Re: [AI] idea for the documentary

2006-07-26 Thread Kasha 
Hi,

As per this issue, sometimes, some people use to hold my other end of my 
cane for guiding me though. Actually, I don't prefer that way of guidance. 
Because, as I feel, uncomfortable with that type of guidance. since I'm 
using my foulding cane, while they pull that little stronger, the elastic 
may get cut off or, will give us some confusing mind. In some cases, some of 
them will give me their pen to hold the other end of it. I, sometimes, felt 
that was ok too. since the pen has no joins and since it is a smaller thing, 
hope, it may not misguide us.

Cheers,

Kasha.
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From: Dinesh Kaushal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [AI] idea for the documentary


 yes, I can add that some people tend to hold the walking cane in stead of
 our hand , and do not change even with insistence.

 I can recall another insidence, that one person who used to sit at 
 crossing
 and when I approached it he used to come and help. but his help was of
 forceful nature.

 once I asserted that he hold my hand rather than the stick, he might have
 felt bad and to show his anger he just shooked me and left me in the 
 middle
 of the road which could be dangerous.

 Another time I was waiting on a bus stop, and a young guy pulled up with 
 his
 scooter and offered his help, as I do not appriciate unsolicited help, I
 declined the offer and suggested that I can manage on my own and have no
 problem in travelling in bus. He got enraged and started saying things 
 like
 you are shying like a girl, I will not kidnap you.

 These are some of the insidences which I could recall, but there might be
 lots of instances which others may have faced.

 Regards
 Dinesh

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 From: Subramani L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] idea for the documentary


 Fortunately, no one held me by my collar, but many have literally 'man
 handled' me by pushing me from behind like a car, twisting my arm to the
 extant that I had to scream in discomfort and lifting and downing my
 elbow to indicate ups and downs.

 Subramani

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 hi friends this is jatin shah
 I'm trying to make a documentary where I'm going to show incidents which

 have taken place with the visually challenged. The purpose behind this
 is to
 create awareness among other people about visually challenged. Therefore
 I'm
 going to use Malhar (the xaviers college festival) as a platform to film
 the
 documentary.
 This movie will not exceed five minutes. I am planning to divide this
 movie
 in two parts:
 The first part will be about how people tend to make blunders. For
 example
 when a friend of mine asked for assisstance to cross the road, a woman
 dragged him by his collar instead of allowing him to hold her arm.
 The second half will show the correct way to assisst etc.
 So I would like to hear of incidents which have taken place with any of
 you
 as it would be a great help to me.
 I'm doing this to spread awareness about the visually challenged.
 I look forward to your response.
 Jatin Shah



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Re: [AI] idea for the documentary

2006-07-25 Thread Geetha Shamanna 
Dinesh,

This is all the same done most of the time, and I must confess that I 
sometimes simply do not have the energy to protest. My observation has been 
that people with some amount of education do not usually lead you by holding 
the cane, but people with relatively little education do that more often. 
This may differ with others, but in my case, colleagues who lead me to the 
bus have never held my cane; on the other hand, when any of the bus drivers 
do so, they invariably take one end of my cane.

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] idea for the documentary


 holding cane in a way as if you are being dragged is not good, and it 
 would
 be far difficult for me to explaine in words, nevertheless I will try.

 Let us say you are holding the cane from the top of it as all of us do it.
 then someone grabs it from the middle or from the other end and pulls you,
 this is what I ment by holding the cane. Sorry if I was not clear enough. 
 It
 is very hard to explain feelings properly in words.

 Dinesh



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 From: Taraprakash [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 12:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] idea for the documentary


 As about not holding or letting hold of hand is concerned, I think we
 shouldn't be so demanding. I wouldn't mind someone holding my cane and
 helping me cross the road, rather than holding my hand.

 Do you think the kind of people who watch documentaries, are found 
 walking
 on the roads? Documentaries are more or less watched by few elite unless
 they are shown on the television.

 Sorry for being cynical, the idea of such a documentary is good, but I
 have
 serious doubts how much awareness it can bring.

 All the best for your endeavour.

