RE: [ActiveDir] Hidden objects

2005-08-21 Thread joe
What type of object?

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Subject: [ActiveDir] Hidden objects

Is there anyway to tell if someone hid an object(s) in AD from a DA?
dSHeurstics attrib  doesn't have a value set.
Does that mean no?

After using dscals, it seems Authenticated users have list contents
on every object in AD that I checked.
Based on these 2 things, is it pretty safe to assume nothing is probably
hidden?
thanks
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RE: [ActiveDir] Hidden objects

2005-08-21 Thread joe
Well on reflection, the answer to this regardless of objecttype would be to
run an enumeration routing as localsystem and as the admin ID you want to
find things that may be hidden from and then compare the results. 

If the object is a user or group you could try using the NET API to see if
lets you see it where the LDAP calls won't.

  joe 

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What type of object?

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Subject: [ActiveDir] Hidden objects

Is there anyway to tell if someone hid an object(s) in AD from a DA?
dSHeurstics attrib  doesn't have a value set.
Does that mean no?

After using dscals, it seems Authenticated users have list contents
on every object in AD that I checked.
Based on these 2 things, is it pretty safe to assume nothing is probably
hidden?
thanks
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RE: [ActiveDir] Hidden objects

2005-08-21 Thread Eric Fleischman
Actually better would probably be dumpDatabase.

~Eric


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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hidden objects

Well on reflection, the answer to this regardless of objecttype would be
to
run an enumeration routing as localsystem and as the admin ID you want
to
find things that may be hidden from and then compare the results. 

If the object is a user or group you could try using the NET API to see
if
lets you see it where the LDAP calls won't.

  joe 

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hidden objects

What type of object?

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Subject: [ActiveDir] Hidden objects

Is there anyway to tell if someone hid an object(s) in AD from a DA?
dSHeurstics attrib  doesn't have a value set.
Does that mean no?

After using dscals, it seems Authenticated users have list contents
on every object in AD that I checked.
Based on these 2 things, is it pretty safe to assume nothing is probably
hidden?
thanks
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RE: [ActiveDir] Hidden objects

2005-08-16 Thread Dean Wells
It dSHeuristics is not set, the directory will behave per its defaults.
Default behavior does NOT include a means to completely abstract an object
from _anybody's_ view (not just an admins.).  However, it can be achieved in
a roundabout fashion if the user in question does NOT have permission
sufficient to navigate through the hidden object's parent hierarchy ... if
this is the case, an object within a containment item of some kind to which
you do not have permission will effectively be hidden until such time as you
restore permission to the parent(s).

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Dean Wells
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Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 10:23 AM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Hidden objects

Is there anyway to tell if someone hid an object(s) in AD from a DA?
dSHeurstics attrib  doesn't have a value set.
Does that mean no?

After using dscals, it seems Authenticated users have list contents
on every object in AD that I checked.
Based on these 2 things, is it pretty safe to assume nothing is probably
hidden?
thanks
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