crowded vegetable 
marcket and many places where you don't have much time to identify the notes 
and where internet connectivity is always interupted.
If not RBI, the Organizations bringing various assistive devices for the 
blind may do this work in consultation with Reserve Bank of India.


Warm Regards,

Amit Bhatt

Moderator - SayEverything, an open discussion forum for persons with 
disabilities

https://lists.sayeverything.org/mailman/listinfo/sayeverything

Techpedia India, A Technical discussion Board in India
https://lists.sayeverything.org/mailman/listinfo/techpediaindia

www.sayeverything.org

Head - Banking Wing, National Federation of the Blind
www.nfbindia.org

Ast Manager - United Bank of India
www.unitedbankofindia.com

Mob: +91-9560175887

"A player that makes a team great is more valuable than a great player"
- Original Message - 
From: "Prashant Ranjan Verma" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" 

Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually 
impaired people identify rupee notes




The RBI has really created a mess with these new series of notes.
They must provide the hardware device similr to the one used in USA to all
those who ask for it. Yes it may cost them quite a lot but they need to be
punished for what they have done.
Mobile apps are already there, why are they wasting public money on it.

Prashant Ranjan Verma
Accessibility Specialist, DAISY Consortium - www.daisy.org

Certified Professional in Accessibility Core Competencies - CPACC
Individual Member, International Association of Accessibility 
Professionals

(IAAP) - www.accessibilityassociation.org

General Secretary, National Association for the Blind - www.nabdelhi.in
Chairman Sugamya Pustakalaya Committee - www.sugamyapustakalaya.in
Trustee, Saksham - www.saksham.org
Board Member, Abilympics - www.abilympicsindia.org
Founder - AccessAble - www.accessable.in

Phone: +91 9811686966

Creating the Best Way to Read and Publish - www.daisy.org

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia  On Behalf Of
Amiyo Biswas
Sent: 15 May 2019 17:34
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually
impaired people identify rupee notes

Thanks to Amar for his judicious comments.

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 9433464329 / 6290527506

- Original Message -
From: "Ramya Venkitesh" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 4:23 PM
Subject: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually impaired
people identify rupee notes



Source: Newz Hook <https://newzhook.com/story/22245>

The visually impaired community in India is not able to access the new
currency notes as they are inaccessible. This makes cash transactions
challenging for around 80 lakh visually impaired people in the country.

The lack of identifiable features such as the dimensions and tactile
marks, that can be felt and sensed by blind people through touch have
made the new notes a huge headache.

The Reserve Bank of India says it is not feasible to completely remove
the new notes from circulation, and has proposed to use technology to
fix the problem. It has come forward with the idea of a mobile phone
application that can be used to identify rupee notes.

While the move to find a solution, which comes after sustained
pressure from disability rights groups, has been appreciated,
technology may not offer the way forward says Mumbai-based lawyer Amar
Jain.

I will say that it's one of the ways to solve the problem but it does
not address the underlying problem of the physical currency being
inaccessible by itself. I do understand the challenge of replacing a
large volume of currency notes printed and there is cost involved in
everything but at the same time we should take lessons from this and
should ensure that at least the future designs of currency notes are
accessible for blind people. I don't think to fix something like this
with technology is a holistic approach. - Amar Jain, Lawyer

Technology companies interested in developing an app for currency
identification have been asked to submit bids to the Reserve Bank of
India.

The RBI has sent out a proposal in this regard that outlines the
requirements from the app. The app needs to have features that are
accessible and can be used easily by the blind people. Some of the
features
are:


Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually impaired people identify rupee notes

2019-05-15 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Earlier there were murmurings of such a hard ware device on part of RBI.

They say some baroda based manufacturer makes those US devices, and RBI was to 
approach them.

Now why this foolish u turn?

I had written strongly to Deputy governor against thinking about any app to 
identify notes.


Now, RBI given what it is, is sure to muddle the things further.

Rajesh
Asudani


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Prashant Ranjan Verma
Sent: 15 May 2019 18:15
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually impaired 
people identify rupee notes

The RBI has really created a mess with these new series of notes.
They must provide the hardware device similr to the one used in USA to all 
those who ask for it. Yes it may cost them quite a lot but they need to be 
punished for what they have done.
Mobile apps are already there, why are they wasting public money on it.

