[ActiveDir] migration help

2006-12-29 Thread badhusha sd
Hi all

I had a windows 2000 domain with 2 domain contraoller , 3 file servers , the 
users acoounts are spread across all the servers (ie the active directory 
accounts are added to file server directory security to assign access to users 
for folders and files). now i am installing new servers for windows 2003 and i 
want to migrate the users account from windows 2000 to windows 2003 . how to i 
do , what happend to the user acconts after migration , what happens to the 
users accounts added to file server. how to do i retain the same user acconts 
in the file server directory permissions.

please give me a solution for a proper migration.

Thanks in advance.

Bdahusha.s.d.

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Re: [ActiveDir] migration help

2006-12-29 Thread adriaoramos
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325379/en-us


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[ActiveDir] migration help






Hi all
 
I had a windows 2000 domain with 2 domain contraoller , 3 file servers , 
the users acoounts are spread across all the servers (ie the active 
directory accounts are added to file server directory security to assign 
access to users for folders and files). now i am installing new servers 
for windows 2003 and i want to migrate the users account from windows 2000 
to windows 2003 . how to i do , what happend to the user acconts after 
migration , what happens to the users accounts added to file server. how 
to do i retain the same user acconts in the file server directory 
permissions.
 
please give me a solution for a proper migration.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Bdahusha.s.d.

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RE: [ActiveDir] migration help

2006-12-29 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
in your case I would suggest an UPGRADE of the domain to w2k3 AD instead of a 
migration to a NEW forest

high-level steps are
* use the W2K3 SP1 CD!
* update schema (only needed to introduce w2k3 DCs, not needed for w2k3 member 
servers)
* introduce w2k3 DCs
* move stuff over from w2k DCs to w2k3 DCs
* demote and decommission W2K DCs
 
also see for additional information:
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/19/What-information-is-available-when-UPGRADING-from-W2K_2F00_E2K-to-W2K3-_2800_R2_29002F00_E2K3_3F00_.aspx
 
Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of badhusha sd
Sent: Fri 2006-12-29 12:22
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] migration help


Hi all
 
I had a windows 2000 domain with 2 domain contraoller , 3 file servers , the 
users acoounts are spread across all the servers (ie the active directory 
accounts are added to file server directory security to assign access to users 
for folders and files). now i am installing new servers for windows 2003 and i 
want to migrate the users account from windows 2000 to windows 2003 . how to i 
do , what happend to the user acconts after migration , what happens to the 
users accounts added to file server. how to do i retain the same user acconts 
in the file server directory permissions.
 
please give me a solution for a proper migration.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Bdahusha.s.d.

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Re: [ActiveDir] migration help

2006-12-29 Thread badhusha sd
Your right , basically i was thought of it .

But company has bought Hp DL G4 servers for new windows 2003 dc , instead of Ml 
530 , i have to use DL G4 servers for new installation .

How do i proceed.

Thanks


- Original Message 
From: Almeida Pinto, Jorge de [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:24:39 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] migration help


in your case I would suggest an UPGRADE of the domain to w2k3 AD instead of a 
migration to a NEW forest

high-level steps are
* use the W2K3 SP1 CD!
* update schema (only needed to introduce w2k3 DCs, not needed for w2k3 member 
servers)
* introduce w2k3 DCs
* move stuff over from w2k DCs to w2k3 DCs
* demote and decommission W2K DCs

also see for additional information:
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/19/What-information-is-available-when-UPGRADING-from-W2K_2F00_E2K-to-W2K3-_2800_R2_29002F00_E2K3_3F00_.aspx

Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services

LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU RTINC Eindhoven)
(   Tel : +31-(0)40-29.57.777
(   Mobile : +31-(0)6-26.26.62.80
*   E-mail : see sender address



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of badhusha sd
Sent: Fri 2006-12-29 12:22
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] migration help


Hi all

I had a windows 2000 domain with 2 domain contraoller , 3 file servers , the 
users acoounts are spread across all the servers (ie the active directory 
accounts are added to file server directory security to assign access to users 
for folders and files). now i am installing new servers for windows 2003 and i 
want to migrate the users account from windows 2000 to windows 2003 . how to i 
do , what happend to the user acconts after migration , what happens to the 
users accounts added to file server. how to do i retain the same user acconts 
in the file server directory permissions.

please give me a solution for a proper migration.

