Re: Problems creating image for Pandaboard

[martin brook]

Martin Hi,

It looks like udisks

  Conflicts: kernel < 2.6.26

and kernel-adaptation-pandaboard

  Provides:   kernel = %{kernel_version}

but it does not define kernel_version.

I've branched the package at
http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/vgrade:/branches:/nemo:/devel:/hw:/ti:/omap4:/pandaboard/latest_armv7hl/armv7hl/


this one now provides kernel > 2.6.26

You can add this repo for now and I have submitted the change to nemo:devel

BR

vgrade




On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Martin Gräßlin  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to build an image for my PandaBoard in Mer-SDK (VirtualBox),
> but
> so far I'm failing. I created a ks file using the plasma-active-kickstarter
> repository and the command from the README.
>
> But when trying to create the image I get:
> mic 0.14 (Mer 0.2011 Mer)
> Info: Retrieving repo metadata:
> Info: Retrieving repomd.xml ... DONE
> Info: Refreshing repository: mer-core ...
> Info: Refreshing repository: mer-core-debug ...
> Info: Refreshing repository: mer-updates ...
> Info: Refreshing repository: mer-tools ...
> Info: Refreshing repository: kde-mw ...
> Info: Refreshing repository: kde-apps ...
> Info: Refreshing repository: mer-qt ...
> Info: Refreshing repository: nemo-mw ...
> Info: Refreshing repository: nemo-hw-pandaboard ...
> Info: Refreshing repository: kde-ux ...
> Info: zypp architecture is 
> Warning: repo problem:
> kde-workspace-4.10.2+git20130423.200159-1.8.1.armv7hl
> requires udisks, but this requirement cannot be provided, uninstallable
> providers: udisks-1.0.4-1.1.2.armv7hl[kde-mw]
> Warning: repo problem: pvr-omap4-kernel-1.9.0.7.1.1-1.1.3.armv7hl requires
> kernel-adaptation-pandaboard, but this requirement cannot be provided,
> uninstallable providers: kernel-adaptation-
> pandaboard-3.4.27~1489.22-1.1.3.armv7hl[nemo-hw-pandaboard]
>
> Error : found 2 resolver problem, abort!
>
> If I use yum I get a little bit better information:
> Error : Failed to build transaction : udisks conflicts with
> kernel-
> adaptation-pandaboard
>
> Creating the Nemo image from
>
> https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Omap4/Pandaboard/nemo-armv7hl-pandaboard-rnd.ksworks.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Cheers
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Re: [Kde-pim] Kontact Touch GSOC Project - mentor needed

[martin brook]

Sebas Hi,

This was pointed out to me recently to shorten the edit/compile/deploy cycle

http://thpmaemo.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/mp3-playback-in-nemo-mobile-on-n950.html

BR

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On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Sebastian Kügler  wrote:

> On Thursday, April 11, 2013 13:55:27 Michael Bohlender wrote:
> > I did some minor things for PA with PlasmaComponets already and feel
> > relatively comfortable using it. The reason I suggested this approach is,
> > that it allows me to got through a lot of design ideas with my Co Mentor.
> > Otherwise testing if the UI works on Tablet will be hard and I have no
> Idea
> > how to compile stuff for my ARM based Nexus 7. Waiting for our merproject
> > build servers to compile stuff would also be quiet time consuming. I
> > consider the UX design/rework the main part of my project and like to
> > experiment a lot during the mockup phase.
>
> That's not a problem. OBS can do cross-builds also on your local machine.
> If
> you want to shorten the cycles, you can even script most of this process,
> roughly:
>
> - reroll tarball into your OBS checkout
> - rebuild using osc build
> - scp the resulting package over to your device
> - use ssh to install the package in your device
>
> This will cut down the develop-testing cycles quite a bit, and you should
> be
> able to do that with just one script on your host.
>
> If you're doing most of the work in QML, you can even go further and just
> rsync your changed qml files into the install dir of the device, though you
> need to be a bit careful with that, obviously.
>
> Cheers,
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Re: wget doesn't found?

[martin brook]

Or
https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=wget&project=nemo%3Atesting%3Aapps


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:29 PM, martin brook  wrote:

> Give curl a try
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Sascha Manns wrote:
>
>> Hello list,
>>
>> i have just a little question.
>> Actually i'm writing a small Shellscript for simplify the Download and
>> Installation of Skype in Plasma Active.
>> Inside the Script i'm using wget for downloading. But now i've seen that
>> in
>> the PA3 BasysKom Image aren't available wget. And i haven't found it in
>> other
>> Mer Repositories.
>> Does anyone knows more?
>>
>> cu Sascha
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Re: wget doesn't found?

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Give curl a try


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Sascha Manns  wrote:

> Hello list,
>
> i have just a little question.
> Actually i'm writing a small Shellscript for simplify the Download and
> Installation of Skype in Plasma Active.
> Inside the Script i'm using wget for downloading. But now i've seen that in
> the PA3 BasysKom Image aren't available wget. And i haven't found it in
> other
> Mer Repositories.
> Does anyone knows more?
>
> cu Sascha
> --
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Re: Plasma Media Center IRC meeting

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https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=plasma-mediacenter&project=home%3Alamarque

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer  wrote:
> On Wednesday 28 November 2012 00:16:40 Sinny Kumari wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I hope many of the people have tried Plasma Media Center till now, if not
>> yet then try it out ( you can also follow my blog
>> http://sinny.in/node/25for the same).
>
> Would it be possible to package PMC on OBS as well? I think it's a pretty
> important application for Plasma Active and it would be nice if we were able
> to follow its development without building it ourselves each time...
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MeeGo OBS Replacement

[martin brook]

Hi ,

Find below the MOM for the 10 July Meeting

Minutes:
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-07-10-16.00.html
Minutes (text):
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-07-10-16.00.txt
Log:
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-07-10-16.00.log.html

Agenda for 24th July Meeting in #mer-meeting at 16:00 UTC

1, Mer Legal Entity Progres
2. Feedback on Maemo OBS progress, Harmatten, Freemantle targets.
Hildon Foundation
3. Any new topics

BR

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Re: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS

[martin brook]

Hi All,

Find below the MOM for the 10 July Meeting

Minutes:
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-07-10-16.00.html
Minutes (text):
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-07-10-16.00.txt
Log:
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-07-10-16.00.log.html

We will meet again on 24th July 17:00 UTC in #mer-meeting, I will issue an
agenda nearer the time.

If you want to donate to the project please get in touch.

BR

vgrade

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:25 PM, martin brook  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Sorry for the lack of action on this topic since the last meeting, my time
> is not as free as it once was but I will try to get things moving again.
>
> Lets set a date of Tuesday 10th July at 16:00 UTC in mer-meeting.
>
> Agenda
>
>
> 1. Mer NFP Status including progress on Donation/Sponsorship Procedure
> 2, Mer Legal Entity Progres
> 3. Feedback on Maemo OBS progress, Harmatten, Freemantle targets
> 4. Any new topics
>
> BR
>
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Re: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS

[martin brook]

Hi All,

Sorry for the lack of action on this topic since the last meeting, my time
is not as free as it once was but I will try to get things moving again.

