[ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry

2006-08-04 Thread James Carter
   We had a static Server DNS entry deleted over the weekend.     Is there anyway to find out who deleted this entry? This is a Windows 2003 R2 server/domain     thanks     JAmes 
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry

2006-08-04 Thread neil.ruston



If the zone is stored in BIND (text) format then you'll 
struggle. 
 
If it's stored in AD and auditing is enabled, then an event 
should exist in the Security event log on the DC which received the delete 
request.
 
Do you have an enterprise security monitoring 
system?
 
 
neil


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ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS 
entry

 
We had a static Server DNS entry deleted over the weekend.
 
Is there anyway to find out who deleted this entry? This is a Windows 2003 
R2 server/domain
 
thanks
 
JAmes


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Re: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry

2006-08-04 Thread Paul Williams



If you've got the necessary auditing enabled in 
your domain, and you had auditing ACEs configured on the DNS zone (location 
depends, generally you'd set it on CN=MicrosoftDNS folder) then yes, you 
can.  But you'll have to search each DCs security event log for this 
info.
 
Otherwise, you can't get this info.  You can 
check the whenChanged attribute on the tombstoned record for a rough 
idea of when the deletion occurred and try and move from there by looking at 
logon events, again if you have auditing enabled.
 
If you're not using AD-Integrated DNS, then none 
of the above will really help.
 
 
--Paul

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  From: 
  James Carter 
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:09 
  PM
  Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry
  
   
  We had a static Server DNS entry deleted over the weekend.
   
  Is there anyway to find out who deleted this entry? This is a Windows 
  2003 R2 server/domain
   
  thanks
   
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Re: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry

2006-08-04 Thread HBooGz
hey guys,
 
could you point me to an article on how to setup audting for dns modifications and overall domain auditing ?
 
i've done auditing on the desktop level, just wondering whats changed..
 
 
On 8/4/06, Paul Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



If you've got the necessary auditing enabled in your domain, and you had auditing ACEs configured on the DNS zone (location depends, generally you'd set it on CN=MicrosoftDNS folder) then yes, you can.  But you'll have to search each DCs security event log for this info.

 
Otherwise, you can't get this info.  You can check the whenChanged attribute on the tombstoned record for a rough idea of when the deletion occurred and try and move from there by looking at logon events, again if you have auditing enabled.

 
If you're not using AD-Integrated DNS, then none of the above will really help.

 
 
--Paul



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From: James Carter
 
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 

Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:09 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry
 
 

We had a static Server DNS entry deleted over the weekend.
 
Is there anyway to find out who deleted this entry? This is a Windows 2003 R2 server/domain
 
thanks
 
JAmes


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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry

2006-08-07 Thread neil.ruston



That's a huge subject, a useful link is 
here:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/activedirectory/maintain/bpguide/part1/adsecp1.mspx
 
I'll give steps to audit DNS objects:
 
using adsiedit
1. Navigate to CN=MicrosoftDNS,CN=System (in the domain 
NC)
2. Right click, choose Properties, then select the Security 
tab and click Advanced
3. Select the Auditing tab
4. Click Add... and add group Everyone
5. Select "Apply onto" and choose "dnsZone 
objects"
6. Select 'Write all properties' Failed and 'Write all 
properties' Success
7. Click OK
8. Repeat steps 4 to 7 for object type 
dnsNode
9. Click OK, OK to close property 
sheets
 
The above will audit all writes to zone objects and DNS 
records which are stored in AD itself. 
 
As stated previously, if the zones are stored as text 
files, then there is little that can be audited.
 
hth,
neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
HBooGzSent: 05 August 2006 06:25To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS 
entry

hey guys,
 
could you point me to an article on how to setup audting for dns 
modifications and overall domain auditing ?
 
i've done auditing on the desktop level, just wondering whats 
changed..
 