Thanks in advance.

Bdahusha.s.d.

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RE: [ActiveDir] migration help

2006-12-29 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
please read the articles I mailed earlier
 
Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of badhusha sd
Sent: Fri 2006-12-29 13:51
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] migration help


Your right , basically i was thought of it .
 
But company has bought Hp DL G4 servers for new windows 2003 dc , instead of Ml 
530 , i have to use DL G4 servers for new installation .

How do i proceed.
 
Thanks

 
- Original Message 
From: Almeida Pinto, Jorge de [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:24:39 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] migration help


in your case I would suggest an UPGRADE of the domain to w2k3 AD instead of a 
migration to a NEW forest

high-level steps are
* use the W2K3 SP1 CD!
* update schema (only needed to introduce w2k3 DCs, not needed for w2k3 member 
servers)
* introduce w2k3 DCs
* move stuff over from w2k DCs to w2k3 DCs
* demote and decommission W2K DCs

also see for additional information:
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/19/What-information-is-available-when-UPGRADING-from-W2K_2F00_E2K-to-W2K3-_2800_R2_29002F00_E2K3_3F00_.aspx

Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services

LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU RTINC Eindhoven)
(   Tel : +31-(0)40-29.57.777
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of badhusha sd
Sent: Fri 2006-12-29 12:22
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] migration help


Hi all

I had a windows 2000 domain with 2 domain contraoller , 3 file servers , the 
users acoounts are spread across all the servers (ie the active directory 
accounts are added to file server directory security to assign access to users 
for folders and files). now i am installing new servers for windows 2003 and i 
want to migrate the users account from windows 2000 to windows 2003 . how to i 
do , what happend to the user acconts after migration , what happens to the 
users accounts added to file server. how to do i retain the same user acconts 
in the file server directory permissions.

please give me a solution for a proper migration.

Thanks in advance.

Bdahusha.s.d.

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RE: [ActiveDir] migration help

2006-12-29 Thread Sakari Kouti
Hi badhusha,

I believe one of Jorge's points was that you can install new DCs (new
hardware and new 2003 installation) to the existing domain, so you don't
create a new domain and don't have to migrate anything.

Then, after some intermediate steps, you can remove (with proper steps)
the old 2000 DCs, and your are left with only the 2003 DCs.

Yours, Sakari



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of badhusha sd
Sent: 29. joulukuuta 2006 14:51
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] migration help


Your right , basically i was thought of it .
 
But company has bought Hp DL G4 servers for new windows 2003 dc ,
instead of Ml 530 , i have to use DL G4 servers for new installation .

How do i proceed.
 
Thanks

 
- Original Message 
From: Almeida Pinto, Jorge de [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:24:39 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] migration help


in your case I would suggest an UPGRADE of the domain to w2k3 AD instead
of a migration to a NEW forest

high-level steps are
* use the W2K3 SP1 CD!
* update schema (only needed to introduce w2k3 DCs, not needed for w2k3
member servers)
* introduce w2k3 DCs
* move stuff over from w2k DCs to w2k3 DCs
* demote and decommission W2K DCs

also see for additional information:
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/19/What-information
-is-available-when-UPGRADING-from-W2K_2F00_E2K-to-W2K3-_2800_R2_29002F00
_E2K3_3F00_.aspx

Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services

LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU RTINC Eindhoven)
(   Tel : +31-(0)40-29.57.777
(   Mobile : +31-(0)6-26.26.62.80
*   E-mail : see sender address



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of badhusha sd
Sent: Fri 2006-12-29 12:22
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] migration help


Hi all

I had a windows 2000 domain with 2 domain contraoller , 3 file servers ,
the users acoounts are spread across all the servers (ie the active
directory accounts are added to file server directory security to assign
access to users for folders and files). now i am installing new servers
for windows 2003 and i want to migrate the users account from windows
2000 to windows 2003 . how to i do , what happend to the user acconts
after migration , what happens to the users accounts added to file
server. how to do i retain the same user acconts in the file server
directory permissions.

please give me a solution for a proper migration.

