Re: AOL Listserv to be Discontinued
Hello, [sun zoom spark szs-accm...@szs.net, Fri, 21 Oct 2011 01:18:18 +0100]: What should happen next? Should ACCMAIL just stop? Would somebody start a new list to replace it? Please give us your opinions and suggestions. As for me, my preference is for the continued existence of a very low traffic list, provided the spam can be contained. At any rate the ACCMAIL FAQ (various language versions) should be updated to reflect the change; and ideally the list archives should be available somehow. That is, however, my ideal wish list. But I have to confess that I have neither the means (FAQ) nor the time and experience (new list, list archive) to take care of any of these points. On 1 November I intend to retire as current ACCMAIL 'owner' and moderator. My involvement will terminate with the list itself. I have been doing it for more than 9 years, which is probably too long anyway. Thanks a lot for your work for all matters ACCMAIL! Best regards, Albert. -- To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address lists...@listserv.aol.com with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ Archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.emailonly --
Re: autoresponder
[la...@mail333.com, Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:28:35 +0400]: I sent e-mail, as was explained, but... nothing of reaction? What is wrong? Sorry, I don't know; it worked for me. According to the web page of the university that caters for this service, http://www.univie.ac.at/ZID/echo/ (in German), the response should look like this: Vienna University Computer Center - Echo Service e...@univie.ac.at This message was generated upon your request by the automatic answering service. Give me a ping, Vasily. One ping only please! Capt. Ramius, Hunt for Red October Answers are limited to _one_every_two_minutes_ to prevent abuse! Attached you'll find the first 4 kByte of your mail. Furthermore, it is stated explicitly that it can be used from anywhere and with any e-mail address. As you can obviously send and receive e-mail, I can only guess that - either your mail is filtered before e...@... ever sees it (do you have that problem with other services, too, perhaps?), - or that you sent more than one e-mail within two minutes, - or that the response is generated but never reaches your inbox (filters at your ISP, perhaps?). Sorry I cannot be of any help, and best regards - Albert. -- To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address lists...@listserv.aol.com with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ --
Re: autoresponder
[la...@mail333.com, Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:27:22 +0400]: Will You explain, how one can use this e-mail = e...@univie.ac.at ? As for the other autoresponders in the FAQ, you can send any e-mail to e...@univie.ac.at; the server will respond with an e-mail containing the beginning (4kB, I believe) of your e-mail, including all headers. This is often useful for checking whether you can send and/or receive e-mails, or for seeing what headers are added by your server. HTH, Albert. -- To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address lists...@listserv.aol.com with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ --
various failures to GET pages ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Hi, I wonder why the following URLs elicited error messages when trying to GET them via SZS' WWW4MAIL installation: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7729718.stm http://english.vietnamnet.vn/lifestyle/2008/11/815533/ http://religion.orf.at/projekt03/welcome/../news/0812/ne081202_homosexuell_fr.htm (The first two are items of archaeological news, the third one concerns the Vatican's stance on homosexuality.) A couple of hours ago, I could access all of these addresses without any problem with a live connection to the internet. In the case of http://religion.orf.at/projekt03/welcome/... an error 403 was returned even though I could fetch numerous other items of news from the same site at the same time. This led me to suspect some kind of blacklist banning any URL containing, e.g., sex might be at work; the other URLs look innocent enough to me, though. (In case such blacklists are used I somehow doubt whether such an approach is reasonable, especially for requests of text dumps which presumably are of limited pornographic value. But I understand that this might be difficult to administer using the current state of the www4mail code.) Another problem I have is with some Wikipedia pages: E.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheveningen only yields the table of contents of that page, and the same has happened to me with other entries, too. Is there some known trick I can use? Thanks in advance for any light you may shed, Albert. -- To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ --
Re: Maximum number of requests per mail at SZS?
Hello, [sun zoom spark [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sat, 29 Nov 2008 14:57:12 -]: , | You may request up to 5 resources in each email you send to | www4mail`AT`szs.net. ` ... Also I wonder if excess requests within a single mail are dropped silently or cause an error message. I don't know! Would you like to test it? By now, I did some testing: - At first, I sent an e-mail with 10 identical GET requests (same URL); as a result, I got exactly *one* copy back. This actually surprised me quite a bit as I would have expected at least five copies, or nothing at all. Is this a known / documented behavior of the WWW4MAIL code? - I then sent an e-mail with 8 different GET requests and got 5 responses (2 of which were error messages due to bad URLs). So it seems that the requests are SILENTLY TRUNCATED to five requests. Maybe this should eventually be mentioned in the documentation. Best regards, Albert. -- To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ --
Re: Proper Google search requests.
