Re: Plasma Active - Ultrabook touchscreen
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:27 PM, hier wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2014, 18:23:44 schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer: > > On Thursday 09 October 2014 15:51:19 Caio Ferreira wrote: > > > Hello gents, > > > > > > I just bought a Lenovo Ideapad Flex 14 Touch-80C4000EBR, which came > with > > > windows 8.1. I'm a linux user since 2002, currently using openSUSE 13.2 > > > (beta) but I was relly exited to see Plasma Active running in this > > > touchscreen ultrabook. > > > > > > I've seen a lot of things about plasma active running in some tablets, > but > > > nothing about touchscreen notebook. I'm just sending this message > because > > > I > > > can see a big "market" on touchscreen notebooks as no other linux DE > works > > > properly with touchscreen. > > > > > > Why not to create a distro with plasma active? (suse studio is a great > > > tool > > > for this purpose) (yes, there is a old one: > > > https://susestudio.com/a/abQj83/plasma-active#discussion) > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Caio Ferreira > > > > Hi Caio, > > (btw, why are you so sure there are no ladies in the Plasma Active team? > ;) > > ) You are right, convertible laptop/tablets such as the Ideapad Flex are > > indeed a prime target for Plasma - though not for Plasma Active alone, > but > > for the combination of Plasma Desktop in the laptop mode and Plasma > Active > > in the tablet mode. > > Plasma Active was explicitly designed for pure touchscreen use, so it's > what > > should be used in tablet mode when the keyboard and touchpad are hidden. > > > > Being able to seamlessly switch between the different shells when the > device > > mode is changed has always been the goal of Plasma. However, in the > Plasma > > 4 times, this didn't work smoothly yet. > > This will change with Plasma 5, though. The thing is that the port of > Plasma > > Active to Plasma 5 is not finished yet. As soon as it's done, it should > > work in any distribution that ships Plasma, so it makes most sense to > pick > > it up at that point. > > > > Another reason why we don't see widespread adoption of Plasma Active in > > regular Linux distributions yet might be that it was developed based on > the > > mobile-focused Mer platform and packaging it in other distributions > turned > > out not to be trivial. This will change with the Plasma 5 version, too, > > since at that point Plasma Active is just a regular shell package like > > Plasma Desktop. > > > > So, tl;dr : If you want the optimal experience with Plasma on your > > convertible, either wait for the port to Plasma 5 or help make it happen > > faster by contributing code / money / whatever to its development ;) > > > > Best, > > Thomas > > > > > > ___ > > Active mailing list > > Active@kde.org > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active > Very good news Thomas > > Cheers > > Wolfgang > This is indeed an important area to investigate. I was discussing with David (another Plasma devel) this week that maybe we should get a laptop of those for testing. It's kind of hard to push this kind of things without the hardware... ;) Either way, the infrastructure is there, now it just needs the love. Cheers! Aleix ___ Active mailing list Active@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active
Re: Plasma Active - Ultrabook touchscreen
Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2014, 18:23:44 schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer: > On Thursday 09 October 2014 15:51:19 Caio Ferreira wrote: > > Hello gents, > > > > I just bought a Lenovo Ideapad Flex 14 Touch-80C4000EBR, which came with > > windows 8.1. I'm a linux user since 2002, currently using openSUSE 13.2 > > (beta) but I was relly exited to see Plasma Active running in this > > touchscreen ultrabook. > > > > I've seen a lot of things about plasma active running in some tablets, but > > nothing about touchscreen notebook. I'm just sending this message because > > I > > can see a big "market" on touchscreen notebooks as no other linux DE works > > properly with touchscreen. > > > > Why not to create a distro with plasma active? (suse studio is a great > > tool > > for this purpose) (yes, there is a old one: > > https://susestudio.com/a/abQj83/plasma-active#discussion) > > > > Best regards, > > > > Caio Ferreira > > Hi Caio, > (btw, why are you so sure there are no ladies in the Plasma Active team? ;) > ) You are right, convertible laptop/tablets such as the Ideapad Flex are > indeed a prime target for Plasma - though not for Plasma Active alone, but > for the combination of Plasma Desktop in the laptop mode and Plasma Active > in the tablet mode. > Plasma Active was explicitly designed for pure touchscreen use, so it's what > should be used in tablet mode when the keyboard and touchpad are hidden. > > Being able to seamlessly switch between the different shells when the device > mode is changed has always been the goal of Plasma. However, in the Plasma > 4 times, this didn't work smoothly yet. > This