Thanks in advance.

Bdahusha.s.d.

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RE: [ActiveDir] migration help

2006-12-29 Thread Paul G. DaSilva
Boas festas

-Original Message-
From: Almeida Pinto, Jorge de [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: 12/29/06 8:03 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] migration help

please read the articles I mailed earlier
 
Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
 
LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU RTINC Eindhoven)
(   Tel : +31-(0)40-29.57.777
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of badhusha sd
Sent: Fri 2006-12-29 13:51
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] migration help


Your right , basically i was thought of it .
 
But company has bought Hp DL G4 servers for new windows 2003 dc , instead of Ml 
530 , i have to use DL G4 servers for new installation .

How do i proceed.
 
Thanks

 
- Original Message 
From: Almeida Pinto, Jorge de [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:24:39 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] migration help


in your case I would suggest an UPGRADE of the domain to w2k3 AD instead of a 
migration to a NEW forest

high-level steps are
* use the W2K3 SP1 CD!
* update schema (only needed to introduce w2k3 DCs, not needed for w2k3 member 
servers)
* introduce w2k3 DCs
* move stuff over from w2k DCs to w2k3 DCs
* demote and decommission W2K DCs

also see for additional information:
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/19/What-information-is-available-when-UPGRADING-from-W2K_2F00_E2K-to-W2K3-_2800_R2_29002F00_E2K3_3F00_.aspx

Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services

LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU RTINC Eindhoven)
(   Tel : +31-(0)40-29.57.777
(   Mobile : +31-(0)6-26.26.62.80
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of badhusha sd
Sent: Fri 2006-12-29 12:22
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] migration help


Hi all

I had a windows 2000 domain with 2 domain contraoller , 3 file servers , the 
users acoounts are spread across all the servers (ie the active directory 
accounts are added to file server directory security to assign access to users 
for folders and files). now i am installing new servers for windows 2003 and i 
want to migrate the users account from windows 2000 to windows 2003 . how to i 
do , what happend to the user acconts after migration , what happens to the 
users accounts added to file server. how to do i retain the same user acconts 
in the file server directory permissions.

please give me a solution for a proper migration.

Thanks in advance.

Bdahusha.s.d.

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Re: [ActiveDir] Cross-Forest Kerberos Delegation

2006-12-29 Thread steve patrick

Hi Ken

Based on your mail you seem to have the following setup:

   F1 
F2
| 
|
M1--- ISA--- IIS---AppServer 
UserA



UserA logs on to M1 and hits the IIS Server which needs to access AppServer 
with a proper token for UserA


In this scenario - constrained delegation will work ok.

Perhaps Joe was thinking of the docs which state you have to have the IIS 
Server and the AppServer in the same forest and domain?


steve



- Original Message - 
From: Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cross-Forest Kerberos Delegation


Hi Joe,

Thanks for your comments. Certainly using Basic is easier, and this is 
mostly

what they are doing at the moment. I say mostly because I wasn't entirely
upfront about the web server component in my original diagram. That is
actually several dozen different web applications - some of which do not 
have

an option to use Basic (either technical limitation -or- a security
standard). The aim of the project is to (a) see if transparent logons can be
made available to users (i.e. via IWA challenges) and (b) see if SSO can be
enabled (so users do not need to authenticate to different applications
behind the proxy) and (c) get away from Basic Auth. So I'm going to have to
keep looking at Kerberos related solutions :-)