Lets set a date of Tuesday 10th July at 16:00 UTC in mer-meeting.

Agenda

1. Mer NFP Status including progress on Donation/Sponsorship Procedure
2, Mer Legal Entity Progres
3. Feedback on Maemo OBS progress, Harmatten, Freemantle targets
4. Any new topics

BR

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Re: List of problems with Plasma Active on Mer

[martin brook]

Marco Hi,

Carsten has been working on some architecture pages on the wiki which may
help here,

http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Architecture

BR

vgrade


On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Marco Martin  wrote:

> On Thursday 31 May 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:13:30 martin brook wrote:
> > > Just a reminder that Mer does not include hardware adaptations, so
> kernel
> > > and graphics drivers are out of scope of that project.
> > >
> > > Nemo does aim to support an x86 adaptation.
> >
> > imho, this highlights a scoping error for mer. here's why:
> >
> > * mer doesn't do hardware adaptation.
> > * projects on top of mer do
> > * there are multiple projects on top of mer, all of which need
> adaptations
> > * there is a finite number of common hardware targets
> >
> > this leads to multiple projects working on the same hardware adaptations
> > without a good place to collaborate.
>
> on top of that, add the fact that everybody is quite confused where mer
> stops
> and nemo begins also tells something (i still didn't understood it 100%)
>
> if something becomes very difficult to communicate correctly, maybe there
> is
> some underlying problem in how things are structured...
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Fwd: List of problems with Plasma Active on Mer

[martin brook]

Guys Hi,

The Plasma Active project has identified a number of issues with their Mer
based build which means they are still developing the MeeGo based build.
 This is not what the guys want to do ideally so I volunteered to get a
list of the blocking issues and try and get some resources working on them.

It became apparent from the list that a number of them were related to the
x86 hardware adaptation (kernel and graphics drivers) issues.  Just to
remind people of the scope of Mer I posted the following reminder to the
active list and the reply from Aaron.

>From my view there is a place for the x86 adaptations and this is in the
Nemo project and Mer people contribute there.  Work goes on in COBS and in
the http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace  on other
adaptations including Raspberry Pi and Vivaldi.

In my view its the number of resources available to work these adaptations
which is the problem just as in all software development projects I've been
involved in.

BR

vgrade

-- Forwarded message --
From: Aaron J. Seigo 
Date: Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: List of problems with Plasma Active on Mer
To: active@kde.org


On Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:13:30 martin brook wrote:
> Just a reminder that Mer does not include hardware adaptations, so kernel
> and graphics drivers are out of scope of that project.
>
> Nemo does aim to support an x86 adaptation.

imho, this highlights a scoping error for mer. here's why:

* mer doesn't do hardware adaptation.
* projects on top of mer do
* there are multiple projects on top of mer, all of which need adaptations
* there is a finite number of common hardware targets

this leads to multiple projects working on the same hardware adaptations
without a good place to collaborate.

this conflicts with the idea that mer is a place to collaborate on the OS
layer.

this feels a lot like "we're doing it wrong".

possible solutions, of varying benefit, that occur to me:

* mer based projects (e.g. nemo, PA, etc.) pay attention to what each other
is
doing for hardware adaptation and collaborate when possible.

this does not scale well and ad-hoc cooperations are messy and error prone.

* mer provides a place for hosting hardware adaptations. this can be adjunct
to the share core that is mer, but kept within the same workflow and
collaboration tools that already exist

this would scale well and give a natural place to collaborate. apparently
mer
does not see the need for this or has concerns (legal?) about $SOMETHING

* mer based projects create a place to collaborate on hardware adaptations
outside of mer.

this will make mer a hell of a lot less influential and useful. which is the
opposite of what mer should be trying to do. i understand avoiding UI stack
involvement, if only because it is obvious and evident that there are not
only
multiple divergent UI pathways which are equally valid and unlikely to be
shared via mer core, but mer core itself does not imply a UI layer at all.

mer core DOES imply hardware adaptation, however. without that it is not
useful.


so if someone can explain to me why mer is not ammenable to providing places
for projects to work on these hardware enablement projects in a central
place,
that'd be appreciated.

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Re: List of problems with Plasma Active on Mer

[martin brook]

Thanks Guys for providing the list.

Just a reminder that Mer does not include hardware adaptations, so kernel
and graphics drivers are out of scope of that project.

Nemo does aim to support an x86 adaptation.

BR

vgrade


On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Marco Martin  wrote:

> On Wednesday 30 May 2012, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> >
> > 4. The lock screen (and boot splash screen) are often black unless some
> > repainting due to moving things happens. This may be an old bug
> reappearing
> > ( https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=291381 ).
>
> yes i seen that as well and on different platforms, maybe trying to play
> with
> window flags a bit could solve it, but seems some repainting issue down in
> qgraphicsview
>
> > 5. Whenever Maliit is open, a mouse cursor is shown (not sure if this is
> > Mer- specific because I could not get Maliit to work on Meego yet, see
> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300675 )
>
> this should be a profile.d script that wasn't executing, hopefully on the
> next
> repo rebuild should be fixed
>
> > 6. When shutting down or rebooting, after X has been shut down, some
> kernel
> > messages are shown and it takes several minutes until the device finally
> > powers off / reboots
>
> there seems a lot of power management problems with the mer x86 kernel :/
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Re: Maliit, Plasma Active and Mer

[martin brook]

Aaron/Thomas Hi,

Thomas, we spoke about this on IRC over the weekend an I took an action to
make a list of the issues in the way of Mer based Plasma Active builds and
to coordinate any resources we can get to fixing them.

Could you any anyone else with issues please reply with a ordered list of
Mer/Nemo/
Plasma Active/Maliit bugs which are holding up progress?  If you have a
bugzilla ref please include it.

