RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Salandra, Justin A.]

Title: Message









Clyde this is a 5.5 thing, and I have about 1040 mailboxes and a public
folder database of only 13 MB we don’t really use public folders.

 

-Original
Message-
From: Burns, Clyde
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002
4:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
Exchange -1018 Error

 

Justin,
how many mail boxes and public folders do you have? An option that hasnt been
mentioned that may be good for you is to use a resource kit utility called
exmerge.exe to pull all user content and public folder content into pst files.
You can then remove and recreate the information store with no worries
(well, theres one that q262892 outlines how to get around) again, check with MS
PSS, expecially if you have an open ticket. This is a good option if you have a
small number of users.

 

Or as
another option, create another information store in your "First Storage
Group\Mailbox Store" and move all your users to that datastore with AD
Users & Computers (worst case is that users loose connectivity to Exchange
and have to restart Outlook and/or reboot). You can then take the bad
information store offline and work on it. Theres some administrative tasks that
dont work with the default information store offline but that shouldnt affect
the users. Be sure and watch out for limited space though.

 

As far
as having ALL of THAT on one box... Id be lying if I said I didnt cringe when I
read that. But... You should be able to stop/start the exchange 2000
services without impacting the other services of that server. I dont know of a
sure fire way to fix the issue without some inconvenience to the endusers.
But its better to inconvenience them now then lose their email later. Ever
see one of those movies where the villagers light the torches and make a dash
for the datacenter, er I mean castle?

 

Clyde
Burns

 

BTW sorry about the 5.5
specific info earlier, didnt realize this was an exchange 2000 thing. Need to
get my head out of the past...

 

 

 -Original
Message-   
From: Salandra, Justin A.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002
2:52 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
Exchange -1018 Error

The reason I am waiting on this is because this
server is my forest root, my Exchange server, my DNS server to the Internet, my
WINS server and my Intranet Server all in one.  If I could find a way to fix the problem quickly while
fixing the server online I would avoid down time of all these services.

 

Next years budget allows me to break apart these
services

 

-Original
Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002
1:40 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
Exchange -1018 Error

 

No
offense Justin, but what are you waiting for? 1018s are bad news and the sooner
you get to work on this and follow PSS's recommendations the better. 

It will
bite you in the a$$ if you attempt to work around this.

 

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002
12:50 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
Exchange -1018 Error

When you went through it did you have your users
working with out problems.  My
users are currently experiencing no problems

 

-Original
Message-
From: Al Garrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002
11:16 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
Exchange -1018 Error

 

Having been through this myself I'm only
going to add my condolences. 

One of our administrators was using her
Deleted Items folder to store all the stuff she wanted to keep. It was a
classic from the CDW commercials"Fred? Where do you put all the e-mail
I delete?" Unfortunately, our DLT system had never been tested and our
first good backup was a week old. Poor planning on our part. I found myself
spending the night in the NOC doing eseutil commands on a 16Gb database and it
was taking 6 hours for any successful manipulation. (Copy over network to
working drive, perform ese..., recopy back to production drive, test for
completeness, etc, etc) I have a 3 inch binder of MS Knowledgebase Articles
about recovering Exch5.5. It's been well-thumbed and marked in the margins.

Good Luck. 
Al 
A small community college in California. 

 

-Original Message- 
From: Burns, Clyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:19 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error 

 

Id go with what MS is recommending. Ive
gone both ways (with regards to Exchange 5.5) in restoring a known good
database and replaying the transaction logs and having to recover a corrupted
database.  I would just make sure to copy off all the contents of your
exchsrvr\mdbdata contents somewhere else before trying the restore. Worst case

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Linton Smith (WBTQ)]

Hi Justin,
 
A restore will only stop Exchange services while the restore is happening.
Running ESEUtil only requires that Exchange services be stopped, so you can
leave the other services running, serving your users while you are fixing
your Exchange problem.
 
Sorry to hear about your last good backup.  The next time you experience any
indication of corruption, the first thing you will want to secure is your
last good backup.  This holds true for any transactional database
application.
 