Cheers
Ken

--
My Blog: www.adOpenStatic.com/cs/blogs/ken


: -Original Message-
: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan
: Sent: Wednesday, 20 December 2006 10:41 AM
: To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
: Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cross-Forest Kerberos Delegation
:
: My understanding is that you can get the actual protocol transition
: logon to
: work, but you cannot use delegation (which is what you really need)
: because
: PT is tied to constrained delegation and it only works in a single
: domain,
: not even in multiple domains in a forest.  Your understanding is
: basically
: correct.
:
: This is a documented limitation and not something I've played with
: personally, so I'm not sure if there is more to it than that.
:
: I honestly don't know if this can be made to work with unconstrained
: delegation/kerb auth in IIS, as I've never tried that either.  However,
: giving out unconstrained delegation privileges is a bit icky.
:
: This may be one of those situations where it is easier to just pass the
: plaintext credentials around between the tiers using basic auth/SSL and
: such.
:
: Joe
:
: - Original Message -
: From: Ken Schaefer
: To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
: Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:29 PM
: Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cross-Forest Kerberos Delegation
:
:
: Hi Steve,
:
: Can you elaborate on this? I'm familiar with what S4U2self is for, but
: not
: sure how to tell whether I would need it or not. Are you saying below
: that
: protocol transition can be used cross-forest? I thought protocol
: transition
: was tied to constrained delegation (in a user/computer account's
: properties,
: on the delegation tab there is an option that says any protocol, but
: that's
: only available in the section for constrained delegation. If that's the
: case, then how can protocol transition work cross-forest?
:
: Cheers
: Ken
:
: --
: My Blog: www.adOpenStatic.com/cs/blogs/ken
:
: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Sent: Wednesday, 20 December 2006 12:37 AM
: To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
: Cc: Ken Schaefer
: Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cross-Forest Kerberos Delegation
:
: If I understand your scenario correctly 
:
: In order for S4U2self ( protocol transition ) to work in this sceanrio
: you
: will need a 2 way forest  trust.
: If you do not need S4U2self you  can get by with the one way trust.
:
: steve
: -- Original message --
: From: Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:
:  Hi all,
: 
:  I am looking at a slightly tricky situation, at least for me - I'm
: sure
:  you
:  guys would find this a walk in the park :-)
: 
:  I have a situation where there are two forests (2003 Forest
: Functional
:  Level). Each contains a single domain. One domain is a resource
: domain
:  (DomainB), and the other contains the user accounts (DomainA). There
: is a
:  one-way forest trust, such that the resource forest/ domain trust the
: user
:  forest (and domain).
: 
:  The situation I have is as follows:
: 
:  Client --- ISA Server 2006 --- Web Server --- App Server
: 
:  The user that is logged on to the client is from DomainA. All the
: servers
:  belong to DomainB. The user's credentials need to be passed from the
: web
:  server back to the app server. So I could use Basic Authentication
: all the
:  way through. Or I can try to use Kerberos  delegation.
: 
:  Now, ISA Server can use protocol transition, so that Client --- ISA
:  Server
:  can be 

Re: [ActiveDir] Cross-Forest Kerberos Delegation

2006-12-29 Thread steve patrick

Wow that turned out ugly didnt it?

Basically it should have shown that  all machines are in one domain in 
Forest1 and the user account is in Forest 2 and F1 trusts F2.


Sorry for the long delay  in reply also - I was on vacation ...

Happy New Years!

steve

- Original Message - 
From: steve patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cross-Forest Kerberos Delegation



Hi Ken

Based on your mail you seem to have the following setup:


F1 F2
| |
M1--- ISA--- IIS---AppServer UserA


UserA logs on to M1 and hits the IIS Server which needs to access 
AppServer with a proper token for UserA


In this scenario - constrained delegation will work ok.