Prashant Ranjan Verma
Accessibility Specialist, DAISY Consortium - www.daisy.noclick_org

Certified Professional in Accessibility Core Competencies - CPACC Individual 
Member, International Association of Accessibility Professionals
(IAAP) - www.accessibilityassociation.noclick_org

General Secretary, National Association for the Blind - www.nabdelhi.noclick_in 
Chairman Sugamya Pustakalaya Committee - www.sugamyapustakalaya.noclick_in 
Trustee, Saksham - www.saksham.noclick_org Board Member, Abilympics - 
www.abilympicsindia.noclick_org Founder - AccessAble - www.accessable.noclick_in

Phone: +91 9811686966

Creating the Best Way to Read and Publish - www.daisy.noclick_org

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia  On Behalf Of Amiyo 
Biswas
Sent: 15 May 2019 17:34
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually impaired 
people identify rupee notes

Thanks to Amar for his judicious comments.

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 9433464329 / 6290527506

- Original Message -
From: "Ramya Venkitesh" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 4:23 PM
Subject: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually impaired 
people identify rupee notes


> Source: Newz Hook <https://newzhook.noclick_com/story/22245>
>
> The visually impaired community in India is not able to access the new
> currency notes as they are inaccessible. This makes cash transactions
> challenging for around 80 lakh visually impaired people in the country.
>
> The lack of identifiable features such as the dimensions and tactile
> marks, that can be felt and sensed by blind people through touch have
> made the new notes a huge headache.
>
> The Reserve Bank of India says it is not feasible to completely remove
> the new notes from circulation, and has proposed to use technology to
> fix the problem. It has come forward with the idea of a mobile phone
> application that can be used to identify rupee notes.
>
> While the move to find a solution, which comes after sustained
> pressure from disability rights groups, has been appreciated,
> technology may not offer the way forward says Mumbai-based lawyer Amar
> Jain.
>
> I will say that it's one of the ways to solve the problem but it does
> not address the underlying problem of the physical currency being
> inaccessible by itself. I do understand the challenge of replacing a
> large volume of currency notes printed and there is cost involved in
> everything but at the same time we should take lessons from this and
> should ensure that at least the future designs of currency notes are
> accessible for blind people. I don't think to fix something like this
> with technology is a holistic approach. - Amar Jain, Lawyer
>
> Technology companies interested in developing an app for currency
> identification have been asked to submit bids to the Reserve Bank of
> India.
>
> The RBI has sent out a proposal in this regard that outlines the
> requirements from the app. The app needs to have features that are
> accessible and can be used easily by the blind people. Some of the
> features
> are:
>
> * The app should be able to identify banknotes of Mahatma Gandhi
> Series and Mahatma Gandhi New series by capturing the image of the
> notes placed in front of mobile camera or scrolled across it.
> * Should be able to identify the note within a duration of two seconds
> or less.
> * Work in offline mode without Internet connection.
> * Interface should be available with multi-lingual support or at least
> Hindi and English.
> * Provide audio notifications.
> * Users should be able to find the app in all the app stores using the
> voice option.
>
> While the app may help some,

Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually impaired people identify rupee notes

2019-05-15 Thread Prashant Ranjan Verma
The RBI has really created a mess with these new series of notes.
They must provide the hardware device similr to the one used in USA to all
those who ask for it. Yes it may cost them quite a lot but they need to be
punished for what they have done. 
Mobile apps are already there, why are they wasting public money on it. 

Prashant Ranjan Verma 
Accessibility Specialist, DAISY Consortium - www.daisy.org 

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia  On Behalf Of
Amiyo Biswas
Sent: 15 May 2019 17:34
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually
impaired people identify rupee notes

Thanks to Amar for his judicious comments.

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 9433464329 / 6290527506

- Original Message -
From: "Ramya Venkitesh" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 4:23 PM
Subject: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually impaired
people identify rupee notes