Thanks

BR

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Re: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS

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Hi Guys,

As mentioned below here is the Agenda for the next meeting in #mer-meeting
at 16:00 UTC on 15 May

1. Mer NFP Status including progress on Donation/Sponsorship Procedures
2, Legal Entity Progress
3, Feedback on Maemo OBS progress

BR

vgrade

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 5:55 PM, martin brook <
martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> Thanks for your time at the meeting and you can find Minutes and the full
> log below.
>
>  Minutes:
> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-24-16.00.html
>  Minutes (text):
> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-24-16.00.txt
>  Log:
> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-24-16.00.log.html
>
> I'll schedule another get together on 15 May at 16:00 UTC , I'll send out
> an email nearer the time and if anyone wants to donate please get in touch,
> see http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Donation_Policy
>
> BR
>
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>
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:33 PM, martin brook <
> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As mentioned below here is the Agenda for the next meeting in
>> #mer-meeting at 16:00 UTC on 24 April
>>
>> 1. Mer NFP Status including progress on Donation/Sponsorship Procedures
>> 2, Legal Entity Progress
>> 3, Feedback from Maemo OBS discussions
>>
>> If you would like to add anything to the agenda please let me know.
>>
>> BR
>>
>> vgrade
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:07 PM, martin brook <
>> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time at the meeting and you can find Minutes and the
>>> full log below.
>>>
>>> Minutes:
>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.html
>>> Minutes (text):
>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.txt
>>> Log:
>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.log.html
>>>
>>> I'll schedule another get together on 24 April at 16:00 UTC , I'll send
>>> out an email nearer the time and if anyone wants to sponsor/donate please
>>> get in touch.
>>>
>>> BR
>>>
>>> vgrade
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:03 PM, martin brook <
>>> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As mentioned below here is the Agenda for the next meeting in
>>>> #mer-meeting at 16:00 UTC on 10 April
>>>>
>>>> 1. Current status of Maemo community OBS
>>>> 2. Mer NFP Status including progress on Donation/Sponsorship Procedures
>>>> 3, Legal Entity Progress
>>>> 4. Plasma Active Update on proposed plans for new Repos
>>>> 5, Harmattan/Fremantle Targets
>>>>
>>>> If you would like to add anything to the agenda please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> BR
>>>>
>>>> vgrade
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM, martin brook <
>>>> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your time at the meeting and you can find Minutes and the
>>>>> full log below.
>>>>>
>>>>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 17:14:38 2012 UTC.
>>>>>  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings. 
>>>>> (v 0.1.4)
>>>>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Minutes:
>>>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.html
>>>>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Minutes (text):
>>>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.txt
>>>>>  [17:14] <@MerBot> Log:
>>>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.log.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I was thinking of scheduling another get together on 10 April at 16:00
>>>>> UTC , I'll send out an email nearer the time and if anyone wants to
>>>>> sponsor/donate please get in touch.
>>>>>
>>>>> BR
>>>>>
>>>>> vgrade
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>>>> From: martin brook 
>>>>>  Date: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM
>>>>> Subject: Fwd: Replacement for MeeGo Community 

Re: Questions about building plasma active

[martin brook]

Jonathon, good

Next I think we need to update the Plasma Active roosfs to a more recent
and stable build.

Have a look at
http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_arm_install_archive/archos-generation-9/?C=M;O=D
and take a recent testing image as your base.

Just check the fstab root matches your sdcard device.

Re Hardware acceleration you need to match the userspace drivers with your
kernel source.

Take a look at the nVidia Tegra Developer site for their L4Tegra (linux for
tegra releases)

BR

vgrade

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Jonathan Schultz wrote:

> Hi Martin.
>
>  Good progress.
>>
>
> Indeed. And now we have come further.
>
>
>  Try configuring X to use a simple framebuffer device instead of
>> tegra_drv.so
>>
>
> OK, so now we have booted. :)
>
> I get an immediate warning that there is no power management backend.
>
> Then a plasma workspace crash with signal: Aborted(6) If I go to the
> 'Developer information' tab, there is no information but a message that I
> need to install gdb.
>
> When I close that window, the screen goes blank, though X is still alive
> and the mouse cursor follows my finger on the screen.
>
> Do I take it from your comments about tegra_drv that you have got video
> acceleration working on the tegra, but in userspace?
>
> Cheers,
> Jonathan
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Re: Questions about building plasma active

[martin brook]

Jonathon Hi,

Good progress.

What you are seeing now is probably a mismatch between the kernel and
userspace tegra video bits and pieces.

Try configuring X to use a simple framebuffer device instead of
tegra_drv.so

BR

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On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Jonathan Schultz wrote:

> Many thanks for the input.
>
>
>  Mer Plasma Active builds use systemd as their init system and the above
>> error looks like you don't have the required kernel options set in your
>> kernel config to satisfy systemd.
>>
>
> You were right on there.
>
>
>  See 
> http://wiki.merproject.org/**wiki/Adaptation_Guidefor
>  options you
>> need in your kernel.
>>
>
> So now it gets a lot further into the boot process.
>
> I see one suspicious message:
>
>  systemd-logind.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1
>> Starting Login Service failed, see 'systemctl status
>> systemd-logind.service for details.
>>
>
> I see no way to get open a shell to look for those details.
>
> Then a few lines down:
>
>  starting X server with "/usr/bin/Xorg :0 -nolisten tcp -noreset -auth
>> /home/mer/.Xauthority vt1"
>>
>
> and there it freezes, presumably the X server fails to start.
>
> If I take the SD card out and look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log I see it ends
> with:
>
>  [36.997] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for tegra
>> [36.997] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/**tegra_drv.so
>> [36.997] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card
>> support
>>
>
> Which looks like more kernel stuff, but nothing I can understand.
>
> Any further suggestions?
>
> Cheers,
> Jonathan
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Re: Questions about building plasma active

[martin brook]

Jonathan Hi,

'Failed to mount /dev: No such device'

Mer Plasma Active builds use systemd as their init system and the above
error looks like you don't have the required kernel options set in your
kernel config to satisfy systemd.

See http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide for options you need
in your kernel.

BR

vgrade


On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Jonathan Schultz wrote:

> Sometimes on first boot the screeh becomes black for several minutes
>> while nepomuk is indexing the file system. If there is disk activity you
>> should wait (up to 7 minutes) and see if the desktop appears.
>>
>
> I cannot tell whether there is disk activity as it's all solid state. :)
>
> I'm not sure whether I should have been getting console output on boot. I
> tried it with liv2's kernel 
> https://github.com/LIV2/LIV2-**Xoom-GNU(which
>  works getting debian on the xoom) and the boot hung at:
>
> > 'Failed to mount /dev: No such device'
>
> so I presume there is some kernel incompatibility going on.
>
>
>  I do not own an Arm tablet to test the procedure myself. You should try
>> wainting 10 minutes to see if the homescreen appears.
>>
>
> Is there somewhere to go to talk to people doing arm builds?
>
>
>  All our builds are rpm based but Kubuntu already packs Plasma Active:
>>
>
> Ah, that's interesting. I see they are only doing i386 builds for the
> moment but maybe I can get on board that project.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jonathan
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Re: [mer-general] educazionik on mer

[martin brook]

Nicola Hi,

Nice to see some application work going on.

Copying to active mailing list.

BR

vgrade


On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Nicola De Filippo <
nic...@nicoladefilippo.it> wrote:

> Hi,
> FYI among other things i admin/develop "notorious" (in italy) open source
> educational project or italian primary school, today i have uploaded first
> simple video
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Z1lOy5ygriw
>
> first fought against windows, now against ipad and android.
>
>  Nicola (niqt)
>
>
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Re: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS

[martin brook]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for your time at the meeting and you can find Minutes and the full
log below.