 - Original Message - 
 From: jatin shah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:24 AM
 Subject: [AI] idea for the documentary


 hi friends this is jatin shah
 I'm trying to make a documentary where I'm going to show incidents which
 have taken place with the visually challenged. The purpose behind this 
 is
 to
 create awareness among other people about visually challenged. Therefore
 I'm
 going to use Malhar (the xaviers college festival) as a platform to film
 the
 documentary.
 This movie will not exceed five minutes. I am planning to divide this
 movie
 in two parts:
 The first part will be about how people tend to make blunders. For
 example
 when a friend of mine asked for assisstance to cross the road, a woman
 dragged him by his collar instead of allowing him to hold her arm.
 The second half will show the correct way to assisst etc.
 So I would like to hear of incidents which have taken place with any of
 you
 as it would be a great help to me.
 I'm doing this to spread awareness about the visually challenged.
 I look forward to your response.
 Jatin Shah



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Re: [AI] idea for the documentary

2006-07-25 Thread Taraprakash 
In case of such practical problem, I would  myself ask the person assisting 
me to hold my hand. Sometimes, it is better to communicate directly to the 
person involved in the situation, rather than discussing it once he/she's 
gone.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] idea for the documentary


 Dear Thara:

 There's a practical problem in someone holding our cane. Because they do
 it while crossing the road, there's a gap between the guide and the VH
 and there's only the cane that connects them. So, if a two-wheeler comes
 between them, it becomes very difficult for the guide to take the VH
 around the bike standing between them. Also, we need our stick to look
 for pits and uneven surface, even though someone is helping us walk
 through the difficult place. This's because most who guide us don't know
 that they should indicate pits and uneven surfaces and even if someone
 knows that they should, he/she isn't sure how to do it.

 Subramani

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 As about not holding or letting hold of hand is concerned, I think we
 shouldn't be so demanding. I wouldn't mind someone holding my cane and
 helping me cross the road, rather than holding my hand.

 Do you think the kind of people who watch documentaries, are found
 walking
 on the roads? Documentaries are more or less watched by few elite unless

 they are shown on the television.

 Sorry for being cynical, the idea of such a documentary is good, but I
 have
 serious doubts how much awareness it can bring.

 All the best for your endeavour.

 - Original Message - 
 From: jatin shah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:24 AM
 Subject: [AI] idea for the documentary


 hi friends this is jatin shah
 I'm trying to make a documentary where I'm going to show incidents
 which
 have taken place with the visually challenged. The purpose behind this
 is
 to
 create awareness among other people about visually challenged.
 Therefore
 I'm
 going to use Malhar (the xaviers college festival) as a platform to
 film
 the
 documentary.
 This movie will not exceed five minutes. I am planning to divide this
 movie
 in two parts:
 The first part will be about how people tend to make blunders. For
 example
 when a friend of mine asked for assisstance to cross the road, a woman
 dragged him by his collar instead of allowing him to hold her arm.
 The second half will show the correct way to assisst etc.
 So I would like to hear of incidents which have taken place with any
 of
 you
 as it would be a great help to me.
 I'm doing this to spread awareness about the visually challenged.
 I look forward to your response.
 Jatin Shah



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Re: [AI] idea for the documentary

2006-07-25 Thread Kiran Kaja 
Strangely enough, everyone at office have developed a habit of giving me
directions rather than holding my hand or cane . This applies to colleagues
and the security personnel.

Regards,
Kiran.

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Dinesh,

This is all the same done most of the time, and I must confess that I
sometimes simply do not have the energy to protest. My observation has been
that people with some amount of education do not usually lead you by holding
the cane, but people with relatively little education do that more often. 
This may differ with others, but in my case, colleagues who lead me to the
bus have never held my cane; on the other hand, when any of the bus drivers
do so, they invariably take one end of my cane.

- Original Message -
From: Dinesh Kaushal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] idea for the documentary


 holding cane in a way as if you are being dragged is not good, and it 
 would
 be far difficult for me to explaine in words, nevertheless I will try.

 Let us say you are holding the cane from the top of it as all of us do it.
 then someone grabs it from the middle or from the other end and pulls you,
 this is what I ment by holding the cane. Sorry if I was not clear enough. 
 It
 is very hard to explain feelings properly in words.

 Dinesh



 - Original Message - 
 From: Taraprakash [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 12:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] idea for the documentary


 As about not holding or letting hold of hand is concerned, I think we
 shouldn't be so demanding. I wouldn't mind someone holding my cane and
 helping me cross the road, rather than holding my hand.

 Do you think the kind of people who watch documentaries, are found 
 walking
 on the roads? Documentaries are more or less watched by few elite unless
 they are shown on the television.

 Sorry for being cynical, the idea of such a documentary is good, but I
 have
 serious doubts how much awareness it can bring.

 All the best for your endeavour.

