RE: [Acegisecurity-developer] SiteMinder Integeration with spring richclient

2006-01-21 Thread scott



Amad,
    Most client-server apps I've seen require that 
the user authenticates into the *client's* entry point and not at the server's 
entry point, thay way each request to the server includes a pre-authenticated 
principal.  Siteminder assumes that all requests come to the server *first* 
so that it can redirect the browser to a login page as required.  I don't 
think Siteminder is what you want for your rich-client project, and since 
Siteminder is usually backed by an LDAP server, you may wish to authenticate 
directly to that.  I understand that Luke has been working hard on greatly 
improved LDAP code in, and since the last version.
    Scott

  
  
  From: Amad Fida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  acegisecurity-developer@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: 
  [Acegisecurity-developer] SiteMinder Integeration with spring 
  richclient
  
  Thanks, Scott. I didn't realize that this could be such a 
  big problem. As rich client uses spring services to interact with server-side 
  and there is acegi authentication manager in place. And if there was some 
  SiteMinderAuthenticationProvider which can be plugged in here, wouldn't that 
  solve my problem?AmadScott McCrory 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
I've never seen Siteminder used to protect client-side apps because 
we've always used it as a server-side ISAPI filter or Apache 
module.  I'd recommend first checking with Siteminder to see what 
their solutions are for rich client apps, then once you know the mechanism 
of how the user's identity is passed into your app, then you can figure out 
what kind of adapter is necessary.
Good luck!
Scott
Quoting Amad Fida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> All 
->> We have spring rcp based app, which is deployed using Java 
Webstart. > In rich client case there is method level security and 
not the URL > filter based security. And we also have our own login 
dialog which we > present user at startup to 
authenticate.>> I am not sure how do we use SiteMinder 
authentication in this setup?>> One possibility is to 
protected the jnlp link and use the Siteminder > authentication 
filters but once authenticated how does the richclient > knows about 
that authentication to get authorization info?>> Any ideas or 
help will he greatly appreciated.>> 
Amad>>>> 
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Re: [Acegisecurity-developer] SiteMinder Integeration with spring richclient

2006-01-21 Thread Amad Fida
Thanks, Scott. I didn't realize that this could be such a big problem. As rich client uses spring services to interact with server-side and there is acegi authentication manager in place. And if there was some SiteMinderAuthenticationProvider which can be plugged in here, wouldn't that solve my problem?AmadScott McCrory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've never seen Siteminder used to protect client-side apps because we've always used it as a server-side ISAPI filter or Apache module.  I'd recommend first checking with Siteminder to see what their solutions are for rich client apps, then once you know the mechanism of how the user's identity is passed into your app, then you can figure out what kind of adapter is necessary.Good luck!ScottQuoting Amad Fida
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> All ->> We have spring rcp based app, which is deployed using Java Webstart. > In rich client case there is method level security and not the URL > filter based security. And we also have our own login dialog which we > present user at startup to authenticate.>> I am not sure how do we use SiteMinder authentication in this setup?>> One possibility is to protected the jnlp link and use the Siteminder > authentication filters but once authenticated how does the richclient > knows about that authentication to get authorization info?>> Any ideas or help will he greatly appreciated.>> Amad -> Yahoo! Photos> Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, > holidays, whatever. 
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Re: [Acegisecurity-developer] SiteMinder Integeration with spring richclient

2006-01-20 Thread Scott McCrory
I've never seen Siteminder used to protect client-side apps because we've
always used it as a server-side ISAPI filter or Apache module.  I'd recommend
first checking with Siteminder to see what their solutions are for rich client
apps, then once you know the mechanism of how the user's identity is passed
into your app, then you can figure out what kind of adapter is
necessary.Good luck!ScottQuoting Amad Fida
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> All ->> We have spring
rcp based app, which is deployed using Java Webstart. > In rich client
case there is method level security and not the URL > filter based
security. And we also have our own login dialog which we > present
user at startup to authenticate.>> I am not sure how do we
use SiteMinder authentication in this setup?>> One
possibility is to protected the jnlp link and use the Siteminder >
authentication filters but once authenticated how does the richclient > knows about that authentication to get authorization info?>> Any ideas or help will he greatly appreciated.>>
Amad
-> Yahoo! Photos> Ring in the
New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, > holidays,
whatever.