 
On 8/4/06, Paul 
Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote: 

  
  
  If you've got the necessary auditing enabled in 
  your domain, and you had auditing ACEs configured on the DNS zone (location 
  depends, generally you'd set it on CN=MicrosoftDNS folder) then yes, you 
  can.  But you'll have to search each DCs security event log for this 
  info. 
   
  Otherwise, you can't get this info.  You 
  can check the whenChanged attribute on the tombstoned record for a 
  rough idea of when the deletion occurred and try and move from there by 
  looking at logon events, again if you have auditing enabled. 
   
  If you're not using AD-Integrated DNS, then 
  none of the above will really help.
  
   
   
  --Paul
  
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: James Carter 
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:09 
  PM
  Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry
   
   
  
  We had a static Server DNS entry deleted over the weekend.
   
  Is there anyway to find out who deleted this entry? This is a Windows 
  2003 R2 server/domain
   
  thanks
   
  JAmes
  
  
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry

2006-08-07 Thread James Carter
Neil,     Are there any risks by carrying out your change listed below or is it a straight forward procedure.     I don't think I have this enabled, if I do would that mean in the future if a DNS record is deleted this can be traced?     We use MOM here, is this something I could use?     thanks     Jim[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  That's a huge subject, a useful link is here:  http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/activedirectory/maintain/bpguide/part1/adsecp1.mspx     I'll give steps to audit DNS objects:     using adsiedit  1. Navigate to CN=MicrosoftDNS,CN=System (in the domain NC)  2. Right click, choose Properties, then select the Security tab and click Advanced  3. Select the Auditing tab  4. Click Add... and add group Everyone  5. Select "Apply onto" and choose "dnsZone objects"  6. Select 'Write all properties' Failed and 'Write all properties' Success  7. Click OK  8. Repeat steps 4 to 7 for object type dnsNode  9. Click OK, OK to close property sheets     The above will audit all writes to zone objects and DNS records which are stored in AD itself.      As stated previously, if the zones are stored as text files, then there is little that can be audited.     hth,  neil  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HBooGzSent: 05 August 2006 06:25To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entryhey guys,     could you point me to an article on how to setup audting for dns modifications and overall domain auditing ?     i've done auditing on the desktop level, just wondering whats
 changed..        On 8/4/06, Paul Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you've got the necessary auditing enabled in your domain, and you had auditing ACEs configured on the DNS zone (location depends, generally you'd set it on CN=MicrosoftDNS folder) then yes, you can.  But you'll have to search each DCs security event log for this info.      Otherwise, you can't get this info.  You can check the whenChanged attribute on the tombstoned record for a rough idea of when the deletion occurred and try and move from
 there by looking at logon events, again if you have auditing enabled.      If you're not using AD-Integrated DNS, then none of the above will really help.      --Paul- Original Message -   From: James Carter   To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:09 PM  Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry      We had a static Server DNS entry deleted over the weekend.     Is there anyway to find out who deleted this entry? This is a Windows 2003 R2 server/domain     thanks     JAmes  Do you Yahoo!?Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. -- HBooGz:\>   PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and   intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended   recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your   copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further   action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communication and   Nomura International plc ('NIplc') will not, to the extent permitted by law,   accept responsibility or liability for (a) the accuracy or completeness of,   or (b) the presence of any virus, worm or similar malicious or disabling   code in, this message or any attachment(s) to it. If verification of this   email is sought then please request a hard copy. Unless otherwise stated   this email: (1) is not, and should not be treated or relied upon as,   investment research; (2) contains views or opinions that are solely those of   the author and do not necessarily represent those of NIplc; (3) is intended   for informational purposes only and is not a recommendation, solicitation or   offer to buy or sell securities or related financial instruments. NIplc   does not provide investment services to private customers. Authorised and   regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Registered in England   no. 1550505 VAT No. 447
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry

2006-08-07 Thread neil.ruston



 

Neil,
 
Are there any risks by carrying out your change listed below or is it a 
straight forward procedure.[Neil Ruston] The steps merely add SACL entries to DNS 
objects - that will certainly result in more security events and a slight 
overhead on the DCs but you need to weigh that against the risk of *not* 
auditing this type of change. As usual, it depends upon your environment and 
your requirements. 
 
