RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

2007-01-28 Thread joe
I agree that MIIS could be convenient but only if it is already there or you
have other plans for it. If this was the only reason for it I would be more
apt to put something else together that had a far lower bar of entry such as
some basic scripts that are scheduled through task scheduler or made into a
service (Perl PSDK) or LDSU or some basic low end syncing tools that don't
require setting up a full blown SQL and MIIS server. 
 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 7:39 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT



You can whack notes with ldifde or something. MIIS is a convenient way to do
it though.

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:08 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

 

Ewww.  :)

 

Unless there are other needs that require MIIS I don't think I would deploy
it for this. MIIS is a 50 caliber when all that was probably needed was foam
pellet gun. 

 

I have seen folks doing this before, usually they get an LDIF extract from
Notes and just slam that into AD as contacts or mail-enabled users. Actually
getting the info out of Notes... no clue, I didn't even want to start
touching Exchange let alone any other messaging apps. I am happy just with
Windows Server 2003 SMTP and looking at the text files. ;o)

 

 

 

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http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm 

 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:52 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

Have you looked at MIIS?

 

Laura

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas W Stelley
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:19 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT


Same topic, but this one is for Notes Admin/Gurus as well. 

I populate the mail attribute in AD with the Notes Users primary internet
address. Does anyone have a script or method that will allow me to publish
in AD the same info for groups and other addresses for users. 

Even something that can query Domino for all users and groups and return all
addresses into a file, I can use that as a basis to update AD with proxy
info etc. 
Thanks in advance. 

Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




Brian Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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01/26/2007 09:47 AM 


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Ah, yes, good call. Almost forgot that it changes that, too.


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wells, James
Arthur
Sent: Friday 26 January 2007 08:44
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

It should also update the 'mail' attribute to the new primary SMTP:
address.


--James

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Cline
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:38 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

Out of curiosity, when setting a different primary e-mail address to an
address that already exists as a secondary, does ADUC do anything more
than change the prefix on the old primary address from 'SMTP' to 'smtp'
and vice-versa for the new primary?


Brian Cline, Applications Developer
Department of Information Technology
GP Trucking Company, Inc.
803.936.8595 Direct Line
800.922.1147 Toll-Free (x8595)
803.739.1176 Fax


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan
Sent: Thursday 25 January 2007 19:52
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

In addition to what Ulf said, there also isn't any practical way to
query 
for users that have secondary addresses vs. only having a primary and
there 
isn't any practical way to just get the secondary addresses out of the 
proxyAddresses attribute.  You essentially need to get all the data and
then 
check for the values that are prefixed with lower case smtp.

Maybe Joe R. has a neat trick with ADFind to make this easier, but LDAP 
itself doesn't help much.

Joe K.

- Original Message - 
From: Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
To: ActiveDir

Re: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

2007-01-28 Thread Al Mulnick

What?  Like simplesync?

I was beginning to wonder if anyone was going to bring up perl for this
particular application.  It strikes me as the common glue for this
particular application that doesn't require the gnotes client software to be
installed.  i.e. self-sustaining.


I think if I were not going to go with a COTS application I'd likely choose
something like perl to write it.  I have to agree that MIIS is way overkill
for this if this is your only usage scenario.

Just curious, but why do you want to populate that data in AD? Seems silly
if nobody is using it for a directory other than admins.  Was there an
application that wants it?




On 1/28/07, joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I agree that MIIS could be convenient but only if it is already there or
you have other plans for it. If this was the only reason for it I would be
more apt to put something else together that had a far lower bar of entry
such as some basic scripts that are scheduled through task scheduler or made
into a service (Perl PSDK) or LDSU or some basic low end syncing tools that
don't require setting up a full blown SQL and MIIS server.

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http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm



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*Sent:* Saturday, January 27, 2007 7:39 PM
*To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
*Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?
Slightly OT



*You can whack notes with ldifde or something. MIIS is a convenient way to
do it though.*

* *

*Thanks,*

*Brian Desmond*

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* *

*c - 312.731.3132*

* *

*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *joe
*Sent:* Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:08 PM
*To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
*Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?
Slightly OT



Ewww.  :)



Unless there are other needs that require MIIS I don't think I would
deploy it for this. MIIS is a 50 caliber when all that was probably needed
was foam pellet gun.