[Rodolfo Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:42:52 -0500]: Regular search: http://www.google.com/search?q=search+key+words Images: http://www.google.com/images?q=search+key+words News: http://www.google.com/news?q=search+key+words Scholar articles: http://www.google.com/scholar?q=search+key+words Books: http://www.google.com/books?q=search+key+words May I suggest that the text returned by SZS in response to the HELP GOOGLE command be modified to include these *simple* searches, too? Currently it only explains how to use the *advanced* search. Best regards, Albert. -- To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ --
Re: FW: Mail could not be delivered
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 09:27:13AM +0200, Wolfgang Rohloff (WH) wrote: Hi There Does anyone know if there is a problem with this service.All my mails cannot be deilivered. Assuming this is not just a temporary condition that has been resolved in the mean-time, it seems to me that this is evidently a problem with your internet provider, not with the recipient rejecting your address or with [EMAIL PROTECTED] not existing. I think so because I can send an e-mail with these data without any failure notice: $ telnet rumkin.com 25 Connected to rumkin.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 rumkin.com ESMTP mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 ok rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 ok data 354 go ahead foo bar . 250 ok 1225959529 qp 8873 quit 221 rumkin.com Connection closed by foreign host. (It might be that you get some error message from the webpage service because of this attempt.) HTH, Albert. -- To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ --
Re: Obsolete FAQ sections
[sun zoom spark [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:05:08 -]: Veronica, Jughead and Finger are obsolete and should not be include in the next FAQ. Does anyone disagree? I wouldn't consider finger obsolete, although I use it only occasionally. I don't know (and have not tried) whether there are any servers left, though. Albert. -- To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. --
Re: Availability of getweb; [EMAIL PROTECTED] and www4mail
[Wolfgang Rohloff (WH) [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wed, 24 May 2006 14:45:21 +0200]: Does anyone know of the availability of these services at the moment?? [ None of my requests are being acknowleged. I have been using [EMAIL PROTECTED] about once a week or so for a long time, and never noticed a problem. OTOH, as that request is sent automatically, I would not necessarily notice if something were lost occasionally. The last time I got a response was Thu, 18 May 2006 09:11:16 -0400 (EDT). HTH, Albert. -- To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. To get the latest version of the ACCMAIL FAQ, send a blank email to accmail.faq.en `AT` szs.net (replacing `AT` with @ to form a proper email address). --
netlib
After a long time, I again had to get something from netlib[1]. Maybe someone finds the following useful: The e-mail address [EMAIL PROTECTED] can still be found on some pages, but it does not seem to work any longer. On the other hand, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (and some variations thereof) do work well. Regards, Albert. [1] http://www.netlib.org/: a collection of mathematical software, papers, and databases. -- To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. To get the latest version of the ACCMAIL FAQ, send a blank email to accmail.faq.en `AT` szs.net (replacing `AT` with @ to form a proper email address). --
Re: The relevancy of the internet over SMTP and it's role in the future...?
[Nicholas Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tue, 2 Aug 2005 06:29:46 -0700]: what benefits do you see being realized from having the ability to access The Internet via email considering the current and proposed infrastructures? In my case, I have direct internet access for free at my work. Still I like to use Accmail methods for some things, primarily because it suits my way of working, and because sending mails is simple, even in scripts - just cat something to sendmail, or use a little elisp to run gnus on some files. In particular, I have long used mails sent to myself for things like to-do lists, even before I learnt about accmail possibilities; as a consequence I have a proven system for automatically sending mails to me or others at set times; and that means that anything that can be achieved by sending mails can easily be automated for me. Albert. -- To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. To get the latest version of the ACCMAIL FAQ, send a blank email to accmail.faq.en `AT` szs.net (replacing `AT` with @ to form a proper email address). --
Re: Is WWW4Mail at Trieste Dead?