I don't think I have this enabled, if I do would that mean in the future if 
a DNS record is deleted this can be traced?[Neil 
Ruston] Yes, if the zone is stored in AD. 
 
We use MOM here, is this something I could use?[Neil 
Ruston] MOM is aimed at systems monitoring whilst this thread deals with 
security monitoring. MS don't have an app in that space (yet) altho other 
vendors do. NetPro, NetIQ and Quest are the usual suspects here. These 
vendors offer tools that help with tracing changes (or 'forensic analysis', to 
use the correct parlance :)
 
thanks
 
Jim[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  That's a huge subject, a useful link is 
  here:
  http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/activedirectory/maintain/bpguide/part1/adsecp1.mspx
   
  I'll give steps to audit DNS objects:
   
  using adsiedit
  1. Navigate to CN=MicrosoftDNS,CN=System (in the domain 
  NC)
  2. Right click, choose Properties, then select the 
  Security tab and click Advanced
  3. Select the Auditing tab
  4. Click Add... and add group 
Everyone
  5. Select "Apply onto" and choose "dnsZone 
  objects"
  6. Select 'Write all properties' Failed and 'Write 
  all properties' Success
  7. Click OK
  8. Repeat steps 4 to 7 for object type 
  dnsNode
  9. Click OK, OK to close property 
  sheets
   
  The above will audit all writes to zone objects and DNS 
  records which are stored in AD itself. 
   
  As stated previously, if the zones are stored as text 
  files, then there is little that can be audited.
   
  hth,
  neil
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  HBooGzSent: 05 August 2006 06:25To: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS 
  entry
  
  hey guys,
   
  could you point me to an article on how to setup audting for dns 
  modifications and overall domain auditing ?
   
  i've done auditing on the desktop level, just wondering whats 
  changed..
   
   
  On 8/4/06, Paul 
  Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote: 
  


If you've got the necessary auditing enabled 
in your domain, and you had auditing ACEs configured on the DNS zone 
(location depends, generally you'd set it on CN=MicrosoftDNS folder) then 
yes, you can.  But you'll have to search each DCs security event log 
for this info. 
 
Otherwise, you can't get this info.  You 
can check the whenChanged attribute on the tombstoned record for a 
rough idea of when the deletion occurred and try and move from there by 
looking at logon events, again if you have auditing enabled. 
 
If you're not using AD-Integrated DNS, then 
none of the above will really help.

 
 
--Paul



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From: James Carter 

To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 

Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:09 
PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS 
entry
 
 

We had a static Server DNS entry deleted over the weekend.
 
Is there anyway to find out who deleted this entry? This is a Windows 
2003 R2 server/domain
 
thanks
 
JAmes


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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry

2006-08-07 Thread James Carter
Neil,     thanks for your response, would you say the best way for me to view the audits would be from the Event Viewer console?     Jim[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Neil,     Are there any risks by carrying out your change listed below or is it a straight forward procedure.[Neil Ruston] The steps merely add SACL entries to DNS objects - that will certainly result in more security events and a slight overhead on the DCs but you need to weigh that against the risk of *not*
 auditing this type of change. As usual, it depends upon your environment and your requirements.      I don't think I have this enabled, if I do would that mean in the future if a DNS record is deleted this can be traced?[Neil Ruston] Yes, if the zone is stored in AD.      We use MOM here, is this something I could use?[Neil Ruston] MOM is aimed at systems monitoring whilst this thread deals with security monitoring. MS don't have an app in that space (yet) altho other vendors do. NetPro, NetIQ and Quest are the usual suspects here. These vendors offer tools that help with tracing changes (or 'forensic analysis', to use the correct
 parlance :)     thanks     Jim[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  That's a huge subject, a useful link is here:  http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/activedirectory/maintain/bpguide/part1/adsecp1.mspx     I'll give steps to audit DNS objects:     using adsiedit  1. Navigate to CN=MicrosoftDNS,CN=System (in the domain NC)  2. Right click, choose Properties, then select the Security tab and click Advanced  3. Select the Auditing tab  4. Click Add... and add group Everyone  5. Select "Apply onto" and choose "dnsZone objects"  6. Select 'Write all properties' Failed and 'Write all properties' Success  7. Click OK  8. Repeat steps 4 to 7 for object type dnsNode  9. Click OK, OK to close property sheets     The above will audit all writes to zone objects and DNS records which are stored in AD itself.      As stated previously, if the zones are stored as text files, then there is little that can be audited.     hth,  neil  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HBooGzSent: 05 August 2006 06:25To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entryhey guys,     could you point me to an article on how to setup audting for dns modifications and overall domain auditing ?     i've done auditing on the desktop level, just wondering whats changed..        On 8/4/06, Paul Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you've got the necessary auditing enabled in your domain, and you had auditing ACEs configured on the DNS zone (location depends, generally you'd set it on CN=MicrosoftDNS folder) then yes, you can.  But you'll have to search each DCs security event log for this info.      Otherwise, you can't get this info.  You can check the whenChanged attribute on the tombstoned record for a rough idea of when the deletion occurred and try and move from there by looking at logon events, again if you have auditing enabled.      If you're not using AD-Integrated DNS, then none of the above will really help.      --Paul- Original Message -   From: James Carter   To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:09 PM  Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS
 entry      We had a static Server DNS entry deleted over the weekend.     Is there anyway to find out who deleted this entry? This is a Windows 2003 R2 server/domain     thanks     JAmes  Do you Yahoo!?Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. -- HBooGz:\>   PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and   intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended   recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your   copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further   action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communication and   Nomura International plc ('NIplc') will not, to the extent permitted by law,   accept responsibility or liability for (a) the accuracy or completeness of,   or (b)
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry

2006-08-07 Thread ai-chung_chong








With large number of events registered in security log, it
will be more efficient if you use EventComb to extract the relevant log that
you need.

 

Regards,

 

Ai Chung

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Carter
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006
12:08 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS
entry



 



Neil,





 





thanks for your response, would you say the best way for me to view the
audits would be from the Event Viewer console?





 





Jim

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:





 



Neil,





 





Are there any risks by carrying out your change listed below or is it a
straight forward procedure.
[Neil Ruston] The steps merely add SACL
entries to DNS objects - that will certainly result in more security events and
a slight overhead on the DCs but you need to weigh that against the risk of
*not* auditing this type of change. As usual, it depends upon your environment
and your requirements. 





 





I don't think I have this enabled, if I do would that mean in the
future if a DNS record is deleted this can be traced?
[Neil Ruston] Yes, if the zone is stored in
AD. 





 





We use MOM here, is this something I could use?
[Neil Ruston] MOM is aimed at systems
monitoring whilst this thread deals with security monitoring. MS don't have an
app in that space (yet) altho other vendors do. NetPro, NetIQ and Quest are the
usual suspects here. These vendors offer tools that help with tracing
changes (or 'forensic analysis', to use the correct parlance :)





 





thanks





 





Jim

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:





That's a huge subject, a useful link is
here:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/activedirectory/maintain/bpguide/part1/adsecp1.mspx

 

I'll give steps to audit DNS objects:

 

using adsiedit

1. Navigate to CN=MicrosoftDNS,CN=System
(in the domain NC)

2. Right click, choose Properties, then
select the Security tab and click Advanced

3. Select the Auditing tab

4. Click Add... and add group Everyone

5. Select "Apply onto" and
choose "dnsZone objects"

6. Select 'Write all properties'
Failed and 'Write all properties' Success

7. Click OK

8. Repeat steps 4 to 7 for object type
dnsNode

9. Click OK, OK to close property sheets

 

The above will audit all writes to zone
objects and DNS records which are stored in AD itself. 