 - Original Message - 
 From: jatin shah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:24 AM
 Subject: [AI] idea for the documentary


 hi friends this is jatin shah
 I'm trying to make a documentary where I'm going to show incidents which
 have taken place with the visually challenged. The purpose behind this 
 is
 to
 create awareness among other people about visually challenged. Therefore
 I'm
 going to use Malhar (the xaviers college festival) as a platform to film
 the
 documentary.
 This movie will not exceed five minutes. I am planning to divide this
 movie
 in two parts:
 The first part will be about how people tend to make blunders. For
 example
 when a friend of mine asked for assisstance to cross the road, a woman
 dragged him by his collar instead of allowing him to hold her arm.
 The second half will show the correct way to assisst etc.
 So I would like to hear of incidents which have taken place with any of
 you
 as it would be a great help to me.
 I'm doing this to spread awareness about the visually challenged.
 I look forward to your response.
 Jatin Shah



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Re: [AI] idea for the documentary

2006-07-24 Thread Subramani L 
Fortunately, no one held me by my collar, but many have literally 'man
handled' me by pushing me from behind like a car, twisting my arm to the
extant that I had to scream in discomfort and lifting and downing my
elbow to indicate ups and downs.

Subramani

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hi friends this is jatin shah
I'm trying to make a documentary where I'm going to show incidents which

have taken place with the visually challenged. The purpose behind this
is to 
create awareness among other people about visually challenged. Therefore
I'm 
going to use Malhar (the xaviers college festival) as a platform to film
the 
documentary.
This movie will not exceed five minutes. I am planning to divide this
movie 
in two parts:
The first part will be about how people tend to make blunders. For
example 
when a friend of mine asked for assisstance to cross the road, a woman 
dragged him by his collar instead of allowing him to hold her arm.
The second half will show the correct way to assisst etc.
So I would like to hear of incidents which have taken place with any of
you 
as it would be a great help to me.
I'm doing this to spread awareness about the visually challenged.
I look forward to your response.
Jatin Shah



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Re: [AI] idea for the documentary

2006-07-24 Thread Dinesh Kaushal 
yes, I can add that some people tend to hold the walking cane in stead of 
our hand , and do not change even with insistence.

I can recall another insidence, that one person who used to sit at crossing 
and when I approached it he used to come and help. but his help was of 
forceful nature.

once I asserted that he hold my hand rather than the stick, he might have 
felt bad and to show his anger he just shooked me and left me in the middle 
of the road which could be dangerous.

Another time I was waiting on a bus stop, and a young guy pulled up with his 
scooter and offered his help, as I do not appriciate unsolicited help, I 
declined the offer and suggested that I can manage on my own and have no 
problem in travelling in bus. He got enraged and started saying things like 
you are shying like a girl, I will not kidnap you.

These are some of the insidences which I could recall, but there might be 
lots of instances which others may have faced.

Regards
Dinesh

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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] idea for the documentary


 Fortunately, no one held me by my collar, but many have literally 'man
 handled' me by pushing me from behind like a car, twisting my arm to the
 extant that I had to scream in discomfort and lifting and downing my
 elbow to indicate ups and downs.

 Subramani

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 hi friends this is jatin shah
 I'm trying to make a documentary where I'm going to show incidents which

 have taken place with the visually challenged. The purpose behind this
 is to
 create awareness among other people about visually challenged. Therefore
 I'm
 going to use Malhar (the xaviers college festival) as a platform to film
 the
 documentary.
 This movie will not exceed five minutes. I am planning to divide this
 movie
 in two parts:
 The first part will be about how people tend to make blunders. For
 example
 when a friend of mine asked for assisstance to cross the road, a woman
 dragged him by his collar instead of allowing him to hold her arm.
 The second half will show the correct way to assisst etc.
 So I would like to hear of incidents which have taken place with any of
 you
 as it would be a great help to me.
 I'm doing this to spread awareness about the visually challenged.
 I look forward to your response.
 Jatin Shah



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Re: [AI] idea for the documentary

2006-07-24 Thread Taraprakash 
As about not holding or letting hold of hand is concerned, I think we 
shouldn't be so demanding. I wouldn't mind someone holding my cane and 
helping me cross the road, rather than holding my hand.

Do you think the kind of people who watch documentaries, are found walking 
on the roads? Documentaries are more or less watched by few elite unless 
they are shown on the television.

Sorry for being cynical, the idea of such a documentary is good, but I have 
serious doubts how much awareness it can bring.

All the best for your endeavour.