I have seen folks doing this before, usually they get an LDIF extract from
Notes and just slam that into AD as contacts or mail-enabled users. Actually
getting the info out of Notes... no clue, I didn't even want to start
touching Exchange let alone any other messaging apps. I am happy just with
Windows Server 2003 SMTP and looking at the text files. ;o)







--

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http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm






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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Laura A. Robinson
*Sent:* Friday, January 26, 2007 12:52 PM
*To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
*Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?
Slightly OT

Have you looked at MIIS?



Laura


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Douglas W Stelley
*Sent:* Friday, January 26, 2007 10:19 AM
*To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
*Subject:* [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT


Same topic, but this one is for Notes Admin/Gurus as well.

I populate the mail attribute in AD with the Notes Users primary internet
address. Does anyone have a script or method that will allow me to publish
in AD the same info for groups and other addresses for users.

Even something that can query Domino for all users and groups and return *
all* addresses into a file, I can use that as a basis to update AD with
proxy info etc.
Thanks in advance.

Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  *Brian Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED]*
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Ah, yes, good call. Almost forgot that it changes that, too.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wells, James
Arthur
Sent: Friday 26 January 2007 08:44
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

It should also update the 'mail' attribute to the new primary SMTP:
address.


--James

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Cline
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:38 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

Out of curiosity, when setting a different primary e-mail address to an
address that already exists as a secondary, does ADUC do anything more
than change the prefix on the old primary address from 'SMTP' to 'smtp'
and vice-versa for the new primary?


Brian Cline, Applications Developer
Department of Information Technology
GP Trucking Company, Inc.
803.936.8595 Direct Line
800.922.1147 Toll-Free (x8595)
803.739.1176 Fax


-Original Message

RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

2007-01-28 Thread Brian Desmond
Yeah personally I'd have written some little .net contraption doing it in the 
background if it was something as simple as this.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

c - 312.731.3132

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 10:04 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

I agree that MIIS could be convenient but only if it is already there or you 
have other plans for it. If this was the only reason for it I would be more apt 
to put something else together that had a far lower bar of entry such as some 
basic scripts that are scheduled through task scheduler or made into a service 
(Perl PSDK) or LDSU or some basic low end syncing tools that don't require 
setting up a full blown SQL and MIIS server.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 7:39 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT
You can whack notes with ldifde or something. MIIS is a convenient way to do it 
though.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

c - 312.731.3132

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:08 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

Ewww.  :)

Unless there are other needs that require MIIS I don't think I would deploy it 
for this. MIIS is a 50 caliber when all that was probably needed was foam 
pellet gun.

I have seen folks doing this before, usually they get an LDIF extract from 
Notes and just slam that into AD as contacts or mail-enabled users. Actually 
getting the info out of Notes... no clue, I didn't even want to start touching 
Exchange let alone any other messaging apps. I am happy just with Windows 
Server 2003 SMTP and looking at the text files. ;o)



--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:52 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT
Have you looked at MIIS?

Laura


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas W Stelley
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:19 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

Same topic, but this one is for Notes Admin/Gurus as well.

I populate the mail attribute in AD with the Notes Users primary internet 
address. Does anyone have a script or method that will allow me to publish in 
AD the same info for groups and other addresses for users.

Even something that can query Domino for all users and groups and return all 
addresses into a file, I can use that as a basis to update AD with proxy info 
etc.
Thanks in advance.

Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brian Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

01/26/2007 09:47 AM
Please respond to
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org


To

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cc

Subject

RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?







Ah, yes, good call. Almost forgot that it changes that, too.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wells, James
Arthur
Sent: Friday 26 January 2007 08:44
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

It should also update the 'mail' attribute to the new primary SMTP:
address.


--James

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Cline
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:38 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

Out of curiosity, when setting a different primary e-mail address to an
address that already exists as a secondary, does ADUC do anything more
than change the prefix on the old primary address from 'SMTP' to 'smtp'
and vice-versa for the new primary?


