RE: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange Tools on Domain Controller

2004-05-28 Thread joe



Heck even when installing patches I would recoomend 
avoiding desktop logon. My usual process would be to wrap the qfe in a batch 
file that would fire it and then rcmd into the server to do the launch. Yes, you 
are running a console from the server but I found it is less likely to have 
accidents that way still as the whole point and click thing is out of the 
way. 
 
As a rule, I like to see DCs running lean and mean. That 
way when you have issues, and you will, they are much simpler to chase down. If 
you have to chase through 60 different pieces of software that could be 
possibly causing issues you aren't going to be happy because generally DC issues 
are very visible issues and you have exceeded the weight rating on your butt. I 
have also found that MS is far more helpful in troubleshooting when you have ALL 
MS products on the server and nothing else, they have no place to toss the 
potatoe. Not that I blame them, I understand completely. 
 
  joe
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck 
OppermannSent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 12:56 AMTo: 
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Tools on Domain Controller


I’d 
like to reinforce Joe’s point.  I go by the following rule of thumb – “A 
Windows machine is only as stable as the worst piece of software installed on 
it.”  The less of anything installed on any critical machine, the 
better.
 
Logging onto a DC should be 
an absolute no-no unless something truly cannot be done remotely, like 
installing a patch.
 

Charles Oppermann, [EMAIL PROTECTED],  http://weblogs.asp.net/chuckop/




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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joeSent: Friday, May 21, 2004 11:49 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange 
Tools on Domain Controller
 
That is it however, 
that brings up the question... Is Exchange Admin something you should be doing 
from a domain controller? As a general rule you shouldn't be logging onto DCs 
very often, that way leads to mistakes and problems. You manage the stuff from 
workstations. Let servers just sit and cook in the background. 
 
 joe
 
 
 
 



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EdwinSent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:27 PMTo: 
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Tools on Domain Controller
That’s it?  
Cool.
 
Okay……..I will give it 
a try.
 
Thank you again for the 
reply.
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin 
A.Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:56 PMTo: 
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Tools on Domain Controller
 
Yes, just install the 
ESM on the DC
 
-Original 
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
EdwinSent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:54 PMTo: Active 
Directory ListSubject: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange Tools on Domain 
Controller
 
I have an Exchange server and would 
like to know if it would be possible to have the properties menus available when 
logged into the domain controller?  The domain and the exchange server are 
two separate machines.
 
Is this possible? 
 
Thank you all for your replies in 
advance.
 


RE: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange Tools on Domain Controller

2004-05-21 Thread Chuck Oppermann








I’d
like to reinforce Joe’s point.  I go by the following rule of thumb –
“A Windows machine is only as stable as the worst piece of software
installed on it.”  The less of anything installed on any critical
machine, the better.

 

Logging
onto a DC should be an absolute no-no unless something truly cannot be done
remotely, like installing a patch.

 



Charles
Oppermann, [EMAIL PROTECTED],  http://weblogs.asp.net/chuckop/











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 11:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange Tools on Domain Controller



 

That
is it however, that brings up the question... Is Exchange Admin something
you should be doing from a domain controller? As a general rule you shouldn't
be logging onto DCs very often, that way leads to mistakes and problems. You
manage the stuff from workstations. Let servers just sit and cook in the
background. 

 

 joe

 

 

 

 







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange Tools on Domain Controller

That’s
it?  Cool.

 

Okay……..I
will give it a try.

 

Thank
you again for the reply.

 









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Justin A.
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:56 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange Tools on Domain Controller



 

Yes,
just install the ESM on the DC

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:54 PM
To: Active Directory List
Subject: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange Tools on Domain Controller

 

I have an Exchange server and would like to know if it would
be possible to have the properties menus available when logged into the domain
controller?  The domain and the exchange server are two separate machines.

 

Is this possible? 

 

Thank you all for your replies in advance.

 








RE: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange Tools on Domain Controller

2004-05-21 Thread Seely Jonathan J
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Also 
think about the steps to add EMC to a server requires IIS to be installed... 
again not advisable on a DC.

  
  -Original Message-From: joe 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 11:49 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] MS Exchange Tools on Domain Controller
  That is it however, that brings up the question... Is 
  Exchange Admin something you should be doing from a domain controller? As a 
  general rule you shouldn't be logging onto DCs very often, that way leads to 
  mistakes and problems. You manage the stuff from workstations. Let servers 
  just sit and cook in the background. 
   
   joe
   
   
   
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  EdwinSent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:27 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange 
  Tools on Domain Controller
  
  
  That’s it?  
  Cool.
   
  Okay……..I will give 
  it a try.
   
  Thank you again for 
  the reply.
   
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin 
  A.Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 
  1:56 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange 
  Tools on Domain Controller
   
  Yes, just install the 
  ESM on the DC
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of EdwinSent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:54 
  PMTo: Active Directory ListSubject: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange Tools on 
  Domain Controller
   
  I have an Exchange server and 
  would like to know if it would be possible to have the properties menus 
  available when logged into the domain controller?  The domain and the 
  exchange server are two separate machines.
   
  Is this possible? 
  
   
  Thank you all for your replies in 
  advance.
   


RE: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange Tools on Domain Controller

2004-05-21 Thread joe



That is it however, that brings up the question... Is 
Exchange Admin something you should be doing from a domain controller? As a 
general rule you shouldn't be logging onto DCs very often, that way leads to 
mistakes and problems. You manage the stuff from workstations. Let servers just 
sit and cook in the background. 
 
 joe
 
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
EdwinSent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:27 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange 
Tools on Domain Controller


That’s it?  
Cool.
 
Okay……..I will give it 
a try.
 
Thank you again for the 
reply.
 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin 
A.Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 
1:56 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange Tools 
on Domain Controller
 
Yes, just install the 
ESM on the DC
 
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of EdwinSent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:54 
PMTo: Active Directory ListSubject: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange Tools on 
Domain Controller
 
I have an Exchange server and would 
like to know if it would be possible to have the properties menus available when 
logged into the domain controller?  The domain and the exchange server are 
two separate machines.
 
Is this possible? 

 
Thank you all for your replies in 
advance.
 


RE: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange Tools on Domain Controller

2004-05-21 Thread Edwin








That’s it?  Cool.

 

Okay……..I will give it a try.

 

Thank you again for the reply.

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A.
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] MS
Exchange Tools on Domain Controller



 

Yes, just install the ESM on the DC

 

-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:54 PM
To: Active
 Directory List
Subject: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange
Tools on Domain Controller

 

I have an Exchange server and would
like to know if it would be possible to have the properties menus available
when logged into the domain controller?  The domain and the exchange
server are two separate machines.

 

Is this possible? 

 

Thank you all for your replies in
advance.

 








RE: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange Tools on Domain Controller

2004-05-21 Thread Salandra, Justin A.








Yes, just install the ESM on the DC

 

-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:54 PM
To: Active Directory List
Subject: [ActiveDir] MS Exchange
Tools on Domain Controller

 

I have an Exchange server and would
like to know if it would be possible to have the properties menus available
when logged into the domain controller?  The domain and the exchange
server are two separate machines.

 

Is this possible? 

 

Thank you all for your replies in
advance.