> Source: Newz Hook <https://newzhook.com/story/22245>
>
> The visually impaired community in India is not able to access the new 
> currency notes as they are inaccessible. This makes cash transactions 
> challenging for around 80 lakh visually impaired people in the country.
>
> The lack of identifiable features such as the dimensions and tactile 
> marks, that can be felt and sensed by blind people through touch have 
> made the new notes a huge headache.
>
> The Reserve Bank of India says it is not feasible to completely remove 
> the new notes from circulation, and has proposed to use technology to 
> fix the problem. It has come forward with the idea of a mobile phone 
> application that can be used to identify rupee notes.
>
> While the move to find a solution, which comes after sustained 
> pressure from disability rights groups, has been appreciated, 
> technology may not offer the way forward says Mumbai-based lawyer Amar 
> Jain.
>
> I will say that it's one of the ways to solve the problem but it does 
> not address the underlying problem of the physical currency being 
> inaccessible by itself. I do understand the challenge of replacing a 
> large volume of currency notes printed and there is cost involved in 
> everything but at the same time we should take lessons from this and 
> should ensure that at least the future designs of currency notes are 
> accessible for blind people. I don't think to fix something like this 
> with technology is a holistic approach. - Amar Jain, Lawyer
>
> Technology companies interested in developing an app for currency 
> identification have been asked to submit bids to the Reserve Bank of 
> India.
>
> The RBI has sent out a proposal in this regard that outlines the 
> requirements from the app. The app needs to have features that are 
> accessible and can be used easily by the blind people. Some of the 
> features
> are:
>
> * The app should be able to identify banknotes of Mahatma Gandhi 
> Series and Mahatma Gandhi New series by capturing the image of the 
> notes placed in front of mobile camera or scrolled across it.
> * Should be able to identify the note within a duration of two seconds 
> or less.
> * Work in offline mode without Internet connection.
> * Interface should be available with multi-lingual support or at least 
> Hindi and English.
> * Provide audio notifications.
> * Users should be able to find the app in all the app stores using the 
> voice option.
>
> While the app may help some, what about those who do not have access 
> to this technology? asks Vishal Kumar Jain.
>
> Jain, who is a member of BGFI-Blind Graduates' Forum of India says, 
> most people with visual disabilities in India do not have access to 
> smartphones and have limited opportunities to learn using screen 
> reading technology to operate a phone. "Also, the RBI doesn't seem to 
> have conducted any structured user needs study before specifying the 
> requirements in the tender", adds Jain. "Imagine the practicality of 
> holding a white cane in one hand in a crowded noisy street, while 
> using the other hand to hold the phone and point the camera accurately 
> towards currency, without being able to see".
>
> A

Re: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually impaired people identify rupee notes

2019-05-15 Thread Amiyo Biswas

Thanks to Amar for his judicious comments.

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 9433464329 / 6290527506

- Original Message - 
From: "Ramya Venkitesh" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 4:23 PM
Subject: [AI] Reserve Bank of India suggests app to help visually impaired 
people identify rupee notes




Source: Newz Hook 

The visually impaired community in India is not able to access the new
currency notes as they are inaccessible. This makes cash transactions
challenging for around 80 lakh visually impaired people in the country.

The lack of identifiable features such as the dimensions and tactile 
marks,
that can be felt and sensed by blind people through touch have made the 
new

notes a huge headache.

The Reserve Bank of India says it is not feasible to completely remove the
new notes from circulation, and has proposed to use technology to fix the
problem. It has come forward with the idea of a mobile phone application
that can be used to identify rupee notes.

While the move to find a solution, which comes after sustained pressure 
from
disability rights groups, has been appreciated, technology may not offer 
the

way forward says Mumbai-based lawyer Amar Jain.

I will say that it's one of the ways to solve the problem but it does not
address the underlying problem of the physical currency being inaccessible
by itself. I do understand the challenge of replacing a large volume of
currency notes printed and there is cost involved in everything but at the
same time we should take lessons from this and should ensure that at least
the future designs of currency notes are accessible for blind people. I
don't think to fix something like this with technology is a holistic
approach. - Amar Jain, Lawyer

Technology companies interested in developing an app for currency
identification have been asked to submit bids to the Reserve Bank of 
India.


The RBI has sent out a proposal in this regard that outlines the
requirements from the app. The app needs to have features that are
accessible and can be used easily by the blind people. Some of the 
features

are:

* The app should be able to identify banknotes of Mahatma Gandhi
Series and Mahatma Gandhi New series by capturing the image of the notes
placed in front of mobile camera or scrolled across it.
* Should be able to identify the note within a duration of two seconds
or less.
* Work in offline mode without Internet connection.
* Interface should be available with multi-lingual support or at least
Hindi and English.
* Provide audio notifications.
* Users should be able to find the app in all the app stores using the
voice option.

While the app may help some, what about those who do not have access to 
this

technology? asks Vishal Kumar Jain.

Jain, who is a member of BGFI-Blind Graduates' Forum of India says, most
people with visual disabilities in India do not have access to smartphones
and have limited opportunities to learn using screen reading technology to
operate a phone. "Also, the RBI doesn't seem to have conducted any
structured user needs study before specifying the requirements in the
tender", adds Jain. "Imagine the practicality of holding a white cane in 
one
hand in a crowded noisy street, while using the other hand to hold the 
phone

and point the camera accurately towards currency, without being able to
see".

A better approach he says would be to have a small wearable device.

The Central Bank of India and the Centre will need to step up and make 
sure

that such missteps do not occur again in the future and that whenever
currency is designed, it is done with thorough consideration. This is true
not just for currency but digital transactions, banks and ATMs too.

Thanks & Regards

Ramya Venkitesh |Head New Initiatives

Newz Hook 

Newz Hook is now on WhatsApp 



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