RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT - FIXED :- )
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT - FIXED :- ) I haven't moved anymore machines in the lab yet. I'll be migrating about 25 machines or so Wed night and I can let you know how it goes then. Mike Celone Systems Specialist Radio Frequency Systems v 203-630-3311 x1031 f 203-634-2027 m 203-537-2406 -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT - FIXED :- ) Thanks for the update Tim. 7 min calculation according to my testing in the lab. I believe Mike is also doing the same testing in the lab. Mike, Do you have any update for us? Santhosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Wright, T. MR NSSB Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 9:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT - FIXED :- ) Santosh/Mike, We successfully migrated about 6000 computers using ADMT ver.2 set to reboot 1 min. after completion. Santosh, I'm not sure where you are getting the 7 min. from. ADMT issues a message to the workstation to start ADMTagent.exe, immediately after you click the close button. You can verify this by looking in Task Manager on the machine you are trying to migrate, you should see ADMTagent listed in the active processes. It could actually take much longer or much shorter depending on the amount of data and profiles that are on the machine which you are trying to migrate. The more data the longer it will take. We migrated a 2TB file server and it took about an hour. HTH, -Tim -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT - FIXED :- ) Mike Sudhir, My computer migration problem has been fixed! I learned something today, Be patient. Here is the time calculation according to my testing. If you select the 5 minutes option during the computer migration, the actual restart time = 7min + selected 5 min is a total of 12 min. If you select 1 min, the restart time = 7 min + 1 min. 7 min is a fixed time for ADMT to issue a message to the workstation. After that 7 min you will see the shutdown message and it will give you the selected time during the computer migration(5, 1 etc). 7 min is according to my testing in the lab but I think the MS actual value is 5 min. Mike, I would recommend you test in the lab with a 1 min option and wait for 8 min. You will see the restart message on the workstation. Good luck and be patient :- ) Thanks, Santhosh From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Santhosh Sivarajan Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Thanks Mike. I am going to test your solution in the lab today! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Celone, Mike Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 7:42 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Santosh, I moved a total of 3 machines yesterday in our lab and was able to get them to reboot successfully. Instead of changing the time to 1 minute I left it at 5. Those machines rebooted without issue. I then tried again changing the time to 1 minute. Those machines would not reboot. It seems if you change the time to less than 5 minutes it does not issue a reboot. As for the below error messages you will see them in the logs if you just do a test and not a migration. Every test I've done using ADMT displays the 2nd error message in the logs. Mike From: Sudhir Kaushal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:17 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, It is true that account is created but the machines just dont reboot. In my case i tried even changing the time from 1 min to 5 min. But the machines just dont reboot. Even after rebooting the machines manually, the domain name remained the same. After checking the logs on c:\temp on the clients machine i found this error failed to change the domain affiliation (hr=8007054b), the specified domain does not exist or could not be contacted . Because of this i concluded that account creation on the Target domain is may be because of ADMT agent, which gets properly installed on the client machine and do the necessary changes, but client is not able to contact the Target domain and hence dont reboot on their own. The other most common error i have seen in the logs is that hr=800706fb The security database on the server does not have a computer account for this workstation trust
RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT - FIXED :- )
Thanks for the update Tim. 7 min calculation according to my testing in the lab. I believe Mike is also doing the same testing in the lab. Mike, Do you have any update for us? Santhosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wright, T. MR NSSB Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 9:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT - FIXED :- ) Santosh/Mike, We successfully migrated about 6000 computers using ADMT ver.2 set to reboot 1 min. after completion. Santosh, I'm not sure where you are getting the 7 min. from. ADMT issues a message to the workstation to start ADMTagent.exe, immediately after you click the close button. You can verify this by looking in Task Manager on the machine you are trying to migrate, you should see ADMTagent listed in the active processes. It could actually take much longer or much shorter depending on the amount of data and profiles that are on the machine which you are trying to migrate. The more data the longer it will take. We migrated a 2TB file server and it took about an hour. HTH, -Tim -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT - FIXED :- ) Mike Sudhir, My computer migration problem has been fixed! I learned something today, Be patient. Here is the time calculation according to my testing. If you select the 5 minutes option during the computer migration, the actual restart time = 7min + selected 5 min is a total of 12 min. If you select 1 min, the restart time = 7 min + 1 min. 7 min is a fixed time for ADMT to issue a message to the workstation. After that 7 min you will see the shutdown message and it will give you the selected time during the computer migration(5, 1 etc). 