Brian Cline, Applications Developer
Department of Information Technology
GP Trucking Company, Inc.
803.936.8595 Direct Line
800.922.1147 Toll-Free (x8595)
803.739.1176 Fax


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan
Sent: Thursday 25 January 2007 19:52
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

In addition to what Ulf said, there also isn't any practical way to
query
for users that have secondary addresses vs. only having a primary and
there
isn't any

RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

2007-01-28 Thread joe
Oh I am always about perl... TIMTOWTDI baby! ;o)
 
Perl is installed on my machines even before reskit and support tools. I
can't count the number of months it has saved me nor the number of $$$ on
third party tools. I know for a fact that there are enterprise level
companies out there still running in daily operations perl scripts I wrote
10 years ago that were supposed to be replaced with something better
(their words not mine) that are still flexible enough to do what they need
and haven't even been challenged with something better. This includes
monitoring scripts running as NT services, application launch helpers,
software delivery, intelligent logon scripts, file backup systems, etc. Most
everything I write though doesn't take a full blown perl install, just a
perl EXE and a perl DLL and the script. 
 
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http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm 
 
 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 12:24 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT


What?  Like simplesync? 
 
I was beginning to wonder if anyone was going to bring up perl for this
particular application.  It strikes me as the common glue for this
particular application that doesn't require the gnotes client software to be
installed.  i.e. self-sustaining. 
 
 
I think if I were not going to go with a COTS application I'd likely choose
something like perl to write it.  I have to agree that MIIS is way overkill
for this if this is your only usage scenario.  
 
Just curious, but why do you want to populate that data in AD? Seems silly
if nobody is using it for a directory other than admins.  Was there an
application that wants it? 
 


 
On 1/28/07, joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

I agree that MIIS could be convenient but only if it is already there or you
have other plans for it. If this was the only reason for it I would be more
apt to put something else together that had a far lower bar of entry such as
some basic scripts that are scheduled through task scheduler or made into a
service (Perl PSDK) or LDSU or some basic low end syncing tools that don't
require setting up a full blown SQL and MIIS server. 

 
--
O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm 
 
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 7:39 PM 

To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT


 


You can whack notes with ldifde or something. MIIS is a convenient way to do
it though.

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:08 PM 
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT


 

Ewww.  :)

 

Unless there are other needs that require MIIS I don't think I would deploy
it for this. MIIS is a 50 caliber when all that was probably needed was foam
pellet gun. 

 

I have seen folks doing this before, usually they get an LDIF extract from
Notes and just slam that into AD as contacts or mail-enabled users. Actually
getting the info out of Notes... no clue, I didn't even want to start
touching Exchange let alone any other messaging apps. I am happy just with
Windows Server 2003 SMTP and looking at the text files. ;o) 

 

 

 

--

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http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm  http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm  

 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:52 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org  mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

Have you looked at MIIS?

 

Laura

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas W Stelley
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:19 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org  mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
Subject: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT


Same topic, but this one is for Notes Admin/Gurus as well. 

I populate the mail attribute in AD with the Notes Users primary internet
address. Does anyone have a script or method that will allow me to publish
in AD the same info for groups and other addresses for users. 

Even something that can query Domino for all users and groups and return all
addresses into a file, I can use that as a basis to update AD with proxy
info etc. 
Thanks in advance. 

Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




Brian Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

01/26/2007 09:47 AM 


Please respond

RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

2007-01-27 Thread joe
Ewww.  :)
 
Unless there are other needs that require MIIS I don't think I would deploy
it for this. MIIS is a 50 caliber when all that was probably needed was foam
pellet gun. 
 
I have seen folks doing this before, usually they get an LDIF extract from
Notes and just slam that into AD as contacts or mail-enabled users. Actually
getting the info out of Notes... no clue, I didn't even want to start
touching Exchange let alone any other messaging apps. I am happy just with
Windows Server 2003 SMTP and looking at the text files. ;o)
 
 
 
--
O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm 
 
 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:52 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT


Have you looked at MIIS?
 
Laura


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas W Stelley
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:19 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT



Same topic, but this one is for Notes Admin/Gurus as well. 

I populate the mail attribute in AD with the Notes Users primary internet
address. Does anyone have a script or method that will allow me to publish
in AD the same info for groups and other addresses for users. 

Even something that can query Domino for all users and groups and return all
addresses into a file, I can use that as a basis to update AD with proxy
info etc. 
Thanks in advance. 

Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Brian Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


01/26/2007 09:47 AM 


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RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? 






Ah, yes, good call. Almost forgot that it changes that, too.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wells, James
Arthur
Sent: Friday 26 January 2007 08:44
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

It should also update the 'mail' attribute to the new primary SMTP:
address.


--James

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Cline
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:38 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

Out of curiosity, when setting a different primary e-mail address to an
address that already exists as a secondary, does ADUC do anything more
than change the prefix on the old primary address from 'SMTP' to 'smtp'
and vice-versa for the new primary?


Brian Cline, Applications Developer
Department of Information Technology
GP Trucking Company, Inc.
803.936.8595 Direct Line
800.922.1147 Toll-Free (x8595)
803.739.1176 Fax


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan
Sent: Thursday 25 January 2007 19:52
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

In addition to what Ulf said, there also isn't any practical way to
query 
for users that have secondary addresses vs. only having a primary and
there 
isn't any practical way to just get the secondary addresses out of the 
proxyAddresses attribute.  You essentially need to get all the data and
then 
check for the values that are prefixed with lower case smtp.

Maybe Joe R. has a neat trick with ADFind to make this easier, but LDAP 
itself doesn't help much.

Joe K.

- Original Message - 
From: Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?


Hi Stu,

I don't think there's a way to expose mulitvalued attributes with CSVDE
- 
you'd either have to use LDIFDE or VBScript or anything else to view all

values of those attributes.

Gruesse - Sincerely,
Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=35E388DE-4885-4308-B489-F2F1214
C811D
 Weblog: http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner
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Sent: Freitag, 26. Januar 2007 00:53
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

How does one go about getting the non-primary SMTP addresses for every 
Exchange user?  I can't seem to find a way via csvde, but maybe I'm
doing 
something wrong.  Thanks again. 

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RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

2007-01-27 Thread Brian Desmond
You can whack notes with ldifde or something. MIIS is a convenient way to do it 
though.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

c - 312.731.3132

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:08 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

Ewww.  :)

Unless there are other needs that require MIIS I don't think I would deploy it 
for this. MIIS is a 50 caliber when all that was probably needed was foam 
pellet gun.

I have seen folks doing this before, usually they get an LDIF extract from 
Notes and just slam that into AD as contacts or mail-enabled users. Actually 
getting the info out of Notes... no clue, I didn't even want to start touching 
Exchange let alone any other messaging apps. I am happy just with Windows 
Server 2003 SMTP and looking at the text files. ;o)



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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:52 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT
Have you looked at MIIS?

Laura


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas W Stelley
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:19 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

Same topic, but this one is for Notes Admin/Gurus as well.

I populate the mail attribute in AD with the Notes Users primary internet 
address. Does anyone have a script or method that will allow me to publish in 
AD the same info for groups and other addresses for users.

Even something that can query Domino for all users and groups and return all 
addresses into a file, I can use that as a basis to update AD with proxy info 
etc.
Thanks in advance.

Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Brian Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ah, yes, good call. Almost forgot that it changes that, too.


-Original Message-
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Arthur
Sent: Friday 26 January 2007 08:44
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

It should also update the 'mail' attribute to the new primary SMTP:
address.


--James

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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:38 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

Out of curiosity, when setting a different primary e-mail address to an
address that already exists as a secondary, does ADUC do anything more
than change the prefix on the old primary address from 'SMTP' to 'smtp'
and vice-versa for the new primary?


Brian Cline, Applications Developer
Department of Information Technology
GP Trucking Company, Inc.
803.936.8595 Direct Line
800.922.1147 Toll-Free (x8595)
803.739.1176 Fax


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan
Sent: Thursday 25 January 2007 19:52
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

In addition to what Ulf said, there also isn't any practical way to
query
for users that have secondary addresses vs. only having a primary and
there
isn't any practical way to just get the secondary addresses out of the
proxyAddresses attribute.  You essentially need to get all the data and
then
check for the values that are prefixed with lower case smtp.

Maybe Joe R. has a neat trick with ADFind to make this easier, but LDAP
itself doesn't help much.

Joe K.

- Original Message -
From: Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?


Hi Stu,

I don't think there's a way to expose mulitvalued attributes with CSVDE
-
you'd either have to use LDIFDE or VBScript or anything else to view all

values of those attributes.