 Minutes:
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-24-16.00.html
 Minutes (text):
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-24-16.00.txt
 Log:
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-24-16.00.log.html

I'll schedule another get together on 15 May at 16:00 UTC , I'll send out
an email nearer the time and if anyone wants to donate please get in touch,
see http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Donation_Policy

BR

vgrade

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:33 PM, martin brook <
martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As mentioned below here is the Agenda for the next meeting in #mer-meeting
> at 16:00 UTC on 24 April
>
> 1. Mer NFP Status including progress on Donation/Sponsorship Procedures
> 2, Legal Entity Progress
> 3, Feedback from Maemo OBS discussions
>
> If you would like to add anything to the agenda please let me know.
>
> BR
>
> vgrade
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:07 PM, martin brook <
> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Thanks for your time at the meeting and you can find Minutes and the full
>> log below.
>>
>> Minutes:
>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.html
>> Minutes (text):
>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.txt
>> Log:
>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.log.html
>>
>> I'll schedule another get together on 24 April at 16:00 UTC , I'll send
>> out an email nearer the time and if anyone wants to sponsor/donate please
>> get in touch.
>>
>> BR
>>
>> vgrade
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:03 PM, martin brook <
>> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As mentioned below here is the Agenda for the next meeting in
>>> #mer-meeting at 16:00 UTC on 10 April
>>>
>>> 1. Current status of Maemo community OBS
>>> 2. Mer NFP Status including progress on Donation/Sponsorship Procedures
>>> 3, Legal Entity Progress
>>> 4. Plasma Active Update on proposed plans for new Repos
>>> 5, Harmattan/Fremantle Targets
>>>
>>> If you would like to add anything to the agenda please let me know.
>>>
>>> BR
>>>
>>> vgrade
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM, martin brook <
>>> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your time at the meeting and you can find Minutes and the
>>>> full log below.
>>>>
>>>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 17:14:38 2012 UTC.
>>>>  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings. (v 
>>>> 0.1.4)
>>>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Minutes:
>>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.html
>>>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Minutes (text):
>>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.txt
>>>>  [17:14] <@MerBot> Log:
>>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.log.html
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking of scheduling another get together on 10 April at 16:00
>>>> UTC , I'll send out an email nearer the time and if anyone wants to
>>>> sponsor/donate please get in touch.
>>>>
>>>> BR
>>>>
>>>> vgrade
>>>>
>>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>>> From: martin brook 
>>>>  Date: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM
>>>> Subject: Fwd: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS
>>>> To: active@kde.org, mer-gene...@lists.merproject.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Guys Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Just as a reminder and to clarify the channel this meeting is scheduled
>>>> to happen in #mer-meeting IRC at 16:00 UTC today.
>>>>
>>>> BR
>>>>
>>>> vgrade
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>>> From: martin brook 
>>>> Date: Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS
>>>> To: active@kde.org, mer-gene...@lists.merproject.org
>>>> Cc: Carsten Munk , David Greaves <
>>>> da...@dgreaves.com>, "Aaron J. Se

Re: git repo for kickstarts

[martin brook]

Marco Hi,

The kickstarts can be made using the kickstarter tool from yaml
descriptions so it may be possible to have common parts which would include
the lists of Plasma Active packages and device specific parts.

At least for Mer see  http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Kickstarter

BR

vgrade


On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Marco Martin  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> this is mostly for an opinion, still didn't do any of this...
> right now to build meego and mer images we have several kickstart files
> spreaded around, for different devices and for different repositories
> (devel,
> testing, releases)
>
> I think they should be in a git repository, with files always updated to
> the
> last officially built image, there are several options how to manage the
> files:
> * each combo repo version/device would be a different file, so there would
> be
> mer-x86-testing.ks meego-x86-devel.ks mer-archos-devel.ks etc
> * each device has a different file, but testing and devel version are
> branches
> of the git repo
> * each testing/devel version is a different file, but different devices are
> branches
>
> I'm kinda leaning for option 2, but even without using branches at all
> would
> be less mess than now.
> opinions? comments?
>
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Re: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS

[martin brook]

Rob Hi,

Thanks for the update and I will add your comments below to the meeting
minutes at agenda item 3.

BR

vgrade


On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:01 PM, robert bauer  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I will probably be unable to attend the meeting.
>
> At the last meeting, I indicated that Maemo would try to address the topic
> of a community OBS and provide guidance.  We have been able to do that.  We
> had a Maemo Council meeting on the topic, and I am pleased to say that the
> general consensus was to move forward with it.  It seems that we have the
> support of Nokia in this effort as well.  We have already formed a Task
> Force as well to handle technical aspects of the OBS, and it had its
> first meeting on #maemo-meeting earlier today.  A preliminary wiki page is
> up at  http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_OBS#Goals
>
> Br,
> Rob (SD69)
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 2:33 PM, martin brook <
> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As mentioned below here is the Agenda for the next meeting in
>> #mer-meeting at 16:00 UTC on 24 April
>>
>>  1. Mer NFP Status including progress on Donation/Sponsorship Procedures
>> 2, Legal Entity Progress
>> 3, Feedback from Maemo OBS discussions
>>
>> If you would like to add anything to the agenda please let me know.
>>
>> BR
>>
>> vgrade
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:07 PM, martin brook <
>> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time at the meeting and you can find Minutes and the
>>> full log below.
>>>
>>> Minutes:
>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.html
>>> Minutes (text):
>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.txt
>>> Log:
>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.log.html
>>>
>>> I'll schedule another get together on 24 April at 16:00 UTC , I'll send
>>> out an email nearer the time and if anyone wants to sponsor/donate please
>>> get in touch.
>>>
>>> BR
>>>
>>> vgrade
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:03 PM, martin brook <
>>> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As mentioned below here is the Agenda for the next meeting in
>>>> #mer-meeting at 16:00 UTC on 10 April
>>>>
>>>>  1. Current status of Maemo community OBS
>>>> 2. Mer NFP Status including progress on Donation/Sponsorship Procedures
>>>> 3, Legal Entity Progress
>>>> 4. Plasma Active Update on proposed plans for new Repos
>>>> 5, Harmattan/Fremantle Targets
>>>>
>>>> If you would like to add anything to the agenda please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> BR
>>>>
>>>> vgrade
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM, martin brook <
>>>> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your time at the meeting and you can find Minutes and the
>>>>> full log below.
>>>>>
>>>>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 17:14:38 2012 UTC.
>>>>>  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings. 
>>>>> (v 0.1.4)
>>>>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Minutes:
>>>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.html
>>>>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Minutes (text):
>>>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.txt
>>>>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Log:
>>>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.log.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I was thinking of scheduling another get together on 10 April at 16:00
>>>>> UTC , I'll send out an email nearer the time and if anyone wants to
>>>>> sponsor/donate please get in touch.
>>>>>
>>>>> BR
>>>>>
>>>>> vgrade
>>>>>
>>>>>  -- Forwarded message --
>>>>> From: martin brook 
>>>>>  Date: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM
>>>>> Subject: Fwd: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS
>>>>> To: active@kde.org, mer-gene...@lists.merproject.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>&

Re: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS

[martin brook]

Hi,

As mentioned below here is the Agenda for the next meeting in #mer-meeting
at 16:00 UTC on 24 April

1. Mer NFP Status including progress on Donation/Sponsorship Procedures
2, Legal Entity Progress
3, Feedback from Maemo OBS discussions

If you would like to add anything to the agenda please let me know.