 

As stated previously, if the zones are
stored as text files, then there is little that can be audited.

 

hth,

neil







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of HBooGz
Sent: 05 August 2006 06:25
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS
entry



hey guys,





 





could you point me to an article on how to setup audting for dns
modifications and overall domain auditing ?





 





i've done auditing on the desktop level, just wondering whats changed..





 







 





On 8/4/06, Paul
Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: 







If you've got the necessary auditing enabled in your
domain, and you had auditing ACEs configured on the DNS zone (location depends,
generally you'd set it on CN=MicrosoftDNS folder) then yes, you can.  But
you'll have to search each DCs security event log for this info. 





 





Otherwise, you can't get this info.  You can check
the whenChanged
attribute on the tombstoned record for a rough idea of when the deletion
occurred and try and move from there by looking at logon events, again if you
have auditing enabled. 





 





If you're not using AD-Integrated DNS, then none of the
above will really help.









 





 





--Paul









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From: James Carter 





To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 









Sent: Friday, August 04,
2006 12:09 PM





Subject: [ActiveDir] OT:
DNS entry






 





 









We had a static Server DNS entry deleted over the weekend.





 





Is there anyway to find out who deleted this entry? This is a Windows
2003 R2 server/domain





 





thanks





 





JAmes











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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry

2006-08-07 Thread Marcus.Oh








I’ve been looking to do this
too… but specifically for records w/out a TTL.  In other words, I want to
capture static records only since dynamic will constantly change.  Any ideas?

 





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Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:35 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry





 

 



Neil,





 





Are there any risks by carrying out your change listed below
or is it a straight forward procedure.
[Neil
Ruston] The steps merely add SACL entries to DNS objects - that will
certainly result in more security events and a slight overhead on the DCs but
you need to weigh that against the risk of *not* auditing this type of change.
As usual, it depends upon your environment and your requirements. 





 





I don't think I have this enabled, if I do would that mean
in the future if a DNS record is deleted this can be traced?
[Neil
Ruston] Yes, if the zone is stored in AD. 





 





We use MOM here, is this something I could use?
[Neil
Ruston] MOM is aimed at systems monitoring whilst this thread deals with
security monitoring. MS don't have an app in that space (yet) altho other
vendors do. NetPro, NetIQ and Quest are the usual suspects here. These
vendors offer tools that help with tracing changes (or 'forensic analysis', to
use the correct parlance :)





 





thanks





 





Jim

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:





That's a huge subject, a useful link is here:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/activedirectory/maintain/bpguide/part1/adsecp1.mspx

 

I'll give steps to audit DNS objects:

 

using adsiedit

1. Navigate to CN=MicrosoftDNS,CN=System (in the domain NC)

2. Right click, choose Properties, then select the Security tab and
click Advanced

3. Select the Auditing tab

4. Click Add... and add group Everyone

5. Select "Apply onto" and choose "dnsZone
objects"

6. Select 'Write all properties' Failed and 'Write all
properties' Success

7. Click OK

8. Repeat steps 4 to 7 for object type dnsNode

9. Click OK, OK to close property sheets

 

The above will audit all writes to zone objects and DNS records
which are stored in AD itself. 

 

As stated previously, if the zones are stored as text files, then
there is little that can be audited.

 

hth,

neil







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 05 August 2006 06:25
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry



hey guys,





 





could you point me to an article on how to setup audting for
dns modifications and overall domain auditing ?





 





i've done auditing on the desktop level, just wondering
whats changed..





 







 





On 8/4/06, Paul Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 







If
you've got the necessary auditing enabled in your domain, and you had auditing
ACEs configured on the DNS zone (location depends, generally you'd set it on
CN=MicrosoftDNS folder) then yes, you can.  But you'll have to search each
DCs security event log for this info. 





 





Otherwise,
you can't get this info.  You can check the whenChanged attribute on the tombstoned
record for a rough idea of when the deletion occurred and try and move from
there by looking at logon events, again if you have auditing enabled. 