- Original Message - 
From: jatin shah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:24 AM
Subject: [AI] idea for the documentary


 hi friends this is jatin shah
 I'm trying to make a documentary where I'm going to show incidents which
 have taken place with the visually challenged. The purpose behind this is 
 to
 create awareness among other people about visually challenged. Therefore 
 I'm
 going to use Malhar (the xaviers college festival) as a platform to film 
 the
 documentary.
 This movie will not exceed five minutes. I am planning to divide this 
 movie
 in two parts:
 The first part will be about how people tend to make blunders. For example
 when a friend of mine asked for assisstance to cross the road, a woman
 dragged him by his collar instead of allowing him to hold her arm.
 The second half will show the correct way to assisst etc.
 So I would like to hear of incidents which have taken place with any of 
 you
 as it would be a great help to me.
 I'm doing this to spread awareness about the visually challenged.
 I look forward to your response.
 Jatin Shah



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Re: [AI] idea for the documentary

2006-07-24 Thread mahendra 
Dear Tara
it is totaly wrong, when some one helping us, is holding our cane,
further they should be told to offer there hand, not take ours,
so please don't give wrong signal to people by letting them holding your cane.

and Jatin, keep up the good work.
with warm regards
At 08:43 PM 7/24/2006, you wrote:
As about not holding or letting hold of hand is concerned, I think we
shouldn't be so demanding. I wouldn't mind someone holding my cane and
helping me cross the road, rather than holding my hand.

Do you think the kind of people who watch documentaries, are found walking
on the roads? Documentaries are more or less watched by few elite unless
they are shown on the television.

Sorry for being cynical, the idea of such a documentary is good, but I have
serious doubts how much awareness it can bring.

All the best for your endeavour.

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From: jatin shah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:24 AM
Subject: [AI] idea for the documentary


  hi friends this is jatin shah
  I'm trying to make a documentary where I'm going to show incidents which
  have taken place with the visually challenged. The purpose behind this is
  to
  create awareness among other people about visually challenged. Therefore
  I'm
  going to use Malhar (the xaviers college festival) as a platform to film
  the
  documentary.
  This movie will not exceed five minutes. I am planning to divide this
  movie
  in two parts:
  The first part will be about how people tend to make blunders. For example
  when a friend of mine asked for assisstance to cross the road, a woman
  dragged him by his collar instead of allowing him to hold her arm.
  The second half will show the correct way to assisst etc.
  So I would like to hear of incidents which have taken place with any of
  you
  as it would be a great help to me.
  I'm doing this to spread awareness about the visually challenged.
  I look forward to your response.
  Jatin Shah
 
 
 
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Re: [AI] idea for the documentary

2006-07-24 Thread Vikas Kapoor 
This clearly reveals that we shouldn't bother about anything, just let the 
show go on whatever way it goes. I'm sorry this is too negative and pathetic 
when it comes to real experiences. Yes, I do agree to some extent that the 
people who watch this sort of documentary are more advance that the real 
street people but don't forget that (A), this is the best way to disseminate 
the awareness. Changing the mind set of the society should be a challenge 
rather than just giving up completely for which you think it is impossible, 
and (B), all the people who behave like this are not street people or 
uneducated people, there are a number of well educated section of of the 
people who do such mischievous things simply they don't have an appropriate 
knowledge pertaining to the people with any sort of disability.
Vikas Kapoor,
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---Original Message - 
From: Taraprakash [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] idea for the documentary


 As about not holding or letting hold of hand is concerned, I think we
 shouldn't be so demanding. I wouldn't mind someone holding my cane and
 helping me cross the road, rather than holding my hand.

 Do you think the kind of people who watch documentaries, are found walking
 on the roads? Documentaries are more or less watched by few elite unless
 they are shown on the television.

 Sorry for being cynical, the idea of such a documentary is good, but I 
 have
 serious doubts how much awareness it can bring.

 All the best for your endeavour.

 - Original Message - 
 From: jatin shah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:24 AM
 Subject: [AI] idea for the documentary


 hi friends this is jatin shah
 I'm trying to make a documentary where I'm going to show incidents which
 have taken place with the visually challenged. The purpose behind this is
 to
 create awareness among other people about visually challenged. Therefore
 I'm
 going to use Malhar (the xaviers college festival) as a platform to film
 the
 documentary.
 This movie will not exceed five minutes. I am planning to divide this
 movie
 in two parts:
 The first part will be about how people tend to make blunders. For 
 example
 when a friend of mine asked for assisstance to cross the road, a woman
 dragged him by his collar instead of allowing him to hold her arm.
 The second half will show the correct way to assisst etc.
 So I would like to hear of incidents which have taken place with any of
 you
 as it would be a great help to me.
 I'm doing this to spread awareness about the visually challenged.
 I look forward to your response.
 Jatin Shah



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