[ActiveDir] BIND allow-update

2006-10-06 Thread james . masters
Easy question for the group - 

I have a forest rood domain: msroot.company
I have a domain: company.com

We use BIND. My question: do I need an allow-update entry for both zones
or just the forest root zone for proper dynamic update operation?

Thanks in advance,
James
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Re: [ActiveDir] BIND allow-update

2006-10-06 Thread itgeek
allow-update needs to be configured per zone, so if you want dynamic 
updates to occur in both domains you'll need the allow-update entry in the 
zones representing each domain.


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Easy question for the group -

I have a forest rood domain: msroot.company
I have a domain: company.com

We use BIND. My question: do I need an allow-update entry for both zones
or just the forest root zone for proper dynamic update operation?

Thanks in advance,
James
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RE: [ActiveDir] BIND allow-update

2006-10-06 Thread Ansar Mohammed
I believe that that would be a BIND specific situation and allow-update or
update-policy can be used, but both directives are per zone. 
If you have two AD Domains that you want to enable dynamic update on, then
yes. 

But using BIND for AD in all honesty is quite painful. But if you must

http://www.linux-mag.com/2001-03/bind_01.html

Then read the unix haters handbook.(Not that I don't like Unix)
http://research.microsoft.com/~daniel/uhh-download.html


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 Easy question for the group -
 
 I have a forest rood domain: msroot.company
 I have a domain: company.com
 
 We use BIND. My question: do I need an allow-update entry for both zones
 or just the forest root zone for proper dynamic update operation?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 James
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RE: [ActiveDir] BIND allow-update

2006-10-06 Thread james . masters
Thanks for the replies - I think I have to revise my question.

Upon DC promotion - does the DC need to dynamically update the forest root
and the domain the DC is in?

(e.g. I'm promoting a DC for company.com, does the DC need to do DDNS to
both company.com AND msroot.company (the forest root domain)?

Thanks again,
-James

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I believe that that would be a BIND specific situation and allow-update or
update-policy can be used, but both directives are per zone. 
If you have two AD Domains that you want to enable dynamic update on, then
yes. 

But using BIND for AD in all honesty is quite painful. But if you must

http://www.linux-mag.com/2001-03/bind_01.html

Then read the unix haters handbook.(Not that I don't like Unix)
http://research.microsoft.com/~daniel/uhh-download.html


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 Easy question for the group -
 
 I have a forest rood domain: msroot.company
 I have a domain: company.com
 
 We use BIND. My question: do I need an allow-update entry for both
zones
 or just the forest root zone for proper dynamic update operation?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 James
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Re: [ActiveDir] BIND allow-update

2006-10-06 Thread itgeek
The DC in the child domain needs to update the dns zone that represents it's 
domain. It also needs to update the _msdcs.root domain zone. The 
_msdcs.root domain zone contains records for the GC's and the CNAME 
records that are used for replication.


Hope that helps.

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Thanks for the replies - I think I have to revise my question.

Upon DC promotion - does the DC need to dynamically update the forest root
and the domain the DC is in?

(e.g. I'm promoting a DC for company.com, does the DC need to do DDNS to
both company.com AND msroot.company (the forest root domain)?

Thanks again,
-James

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Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:30 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] BIND allow-update

I believe that that would be a BIND specific situation and allow-update or
update-policy can be used, but both directives are per zone.
If you have two AD Domains that you want to enable dynamic update on, then
yes.

But using BIND for AD in all honesty is quite painful. But if you must

http://www.linux-mag.com/2001-03/bind_01.html

Then read the unix haters handbook.(Not that I don't like Unix)
http://research.microsoft.com/~daniel/uhh-download.html



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Subject: [ActiveDir] BIND allow-update

Easy question for the group -

I have a forest rood domain: msroot.company
I have a domain: company.com

We use BIND. My question: do I need an allow-update entry for both

zones

or just the forest root zone for proper dynamic update operation?

Thanks in advance,
James
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RE: [ActiveDir] BIND allow-update

2006-10-06 Thread Laura A. Robinson
You either need to allow the dynamic updates or create the DC's records
manually. Do the records need to be created in the zones for the server to
be reachable? Yes. Do you have to allow dynamic updates in order to create
them? No. One way or another, however, you need to get the records created,
and dynamic updates are easier than typing GUIDs. :-)

As far as what the records that need to be created *are*, and for
information on how to create them manually:

http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/b6879c0b-cff7-438d-a7
f3-0715456dcefb1033.mspx?mfr=true
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/ac
tivedirectory/maintain/opsguide/part1/adogd10.mspx

Laura

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 Thanks for the replies - I think I have to revise my question.
 
 Upon DC promotion - does the DC need to dynamically update 
 the forest root and the domain the DC is in?
 
 (e.g. I'm promoting a DC for company.com, does the DC need to 
 do DDNS to both company.com AND msroot.company (the forest 
 root domain)?
 
 Thanks again,
 -James
 
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 Ansar Mohammed
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:30 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] BIND allow-update
 
 I believe that that would be a BIND specific situation and 
 allow-update or update-policy can be used, but both 
 directives are per zone. 
 If you have two AD Domains that you want to enable dynamic 
 update on, then yes. 
 
 But using BIND for AD in all honesty is quite painful. But if you must
 
 http://www.linux-mag.com/2001-03/bind_01.html
 
 Then read the unix haters handbook.(Not that I don't like 
 Unix) http://research.microsoft.com/~daniel/uhh-download.html
 
 
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  Easy question for the group -
  
  I have a forest rood domain: msroot.company I have a domain: 
  company.com
  
  We use BIND. My question: do I need an allow-update entry for both
 zones
  or just the forest root zone for proper dynamic update operation?
  
  Thanks in advance,
  James
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RE: [ActiveDir] BIND allow-update

2006-10-06 Thread james . masters
Very much - thanks everyone.

James Masters
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The DC in the child domain needs to update the dns zone that represents
it's 
domain. It also needs to update the _msdcs.root domain zone. The 
_msdcs.root domain zone contains records for the GC's and the CNAME 
records that are used for replication.

Hope that helps.

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 Thanks for the replies - I think I have to revise my question.

 Upon DC promotion - does the DC need to dynamically update the forest
root
 and the domain the DC is in?

 (e.g. I'm promoting a DC for company.com, does the DC need to do DDNS to
 both company.com AND msroot.company (the forest root domain)?

 Thanks again,
 -James

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ansar Mohammed
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:30 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] BIND allow-update

 I believe that that would be a BIND specific situation and allow-update
or
 update-policy can be used, but both directives are per zone.
 If you have two AD Domains that you want to enable dynamic update on,
then
 yes.

 But using BIND for AD in all honesty is quite painful. But if you must

 http://www.linux-mag.com/2001-03/bind_01.html

 Then read the unix haters handbook.(Not that I don't like Unix)
 http://research.microsoft.com/~daniel/uhh-download.html


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 Easy question for the group -

 I have a forest rood domain: msroot.company
 I have a domain: company.com

 We use BIND. My question: do I need an allow-update entry for both
 zones
 or just the forest root zone for proper dynamic update operation?

 Thanks in advance,
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Re: [ActiveDir] BIND allow-update

2006-10-06 Thread Matheesha Weerasinghe
http://research.microsoft.com/programs/up_content/bind.doc might be of use.On 10/6/06, 
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Easy question for the group -I have a forest rood domain: msroot.companyI have a domain: company.comWe use BIND. My question: do I need an allow-update entry for both zones
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