BR

vgrade

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:07 PM, martin brook <
martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> Thanks for your time at the meeting and you can find Minutes and the full
> log below.
>
> Minutes:
> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.html
> Minutes (text):
> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.txt
> Log:
> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.log.html
>
> I'll schedule another get together on 24 April at 16:00 UTC , I'll send
> out an email nearer the time and if anyone wants to sponsor/donate please
> get in touch.
>
> BR
>
> vgrade
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:03 PM, martin brook <
> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As mentioned below here is the Agenda for the next meeting in
>> #mer-meeting at 16:00 UTC on 10 April
>>
>> 1. Current status of Maemo community OBS
>> 2. Mer NFP Status including progress on Donation/Sponsorship Procedures
>> 3, Legal Entity Progress
>> 4. Plasma Active Update on proposed plans for new Repos
>> 5, Harmattan/Fremantle Targets
>>
>> If you would like to add anything to the agenda please let me know.
>>
>> BR
>>
>> vgrade
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM, martin brook <
>> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time at the meeting and you can find Minutes and the
>>> full log below.
>>>
>>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 17:14:38 2012 UTC.
>>>  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings. (v 
>>> 0.1.4)
>>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Minutes:
>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.html
>>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Minutes (text):
>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.txt
>>>  [17:14] <@MerBot> Log:
>>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.log.html
>>>
>>> I was thinking of scheduling another get together on 10 April at 16:00
>>> UTC , I'll send out an email nearer the time and if anyone wants to
>>> sponsor/donate please get in touch.
>>>
>>> BR
>>>
>>> vgrade
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: martin brook 
>>>  Date: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM
>>> Subject: Fwd: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS
>>> To: active@kde.org, mer-gene...@lists.merproject.org
>>>
>>>
>>> Guys Hi,
>>>
>>> Just as a reminder and to clarify the channel this meeting is scheduled
>>> to happen in #mer-meeting IRC at 16:00 UTC today.
>>>
>>> BR
>>>
>>> vgrade
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: martin brook 
>>> Date: Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS
>>> To: active@kde.org, mer-gene...@lists.merproject.org
>>> Cc: Carsten Munk , David Greaves <
>>> da...@dgreaves.com>, "Aaron J. Seigo" , Sebastian
>>> Kügler , Maurice de la Ferte 
>>>
>>>
>>> Guys Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for filling in your availabilities in doodle (
>>> http://doodle.com/zzk4pi7cphwub34u) it looks like 16:00 UTC on Tuesday
>>> 20th March is a good time for everyone.
>>>
>>> I posted an outline agenda below and I would hope we can all have a
>>> productive debate on the way forward from here so please come armed with as
>>> much detail you think might be useful.
>>>
>>> The meeting is open to all and I would welcome anyone else to attend.
>>>
>>> BR
>>>
>>> vgrade
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM, martin brook <
>>> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have been talking to a couple of people about where we are with the
>>>> replacement of the MeeGo community OBS and would like to get interested
>>>> parties around the table to discuss
>>>>
>>>> 1. Current status of MeeGo community OBS
>>>> 2, Current status of infra at openslx
>>>> 3. Current status of infra at Mer Project
>>>> 4, Ways forward from here in providing a capable OBS for use by the
>>>> community
>>>>
>>>> If you are interested in joining the discussions please indicate your
>>>> preferred time at the following link.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.doodle.com/zzk4pi7cphwub34u
>>>>
>>>> BR
>>>>
>>>> Martin Brook (vgrade)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS

[martin brook]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for your time at the meeting and you can find Minutes and the full
log below.

Minutes:
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.html
Minutes (text):
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.txt
Log:
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-04-10-16.00.log.html

I'll schedule another get together on 24 April at 16:00 UTC , I'll send out
an email nearer the time and if anyone wants to sponsor/donate please get
in touch.

BR

vgrade


On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:03 PM, martin brook  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As mentioned below here is the Agenda for the next meeting in #mer-meeting
> at 16:00 UTC on 10 April
>
> 1. Current status of Maemo community OBS
> 2. Mer NFP Status including progress on Donation/Sponsorship Procedures
> 3, Legal Entity Progress
> 4. Plasma Active Update on proposed plans for new Repos
> 5, Harmattan/Fremantle Targets
>
> If you would like to add anything to the agenda please let me know.
>
> BR
>
> vgrade
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM, martin brook <
> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Thanks for your time at the meeting and you can find Minutes and the full
>> log below.
>>
>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 17:14:38 2012 UTC.
>>  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings .
>> (v 0.1.4)
>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Minutes:
>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.html
>> [17:14] <@MerBot> Minutes (text):
>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.txt
>>  [17:14] <@MerBot> Log:
>> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.log.html
>>
>> I was thinking of scheduling another get together on 10 April at 16:00
>> UTC , I'll send out an email nearer the time and if anyone wants to
>> sponsor/donate please get in touch.
>>
>> BR
>>
>> vgrade
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: martin brook 
>>  Date: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM
>> Subject: Fwd: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS
>> To: active@kde.org, mer-gene...@lists.merproject.org
>>
>>
>> Guys Hi,
>>
>> Just as a reminder and to clarify the channel this meeting is scheduled
>> to happen in #mer-meeting IRC at 16:00 UTC today.
>>
>> BR
>>
>> vgrade
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: martin brook 
>> Date: Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS
>> To: active@kde.org, mer-gene...@lists.merproject.org
>> Cc: Carsten Munk , David Greaves <
>> da...@dgreaves.com>, "Aaron J. Seigo" , Sebastian Kügler
>> , Maurice de la Ferte 
>>
>>
>> Guys Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for filling in your availabilities in doodle (
>> http://doodle.com/zzk4pi7cphwub34u) it looks like 16:00 UTC on Tuesday
>> 20th March is a good time for everyone.
>>
>> I posted an outline agenda below and I would hope we can all have a
>> productive debate on the way forward from here so please come armed with as
>> much detail you think might be useful.
>>
>> The meeting is open to all and I would welcome anyone else to attend.
>>
>> BR
>>
>> vgrade
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM, martin brook <
>> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have been talking to a couple of people about where we are with the
>>> replacement of the MeeGo community OBS and would like to get interested
>>> parties around the table to discuss
>>>
>>> 1. Current status of MeeGo community OBS
>>> 2, Current status of infra at openslx
>>> 3. Current status of infra at Mer Project
>>> 4, Ways forward from here in providing a capable OBS for use by the
>>> community
>>>
>>> If you are interested in joining the discussions please indicate your
>>> preferred time at the following link.
>>>
>>> http://www.doodle.com/zzk4pi7cphwub34u
>>>
>>> BR
>>>
>>> Martin Brook (vgrade)
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS

[martin brook]

Hi,

As mentioned below here is the Agenda for the next meeting in #mer-meeting
at 16:00 UTC on 10 April

1. Current status of Maemo community OBS
2. Mer NFP Status including progress on Donation/Sponsorship Procedures
3, Legal Entity Progress
4. Plasma Active Update on proposed plans for new Repos
5, Harmattan/Fremantle Targets

If you would like to add anything to the agenda please let me know.

