RE: [ActiveDir] how can you trace a logon

2003-08-20 Thread Roger Seielstad
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THat 
sounds like there's a GPO or local security policy set on that machine that's 
causing the issue - GPO's assigned to computers tend to be applied most heavily 
during the boot process.
 
Roger
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  -Original Message-From: jalen richard 
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  [ActiveDir] how can you trace a logon
  After entering the credentials especially during a bootup or a restart. 
  The screen is blank (blue) for approx 2 1/2 - 3 minutes then 
  the applying of network connection and personal settings appears or vice versa 
  . If you log off and back on the duration is about 30 sec. to 
  loading of desktop. This is happening on the client (2kpro and 
  XP) and all of Windows 2k and AS 
  servers.  Tim Hines 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  



I agree that netmon is the way to go.  
There is a good whitepaper that breaks down the logon traffic that you will 
see in a trace.  You can read it at
 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url="">
 
What do you see on the screen when you 
experience the delays?   Do you experience a delay getting to the 
logon screen or is it after you enter credentials? 
 
Tim Hines, MCSE, MCSA
 

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  I would like to know if there is a log or a tool that can show what 
  is happening from the time you logon from begining to end. There seem to 
  be some delays and i would like to know what the are. 
   
  Thanks 
  jalen
  
  
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Re: [ActiveDir] how can you trace a logon

2003-08-19 Thread jalen richard
After entering the credentials especially during a bootup or a restart. The screen is blank (blue) for approx 2 1/2 - 3 minutes then the applying of network connection and personal settings appears or vice versa . If you log off and back on the duration is about 30 sec. to loading of desktop. This is happening on the client (2kpro and XP) and all of Windows 2k and AS servers.  Tim Hines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




I agree that netmon is the way to go.  There is a good whitepaper that breaks down the logon traffic that you will see in a trace.  You can read it at
 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url="">
 
What do you see on the screen when you experience the delays?   Do you experience a delay getting to the logon screen or is it after you enter credentials? 
 
Tim Hines, MCSE, MCSA
 

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I would like to know if there is a log or a tool that can show what is happening from the time you logon from begining to end. There seem to be some delays and i would like to know what the are. 
 
Thanks 
jalen


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RE: [ActiveDir] how can you trace a logon

2003-08-19 Thread jalen richard
Thanks Darren, I will let you know the outcomeDarren Mar-Elia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jalen-There's probably a few ways you can do this, depending upon where the problem is. One thing I've done in the past is use a network sniffer tool like MS' Network Monitor (from SMS) to look at network latencies during logon. This can cover issues where you suspect things like lengthy DNS responses, AD issues, GC lookup issues, etc. Of course, you have to be comfortable poring over network traces, but it can be remarkably insightful. To find out where time is being spent during the loading of the user's profile and the processing of Group Policy, then I would recommend enabling verbose userenv.log logging (check out this article for details: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;221833) That log will timestamp and describe every event during the logon process related to profiles and policies in gruesome detail.Good luck,DarrenDarren
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Re: [ActiveDir] how can you trace a logon

2003-08-19 Thread Tim Hines



I agree that netmon is the way to go.  There 
is a good whitepaper that breaks down the logon traffic that you will see in a 
trace.  You can read it at
 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url="">
 
What do you see on the screen when you experience 
the delays?   Do you experience a delay getting to the logon screen or 
is it after you enter credentials? 
 
Tim Hines, MCSE, MCSA
 

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  From: 
  jalen richard 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:40 
  PM
  Subject: [ActiveDir] how can you trace a 
  logon
  
  I would like to know if there is a log or a tool that can show what is 
  happening from the time you logon from begining to end. There seem to be some 
  delays and i would like to know what the are. 
   
  Thanks 
  jalen
  
  
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RE: [ActiveDir] how can you trace a logon

2003-08-18 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
Jalen-
 
There's probably a few ways you can do this, depending upon where the problem is. One 
thing I've done in the past is use a network sniffer tool like MS' Network Monitor 
(from SMS)  to look at network latencies during logon. This can cover issues where you 
suspect things like lengthy DNS responses, AD issues, GC lookup issues, etc. Of 
course, you have to be comfortable poring over network traces, but it can be 
remarkably insightful. To find out where time is being spent during the loading of the 
user's profile and the processing of Group Policy, then I would recommend enabling 
verbose userenv.log logging (check out this article for details: 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;221833) That log will 
timestamp and describe every event during the logon process related to profiles and 
policies in gruesome detail.
Good luck,
 
Darren
 
Darren Mar-Elia
CTO--MS Business Unit, Quest Software 

 
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From: jalen richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Mon 8/18/2003 7:40 PM 
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I would like to know if there is a log or a tool that can show what is 
happening from the time you logon from begining to end. There seem to be some delays 
and i would like to know what the are. 
 
Thanks 
jalen


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[ActiveDir] how can you trace a logon

2003-08-18 Thread jalen richard
I would like to know if there is a log or a tool that can show what is happening from the time you logon from begining to end. There seem to be some delays and i would like to know what the are. 
 
Thanks 
jalen
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