RE: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

[Roger Seielstad]

Title: Message



75% 
of our users have laptops, and they do tend to move around a 
lot.

Also, 
its a holdover from when we had Win95 everywhere - we used to have a lot of 
problems with boxes holding onto IP's even after changing subnets, so we forced 
them to have to look every two hours (i.e. half the lease 
time)


-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - 
MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. 

  
  -Original Message-From: Arendt, Jordan 
  LRN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 
  10, 2004 4:40 PMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Changing 
  DHCP Servers
  
  Wow! Do you 
  have really mobile users? Why 4 hours? Just 
  curious.
  
  Jordan
  
  
  
  
  
  From: Roger 
  Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 10, 2004 1:27 
  PMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP 
  Servers
  
  
  Actually, there's 
  another piece.
  
  
  
  I push the install 
  far enough out that I can drop the lease duration to an hour. Just in case. 
  Then again, my leases are all 4 hours to begin with, so I don't have to wait 
  too long...
  
  
  
  
  -- 
  Roger D. Seielstad - 
  MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems 
  Administrator Inovis 
  Inc. 

RE: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

[Santhosh Sivarajan]

Dont forget to change the IP helper
address. 











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Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004
7:52 AM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP
Servers





Everyone



I have added a w2k3 DC into our network and am gradually
giving it more responsibility, so far so good.

The next thing I want to do is make it our DHCP server (currently
being held by win2k server that is going to be formatted and made into w2k3).

I have created an identical scope on the new box but have
not activated it. 

Is it just a matter of deactivating the old and activating
the new, or is it more involved than that?



Thank You



Jerry 

Scicom Data Services

Minnetonka,Mn

RE: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

[Santhosh Sivarajan]

Oh! Authorize the DHCP Sever in AD











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Servers





Everyone



I have added a w2k3 DC into our network and am gradually giving
it more responsibility, so far so good.

The next thing I want to do is make it our DHCP server
(currently being held by win2k server that is going to be formatted and made
into w2k3).

I have created an identical scope on the new box but have
not activated it. 

Is it just a matter of deactivating the old and activating
the new, or is it more involved than that?



Thank You



Jerry 

Scicom Data Services

Minnetonka,Mn

RE: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

[Celone, Mike]

There's a utility in the Win2k Resource kit called 
DHCPEXIM. You can also get it here http://tinyurl.com/36j2m. I know it 
works for Win2k, not sure about Win2k3 though. 


Mike Celone
Systems Specialist
Radio Frequency 
Systems
v 203-630-3311 x1031 
f 203-634-2027
m 203-537-2406



From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 8:52 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP 
Servers


Everyone

I have added a w2k3 DC into our 
network and am gradually giving it more responsibility, so far so 
good.
The next thing I want to do is make 
it our DHCP server (currently being held by win2k server that is going to be 
formatted and made into w2k3).
I have created an identical scope on 
the new box but have not activated it. 
Is it just a matter of deactivating 
the old and activating the new, or is it more involved than 
that?

Thank You

Jerry 
Scicom Data 
Services
Minnetonka,Mn

RE: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

[mathif]

Yes, 
if you have the same ip address for new DHCP Server + i guess the clients shuld 
renew their ipaddress again


  -Original Message-From: Jerry Johnson 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:52 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] 
  Changing DHCP Servers
  
  Everyone
  
  I have added a w2k3 DC into our 
  network and am gradually giving it more responsibility, so far so 
  good.
  The next thing I want to do is 
  make it our DHCP server (currently being held by win2k server that is going to 
  be formatted and made into w2k3).
  I have created an identical scope 
  on the new box but have not activated it. 
  Is it just a matter of 
  deactivating the old and activating the new, or is it more involved than 
  that?
  
  Thank You
  
  Jerry 
  Scicom Data 
  Services
  Minnetonka,Mn
  
  




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RE: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

[Santhosh Sivarajan]

It wont work with Windows 2003. But you can use Netsh command to
import to windows 2003. Here is the syntax



Netsh

DHCP

Server

Import File Name All



Thanks,

Santhosh











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Behalf Of Celone, Mike
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DHCP Servers





There's a utility in the Win2k Resource
kit called DHCPEXIM. You can also get it here http://tinyurl.com/36j2m. I know it
works for Win2k, not sure about Win2k3 though. 