But are the WWW4Mail servers still useful? As we all know, WWW4Mail is very good -- but why would you use it if you don't know when, or if, you will get a reply? I often find myself in a situation where I want to check some URL occasionally, and it doesn't matter at all whether it takes a couple of days or not. The context here is the next version of the ACCMAIL FAQ. My principal idea is that it should focus on how to perform tasks, rather than list servers which might or might not work. For example: How can I use email-only methods to get the latest news about XYZ?, or How can I use email-only methods to research my postgraduate dissertation on subject ABC? I do not really like this idea, at least as the overarching principle of organization and at the granularity of your examples: basically this amounts to a tutorial on what you can do on the internet - a huge task (that I believe others have undertaken already) that is likely to stall and is not really related to AccMail methods. ISTM that the focus of the ACCMAIL FAQ should really be on how to ACCESS something by e-mail: The user should already know what he/she wants to get, and the FAQ should answer the question of how he/she may do so by e-mail. Whether this is for a thesis or something else is quite irrelevant. So the more reasonable tasks would be, e.g., How can I find the list of newsgroups some server carries?, How can I read some newsgroup?, How can I read a specific newsgroup posting with known message ID?, etc., which would be answered by the list of possibilities that might include some superficial comparison including, e.g., typical latency. But once someone decides to use, say, www4mail, there is no reason to spread out the relevant documentation all over the FAQ; instead, I would very much prefer it to remain in one place. All this suggests a separation of the FAQ into several parts: - introduction, basic information on how to access the various parts of the FAQ; - types and addresses of servers - server statistics (separate so far) - net tasks (how can I read that newsgroup?) - real-world tasks (how can I research my thesis?) - useful addresses Although a single large file is certainly convenient to get, it may not be as convenient to use. Another aspect is my expectation that the more extensive the changes to the FAQ are with respect to 10.2, the less likely are translators to update the non-English versions. These are not abstract needs -- they are real tasks. To carry them out, readers of the FAQ should know which of the available resources are most suitable. If you need one web page, and you can wait for it, WWW4Mail is fine. But research often involves following a succession of links -- and for that, the current WWW4Mail servers would be no good at all. Again I would refrain from this kind of statement - it depends on your expectations and the way you organize your work more than on anything else, I think. I like the statement WWW4Mail servers tend to be slow to respond, look at the statistics to get a feeling for that much better than WWW4Mail is no good at all if you need to follow a succession of links. Regards, Albert. -- To contribute to the discussion, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. To get the latest version of the ACCMAIL FAQ, send a blank email to accmail.faq.en `AT` szs.net (replacing `AT` with @ to form a proper email address). --
Re: Updating the FAQ
[Sun Zoom Spark [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tue, 7 Sep 2004 03:17:21 +0100]: I would ask him if I could -- but all mail to expita.com bounces, so I can't ask him, and now I don't think it is necessary. I see no obstacle to editing the current FAQ as version 11. I'm sure Gerry would agree. To prevent a similar situation in the future, it might be a good idea to put some notes into the new version stating under what conditions people may modify and redistribute the text. (Just pointing to some well-known licence might be sufficient.) As a matter of fact, the English version contains: , |Copyright (c) 1999-2002, Gerald E. Boyd | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |All rights reserved. Permission is granted to duplicate and |distribute copies of this document provided the copyright |notice and this permission notice are preserved on all copies. ` I don't know anything about international copyright laws, but this seems to explicitly prohibit any modifications for the next couple of decades. In my interpretation the only alternatives are - to ignore Mr. Boyd's copyright and count on him not suing anybody; - to wait for a statement by Mr. Boyd that updating is fine with him; or - to write a new Accmail FAQ from scratch but in sufficiently different form so that the copyright of the old one does not apply. Albert. -- To contribute to the discussion, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. To get the latest version of the ACCMAIL FAQ, send a blank email to accmail.faq.en `AT` szs.net (replacing `AT` with @ to form a proper email address). --
Re: ACCMAIL in other languages
[Sun Zoom Spark [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wed, 1 Sep 2004 10:07:26 +0100]: On 31 Aug 2004 at 23:17, Albert Reiner wrote: Esperanto (version 10.2) is at http://purl.oclc.org/NET/a-reiner/esperanto/accmail/ You have four different versions! UTF-8-e, ISO-8859-3-e, ikse, fundamente Those are different ways of representing the diacritics. The first is in Unicode, which I suppose is not suitable for an autoresponder. The other three use 8-bit characters -- which one would be best for our purpose? IMO, ikse would be best, fundamente second best. Latin-3 and UTF-8 may cause problems with some systems as one would have to set the encoding in the mail header. Regards, Albert. -- To contribute to the discussion, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. To get the latest version of the ACCMAIL FAQ, send a blank email to accmail.faq.en `AT` szs.net (replacing `AT` with @ to form a proper email address). --
Re: http://www.expita.com down :: what next?
