RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

2003-02-03 Thread Sullivan, Kevin
If you can't find the cert that encrypted them or the cert for the Data
Recovery Agent (DRA) (usually the domain admin) you are out of luck.

They key to open the data is stored in the headers of the file and it is
locked up with the private key for the user who encrypted it and the
private key for the DRA. The data is encrypted symmetrically. 

You may find those keys exist somewhere even though the domain doesn't
exist anymore. You should be able to recover with them.

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:33 AM
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

How can I decrypt some files that I did not know were encrypted when I
decommissioned the last DC in that old domain.  I have tried restoring
them
to a FAT Partition and I can open them but there is no data in them.
Any
help would be appreciated


Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Catholic Healthcare System
914.681.8117 office
646.483.3325 cell
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RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

2003-02-03 Thread Salandra, Justin A.
I should mention that these files were encrypted by accident by the user by
checking the box encrypt contents while looking at the properties of the
folder.  Where could I get the DRA from if the domain doesn't exist, restore
the domain on a workstations?  

 -Original Message-
From:   Sullivan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, February 03, 2003 11:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing
domain

If you can't find the cert that encrypted them or the cert for the Data
Recovery Agent (DRA) (usually the domain admin) you are out of luck.

They key to open the data is stored in the headers of the file and it is
locked up with the private key for the user who encrypted it and the
private key for the DRA. The data is encrypted symmetrically. 

You may find those keys exist somewhere even though the domain doesn't
exist anymore. You should be able to recover with them.

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:33 AM
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

How can I decrypt some files that I did not know were encrypted when I
decommissioned the last DC in that old domain.  I have tried restoring
them
to a FAT Partition and I can open them but there is no data in them.
Any
help would be appreciated


Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Catholic Healthcare System
914.681.8117 office
646.483.3325 cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

2003-02-03 Thread Sullivan, Kevin
I am not positive but if the domain admin had logged into a workstation
at some point the cert may be in that profile. I would have to go to the
RK to find the specific location. The recovery of encrypted docs is
thoroughly documented. I just did a TechNet search and found reams of
info I am sure there is something in there for you to look at.



-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:46 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

I should mention that these files were encrypted by accident by the user
by
checking the box encrypt contents while looking at the properties of the
folder.  Where could I get the DRA from if the domain doesn't exist,
restore
the domain on a workstations?  

 -Original Message-
From:   Sullivan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, February 03, 2003 11:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing
domain

If you can't find the cert that encrypted them or the cert for the Data
Recovery Agent (DRA) (usually the domain admin) you are out of luck.

They key to open the data is stored in the headers of the file and it is
locked up with the private key for the user who encrypted it and the
private key for the DRA. The data is encrypted symmetrically. 

You may find those keys exist somewhere even though the domain doesn't
exist anymore. You should be able to recover with them.

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:33 AM
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

How can I decrypt some files that I did not know were encrypted when I
decommissioned the last DC in that old domain.  I have tried restoring
them
to a FAT Partition and I can open them but there is no data in them.
Any
help would be appreciated


Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Catholic Healthcare System
914.681.8117 office
646.483.3325 cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

2003-02-03 Thread Roger Seielstad
How they were encrypted - accidental or not - has no bearing. They're gone.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:46 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer 
 existing domain
 
 
 I should mention that these files were encrypted by accident 
 by the user by
 checking the box encrypt contents while looking at the 
 properties of the
 folder.  Where could I get the DRA from if the domain doesn't 
 exist, restore
 the domain on a workstations?  
 
  -Original Message-
 From: Sullivan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:37 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing
 domain
 
 If you can't find the cert that encrypted them or the cert 
 for the Data
 Recovery Agent (DRA) (usually the domain admin) you are out of luck.
 
 They key to open the data is stored in the headers of the 
 file and it is
 locked up with the private key for the user who encrypted it and the
 private key for the DRA. The data is encrypted symmetrically. 
 
 You may find those keys exist somewhere even though the domain doesn't
 exist anymore. You should be able to recover with them.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:33 AM
 To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
 Subject: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain
 
 How can I decrypt some files that I did not know were encrypted when I
 decommissioned the last DC in that old domain.  I have tried restoring
 them
 to a FAT Partition and I can open them but there is no data in them.
 Any
 help would be appreciated
 
 
 Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
 Senior Network Engineer
 Catholic Healthcare System
 914.681.8117 office
 646.483.3325 cell
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

2003-02-03 Thread Bjelke John A Contr AFRL/VSIO
One possible solution would be to disconnect the network cable and try
logging on as the user who encrypted them, assuming that their are
credentials cached on the machine.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:14 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain


How they were encrypted - accidental or not - has no bearing. They're gone.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:46 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer 
 existing domain
 
 
 I should mention that these files were encrypted by accident
 by the user by
 checking the box encrypt contents while looking at the 
 properties of the
 folder.  Where could I get the DRA from if the domain doesn't 
 exist, restore
 the domain on a workstations?  
 