 





If
you're not using AD-Integrated DNS, then none of the above will really help.









 





 





--Paul









-
Original Message - 





From: James Carter 





To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 









Sent: Friday, August 04,
2006 12:09 PM





Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS
entry






 





 









We had a static Server DNS entry deleted over the weekend.





 





Is there anyway to find out who deleted this entry? This is
a Windows 2003 R2 server/domain





 





thanks





 





JAmes











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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry

2006-08-08 Thread neil.ruston



At a high level, I'd look to create a filter within the sec 
mon tool, such that objects updated by their owners were trapped in a different 
to those not changed by the owner. 
 
I'd ensure the tool used / purchased was capable of meeting 
any requirements.
 
neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 08 August 2006 05:51To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS 
entry


I’ve 
been looking to do this too… but specifically for records w/out a TTL.  In 
other words, I want to capture static records only since dynamic will constantly 
change.  Any ideas?
 


From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, August 07, 
2006 9:35 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: 
[ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry
 
 

Neil,

 

Are there any risks by carrying out your change listed below 
or is it a straight forward procedure.[Neil 
Ruston] The steps merely add SACL entries to DNS objects - that will 
certainly result in more security events and a slight overhead on the DCs but 
you need to weigh that against the risk of *not* auditing this type of change. 
As usual, it depends upon your environment and your 
requirements. 

 

I don't think I have this enabled, if I do would that mean in 
the future if a DNS record is deleted this can be traced?[Neil 
Ruston] Yes, if the zone is stored in AD. 

 

We use MOM here, is this something I could use?[Neil 
Ruston] MOM is aimed at systems monitoring whilst this thread deals with 
security monitoring. MS don't have an app in that space (yet) altho other 
vendors do. NetPro, NetIQ and Quest are the usual suspects here. These 
vendors offer tools that help with tracing changes (or 'forensic analysis', to 
use the correct parlance :)

 

thanks

 

Jim[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  That's 
  a huge subject, a useful link is here:
  http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/activedirectory/maintain/bpguide/part1/adsecp1.mspx
   
  I'll 
  give steps to audit DNS objects:
   
  using 
  adsiedit
  1. 
  Navigate to CN=MicrosoftDNS,CN=System (in the domain NC)
  2. 
  Right click, choose Properties, then select the Security tab and click 
  Advanced
  3. 
  Select the Auditing tab
  4. 
  Click Add... and add group Everyone
  5. 
  Select "Apply onto" and choose "dnsZone objects"
  6. 
  Select 'Write all properties' Failed and 'Write all properties' 
  Success
  7. 
  Click OK
  8. 
  Repeat steps 4 to 7 for object type dnsNode
  9. 
  Click OK, OK to close property sheets
   
  The 
  above will audit all writes to zone objects and DNS records which are stored 
  in AD itself. 
   
  As 
  stated previously, if the zones are stored as text files, then there is little 
  that can be audited.
   
  hth,
  neil
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of HBooGzSent: 05 August 2006 06:25To: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS 
  entry
  
  hey guys,
  
   
  
  could you point me to an article on how to setup audting 
  for dns modifications and overall domain auditing ?
  
   
  
  i've done auditing on the desktop level, just wondering 
  whats changed..
  
   
  
   
  
  On 8/4/06, Paul Williams 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  
  
  
  If you've got the 
  necessary auditing enabled in your domain, and you had auditing ACEs 
  configured on the DNS zone (location depends, generally you'd set it on 
  CN=MicrosoftDNS folder) then yes, you can.  But you'll have to search 
  each DCs security event log for this info. 
  
   
  
  Otherwise, you 
  can't get this info.  You can check the whenChanged attribute 
  on the tombstoned record for a rough idea of when the deletion occurred and 
  try and move from there by looking at logon events, again if you have auditing 
  enabled. 
  
   
  
  If you're not 
  using AD-Integrated DNS, then none of the above will really 
  help.
  