BR

vgrade

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM, martin brook <
martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> Thanks for your time at the meeting and you can find Minutes and the full
> log below.
>
> [17:14] <@MerBot> Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 17:14:38 2012 UTC.  Information
> about MeetBot at http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings . (v 0.1.4)
> [17:14] <@MerBot> Minutes:
> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.html
> [17:14] <@MerBot> Minutes (text):
> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.txt
> [17:14] <@MerBot> Log:
> http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.log.html
>
> I was thinking of scheduling another get together on 10 April at 16:00 UTC
> , I'll send out an email nearer the time and if anyone wants to
> sponsor/donate please get in touch.
>
> BR
>
> vgrade
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: martin brook 
> Date: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM
> Subject: Fwd: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS
> To: active@kde.org, mer-gene...@lists.merproject.org
>
>
> Guys Hi,
>
> Just as a reminder and to clarify the channel this meeting is scheduled to
> happen in #mer-meeting IRC at 16:00 UTC today.
>
> BR
>
> vgrade
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: martin brook 
> Date: Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS
> To: active@kde.org, mer-gene...@lists.merproject.org
> Cc: Carsten Munk , David Greaves <
> da...@dgreaves.com>, "Aaron J. Seigo" , Sebastian Kügler <
> se...@kde.org>, Maurice de la Ferte 
>
>
> Guys Hi,
>
> Thanks for filling in your availabilities in doodle (
> http://doodle.com/zzk4pi7cphwub34u) it looks like 16:00 UTC on Tuesday
> 20th March is a good time for everyone.
>
> I posted an outline agenda below and I would hope we can all have a
> productive debate on the way forward from here so please come armed with as
> much detail you think might be useful.
>
> The meeting is open to all and I would welcome anyone else to attend.
>
> BR
>
> vgrade
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM, martin brook <
> martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have been talking to a couple of people about where we are with the
>> replacement of the MeeGo community OBS and would like to get interested
>> parties around the table to discuss
>>
>> 1. Current status of MeeGo community OBS
>> 2, Current status of infra at openslx
>> 3. Current status of infra at Mer Project
>> 4, Ways forward from here in providing a capable OBS for use by the
>> community
>>
>> If you are interested in joining the discussions please indicate your
>> preferred time at the following link.
>>
>> http://www.doodle.com/zzk4pi7cphwub34u
>>
>> BR
>>
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>>
>
>
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Re: Workflow and integration

[martin brook]

Marco Hi,

Just to throw another axis into the discussion we need to consider Mer core
in this workflow as not to end up in the tied to MeeGo 1.2 situation.

Mer makes regular releases and also pre releases so vendors can check that
the next release won't break their code.

Maurice I know has been building against these 'next' Mer releases and this
I would say that needs to continue with any change in workflow.

>From your proposals from my point of view a place to pull from to build a
stable Vivaldi / Archos image would be great and we could get the IMG tool
(which runs on the openslx machine) automatically creating stable. images.

Talking about the process automation side of things the new proposal means
potentially more repos and more activity in SR between them,  maybe the
BOSS (http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Infrastructure/BOSS) tool can help a
bit here, I'm copying in David (lbt) from Mer who has great knowledge in
this area of automated release management for products.

BR

Martin

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Marco Martin  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> this is a proposal on how to handle the development in a way where is
> easier
> to assure qa and have device specific images.
>
> from a short chat with some people it was seen there was a need of
> reorganizing a bit how git branches are kept and how this reflects on obs.
> I am explaining it now how i understood it, so please correct if wrong ;)
>
> * Need for a stable, always releasable master
> * How to do that? an "integration" branch
> * integration is kept always merged, up to date with master
> * features are developed in feature only branches
> * when a feature is almost ready is merged into integration, people test
> it,
> fixes are done in the feature branch, then re-merged
> * when tested enough, it gets merged into master
> * Device specific (Archos, vivaldi, whatever) releases are branches of
> master
> called like Device/Vivaldi (only a stable state needed? or
> integration/stable
> for that too?)
>
> This reflects in obs in the following way
> * integration project points to integration branch, (or devel can be
> repurposed to it)
> * testing project points to master: master became a stable branch now
> * Each device specific git branch has an own obs project
>
> this is just an idea, please comment ;)
> in the end a good final workflow document will need to be in place
>
> Cheers,
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Re: About Plasma Active

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Dean Hi,

I've been doing work on the Device Adaptation side of things for Vivalidi
from the Mer community, count me in

BR

vgrade


On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Marco Martin  wrote:

> On Tuesday 27 March 2012, Dean Howell wrote:
> > Plasma Active Team,
> >
> > We at The Powerbase  are probably the most
> > excited blog on the Internet when it comes to Vivaldi, Plasma-Active and
> > everything related to it.  We want to bring some attention to the core
> team
> > and thought it would be fun to interview you guys *like a team*.
> >
>
> yep, sure, that sounds great :)
>
> when would be suited for you? maybe let's set up a doodle?
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Fwd: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS

[martin brook]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for your time at the meeting and you can find Minutes and the full
log below.

[17:14] <@MerBot> Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 17:14:38 2012 UTC.  Information
about MeetBot at http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings . (v 0.1.4)
[17:14] <@MerBot> Minutes:
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.html
[17:14] <@MerBot> Minutes (text):
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.txt
[17:14] <@MerBot> Log:
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-20-16.00.log.html

I was thinking of scheduling another get together on 10 April at 16:00 UTC
, I'll send out an email nearer the time and if anyone wants to
sponsor/donate please get in touch.

BR

vgrade

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From: martin brook 
Date: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Subject: Fwd: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS
To: active@kde.org, mer-gene...@lists.merproject.org


Guys Hi,

Just as a reminder and to clarify the channel this meeting is scheduled to
happen in #mer-meeting IRC at 16:00 UTC today.