Gruesse - Sincerely,
Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
 Profile  Publications:
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=35E388DE-4885-4308-B489-F2F1214
C811D
 Weblog: http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner
 Website: http://www.windowsserverfaq.org

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Packett
Sent: Freitag, 26. Januar 2007 00:53
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

How does one go about getting the non-primary SMTP addresses

[ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

2007-01-26 Thread Douglas W Stelley
Same topic, but this one is for Notes Admin/Gurus as well.

I populate the mail attribute in AD with the Notes Users primary internet 
address. Does anyone have a script or method that will allow me to publish 
in AD the same info for groups and other addresses for users.

Even something that can query Domino for all users and groups and return 
all addresses into a file, I can use that as a basis to update AD with 
proxy info etc.
Thanks in advance.

Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Ah, yes, good call. Almost forgot that it changes that, too.


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wells, James
Arthur
Sent: Friday 26 January 2007 08:44
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

It should also update the 'mail' attribute to the new primary SMTP:
address.


--James

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Cline
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:38 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

Out of curiosity, when setting a different primary e-mail address to an
address that already exists as a secondary, does ADUC do anything more
than change the prefix on the old primary address from 'SMTP' to 'smtp'
and vice-versa for the new primary?


Brian Cline, Applications Developer
Department of Information Technology
GP Trucking Company, Inc.
803.936.8595 Direct Line
800.922.1147 Toll-Free (x8595)
803.739.1176 Fax


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan
Sent: Thursday 25 January 2007 19:52
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

In addition to what Ulf said, there also isn't any practical way to
query 
for users that have secondary addresses vs. only having a primary and
there 
isn't any practical way to just get the secondary addresses out of the 
proxyAddresses attribute.  You essentially need to get all the data and
then 
check for the values that are prefixed with lower case smtp.

Maybe Joe R. has a neat trick with ADFind to make this easier, but LDAP 
itself doesn't help much.

Joe K.

- Original Message - 
From: Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?


Hi Stu,

I don't think there's a way to expose mulitvalued attributes with CSVDE
- 
you'd either have to use LDIFDE or VBScript or anything else to view all

values of those attributes.

Gruesse - Sincerely,
Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
  Profile  Publications: 
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=35E388DE-4885-4308-B489-F2F1214
C811D
  Weblog: http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner
  Website: http://www.windowsserverfaq.org

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Packett
Sent: Freitag, 26. Januar 2007 00:53
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

How does one go about getting the non-primary SMTP addresses for every 
Exchange user?  I can't seem to find a way via csvde, but maybe I'm
doing 
something wrong.  Thanks again. 

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RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

2007-01-26 Thread Laura A. Robinson
Have you looked at MIIS?
 
Laura


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT



Same topic, but this one is for Notes Admin/Gurus as well. 

I populate the mail attribute in AD with the Notes Users primary internet
address. Does anyone have a script or method that will allow me to publish
in AD the same info for groups and other addresses for users. 

Even something that can query Domino for all users and groups and return all
addresses into a file, I can use that as a basis to update AD with proxy
info etc. 
Thanks in advance. 

Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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Ah, yes, good call. Almost forgot that it changes that, too.


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wells, James
Arthur
Sent: Friday 26 January 2007 08:44
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

It should also update the 'mail' attribute to the new primary SMTP:
address.


--James

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:38 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

Out of curiosity, when setting a different primary e-mail address to an
address that already exists as a secondary, does ADUC do anything more
than change the prefix on the old primary address from 'SMTP' to 'smtp'
and vice-versa for the new primary?


Brian Cline, Applications Developer
Department of Information Technology
GP Trucking Company, Inc.
803.936.8595 Direct Line
800.922.1147 Toll-Free (x8595)
803.739.1176 Fax


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan
Sent: Thursday 25 January 2007 19:52
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

In addition to what Ulf said, there also isn't any practical way to
query 
for users that have secondary addresses vs. only having a primary and
there 
isn't any practical way to just get the secondary addresses out of the 
proxyAddresses attribute.  You essentially need to get all the data and
then 
check for the values that are prefixed with lower case smtp.

Maybe Joe R. has a neat trick with ADFind to make this easier, but LDAP 
itself doesn't help much.