Mike Celone

Systems Specialist

Radio Frequency Systems

v 203-630-3311 x1031 

f 203-634-2027

m 203-537-2406















From: Jerry
Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004
8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP
Servers

Everyone



I have added a w2k3 DC into our network and am gradually
giving it more responsibility, so far so good.

The next thing I want to do is make it our DHCP server
(currently being held by win2k server that is going to be formatted and made
into w2k3).

I have created an identical scope on the new box but have
not activated it. 

Is it just a matter of deactivating the old and activating
the new, or is it more involved than that?



Thank You



Jerry 

Scicom Data Services

Minnetonka,Mn

RE: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

[rrutherford]

MS have a tool called DHCPexim... http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/tools/new/dhcpexim-o.asp

I'm not sure if it works under 2003
but I've used it a few times under 2000 with no problems.

Robert Rutherford
+44 (0)1305 208232
+44 (0)7970 122362






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Yes, if you have the same
ip address for new DHCP Server + i guess the clients shuld renew their
ip address again

-Original Message-
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

Everyone

I have added a w2k3 DC into our network and
am gradually giving it more responsibility, so far so good.
The next thing I want to do is make it our
DHCP server (currently being held by win2k server that is going to be formatted
and made into w2k3).
I have created an identical scope on the
new box but have not activated it. 
Is it just a matter of deactivating the old
and activating the new, or is it more involved than that?

Thank You

Jerry 
Scicom Data Services
Minnetonka,Mn




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RE: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

[Ken Cornetet]

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DHCPExim does not work (or at least isn't supported) on 2003, but you 
don't need it. See KB 325473

  
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  I'm not sure if it works under 2003 but 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:52 
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  Changing DHCP ServersEveryone 
   I have added a w2k3 DC into our network and am gradually giving it more 
  responsibility, so far so good. The next 
  thing I want to do is make it our DHCP server (currently being held by win2k 
  server that is going to be formatted and made into w2k3). I have created an identical scope on the new box but have 
  not activated it. Is it just a matter of 
  deactivating the old and activating the new, or is it more involved than 
  that?  Thank You  Jerry Scicom Data Services Minnetonka,Mn   
  
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RE: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

[Rich Milburn]

Even without the same IP, clients will
check their DHCP server that the lease is still valid up until a certain point,
then theyll look for any DHCP server. They might (I think they do,
IIRC) log errors in the event log, but the clients will switch to the new DHCP
server without any problems after a certain amount of time. This is without
moving the database, IP, or anything like that  just standing up a new
DHCP server and authorizing it and deactivating the scope on the old one. Not
the prettiest way to do it, but it works fine.



Rich











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Yes, if you have
the same ip address for new DHCP Server + i guess the clients shuld renew their
ipaddress again











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4:52 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP
Servers

Everyone



I have added a w2k3 DC into our network and am gradually
giving it more responsibility, so far so good.

The next thing I want to do is make it our DHCP server
(currently being held by win2k server that is going to be formatted and made
into w2k3).

I have created an identical scope on the new box but have
not activated it. 

Is it just a matter of deactivating the old and activating
the new, or is it more involved than that?



Thank You



Jerry 

Scicom Data Services

Minnetonka,Mn















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RE: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

[Roger Seielstad]

Title: Message



I'd 
suggest against running DHCP on a domain controller, due to a know security 
issue. However, its a fairly small window of opportunity, but it is a ugly hole 
if it is exploited.


-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - 
MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. 

  
  -Original Message-From: Jerry Johnson 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 8:52 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] 
  Changing DHCP Servers
  
  Everyone
  
  I have added a w2k3 DC into our 
  network and am gradually giving it more responsibility, so far so 
  good.
  The next thing I want to do is 
  make it our DHCP server (currently being held by win2k server that is going to 
  be formatted and made into w2k3).
  I have created an identical scope 
  on the new box but have not activated it. 
  Is it just a matter of 
  deactivating the old and activating the new, or is it more involved than 
  that?
  