What is difficult is maintenance. ACCMAIL resources have rarely been stable for very long. Removal of dead links and timely addition of new resources is critical. It is too much for a single person. I have some ideas on how it might be done as a collaboration. I will try to find time in the next 48 hours to write them up and post them here -- but I am also keen to hear *any* other suggestions from *any* other subscribers. Time to brainstorm!? I see three options: - a WikiWiki web: Hosting should be no problem. The main problem is the danger of vandalism. (I would also prefer the more modern versions that do not rely on CamelCase.) - Using a content management / versioning system suitable for decentralized development, like tla or monotone or darcs. At least the latter two work over e-mail. But I suppose there are Windows users here, and I do not know which of these are usable there. - Simply publishing an archive of the mailing list, perhaps with some automatic indexing / searching. The least effort, but also not as nice as a `real' document. A related question is what to do with the various translations into other languages: This concerns both vandalism in the WikiWiki case (how do you know whether some gibberish is nonsense or some foreign language?) and the problem of staying up-to-date in the face of frequent changes; the latter is practically impossible for the mailing list archive, and very problematic for the WikiWiki web. Albert. ~~~ ACCMAIL Info (automatically generated) ~~ To UNSUBscribe: Send UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To get the ACCMAIL FAQ: Send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and enter only this line in the BODY of the note: send usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email ~
Re: ACCMAIL.SE@expita doesn't exist?
Saluton Rick: On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 12:20:52AM +0500, Rick Ekstrom wrote: ... BTW, the foreign language list is much smaller than it used to be. I wouldn't want to do the whole translation from scratch, but with the current accmail.faq next to the most recent Esperanto version (accmail.eo), I might be able to bring the esperanto up to the present, or assist with it. I used to teach beginner's esperanto, and should be well able to delete what's gone and plug in new addresses. I did a full Esperanto translation of version 10.2 a short time before Gerald Boyd retired as maintainer and mailed him at least twice in this matter; however, he never responded and apparently did not list it. I also mentioned it on this list in my posting AccMail in Radio (20 Sep 2002) announcing the ROI broadcast with a programero pri retaliro per retposhto. Anyway, before starting to translate you might want to have a look at http://purl.oclc.org/NET/a-reiner/esperanto/accmail/ or http://tinyurl.com/itw; I would certainly not mind if you took over maintenance, and I could easily arrange for the PURL to point to any location you indicate. Samideane via, Albert. ~~~ ACCMAIL Info (automatically generated) ~~ To UNSUBscribe: Send UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To get the ACCMAIL FAQ: Send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and enter only this line in the BODY of the note: send usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email ~
Netlib et al. via e-mail
Saluton, I think this is not yet in the FAQ (and, IMHO, should be): You can access the Netlib repository via e-mail; to quote the FAQ (http://www.netlib.org/misc/faq.html): , |2.1) What is Netlib? |The Netlib repository contains freely available software, documents, |and databases of interest to the numerical, scientific computing, and |other communities. [...] ` , |2.2) How do I retrieve software or documents from Netlib? |Mechanisms include the World Wide Web (WWW), email, ftp, gopher, |xnetlib: | ... | email |Send the message: | send index |to | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |to receive a contents summary and instructions. ` , |2.6) Which sites use the Netlib email server to distribute other types |of software? |A collection of statistical software is available from | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |The TeX User Group distributes TeX-related software from | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |The symbolic algebra system REDUCE is supported by | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Parallel software and information about parallel processing is |available from | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Dozens of other specialized sites also use the processor which can be |found in /netlib/misc/netlib. ` Albert. ~~~ ACCMAIL Info (automatically generated) ~~ To UNSUBscribe: Send UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To get the ACCMAIL FAQ: Send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and enter only this line in the BODY of the note: send usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email ~