Joe K.

- Original Message - 
From: Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?


Hi Stu,

I don't think there's a way to expose mulitvalued attributes with CSVDE
- 
you'd either have to use LDIFDE or VBScript or anything else to view all

values of those attributes.

Gruesse - Sincerely,
Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
 Profile  Publications: 
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=35E388DE-4885-4308-B489-F2F1214
C811D
 Weblog: http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner
 Website: http://www.windowsserverfaq.org

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Packett
Sent: Freitag, 26. Januar 2007 00:53
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

How does one go about getting the non-primary SMTP addresses for every 
Exchange user?  I can't seem to find a way via csvde, but maybe I'm
doing 
something wrong.  Thanks again. 

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RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

2007-01-26 Thread Douglas W Stelley
I really don't see that much in the enterprise version of MIIS that'll 
justify the cost. We have some tools/program files that query LDAP for 
valid email addresses (GFI for one). I'd just like to be able to pull all 
email addresses out of Lotus/Domino so I can populate AD correctly. Of 
course I could do it manually. And Domino does support and use LDAP, but I 
don't have enough experience with Domino to build a script.


Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Laura A. Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Have you looked at MIIS?
 
Laura

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:19 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT


Same topic, but this one is for Notes Admin/Gurus as well. 

I populate the mail attribute in AD with the Notes Users primary internet 
address. Does anyone have a script or method that will allow me to publish 
in AD the same info for groups and other addresses for users. 

Even something that can query Domino for all users and groups and return 
all addresses into a file, I can use that as a basis to update AD with 
proxy info etc. 
Thanks in advance. 

Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Brian Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Ah, yes, good call. Almost forgot that it changes that, too.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wells, James
Arthur
Sent: Friday 26 January 2007 08:44
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

It should also update the 'mail' attribute to the new primary SMTP:
address.


--James

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Cline
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:38 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

Out of curiosity, when setting a different primary e-mail address to an
address that already exists as a secondary, does ADUC do anything more
than change the prefix on the old primary address from 'SMTP' to 'smtp'
and vice-versa for the new primary?


Brian Cline, Applications Developer
Department of Information Technology
GP Trucking Company, Inc.
803.936.8595 Direct Line
800.922.1147 Toll-Free (x8595)
803.739.1176 Fax


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan
Sent: Thursday 25 January 2007 19:52
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

In addition to what Ulf said, there also isn't any practical way to
query 
for users that have secondary addresses vs. only having a primary and
there 
isn't any practical way to just get the secondary addresses out of the 
proxyAddresses attribute.  You essentially need to get all the data and
then 
check for the values that are prefixed with lower case smtp.

Maybe Joe R. has a neat trick with ADFind to make this easier, but LDAP 
itself doesn't help much.

Joe K.

- Original Message - 
From: Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?


Hi Stu,

I don't think there's a way to expose mulitvalued attributes with CSVDE
- 
you'd either have to use LDIFDE or VBScript or anything else to view all

values of those attributes.

Gruesse - Sincerely,
Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
 Profile  Publications: 
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=35E388DE-4885-4308-B489-F2F1214
C811D
 Weblog: http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner
 Website: http://www.windowsserverfaq.org

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Packett
Sent: Freitag, 26. Januar 2007 00:53
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

How does one go about getting the non-primary SMTP addresses for every 
Exchange user?  I can't seem to find a way via csvde, but maybe I'm
doing 
something wrong.  Thanks again. 

List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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Re: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

2007-01-26 Thread Joe Kaplan
I'd be pretty surprised if you can get ADSI to query Domino via LDAP, as 
ADSI likes to use Windows auth by default and depends on the LDAP directory 
to support the LDAP V3 subschemaSubentry rootDSE attribute to express its 
abstract schema in order for ADSI to map LDAP data types to COM datatypes. 
It might work, but I'd be more surprised if it did than didn't.  A lower 
level LDAP tool like ADFind might make more progress, though.


Having done a lot of Domino programming back in the day, my suggestion 
would be to write a LotusScript program that goes against the NAB and gets 
the addresses that way.  It would probably be less effort in the long run. 
If I was asked to do the exact same thing, that is definitely how I'd do it.