  -Original Message-
 From: Sullivan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:37 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing
 domain
 
 If you can't find the cert that encrypted them or the cert
 for the Data
 Recovery Agent (DRA) (usually the domain admin) you are out of luck.
 
 They key to open the data is stored in the headers of the
 file and it is
 locked up with the private key for the user who encrypted it and the
 private key for the DRA. The data is encrypted symmetrically. 
 
 You may find those keys exist somewhere even though the domain doesn't 
 exist anymore. You should be able to recover with them.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:33 AM
 To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
 Subject: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain
 
 How can I decrypt some files that I did not know were encrypted when I 
 decommissioned the last DC in that old domain.  I have tried restoring 
 them to a FAT Partition and I can open them but there is no data in 
 them. Any
 help would be appreciated
 
 
 Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
 Senior Network Engineer
 Catholic Healthcare System
 914.681.8117 office
 646.483.3325 cell
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

2003-02-03 Thread Salandra, Justin A.
I looked in the profile on the server at the Administrators profile under
documents and settings, there is a Crypto folder that contains a folder with
a SID/GUID as the name of the folder.  Inside there are three System Files.
I am assuming that this is not the location, however is there a place I can
look thru the RK online?


 -Original Message-
From:   Sullivan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, February 03, 2003 12:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing
domain

I am not positive but if the domain admin had logged into a workstation
at some point the cert may be in that profile. I would have to go to the
RK to find the specific location. The recovery of encrypted docs is
thoroughly documented. I just did a TechNet search and found reams of
info I am sure there is something in there for you to look at.



-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:46 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

I should mention that these files were encrypted by accident by the user
by
checking the box encrypt contents while looking at the properties of the
folder.  Where could I get the DRA from if the domain doesn't exist,
restore
the domain on a workstations?  

 -Original Message-
From:   Sullivan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, February 03, 2003 11:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing
domain

If you can't find the cert that encrypted them or the cert for the Data
Recovery Agent (DRA) (usually the domain admin) you are out of luck.

They key to open the data is stored in the headers of the file and it is
locked up with the private key for the user who encrypted it and the
private key for the DRA. The data is encrypted symmetrically. 

You may find those keys exist somewhere even though the domain doesn't
exist anymore. You should be able to recover with them.

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:33 AM
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

How can I decrypt some files that I did not know were encrypted when I
decommissioned the last DC in that old domain.  I have tried restoring
them
to a FAT Partition and I can open them but there is no data in them.
Any
help would be appreciated


Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Catholic Healthcare System
914.681.8117 office
646.483.3325 cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

2003-02-03 Thread Sullivan, Kevin
www.microsoft.com
www.google.com
www.rtfm.com
www.YouAreProbablyNotGoingToGetTheFilesBack.com
www.DontWasteYourTime.org

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:39 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

I looked in the profile on the server at the Administrators profile
under
documents and settings, there is a Crypto folder that contains a folder
with
a SID/GUID as the name of the folder.  Inside there are three System
Files.
I am assuming that this is not the location, however is there a place I
can
look thru the RK online?


 -Original Message-
From:   Sullivan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, February 03, 2003 12:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing
domain

I am not positive but if the domain admin had logged into a workstation
at some point the cert may be in that profile. I would have to go to the
RK to find the specific location. The recovery of encrypted docs is
thoroughly documented. I just did a TechNet search and found reams of
info I am sure there is something in there for you to look at.



-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:46 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

I should mention that these files were encrypted by accident by the user
by
checking the box encrypt contents while looking at the properties of the
folder.  Where could I get the DRA from if the domain doesn't exist,
restore
the domain on a workstations?  

 -Original Message-
From:   Sullivan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, February 03, 2003 11:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing
domain

If you can't find the cert that encrypted them or the cert for the Data
Recovery Agent (DRA) (usually the domain admin) you are out of luck.

They key to open the data is stored in the headers of the file and it is
locked up with the private key for the user who encrypted it and the
private key for the DRA. The data is encrypted symmetrically. 

You may find those keys exist somewhere even though the domain doesn't
exist anymore. You should be able to recover with them.

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:33 AM
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] Decrypt Files from a no longer existing domain

How can I decrypt some files that I did not know were encrypted when I
decommissioned the last DC in that old domain.  I have tried restoring
them
to a FAT Partition and I can open them but there is no data in them.
Any
help would be appreciated


Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Catholic Healthcare System
914.681.8117 office
646.483.3325 cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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