7 min is according to my testing in the lab but I think the MS actual value is 5 min. Mike, I would recommend you test in the lab with a 1 min option and wait for 8 min. You will see the restart message on the workstation. Good luck and be patient :- ) Thanks, Santhosh From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Santhosh Sivarajan Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Thanks Mike. I am going to test your solution in the lab today! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Celone, Mike Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 7:42 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Santosh, I moved a total of 3 machines yesterday in our lab and was able to get them to reboot successfully. Instead of changing the time to 1 minute I left it at 5. Those machines rebooted without issue. I then tried again changing the time to 1 minute. Those machines would not reboot. It seems if you change the time to less than 5 minutes it does not issue a reboot. As for the below error messages you will see them in the logs if you just do a test and not a migration. Every test I've done using ADMT displays the 2nd error message in the logs. Mike From: Sudhir Kaushal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:17 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, It is true that account is created but the machines just dont reboot. In my case i tried even changing the time from 1 min to 5 min. But the machines just dont reboot. Even after rebooting the machines manually, the domain name remained the same. After checking the logs on c:\temp on the clients machine i found this error failed to change the domain affiliation (hr=8007054b), the specified domain does not exist or could not be contacted . Because of this i concluded that account creation on the Target domain is may be because of ADMT agent, which gets properly installed on the client machine and do the necessary changes, but client is not able to contact the Target domain and hence dont reboot on their own. The other most common error i have seen in the logs is that hr=800706fb The security database on the server does not have a computer account for this workstation trust relationship. Again I guess this is related with the Administrative permission in the domain. Santosh what error you are getting in the logs? Regards, Sudhir Kaushal Systems Administrator ( Hosted Team ) eGain Communications Pvt. Ltd. Hello - (+91 20) 4222812, (+91 20) 4228607, Ext-126 -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Yes. you are right mike. I don't think it is due to name
RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Santosh, I moved a total of 3 machines yesterday in our lab and was able to get them to reboot successfully. Instead of changing the time to 1 minute I left it at 5. Those machines rebooted without issue. I then tried again changing the time to 1 minute. Those machines would not reboot. It seems if you change the time to less than 5 minutes it does not issue a reboot. As for the below error messages you will see them in the logs if you just do a test and not a migration. Every test I've done using ADMT displays the 2nd error message in the logs. Mike From: Sudhir Kaushal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:17 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, It is true that account is created but the machines just dont reboot. In my case i tried even changing the time from 1 min to 5 min. But the machines just dont reboot. Even afterrebooting the machines manually, the domain name remained the same. After checking the logs on c:\temp on the clients machine i found this error "failed to change the domain affiliation (hr=8007054b), the specified domain does not exist or could not be contacted" . Because of thisi concluded that account creation on the Target domain is may be because of ADMT agent, which gets properly installed on the client machine and do the necessary changes, but client is not able to contact the Target domain and hence dont reboot on their own. The other most common error i have seen in the logs is that "hr=800706fb The security database on the server does not have a computer account for this workstation trust relationship". Again I guess this is related with the Administrative permissionin the domain. Santosh what error you are getting in the logs? Regards, Sudhir Kaushal Systems Administrator ( Hosted Team ) eGain Communications Pvt. Ltd. Hello - (+91 20) 4222812, (+91 20) 4228607, Ext-126 -Original Message-From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:31 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Yes. you are right mike. I don't think it is due to name resolution problem. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Celone, MikeSent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:38 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT So your saying that the machines won't reboot because they can't resolve the target domain? This can't be true because all the machines I tried it on join to the target domain (I see the account created) but just don't reboot. After I reboot them manually they log into the new domain without any issues. Why would the machine have to resolve the target domain to reboot anyways? Mike Celone Systems Specialist Radio Frequency Systems v 203-630-3311 x1031 f 203-634-2027 m 203-537-2406 From: Sudhir Kaushal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:29 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, I had this problem while migrating the computer accounts and the things i concluded are as follows: This error is because the ADMT agent on the source domain clients is not able to resolve the target domain. I tried first creating static WINS record of the target domain in the source domain WINS server. Though MIcrosoft dont recommend it. It didn't worked out for me, may be for the simple fact that WINS resolution is not supported when ur target