If you do get ADSI/LDAP via VBScript to work against Domino, I'd be curious 
to hear about it.  :)


Joe K.

- Original Message - 
From: Douglas W Stelley

To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT



I really don't see that much in the enterprise version of MIIS that'll 
justify the cost. We have some tools/program files that query LDAP for valid 
email addresses (GFI for one). I'd just like to be able to pull all email 
addresses out of Lotus/Domino so I can populate AD correctly. Of course I 
could do it manually. And Domino does support and use LDAP, but I don't have 
enough experience with Domino to build a script.



Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Laura A. Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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ToActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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Have you looked at MIIS?

Laura



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas W Stelley

Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:19 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT


Same topic, but this one is for Notes Admin/Gurus as well.

I populate the mail attribute in AD with the Notes Users primary internet 
address. Does anyone have a script or method that will allow me to publish 
in AD the same info for groups and other addresses for users.


Even something that can query Domino for all users and groups and return all 
addresses into a file, I can use that as a basis to update AD with proxy 
info etc.

Thanks in advance.

Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Brian Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
01/26/2007 09:47 AM
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SubjectRE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?









Ah, yes, good call. Almost forgot that it changes that, too.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wells, James
Arthur
Sent: Friday 26 January 2007 08:44
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

It should also update the 'mail' attribute to the new primary SMTP:
address.


--James

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Cline
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:38 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

Out of curiosity, when setting a different primary e-mail address to an
address that already exists as a secondary, does ADUC do anything more
than change the prefix on the old primary address from 'SMTP' to 'smtp'
and vice-versa for the new primary?


Brian Cline, Applications Developer
Department of Information Technology
GP Trucking Company, Inc.
803.936.8595 Direct Line
800.922.1147 Toll-Free (x8595)
803.739.1176 Fax


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan
Sent: Thursday 25 January 2007 19:52
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

In addition to what Ulf said, there also isn't any practical way to
query
for users that have secondary addresses vs. only having a primary and
there
isn't any practical way to just get the secondary addresses out of the
proxyAddresses attribute.  You essentially need to get all the data and
then
check for the values that are prefixed with lower case smtp.

Maybe Joe R. has a neat trick with ADFind to make this easier, but LDAP
itself doesn't help much.

Joe K.

- Original Message - 
From: Ulf B. Simon-Weidner

To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?


Hi Stu,

I don't think there's a way to expose mulitvalued attributes with CSVDE
-
you'd either have to use LDIFDE or VBScript or anything else

RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

2007-01-26 Thread Dave Wade
 
If you want to query Notes and AD in the same script you don't need to use 
LotusScript you can use VBSCRIPT. There is a a set of objects that allow access 
to NOTES provided you have the notes client installed. They are documented in 
the Notes help file. Basically they are the same as the interfaces LotusScript 
uses. I seem to recall that LotusScript is virtually the same as VB Script/VBA 
but tweaked enough so Lotus/IBM does not have to pay MS license for 
VBA/Vbscript.
 
I used to have some examples to do that and if you need them I could probably 
fish them out...
 
Dave.
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Joe Kaplan
Sent: Fri 26/01/2007 22:50
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT



I'd be pretty surprised if you can get ADSI to query Domino via LDAP, as
ADSI likes to use Windows auth by default and depends on the LDAP directory
to support the LDAP V3 subschemaSubentry rootDSE attribute to express its
abstract schema in order for ADSI to map LDAP data types to COM datatypes.
It might work, but I'd be more surprised if it did than didn't.  A lower
level LDAP tool like ADFind might make more progress, though.

Having done a lot of Domino programming back in the day, my suggestion
would be to write a LotusScript program that goes against the NAB and gets
the addresses that way.  It would probably be less effort in the long run.
If I was asked to do the exact same thing, that is definitely how I'd do it.

If you do get ADSI/LDAP via VBScript to work against Domino, I'd be curious
to hear about it.  :)

Joe K.

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From: Douglas W Stelley
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT



I really don't see that much in the enterprise version of MIIS that'll
justify the cost. We have some tools/program files that query LDAP for valid
email addresses (GFI for one). I'd just like to be able to pull all email
addresses out of Lotus/Domino so I can populate AD correctly. Of course I
could do it manually. And Domino does support and use LDAP, but I don't have
enough experience with Domino to build a script.


Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
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Have you looked at MIIS?

Laura



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Same topic, but this one is for Notes Admin/Gurus as well.

I populate the mail attribute in AD with the Notes Users primary internet
address. Does anyone have a script or method that will allow me to publish
in AD the same info for groups and other addresses for users.

Even something that can query Domino for all users and groups and return all
addresses into a file, I can use that as a basis to update AD with proxy
info etc.
Thanks in advance.

Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Ah, yes, good call. Almost forgot that it changes that, too.


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Arthur
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It should also update the 'mail' attribute to the new primary SMTP:
address.


--James

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Out of curiosity, when setting a different primary e-mail address to an
address that already exists as a secondary, does ADUC do anything more
than change the prefix on the old primary address from 'SMTP' to 'smtp'
and vice-versa for the new primary?


Brian Cline, Applications Developer
Department of Information Technology
GP Trucking Company, Inc.
803.936.8595 Direct Line
800.922.1147 Toll-Free (x8595)
803.739.1176 Fax


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In addition to what Ulf

Re: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT

2007-01-26 Thread Joe Kaplan
That's basically the same thing I was trying to get at.  I'm aware that you 
can call the Domino object model from COM.  I wrote so much LotusScript back 
in the day that I always tended to think of them as being synonymous.  :)


My overall point was that I didn't think you'd have much success with using 
ADSI and LDAP to query the Domino directory, but I'd love to see someone try 
it and prove me wrong.


I do like your idea of using COM to glue the two things together, either 
through script or some other thing that can do COM like PowerShell, VB6 or 
.NET (or C++ if you like that sort of thing).


Joe K.

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To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT



If you want to query Notes and AD in the same script you don't need to use 
LotusScript you can use VBSCRIPT. There is a a set of objects that allow 
access to NOTES provided you have the notes client installed. They are 
documented in the Notes help file. Basically they are the same as the 
interfaces LotusScript uses. I seem to recall that LotusScript is virtually 
the same as VB Script/VBA but tweaked enough so Lotus/IBM does not have to 
pay MS license for VBA/Vbscript.


I used to have some examples to do that and if you need them I could 
probably fish them out...


Dave.



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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT



I'd be pretty surprised if you can get ADSI to query Domino via LDAP, as
ADSI likes to use Windows auth by default and depends on the LDAP directory
to support the LDAP V3 subschemaSubentry rootDSE attribute to express its
abstract schema in order for ADSI to map LDAP data types to COM datatypes.
It might work, but I'd be more surprised if it did than didn't.  A lower
level LDAP tool like ADFind might make more progress, though.

Having done a lot of Domino programming back in the day, my suggestion
would be to write a LotusScript program that goes against the NAB and gets
the addresses that way.  It would probably be less effort in the long run.
If I was asked to do the exact same thing, that is definitely how I'd do it.

If you do get ADSI/LDAP via VBScript to work against Domino, I'd be curious
to hear about it.  :)

Joe K.

- Original Message -
From: Douglas W Stelley
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT



I really don't see that much in the enterprise version of MIIS that'll
justify the cost. We have some tools/program files that query LDAP for valid
email addresses (GFI for one). I'd just like to be able to pull all email
addresses out of Lotus/Domino so I can populate AD correctly. Of course I
could do it manually. And Domino does support and use LDAP, but I don't have
enough experience with Domino to build a script.


Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Have you looked at MIIS?

Laura



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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:19 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses? Slightly OT


Same topic, but this one is for Notes Admin/Gurus as well.

I populate the mail attribute in AD with the Notes Users primary internet
address. Does anyone have a script or method that will allow me to publish
in AD the same info for groups and other addresses for users.

Even something that can query Domino for all users and groups and return all
addresses into a file, I can use that as a basis to update AD with proxy
info etc.
Thanks in advance.

Douglas Stelley
IT Engineer
Seneca Nation Health Department
(716)532-5582 x5404
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Brian Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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01/26/2007 09:47 AM
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Ah, yes, good call. Almost forgot that it changes that, too.


-Original Message-
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Arthur
Sent: Friday 26 January 2007 08:44
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] How to find non-primary SMTP addresses?

It should also update the 'mail' attribute to the new primary SMTP:
address.


--James

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