[ActiveDir] Using a non-standard TLD in your domain name?

2004-05-12 Thread Celone, Mike



We are reviewing 
designs for our global AD environment and one suggestion what so usea 
non-standard TLD for our domain instead of the usual .com, org,net, 
etc. Onegroup is arguing that using a non-standard TLD is better for 
security. Can someone expand on this. When they were asked to they 
simply said theyheard it from a consultant. Are there any 
applications that will be expecting a normal TLDand may not work with a 
non-standard TLD?What are thepros/cons of using a non-standard 
TLD?

Mike Celone
Systems Specialist
Radio Frequency 
Systems
v 203-630-3311 x1031 
f 203-634-2027
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RE: [ActiveDir] Using a non-standard TLD in your domain name?

2004-05-12 Thread Rutherford, Robert
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To be 
honest I don't think you gain or lose anything buy using a non-standard TLD. 


For 
Security? It's like saying if I use a different domain name then that will be 
more secure? It's not less or more secure.

  
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  [ActiveDir] Using a non-standard TLD in your domain name?
  We are reviewing 
  designs for our global AD environment and one suggestion what so usea 
  non-standard TLD for our domain instead of the usual .com, org,net, 
  etc. Onegroup is arguing that using a non-standard TLD is better 
  for security. Can someone expand on this. When they were asked to 
  they simply said theyheard it from a consultant. Are there any 
  applications that will be expecting a normal TLDand may not work with a 
  non-standard TLD?What are thepros/cons of using a 
  non-standard TLD?
  
  Mike Celone
  Systems 
  Specialist
  Radio Frequency 
  Systems
  v 203-630-3311 x1031 
  f 203-634-2027
  m 203-537-2406
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RE: [ActiveDir] Using a non-standard TLD in your domain name?

2004-05-12 Thread joe



Yeah the namespace collision thought is the only thing that 
crossed my mind. But then I stood next to Roger drinking beer while he went on 
about that subject to some depth a few weeks back and when Roger tells you 
something when you are standing next to him... You listen. 
:o)

 joe


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger 
SeielstadSent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:24 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Using a 
non-standard TLD in your domain name?

I prefer to use registered, valid TLD's, but not publishing 
the DNS zones to the outside world. That's what we've done here, and its been 
very successful for the last 2-3 years. I would register a different domain than 
your corporate domain, however.

I've been through a number of corporate mergers and 
acquitisons, and knowing that you won't have a namespace collision is critical 
for those.

Roger
-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - 
MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. 



  
  
  From: Celone, Mike 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 
  8:39 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: 
  [ActiveDir] Using a non-standard TLD in your domain name?
  
  We are reviewing 
  designs for our global AD environment and one suggestion what so usea 
  non-standard TLD for our domain instead of the usual .com, org,net, 
  etc. Onegroup is arguing that using a non-standard TLD is better 
  for security. Can someone expand on this. When they were asked to 
  they simply said theyheard it from a consultant. Are there any 
  applications that will be expecting a normal TLDand may not work with a 
  non-standard TLD?What are thepros/cons of using a 
  non-standard TLD?
  
  Mike Celone
  Systems 
  Specialist
  Radio Frequency 
  Systems
  v 203-630-3311 x1031 
  f 203-634-2027
  m 203-537-2406
  


RE: [ActiveDir] Using a non-standard TLD in your domain name?

2004-05-12 Thread Rich Milburn








Ive heard arguments about not
confusing publicly-accessible domain names with internal AD domain names
(.local gives it away that its not accessible from the Internet by name), the value there could be debated
but Ive used it or maintained it that way and it does help a little 
except when you have to explain to people not to make it company.local.com J). From a security
aspect someones definitely not going to register the internal name if its
company.local, which I suppose could happen with a real TLD suffix, but all you
do by avoiding external name resolution is foil about 1.5% of hackers out
there. 



Rich





Rich Milburn

MCSE, Microsoft MVP -
Directory Services

Sr Network Analyst, Field
Platform Development

Applebee's International,
Inc.

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Yeah the namespace collision thought is
the only thing that crossed my mind. But then I stood next to Roger drinking
beer while he went on about that subject to some depth a few weeks back and
when Roger tells you something when you are standing next to him... You listen.
:o)



 joe









From:
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Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:24
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Using a
non-standard TLD in your domain name?

I prefer to use registered, valid TLD's,
but not publishing the DNS zones to the outside world. That's what we've done
here, and its been very successful for the last 2-3 years. I would register a
different domain than your corporate domain, however.



I've been through a number of corporate
mergers and acquitisons, and knowing that you won't have a namespace collision
is critical for those.









Roger





--

Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis Inc. 



















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Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Using a
non-standard TLD in your domain name?



We are reviewing designs for our global AD environment and
one suggestion what so usea non-standard TLD for our domain instead of
the usual .com, org,net, etc. Onegroup is arguing that using
a non-standard TLD is better for security. Can someone expand on
this. When they were asked to they simply said theyheard it from a
consultant. Are there any applications that will be expecting a normal
TLDand may not work with a non-standard TLD?What are
thepros/cons of using a non-standard TLD?









Mike Celone

Systems Specialist

Radio Frequency Systems

v 203-630-3311 x1031 

f 203-634-2027

m 203-537-2406















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