  Thank You
  
  Jerry 
  Scicom Data 
  Services
  Minnetonka,Mn
  
  

RE: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

[Santhosh Sivarajan]

Title: Message








It wont work with Windows 2003. But you can use Netsh command to
import to windows 2003. Here is the syntax



Netsh

DHCP

Server

Import File Name All













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Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004
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DHCP Servers







DHCPExim does not work (or at least isn't
supported) on 2003, but you don't need it. See KB 325473





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DHCP Servers


MS have a tool called DHCPexim...
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/tools/new/dhcpexim-o.asp


I'm
not sure if it works under 2003 but I've used it a few times under 2000 with no
problems. 

Robert Rutherford
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Yes, if you have the same ip address for new DHCP
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Message-
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

Everyone

 
I have
added a w2k3 DC into our network and am gradually giving it more
responsibility, so far so good. 
The
next thing I want to do is make it our DHCP server (currently being held by
win2k server that is going to be formatted and made into w2k3). 
I have
created an identical scope on the new box but have not activated it. 
Is it
just a matter of deactivating the old and activating the new, or is it more
involved than that? 
 
Thank
You 
 
Jerry 
Scicom
Data Services 
Minnetonka,Mn

 
 



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RE: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

[GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1)]

Title: Message



Roger makes an important point - shouldn't forget that 
clients can "use" the DHCP server to hijack the DCs address simply by 
registering the same name (MS DHCP servers will happily overwrite their own name 
record in DNS, if configured to register client's names in DNS 
!!!)

however, as this is a Win2k3 DC, you can aleviate this 
security hole by running the DHCP service under a different security context 
(instead of allowing it to register records using the machine's LSA account) 
= this way it won't be able to overwrite i's own and thus the DC's records 
in DNS...

/Guido


From: Roger Seielstad 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dienstag, 10. Februar 2004 
16:38To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: 
[ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

I'd 
suggest against running DHCP on a domain controller, due to a know security 
issue. However, its a fairly small window of opportunity, but it is a ugly hole 
if it is exploited.


-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - 
MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. 

  
  -Original Message-From: Jerry Johnson 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 8:52 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] 
  Changing DHCP Servers
  
  Everyone
  
  I have added a w2k3 DC into our 
  network and am gradually giving it more responsibility, so far so 
  good.
  The next thing I want to do is 
  make it our DHCP server (currently being held by win2k server that is going to 
  be formatted and made into w2k3).
  I have created an identical scope 
  on the new box but have not activated it. 
  Is it just a matter of 
  deactivating the old and activating the new, or is it more involved than 
  that?
  
  Thank You
  
  Jerry 
  Scicom Data 
  Services
  Minnetonka,Mn
  
  

RE: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

[Frank Buechler]

Title: Message



I 
agree, but in my case I have no choice. But, as to your question, yes it is as 
simple
as 
that. Just deactivate the scope on the win2k box, and activate it on your w2k3 
box. One
thing 
I noticed, shutting down DHCP server on the w2k3 box and restarting it was 
necessary.
Don't 
ask me why, it just was.

  -Original Message-From: Roger Seielstad 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 
  10:38 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers
  I'd 
  suggest against running DHCP on a domain controller, due to a know security 
  issue. However, its a fairly small window of opportunity, but it is a ugly 
  hole if it is exploited.
  
  
  -- 
  Roger D. Seielstad 
  - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. 
  
  

-Original Message-From: Jerry Johnson 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 
8:52 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
[ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

Everyone

I have added a w2k3 DC into our 
network and am gradually giving it more responsibility, so far so 
good.
The next thing I want to do is 
make it our DHCP server (currently being held by win2k server that is going 
to be formatted and made into w2k3).
I have created an identical 
scope on the new box but have not activated it. 
Is it just a matter of 
deactivating the old and activating the new, or is it more involved than 
that?

Thank You

Jerry 
Scicom Data 
Services
Minnetonka,Mn

RE: [ActiveDir] Changing DHCP Servers

[Arendt, Jordan LRN]

Title: Message








Wow! Do you have really mobile users?
Why 4 hours? Just curious.



Jordan











From: Roger Seielstad
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: February 10, 2004 1:27 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Changing
DHCP Servers







Actually, there's another piece.











I push the install far enough out that I
can drop the lease duration to an hour. Just in case. Then again, my leases are
all 4 hours to begin with, so I don't have to wait too long...















--

Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis Inc.