BR

vgrade


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From: martin brook 
Date: Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS
To: active@kde.org, mer-gene...@lists.merproject.org
Cc: Carsten Munk , David Greaves ,
"Aaron J. Seigo" , Sebastian Kügler ,
Maurice de la Ferte 


Guys Hi,

Thanks for filling in your availabilities in doodle (
http://doodle.com/zzk4pi7cphwub34u) it looks like 16:00 UTC on Tuesday 20th
March is a good time for everyone.

I posted an outline agenda below and I would hope we can all have a
productive debate on the way forward from here so please come armed with as
much detail you think might be useful.

The meeting is open to all and I would welcome anyone else to attend.

BR

vgrade


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM, martin brook <
martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have been talking to a couple of people about where we are with the
> replacement of the MeeGo community OBS and would like to get interested
> parties around the table to discuss
>
> 1. Current status of MeeGo community OBS
> 2, Current status of infra at openslx
> 3. Current status of infra at Mer Project
> 4, Ways forward from here in providing a capable OBS for use by the
> community
>
> If you are interested in joining the discussions please indicate your
> preferred time at the following link.
>
> http://www.doodle.com/zzk4pi7cphwub34u
>
> BR
>
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Fwd: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS

[martin brook]

Guys Hi,

Just as a reminder and to clarify the channel this meeting is scheduled to
happen in #mer-meeting IRC at 16:00 UTC today.

BR

vgrade


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From: martin brook 
Date: Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS
To: active@kde.org, mer-gene...@lists.merproject.org
Cc: Carsten Munk , David Greaves ,
"Aaron J. Seigo" , Sebastian Kügler ,
Maurice de la Ferte 


Guys Hi,

Thanks for filling in your availabilities in doodle (
http://doodle.com/zzk4pi7cphwub34u) it looks like 16:00 UTC on Tuesday 20th
March is a good time for everyone.

I posted an outline agenda below and I would hope we can all have a
productive debate on the way forward from here so please come armed with as
much detail you think might be useful.

The meeting is open to all and I would welcome anyone else to attend.

BR

vgrade


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM, martin brook <
martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have been talking to a couple of people about where we are with the
> replacement of the MeeGo community OBS and would like to get interested
> parties around the table to discuss
>
> 1. Current status of MeeGo community OBS
> 2, Current status of infra at openslx
> 3. Current status of infra at Mer Project
> 4, Ways forward from here in providing a capable OBS for use by the
> community
>
> If you are interested in joining the discussions please indicate your
> preferred time at the following link.
>
> http://www.doodle.com/zzk4pi7cphwub34u
>
> BR
>
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Fwd: [mer-general] Mer Platform SDK meeting minutes (Mar 16)

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-- Forwarded message --
From: Timo Härkönen 
Date: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Subject: [mer-general] Mer Platform SDK meeting minutes (Mar 16)
To: mer-gene...@lists.merproject.org


Hi

Executive summary:
- QA tools working with the SDK
- Saner cross compilers now included
- Work on going to enable sb2 zypper without emulation, making a sanity
test set and other general improvements
- Feedback very welcome from SDK users

Meeting minutes:
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-16-10.00.html
Full logs:
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-16-10.00.log.html

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Re: Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS

[martin brook]

Guys Hi,

Thanks for filling in your availabilities in doodle (
http://doodle.com/zzk4pi7cphwub34u) it looks like 16:00 UTC on Tuesday 20th
March is a good time for everyone.

I posted an outline agenda below and I would hope we can all have a
productive debate on the way forward from here so please come armed with as
much detail you think might be useful.

The meeting is open to all and I would welcome anyone else to attend.

BR

vgrade


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM, martin brook <
martin.brook...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have been talking to a couple of people about where we are with the
> replacement of the MeeGo community OBS and would like to get interested
> parties around the table to discuss
>
> 1. Current status of MeeGo community OBS
> 2, Current status of infra at openslx
> 3. Current status of infra at Mer Project
> 4, Ways forward from here in providing a capable OBS for use by the
> community
>
> If you are interested in joining the discussions please indicate your
> preferred time at the following link.
>
> http://www.doodle.com/zzk4pi7cphwub34u
>
> BR
>
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Fwd: [mer-general] Mer Platform SDK weekly meetings

[martin brook]

Following on from the SDK discussions on here, see the message below. Hope
to see you there.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Timo Härkönen 
Date: Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:42 PM
Subject: [mer-general] Mer Platform SDK weekly meetings
To: mer-gene...@lists.merproject.org
Cc: active@kde.org


Hi

Starting from this week's friday we'll be having the SDK meetings weekly.
The meetings will take place in #mer-meeting on fridays starting 10:00 UTC
unless something else is explicitly announced (exceptions happen in real
life too :)).

If you missed some sdk meeting, fear not - I'm collecting links to the
meeting minutes to the platform sdk wiki page
http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#SDK_team_meeting_minutes

See you there

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Replacement for MeeGo Community OBS

[martin brook]

Hi,

I have been talking to a couple of people about where we are with the
replacement of the MeeGo community OBS and would like to get interested
parties around the table to discuss

1. Current status of MeeGo community OBS
2, Current status of infra at openslx
3. Current status of infra at Mer Project
4, Ways forward from here in providing a capable OBS for use by the
community

If you are interested in joining the discussions please indicate your
preferred time at the following link.

http://www.doodle.com/zzk4pi7cphwub34u

BR

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Re: akademy talk?

[martin brook]

Hi There,

I've submitted this.

There may be some overlay in the final item but we can resolve this nearer
the time.

BR

vgrade

Name : Martin Brook , IRC nick vgrade
Title : Device Adaptation for Mer Devices Focusing on Spark Tablet
Description : I've been involved in the Device Adaptation of various
devices built using Mer Core and in this talk I will focus on the Spark
Tablet taking it from standard Android to running Mer core then onto
Integration with Plasma Active.
Abstract:
 I've been involved in the Device Adaptation of the Spark tablet since
December 11 and would like to share my experience of the process involved
in taking the Zenithink C71 running Android and converting it into the
Spark running Mer and Plasma Active.  I will cover the following areas :-

 Understanding the Boot Process - As with all device adaptations we must
understand how the device boots, I will talk about the various systems I've
seen and share some tips on how to get your kernel and filesystems booting
 Kernel Source - I will talk about what's required from a kernel for Mer
core and also share some tips to get your custom kernel booting
 Mer Project - Since the demise of MeeGo a group of people are working on
the Mer project which aims to provide and maintain a small (approx 320) set
of core OSS packages which can be used by SME's to build products.  I will
outline what is provided and some examples of where its being used.
 Plasma Active Integration - I will talk about how the port to ARM devices
came about and the issues we had in integration on Spark


On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Marco Martin  wrote:

> On Thursday 16 February 2012, you wrote:
> > > Plasma Active will be a hot topic at Akademy. Having several
> > > presentations and presenters would be nice. Desktop Summit was
> > > speculative...a series of presentations showing "what if". These
> >
> > i would love more than one presentation as well.
> > for that however people need to step up ;)
> >
>
> sooo, any takers? ;)
> (deadlines looming)
>
> also, how is the procedure to ask for an hacking room?
>
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Re: Plasma Active SDK Notes

[martin brook]

Aleix Hi,

Your right that we don't have an app developers SDK story at the moment bit
work is going on in the Mer area, see
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-09-10.01.log.html.
 I note the next stage is to concentrate on the app development area.

