Plasma Active Files Management and remote files / devices.

2013-02-26 Thread joseph . anania
What are the current plans for handling remote files.  Plasma Active is moving 
towards a tag based file management system, however how does this translate to 
using other devices such as portable hard drives, SD-cards and FTP servers.  

Nepomuk currently doesn't have a way of sending your tagging information to 
those devices so it can be referenced later(so all tagging information is 
lost) And currently there is no solution for this.  


Possible solutions, device tags: tags that are special and are associated with 
a device or location, so if a file is tagged it is automatically copied or 
moved.  Furthermore, .nepomuk files basically hidden files similar to 
.thumbnails and other hidden service files that can be automatically moved when 
files are moved to a new location.  They then can be read by any other PA or 
nepomuk computer and be used to automatically tag the files referenced so a 
user's tags aren't lost.  

What are your thoughts, is this even a problem or something PA should care 
about?  If so what are some other possible solutions?  
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Re: Plasma Active Files Management and remote files / devices.

2013-02-26 Thread Daniel Kreuter
Am 26.02.2013 16:52 schrieb joseph.ana...@gmail.com:

 What are the current plans for handling remote files.  Plasma Active is
moving
 towards a tag based file management system, however how does this
translate to
 using other devices such as portable hard drives, SD-cards and FTP
servers.

 Nepomuk currently doesn't have a way of sending your tagging information
to
 those devices so it can be referenced later(so all tagging information is
 lost) And currently there is no solution for this.

For usb I agree, tere should be a way to tag those two (don't know if this
is already possible). I currently see no use case for tagging files on
other remote locations like ftp, but wouild be possible.

 Possible solutions, device tags: tags that are special and are associated
with
 a device or location, so if a file is tagged it is automatically copied or
 moved.  Furthermore, .nepomuk files basically hidden files similar to
 .thumbnails and other hidden service files that can be automatically
moved when
 files are moved to a new location.  They then can be read by any other PA
or
 nepomuk computer and be used to automatically tag the files referenced so
a
 user's tags aren't lost.

Maybe you can use the url or uuid (in case of a remote location like ftp)
and store this locally on yohr tablet. Since these locations won't change
nepomuk would find them later.


 What are your thoughts, is this even a problem or something PA should care
 about?  If so what are some other possible solutions?
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Re: Plasma Active Files Management and remote files / devices.

2013-02-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:53:35 joseph.ana...@gmail.com wrote:
 What are the current plans for handling remote files.  Plasma Active is
 moving towards a tag based file management system, however how does this
 translate to using other devices such as portable hard drives, SD-cards and
 FTP servers.

this is more a question for nepomuk than plasma active.

removable media is also a different beast from network media for a variety of 
reasons (not least of all is that random access I/O is less likely on network 
services)

so i'd probably start by refining the problem statement to include specific 
types of systems, e.g. volumes where async, random access i/o is possible, 
volumes that can be read from and written to, but only atomically, volumes 
that can only be read from and then looking at possible solutions there.

the way you phrased it, my guess is that you are thinking about how to store 
the nepomuk data *with* the data, e.g. having a nepomuk database on a 
removable disk that gets used whenever the disk is inserted?

and i hope you're asking the question because you're thinking of writing code 
to address these issues?

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Aaron J. Seigo

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