Perhaps Joe was thinking of the docs which state you have to have the IIS 
Server and the AppServer in the same forest and domain?


steve



- Original Message - 
From: Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cross-Forest Kerberos Delegation


Hi Joe,

Thanks for your comments. Certainly using Basic is easier, and this is 
mostly

what they are doing at the moment. I say mostly because I wasn't entirely
upfront about the web server component in my original diagram. That is
actually several dozen different web applications - some of which do not 
have

an option to use Basic (either technical limitation -or- a security
standard). The aim of the project is to (a) see if transparent logons can 
be
made available to users (i.e. via IWA challenges) and (b) see if SSO can 
be

enabled (so users do not need to authenticate to different applications
behind the proxy) and (c) get away from Basic Auth. So I'm going to have 
to

keep looking at Kerberos related solutions :-)

Cheers
Ken

--
My Blog: www.adOpenStatic.com/cs/blogs/ken


: -Original Message-
: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan
: Sent: Wednesday, 20 December 2006 10:41 AM
: To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
: Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cross-Forest Kerberos Delegation
:
: My understanding is that you can get the actual protocol transition
: logon to
: work, but you cannot use delegation (which is what you really need)
: because
: PT is tied to constrained delegation and it only works in a single
: domain,
: not even in multiple domains in a forest.  Your understanding is
: basically
: correct.
:
: This is a documented limitation and not something I've played with
: personally, so I'm not sure if there is more to it than that.
:
: I honestly don't know if this can be made to work with unconstrained
: delegation/kerb auth in IIS, as I've never tried that either.  However,
: giving out unconstrained delegation privileges is a bit icky.
:
: This may be one of those situations where it is easier to just pass the
: plaintext credentials around between the tiers using basic auth/SSL and
: such.
:
: Joe
:
: - Original Message -
: From: Ken Schaefer
: To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
: Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:29 PM
: Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cross-Forest Kerberos Delegation
:
:
: Hi Steve,
:
: Can you elaborate on this? I'm familiar with what S4U2self is for, but
: not
: sure how to tell whether I would need it or not. Are you saying below
: that
: protocol transition can be used cross-forest? I thought protocol
: transition
: was tied to constrained delegation (in a user/computer account's
: properties,
: on the delegation tab there is an option that says any protocol, but
: that's
: only available in the section for constrained delegation. If that's the
: case, then how can protocol transition work cross-forest?
:
: Cheers
: Ken
:
: --
: My Blog: www.adOpenStatic.com/cs/blogs/ken
:
: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Sent: Wednesday, 20 December 2006 12:37 AM
: To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
: Cc: Ken Schaefer
: Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cross-Forest Kerberos Delegation
:
: If I understand your scenario correctly 
:
: In order for S4U2self ( protocol transition ) to work in this sceanrio
: you
: will need a 2 way forest  trust.
: If you do not need S4U2self you  can get by with the one way trust.
:
: steve
: -- Original message --
: From: Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:
:  Hi all,
: 
:  I am looking at a slightly tricky situation, at least for me - I'm
: sure
:  you
:  guys would find this a walk in the park :-)
: 
:  I have a situation where there are two forests (2003 Forest
: Functional
:  Level). Each contains a single domain. One domain is a resource
: domain
:  (DomainB), and the other contains the user accounts (DomainA). There
: is a
:  one-way forest trust, such that the resource forest/ domain trust the
: user
:  forest (and domain).
: 
:  The situation I have is as follows:
: 
:  Client 

[ActiveDir] OT MOM 2005 Install

2006-12-29 Thread Brian Desmond
Is there someone who has a MOM 2005 SP1 install and access to the SQL
server it's on that could ping me offlist? I don't have access to my
VMWare environment and I need the create script for a couple things. 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

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c - 312.731.3132

 



Re: [ActiveDir] Cross-Forest Kerberos Delegation

2006-12-29 Thread Joe Kaplan
That is what I was thinking of.  I couldn't find where I read that and went 
from memory.  Thanks for the clarification.


Joe K.

- Original Message - 
From: steve patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cross-Forest Kerberos Delegation



Hi Ken

Based on your mail you seem to have the following setup:


F1 F2
| |
M1--- ISA--- IIS---AppServer UserA


UserA logs on to M1 and hits the IIS Server which needs to access 
AppServer with a proper token for UserA


In this scenario - constrained delegation will work ok.

Perhaps Joe was thinking of the docs which state you have to have the IIS 
Server and the AppServer in the same forest and domain?


steve





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