I did take notes from you during the sprint about your current workflow
with madde and kdevelop and will feed these into the work going on in the
Mer SDK area,  The next Mer SDK meeting will be next Friday in #mermeeting
and you are welcome there to make sure we are going in the right direction
for your workflow.

BR

vgrade


On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Aleix Pol  wrote:

> On Friday 09 March 2012 01:27:03 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Here are the notes from the breakout session at the sprint about the
> Plasma
> > SDK and Developer story.
> >
> >
> > Plasma Active SDK
> > =
> > - Three "levels":
> > (0) Simple App / Widget / "fart app" (purely Plasma Quick): Plasmate,
> > (1) Complex App / Existing Qt & KDE app (C++ & Plasma Quick): Mer
> Plasma
> > Active SDK
> > - VM image of Mer SDK
> > - additional packages (kdelibs, etc) preinstalled
> > - IDE / editor installed on the host machine, way to mount source
> > code inside VM
> > - possibly IDE integration plugins to make building and
> installing
> > easier
> > - also possibe to SSH into the VM and build
> > - easy to set up!
> > (2) System / Core development
> > - Mer PDK (not further specified at this point
> > - ask fellow developers at this point ;)
> >
> > OBS Workflow
> > 
> >
> > - package it, .spec file (examples on OBS)
> > - write yaml file, pass it through command
> > - coolo has a tool to import Debian packages
> >
> > - upload to OBS:
> > - official repo (for example for Spark): reviewed and vetted apps
> > - contrib repo for third parties: no guarantees, basic checks to
> > uploaders
> >
> > Things we need to do:
> > - set up official and contrib repos
> > - document for app developer how these steps work
> > - ensure apps are actually maintainaned, not just dumped and let
> bitrot
> >
> > Cheers,
>
> Hi!
> I know that right now it might sound weird, but now I've just seen these
> conclusions and I feel like I was not at the same place.
>
> Right now there's no SDK whatsoever, the only way I could get to run some
> of
> my applications on Active was to actually do it on the device. I guess that
> applications must be important in active in the future, so a solution must
> be
> provided.
>
> As I said on the "workout", having a device image is good for having an
> overview of what the end result looks like, but I don't really think that
> this
> is going to scale:
>  - Having two snapshots of the source code can be misleading to the
> developer.
> We can hack around ways to minimize this, but this is all logic that we'll
> have to work out.
>  - It means to run a full-blown system virtualized on a qemu (or something
> similar) and compiling stuff on it. It's going to be slow.
>
> I understand that the plan is that people keep compiling and testing the
> programs against a locally installed KDE installation and they only
> compile it
> against ARM when they want to test it on the device, so why do we need an
> emulated system at all? Additionally, this solution overlaps with MerSDK in
> many levels.
>
> Also, as I said on the workout, I'd propose to look into something like
> MADDE
> or something like they're doing in QtonPi.
>
> Aleix
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Mer Platform SDK Meeting and Latest Status

[martin brook]

Sebas Hi,

Find the latest from the Mer side at
http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK and also the meeting notes
from today at
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-09-10.01.html
 and
http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-03-09-10.01.log.html
for
the full log.

Cross posting to Mer General to log the notes below from the Plasma Active
Sprint from Wednesday.

BR

vgrade

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Sebastian Kügler  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Here are the notes from the breakout session at the sprint about the Plasma
> SDK and Developer story.
>
>
> Plasma Active SDK
> =
> - Three "levels":
>(0) Simple App / Widget / "fart app" (purely Plasma Quick): Plasmate,
>(1) Complex App / Existing Qt & KDE app (C++ & Plasma Quick): Mer Plasma
> Active SDK
>- VM image of Mer SDK
>- additional packages (kdelibs, etc) preinstalled
>- IDE / editor installed on the host machine, way to mount source
> code
> inside VM
>- possibly IDE integration plugins to make building and installing
> easier
>- also possibe to SSH into the VM and build
>- easy to set up!
>(2) System / Core development
>- Mer PDK (not further specified at this point
>- ask fellow developers at this point ;)
>
> OBS Workflow
> 
>
> - package it, .spec file (examples on OBS)
>- write yaml file, pass it through command
>- coolo has a tool to import Debian packages
>
> - upload to OBS:
>- official repo (for example for Spark): reviewed and vetted apps
>- contrib repo for third parties: no guarantees, basic checks to
> uploaders
>
> Things we need to do:
>- set up official and contrib repos
>- document for app developer how these steps work
>- ensure apps are actually maintainaned, not just dumped and let bitrot
>
> Cheers,
> --
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Re: Preparing Active Sprint

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Hey List,

I will be at the Sprint on 7th and 8th to meet more of the Active team and
as part of the Mer team will be available to talk about how that's going.

[19:42]  lbt, Stskeeps, I will be at plasma active sprint on 7/8th
at basyskom officesis there anything from the Mer side I need to find out
or brief on
[19:43]  or just a general report maybe on Mer related business
[19:44]  vgrade: well, a good 'how do you think it's going' is a
good start
[19:45]  things they have problems with/lacks/etc
[19:45]  alternative uses beyond PA for mer, etc
[19:46]  sure, no probs
[19:46]  i think that from the mer community obs pov some
discussion on how they do CI with current community obs is a good thing to
discuss
[19:46]  if you're taking notes
[19:46]  mdfe will be there so I can have a good chat
[19:47]  perhaps consider a 'outreach' blog post at the end of it
all
[19:47]  summarizing experiences, etc
[19:47]  .. think that's it from me
[19:48]  I'll also ask about plans to replace meego obs
[19:49]  :nod:
[19:49]  SDK needs, looking how many people use qt creator, etc,
useful too
[19:51]  yea, I don't have any visibility on how people develop for
PA.  I just see the packages mdfe maintains
[19:52]  :nod:

BR

vgrade

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Alex Fiestas  wrote:

> Hey !
>
> I thought that would be nice if we can get a list of things that we
> want to do before the sprint starts so we can get the 200% of our time
> there.
>
> This is what I want to do:
>
> - Bluetooth in Active: which features match active, and how we want to
> develop them
> - RandR: Do we want multi-display support? If so, how we want it?
> - Share from SLC: I'd like to implement a lot of "Sharing" within our
> desktop apps, how can we share code?
>
> Maybe we should create a Wiki page for these things ;p
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