Win2K domain is using DNS for the name resolution. I was migrating from NT 4.0 to Win2K. If you r using DNS in the source domain and if it doesn't have resource record of Target domain, then create it. so that ADMT agent should be able to resolve the Target domain name from the source domain DNS. Like "Targetdomain.com" . If u r using only WINS in the source domain, then make sure that u have the WINS record of the target domain in the source domain WINS server. If u r using DHCP then u can make all ur source domain clients to use DNS of Target domain by making the configuration for DNS in DHCP . So that ADMT agent could able to resolve the target domain name from Target domain DNS server only. For me the first one worked out. I hope it works for u too. Regards, Sudhir Kaushal Systems Administrator ( Hosted Team ) eGain Communications Pvt. Ltd. Hello - (+91 20) 4222812, (+91 20) 4228607, Ext-126 -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Computer Migr
RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Thanks Sudhir. I am not getting any error message. But it wont restart the computer automatically. I have to manually restart the computer! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sudhir Kaushal Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:17 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, It is true that account is created but the machines just dont reboot. In my case i tried even changing the time from 1 min to 5 min. But the machines just dont reboot. Even afterrebooting the machines manually, the domain name remained the same. After checking the logs on c:\temp on the clients machine i found this error failed to change the domain affiliation (hr=8007054b), the specified domain does not exist or could not be contacted . Because of thisi concluded that account creation on the Target domain is may be because of ADMT agent, which gets properly installed on the client machine and do the necessary changes, but client is not able to contact the Target domain and hence dont reboot on their own. The other most common error i have seen in the logs is that hr=800706fb The security database on the server does not have a computer account for this workstation trust relationship. Again I guess this is related with the Administrative permissionin the domain. Santosh what error you are getting in the logs? Regards, Sudhir Kaushal Systems Administrator ( Hosted Team ) eGain Communications Pvt. Ltd. Hello - (+91 20) 4222812, (+91 20) 4228607, Ext-126 -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Yes. you are right mike. I dont think it is due to name resolution problem. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Celone, Mike Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:38 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT So your saying that the machines won't reboot because they can't resolve the target domain? This can't be true because all the machines I tried it on join to the target domain (I see the account created) but just don't reboot. After I reboot them manually they log into the new domain without any issues. Why would the machine have to resolve the target domain to reboot anyways? Mike Celone Systems Specialist Radio Frequency Systems v 203-630-3311 x1031 f 203-634-2027 m 203-537-2406 From: Sudhir Kaushal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:29 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, I had this problem while migrating the computer accounts and the things i concluded are as follows: This error is because the ADMT agent on the source domain clients is not able to resolve the target domain. I tried first creating static WINS record of the target domain in the source domain WINS server. Though MIcrosoft dont recommend it. It didn't worked out for me, may be for the simple fact that WINS resolution is not supported when ur target Win2K domain is using DNS for the name resolution. I was migrating from NT 4.0 to Win2K. If you r using DNS in the source domain and if it doesn't have resource record of Target domain, then create it. so that ADMT agent should be able to resolve the Target domain name from the source domain DNS. Like Targetdomain.com . If u r using only WINS in the source domain, then make sure that u have the WINS record of the target domain in the source domain WINS server. If u r using DHCP then u can make all ur source domain clients to use DNS of Target domain by making the configuration for DNS in DHCP . So that ADMT agent could able to resolve the target domain name from Target domain DNS server only. For me the first one worked out. I hope it works for u too. Regards, Sudhir Kaushal Systems Administrator ( Hosted Team ) eGain Communications Pvt. Ltd. Hello - (+91 20) 4222812, (+91 20) 4228607, Ext-126 -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT I remember someone posted a message here 3 or 4 weeks ago with an ADMT and computer migration question. I have the same problem in the lab. After the computer migration, it won't restart automatically. I have to manually restart the computer. Does anyone remember that question? If you still have a copy of that email thread could you forward it to me? Thanks, Santhosh List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir
RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Thanks Mike. I am going to test your solution in the lab today! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Celone, Mike Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 7:42 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Santosh, I moved a total of 3 machines yesterday in our lab and was able to get them to reboot successfully. Instead of changing the time to 1 minute I left it at 5. Those machines rebooted without issue. I then tried again changing the time to 1 minute. Those machines would not reboot. It seems if you change the time to less than 5 minutes it does not issue a reboot. As for the below error messages you will see them in the logs if you just do a test and not a migration. Every test I've done using ADMT displays the 2nd error message in the logs. Mike From: Sudhir Kaushal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:17 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, It is true that account is created but the machines just dont reboot. In my case i tried even changing the time from 1 min to 5 min. But the machines just dont reboot. Even afterrebooting the machines manually, the domain name remained the same. After checking the logs on c:\temp on the clients machine i found this error failed to change the domain affiliation (hr=8007054b), the specified domain does not exist or could not be contacted . Because of thisi concluded that account creation on the Target domain is may be because of ADMT agent, which gets properly installed on the client machine and do the necessary changes, but client is not able to contact the Target domain and hence dont reboot on their own. The other most common error i have seen in the logs is that hr=800706fb The security database on the server does not have a computer account for this workstation trust relationship. Again I guess this is related with the Administrative permissionin the domain. Santosh what error you are getting in the logs? Regards, Sudhir Kaushal Systems Administrator ( Hosted Team ) eGain Communications Pvt. Ltd. Hello - (+91 20) 4222812, (+91 20) 4228607, Ext-126 -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Yes. you are right mike. I don't think it is due to name resolution problem. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Celone, Mike Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:38 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT So your saying that the machines won't reboot because they can't resolve the target domain? This can't be true because all the machines I tried it on join to the target domain (I see the account created) but just don't reboot. After I reboot them manually they log into the new domain without any issues. Why would the machine have to resolve the target domain to reboot anyways? Mike Celone Systems Specialist Radio Frequency Systems v 203-630-3311 x1031 f 203-634-2027 m 203-537-2406 From: Sudhir Kaushal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:29 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, I had this problem while migrating the computer accounts and the things i concluded are as follows: This error is because the ADMT agent on the source domain clients is not able to resolve the target domain. I tried first creating static WINS record of the target domain in the source domain WINS server. Though MIcrosoft dont recommend it. It didn't worked out for me, may be for the simple fact that WINS resolution is not supported when ur target Win2K domain is using DNS for the name resolution. I was migrating from NT 4.0 to Win2K. If you r using DNS in the source domain and if it doesn't have resource record of Target domain, then create it. so that ADMT agent should be able to resolve the Target domain name from the source domain DNS. Like Targetdomain.com . If u r using only WINS in the source domain, then make sure that u have the WINS record of the target domain in the source domain WINS server. If u r using DHCP then u can make all ur source domain clients to use DNS of Target domain by making the configuration for DNS in DHCP . So that ADMT agent could able to resolve the target domain name from Target domain DNS server only. For me the first one worked out. I hope it works for u too. Regards, Sudhir Kaushal Systems Administrator ( Hosted Team ) eGain Communications Pvt. Ltd. Hello - (+91 20) 4222812, (+91 20) 4228607, Ext-126 -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT - FIXED :- )
Mike Sudhir, My computer migration problem has been fixed! I learned something today, Be patient. Here is the time calculation according to my testing. If you select the 5 minutes option during the computer migration, the actual restart time = 7min + selected 5 min is a total of 12 min. If you select 1 min, the restart time = 7 min + 1 min. 7 min is a fixed time for ADMT to issue a message to the workstation. After that 7 min you will see the shutdown message and it will give you the selected time during the computer migration(5, 1 etc). 7 min is according to my testing in the lab but I think the MS actual value is 5 min. Mike, I would recommend you test in the lab with a 1 min option and wait for 8 min. You will see the restart message on the workstation. Good luck and be patient :- ) Thanks, Santhosh From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Santhosh Sivarajan Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Thanks Mike. I am going to test your solution in the lab today! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Celone, Mike Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 7:42 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Santosh, I moved a total of 3 machines yesterday in our lab and was able to get them to reboot successfully. Instead of changing the time to 1 minute I left it at 5. Those machines rebooted without issue. I then tried again changing the time to 1 minute. Those machines would not reboot. It seems if you change the time to less than 5 minutes it does not issue a reboot. As for the below error messages you will see them in the logs if you just do a test and not a migration. Every test I've done using ADMT displays the 2nd error message in the logs. Mike From: Sudhir Kaushal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:17 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, It is true that account is created but the machines just dont reboot. In my case i tried even changing the time from 1 min to 5 min. But the machines just dont reboot. Even after rebooting the machines manually, the domain name remained the same. After checking the logs on c:\temp on the clients machine i found this error failed to change the domain affiliation (hr=8007054b), the specified domain does not exist or could not be contacted . Because of this i concluded that account creation on the Target domain is may be because of ADMT agent, which gets properly installed on the client machine and do the necessary changes, but client is not able to contact the Target domain and hence dont reboot on their own. The other most common error i have seen in the logs is that hr=800706fb The security database on the server does not have a computer account for this workstation trust relationship. Again I guess this is related with the Administrative permission in the domain. Santosh what error you are getting in the logs? Regards, Sudhir Kaushal Systems Administrator ( Hosted Team ) eGain Communications Pvt. Ltd. Hello - (+91 20) 4222812, (+91 20) 4228607, Ext-126 -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Yes. you are right mike. I don't think it is due to name resolution problem. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Celone, Mike Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:38 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT So your saying that the machines won't reboot because they can't resolve the target domain? This can't be true because all the machines I tried it on join to the target domain (I see the account created) but just don't reboot. After I reboot them manually they log into the new domain without any issues. Why would the machine have to resolve the target domain to reboot anyways? Mike Celone Systems Specialist Radio Frequency Systems v 203-630-3311 x1031 f 203-634-2027 m 203-537-2406 From: Sudhir Kaushal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:29 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, I had this problem while migrating the computer accounts and the things i concluded are as follows: This error is because the ADMT agent on the source domain clients is not able to resolve the target domain. I tried first creating static WINS record of the target domain in the source domain WINS server. Though MIcrosoft dont recommend it. It didn't worked out for me
RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT - FIXED :- )
Santosh/Mike, We successfully migrated about 6000 computers using ADMT ver.2 set to reboot 1 min. after completion. Santosh, I'm not sure where you are getting the 7 min. from. ADMT issues a message to the workstation to start ADMTagent.exe, immediately after you click the close button. You can verify this by looking in Task Manager on the machine you are trying to migrate, you should see ADMTagent listed in the active processes. It could actually take much longer or much shorter depending on the amount of data and profiles that are on the machine which you are trying to migrate. The more data the longer it will take. We migrated a 2TB file server and it took about an hour. HTH, -Tim -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT - FIXED :- ) Mike Sudhir, My computer migration problem has been fixed! I learned something today, Be patient. Here is the time calculation according to my testing. If you select the 5 minutes option during the computer migration, the actual restart time = 7min + selected 5 min is a total of 12 min. If you select 1 min, the restart time = 7 min + 1 min. 7 min is a fixed time for ADMT to issue a message to the workstation. After that 7 min you will see the shutdown message and it will give you the selected time during the computer migration(5, 1 etc). 7 min is according to my testing in the lab but I think the MS actual value is 5 min. Mike, I would recommend you test in the lab with a 1 min option and wait for 8 min. You will see the restart message on the workstation. Good luck and be patient :- ) Thanks, Santhosh From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Santhosh Sivarajan Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Thanks Mike. I am going to test your solution in the lab today! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Celone, Mike Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 7:42 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Santosh, I moved a total of 3 machines yesterday in our lab and was able to get them to reboot successfully. Instead of changing the time to 1 minute I left it at 5. Those machines rebooted without issue. I then tried again changing the time to 1 minute. Those machines would not reboot. It seems if you change the time to less than 5 minutes it does not issue a reboot. As for the below error messages you will see them in the logs if you just do a test and not a migration. Every test I've done using ADMT displays the 2nd error message in the logs. Mike From: Sudhir Kaushal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:17 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, It is true that account is created but the machines just dont reboot. In my case i tried even changing the time from 1 min to 5 min. But the machines just dont reboot. Even after rebooting the machines manually, the domain name remained the same. After checking the logs on c:\temp on the clients machine i found this error failed to change the domain affiliation (hr=8007054b), the specified domain does not exist or could not be contacted . Because of this i concluded that account creation on the Target domain is may be because of ADMT agent, which gets properly installed on the client machine and do the necessary changes, but client is not able to contact the Target domain and hence dont reboot on their own. The other most common error i have seen in the logs is that hr=800706fb The security database on the server does not have a computer account for this workstation trust relationship. Again I guess this is related with the Administrative permission in the domain. Santosh what error you are getting in the logs? Regards, Sudhir Kaushal Systems Administrator ( Hosted Team ) eGain Communications Pvt. Ltd. Hello - (+91 20) 4222812, (+91 20) 4228607, Ext-126 -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Yes. you are right mike. I don't think it is due to name resolution problem. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Celone, Mike Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:38 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT So your saying that the machines won't reboot because they can't resolve the target domain? This can't be true because all the machines I tried it on join
RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT So your saying that the machines won't reboot because they can't resolve the target domain? This can't be true because all the machines I tried it on join to the target domain (I see the account created) but just don't reboot. After I reboot them manually they log into the new domain without any issues. Why would the machine have to resolve the target domain to reboot anyways? Mike Celone Systems Specialist Radio Frequency Systems v 203-630-3311 x1031 f 203-634-2027 m 203-537-2406 From: Sudhir Kaushal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:29 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, I had this problem while migrating the computer accounts and the things i concluded are as follows: This error is because the ADMT agent on the source domain clients is not able to resolve the target domain. I tried first creating static WINS record of the target domain in the source domain WINS server. Though MIcrosoft dont recommend it. It didn't worked out for me, may be for the simple fact that WINS resolution is not supported when ur target Win2K domain is using DNS for the name resolution. I was migrating from NT 4.0 to Win2K. If you r using DNS in the source domain and if it doesn't have resource record of Target domain, then create it. so that ADMT agent should be able to resolve the Target domain name from the source domain DNS. Like "Targetdomain.com" . If u r using only WINS in the source domain, then make sure that u have the WINS record of the target domain in the source domain WINS server. If u r using DHCP then u can make all ur source domain clients to use DNS of Target domain by making the configuration for DNS in DHCP . So that ADMT agent could able to resolve the target domain name from Target domain DNS server only. For me the first one worked out. I hope it works for u too. Regards, Sudhir Kaushal Systems Administrator ( Hosted Team ) eGain Communications Pvt. Ltd. Hello - (+91 20) 4222812, (+91 20) 4228607, Ext-126 -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT I remember someone posted a message here 3 or 4 weeks ago with an ADMT and computer migration question. I have the same problem in the lab. After the computer migration, it won't restart automatically. I have to manually restart the computer. Does anyone remember that question? If you still have a copy of that email thread could you forward it to me? Thanks, Santhosh List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Thanks Sudhir. I have DHCP in the lab with DNS and WINS entry. I dont have name resolution problem. I can resolve Target and Source domain from the workstation. I think my problem is something else or something related to Time Sync. I used Shutdown.exe to restart workstation remotely without any problem. As mike mentioned, I am going to test Restart after 1 or 5 min option in the lab today. I believe this is something related to time sync configuration. I dont have a time server configured in the DHCP scope. Santhosh From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sudhir Kaushal Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:29 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, I had this problem while migrating the computer accounts and the things i concluded are as follows: This error is because the ADMT agent on the source domain clients is not able to resolve the target domain. I tried first creating static WINS record of the target domain in the source domain WINS server. Though MIcrosoft dont recommend it. It didn't worked out for me, may be for the simple fact that WINS resolution is not supported when ur target Win2K domain is using DNS for the name resolution. I was migrating from NT 4.0 to Win2K. If you r using DNS in the source domain and if it doesn't have resource record of Target domain, then create it. so that ADMT agent should be able to resolve the Target domain name from the source domain DNS. Like Targetdomain.com . If u r using only WINS in the source domain, then make sure that u have the WINS record of the target domain in the source domain WINS server. If u r using DHCP then u can make all ur source domain clients to use DNS of Target domain by making the configuration for DNS in DHCP . So that ADMT agent could able to resolve the target domain name from Target domain DNS server only. For me the first one worked out. I hope it works for u too. Regards, Sudhir Kaushal Systems Administrator ( Hosted Team ) eGain Communications Pvt. Ltd. Hello - (+91 20) 4222812, (+91 20) 4228607, Ext-126 -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT I remember someone posted a message here 3 or 4 weeks ago with an ADMT and computer migration question. I have the same problem in the lab. After the computer migration, it won't restart automatically. I have to manually restart the computer. Does anyone remember that question? If you still have a copy of that email thread could you forward it to me? Thanks, Santhosh List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, It is true that account is created but the machines just dont reboot. In my case i tried even changing the time from 1 min to 5 min. But the machines just dont reboot. Even afterrebooting the machines manually, the domain name remained the same. After checking the logs on c:\temp on the clients machine i found this error "failed to change the domain affiliation (hr=8007054b), the specified domain does not exist or could not be contacted" . Because of thisi concluded that account creation on the Target domain is may be because of ADMT agent, which gets properly installed on the client machine and do the necessary changes, but client is not able to contact the Target domain and hence dont reboot on their own. The other most common error i have seen in the logs is that "hr=800706fb The security database on the server does not have a computer account for this workstation trust relationship". Again I guess this is related with the Administrative permissionin the domain. Santosh what error you are getting in the logs? Regards, Sudhir Kaushal Systems Administrator ( Hosted Team ) eGain Communications Pvt. Ltd. Hello - (+91 20) 4222812, (+91 20) 4228607, Ext-126 -Original Message-From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:31 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Yes. you are right mike. I dont think it is due to name resolution problem. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Celone, MikeSent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:38 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT So your saying that the machines won't reboot because they can't resolve the target domain? This can't be true because all the machines I tried it on join to the target domain (I see the account created) but just don't reboot. After I reboot them manually they log into the new domain without any issues. Why would the machine have to resolve the target domain to reboot anyways? Mike Celone Systems Specialist Radio Frequency Systems v 203-630-3311 x1031 f 203-634-2027 m 203-537-2406 From: Sudhir Kaushal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:29 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, I had this problem while migrating the computer accounts and the things i concluded are as follows: This error is because the ADMT agent on the source domain clients is not able to resolve the target domain. I tried first creating static WINS record of the target domain in the source domain WINS server. Though MIcrosoft dont recommend it. It didn't worked out for me, may be for the simple fact that WINS resolution is not supported when ur target Win2K domain is using DNS for the name resolution. I was migrating from NT 4.0 to Win2K. If you r using DNS in the source domain and if it doesn't have resource record of Target domain, then create it. so that ADMT agent should be able to resolve the Target domain name from the source domain DNS. Like "Targetdomain.com" . If u r using only WINS in the source domain, then make sure that u have the WINS record of the target domain in the source domain WINS server. If u r using DHCP then u can make all ur source domain clients to use DNS of Target domain by making the configuration for DNS in DHCP . So that ADMT agent could able to resolve the target domain name from Target domain DNS server only. For me the first one worked out. I hope it works for u too. Regards, Sudhir Kaushal Systems Administrator ( Hosted Team ) eGain Communications Pvt. Ltd. Hello - (+91 20) 4222812, (+91 20) 4228607, Ext-126 -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT I remember someone posted a message here 3 or 4 weeks ago with an ADMT and computer migration question. I have the same problem in the lab. After the computer migration, it won't restart automatically. I have to manually restart the computer. Does anyone remember that question? If you still have a copy of that email thread could you forward it to me? Thanks, Santhosh List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT
I have the same problem. I have been trying this in a lab over the past day and it never reboots the machines automatically. The only change I made was to change the time after the wizard finishes to 1 minute instead of 5. Could that be doing it? Mike -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT I remember someone posted a message here 3 or 4 weeks ago with an ADMT and computer migration question. I have the same problem in the lab. After the computer migration, it won't restart automatically. I have to manually restart the computer. Does anyone remember that question? If you still have a copy of that email thread could you forward it to me? Thanks, Santhosh List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT Hi Santosh, I had this problem while migrating the computer accounts and the things i concluded are as follows: This error is because the ADMT agent on the source domain clients is not able to resolve the target domain. I tried first creating static WINS record of the target domain in the source domain WINS server. Though MIcrosoft dont recommend it. It didn't worked out for me, may be for the simple fact that WINS resolution is not supported when ur target Win2K domain is using DNS for the name resolution. I was migrating from NT 4.0 to Win2K. If you r using DNS in the source domain and if it doesn't have resource record of Target domain, then create it. so that ADMT agent should be able to resolve the Target domain name from the source domain DNS. Like Targetdomain.com . If u r using only WINS in the source domain, then make sure that u have the WINS record of the target domain in the source domain WINS server. If u r using DHCP then u can make all ur source domain clients to use DNS of Target domain by making the configuration for DNS in DHCP . So that ADMT agent could able to resolve the target domain name from Target domain DNS server only. For me the first one worked out. I hope it works for u too. Regards, Sudhir Kaushal Systems Administrator ( Hosted Team ) eGain Communications Pvt. Ltd. Hello - (+91 20) 4222812, (+91 20) 4228607, Ext-126 -Original Message- From: Santhosh Sivarajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Computer Migration Issues with ADMT I remember someone posted a message here 3 or 4 weeks ago with an ADMT and computer migration question. I have the same problem in the lab. After the computer migration, it won't restart automatically. I have to manually restart the computer. Does anyone remember that question? If you still have a copy of that email thread could you forward it to me? Thanks, Santhosh List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