  
   
  
   
  
  --Paul
  
  
  - Original 
  Message - 
  
  From: James Carter 
  
  
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
  
  
  
  Sent: Friday, August 04, 
  2006 12:09 PM
  
  Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: 
  DNS entry
  
   
  
   
  
  
  We had a static Server DNS entry deleted over the 
  weekend.
  
   
  
  Is there anyway to find out who deleted this entry? This is 
  a Windows 2003 R2 server/domain
  
   
  
  thanks
  
   
  
  JAmes
  
  
  
  
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS entry

2006-08-08 Thread neil.ruston



er, no :) if you have more than 1 DC, then the task becomes 
too convoluted.
 
Use a 3rd party sec mon and auditing tool. I mentioned 
several vendors below.
 
 
neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James 
CarterSent: 07 August 2006 17:08To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS 
entry

Neil,
 
thanks for your response, would you say the best way for me to view the 
audits would be from the Event Viewer console?
 
Jim[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
   
  
  Neil,
   
  Are there any risks by carrying out your change listed below or is it a 
  straight forward procedure.[Neil Ruston] The steps merely add SACL entries to 
  DNS objects - that will certainly result in more security events and a slight 
  overhead on the DCs but you need to weigh that against the risk of *not* 
  auditing this type of change. As usual, it depends upon your environment and 
  your requirements. 
   
  I don't think I have this enabled, if I do would that mean in the future 
  if a DNS record is deleted this can be traced?[Neil 
  Ruston] Yes, if the zone is stored in AD. 
   
  We use MOM here, is this something I could use?[Neil 
  Ruston] MOM is aimed at systems monitoring whilst this thread deals with 
  security monitoring. MS don't have an app in that space (yet) altho other 
  vendors do. NetPro, NetIQ and Quest are the usual suspects here. These 
  vendors offer tools that help with tracing changes (or 'forensic analysis', to 
  use the correct parlance :)
   
  thanks
   
  Jim[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

That's a huge subject, a useful link is 
here:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/activedirectory/maintain/bpguide/part1/adsecp1.mspx
 
I'll give steps to audit DNS 
objects:
 
using adsiedit
1. Navigate to CN=MicrosoftDNS,CN=System (in the domain 
NC)
2. Right click, choose Properties, then select the 
Security tab and click Advanced
3. Select the Auditing tab
4. Click Add... and add group 
Everyone
5. Select "Apply onto" and choose "dnsZone 
objects"
6. Select 'Write all properties' Failed and 'Write 
all properties' Success
7. Click OK
8. Repeat steps 4 to 7 for object type 
dnsNode
9. Click OK, OK to close property 
sheets
 
The above will audit all writes to zone objects and DNS 
records which are stored in AD itself. 
 
As stated previously, if the zones are stored as text 
files, then there is little that can be audited.
 
hth,
neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
HBooGzSent: 05 August 2006 06:25To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS 
entry

hey guys,
 
could you point me to an article on how to setup audting for dns 
modifications and overall domain auditing ?
 
i've done auditing on the desktop level, just wondering whats 
changed..
 
 
On 8/4/06, Paul 
Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote: 

  
  
  If you've got the necessary auditing 
  enabled in your domain, and you had auditing ACEs configured on the DNS 
  zone (location depends, generally you'd set it on CN=MicrosoftDNS folder) 
  then yes, you can.  But you'll have to search each DCs security event 
  log for this info. 
   
  Otherwise, you can't get this info.  
  You can check the whenChanged attribute on the tombstoned record 
  for a rough idea of when the deletion occurred and try and move from there 
  by looking at logon events, again if you have auditing enabled. 
  
   
  If you're not using AD-Integrated DNS, then 
  none of the above will really help.
  
   
   
  --Paul
  
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: James Carter 
  
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:09 
  PM
  Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: DNS 
  entry
   
   
  
  We had a static Server DNS entry deleted over the weekend.
   
  Is there anyway to find out who deleted this entry? This is a Windows 
  2003 R2 server/domain
   
  thanks
   
  JAmes
  
  
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