will change with Plasma 5, though. The thing is that the port of Plasma > Active to Plasma 5 is not finished yet. As soon as it's done, it should > work in any distribution that ships Plasma, so it makes most sense to pick > it up at that point. > > Another reason why we don't see widespread adoption of Plasma Active in > regular Linux distributions yet might be that it was developed based on the > mobile-focused Mer platform and packaging it in other distributions turned > out not to be trivial. This will change with the Plasma 5 version, too, > since at that point Plasma Active is just a regular shell package like > Plasma Desktop. > > So, tl;dr : If you want the optimal experience with Plasma on your > convertible, either wait for the port to Plasma 5 or help make it happen > faster by contributing code / money / whatever to its development ;) > > Best, > Thomas > > > ___ > Active mailing list > Active@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active Very good news Thomas Cheers Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Romey Krokusstraße 37 47249 Duisburg Bitte Anhänge nur in freien Formaten. Die Nachricht ist signiert, der öffentliche Schlüssel wird auf Anfrage zugeleitet. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Active mailing list Active@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active
Re: Plasma Active - Ultrabook touchscreen
On Thursday 09 October 2014 15:51:19 Caio Ferreira wrote: > Hello gents, > I just bought a Lenovo Ideapad Flex 14 Touch-80C4000EBR, which came with > windows 8.1. I'm a linux user since 2002, currently using openSUSE 13.2 > (beta) but I was relly exited to see Plasma Active running in this > touchscreen ultrabook. > > I've seen a lot of things about plasma active running in some tablets, but > nothing about touchscreen notebook. I'm just sending this message because I > can see a big "market" on touchscreen notebooks as no other linux DE works > properly with touchscreen. > Why not to create a distro with plasma active? (suse studio is a great tool > for this purpose) (yes, there is a old one: > https://susestudio.com/a/abQj83/plasma-active#discussion) > > Best regards, > > Caio Ferreira Hi Caio, (btw, why are you so sure there are no ladies in the Plasma Active team? ;) ) You are right, convertible laptop/tablets such as the Ideapad Flex are indeed a prime target for Plasma - though not for Plasma Active alone, but for the combination of Plasma Desktop in the laptop mode and Plasma Active in the tablet mode. Plasma Active was explicitly designed for pure touchscreen use, so it's what should be used in tablet mode when the keyboard and touchpad are hidden. Being able to seamlessly switch between the different shells when the device mode is changed has always been the goal of Plasma. However, in the Plasma 4 times, this didn't work smoothly yet. This will change with Plasma 5, though. The thing is that the port of Plasma Active to Plasma 5 is not finished yet. As soon as it's done, it should work in any distribution that ships Plasma, so it makes most sense to pick it up at that point. Another reason why we don't see widespread adoption of Plasma Active in regular Linux distributions yet might be that it was developed based on the mobile-focused Mer platform and packaging it in other distributions turned out not to be trivial. This will change with the Plasma 5 version, too, since at that point Plasma Active is just a regular shell package like Plasma Desktop. So, tl;dr : If you want the optimal experience with Plasma on your convertible, either wait for the port to Plasma 5 or help make it happen faster by contributing code / money / whatever to its development ;) Best, Thomas ___ Active mailing list Active@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active
Re: Plasma Active - Ultrabook touchscreen
Hallo what version of Plasma Active did you run and how did you install it? Cheers Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Romey Krokusstraße 37 47249 Duisburg Bitte Anhänge nur in freien Formaten. Die Nachricht ist signiert, der öffentliche Schlüssel wird auf Anfrage zugeleitet. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Active mailing list Active@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active
Plasma Active - Ultrabook touchscreen
Hello gents, I just bought a Lenovo Ideapad Flex 14 Touch-80C4000EBR, which came with windows 8.1. I'm a linux user since 2002, currently using openSUSE 13.2 (beta) but I was relly exited to see Plasma Active running in this touchscreen ultrabook. I've seen a lot of things about plasma active running in some tablets, but nothing about touchscreen notebook. I'm just sending this message because I can see a big "market" on touchscreen notebooks as no other linux DE works properly with touchscreen. Why not to create a distro with plasma active? (suse studio is a great tool for this purpose) (yes, there is a old one: https://susestudio.com/a/abQj83/plasma-active#discussion) Best regards, Caio Ferreira ___ Active mailing list Active@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active