Linton
-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:52 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


The reason I am waiting on this is because this server is my forest root, my
Exchange server, my DNS server to the Internet, my WINS server and my
Intranet Server all in one.  If I could find a way to fix the problem
quickly while fixing the server online I would avoid down time of all these
services.
 
Next years budget allows me to break apart these services
 
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:DavidA@;veronissuhler.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:40 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
 
No offense Justin, but what are you waiting for? 1018s are bad news and the
sooner you get to work on this and follow PSS's recommendations the better. 
It will bite you in the a$$ if you attempt to work around this.
 
-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:50 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
When you went through it did you have your users working with out problems.
My users are currently experiencing no problems
 
-Original Message-
From: Al Garrett [mailto:agarrett@;SWC.CC.CA.US]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:16 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
 
Having been through this myself I'm only going to add my condolences. 
One of our administrators was using her Deleted Items folder to store all
the stuff she wanted to keep. It was a classic from the CDW
commercials"Fred? Where do you put all the e-mail I delete?"
Unfortunately, our DLT system had never been tested and our first good
backup was a week old. Poor planning on our part. I found myself spending
the night in the NOC doing eseutil commands on a 16Gb database and it was
taking 6 hours for any successful manipulation. (Copy over network to
working drive, perform ese..., recopy back to production drive, test for
completeness, etc, etc) I have a 3 inch binder of MS Knowledgebase Articles
about recovering Exch5.5. It's been well-thumbed and marked in the margins.
Good Luck. 
Al 
A small community college in California. 
 
-Original Message- 
From: Burns, Clyde [ mailto:Clyde.Burns@;nortonhealthcare.org
<mailto:Clyde.Burns@;nortonhealthcare.org> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:19 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error 
 
Id go with what MS is recommending. Ive gone both ways (with regards to
Exchange 5.5) in restoring a known good database and replaying the
transaction logs and having to recover a corrupted database.  I would just
make sure to copy off all the contents of your exchsrvr\mdbdata contents
somewhere else before trying the restore. Worst case then is you can get
Exchange back to its current state with a copy of your priv, pub, and log
files.
Some things to check first though. Go into the advanced tab under the server
properties in the 5.5 admin program. (Org -> site -> configuration ->
server) See if you have circular logging turned on or off. Ifs its off your
ok with restoring the database from tape and replaying the logs. If its on
you may lose data by restoring an older priv and pub.edb (though it don't
sound like it if you have 500+ separate log files)
One other thing to check should you decide to go the 'repair what you have'
route. 
Shut down all your exchange services on the server. Find the path for the
following 3 files. Dir.edb pub.edb and priv.edb. Open a command prompt on
the server and go the directory where each of those files are at and use the
following command
eseutil /mh priv.mdb > output.txt 
Just replace priv.mdb with pub and dir. Open the output.txt file and look
about 17 lines down for the "State:" line. If all 3 say Consistent you don't
have to worry about the transaction logs. They have been committed to the
database. When Exchange 5.5 information store service is shut down it
commits the contents of the logs to the database. If the logs are not
committed to the database for whatever reason the header dump will show the
database to be in an Inconsistent state. Short answer is you could either
move all of the edb*.log files out

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Burns, Clyde]

Title: Message



Justin, how many 
mail boxes and public folders do you have? An option that hasnt been mentioned 
that may be good for you is to use a resource kit utility called exmerge.exe to 
pull all user content and public folder content into pst files. You can then 
remove and recreate the information store with no worries (well, theres one 
that q262892 outlines how to get around) again, check with MS PSS, expecially if 
you have an open ticket. This is a good option if you have a small number of 
users.
 
Or as another 
option, create another information store in your "First Storage Group\Mailbox 
Store" and move all your users to that datastore with AD Users & Computers 
(worst case is that users loose connectivity to Exchange and have to restart 
Outlook and/or reboot). You can then take the bad information store offline and 
work on it. Theres some administrative tasks that dont work with the default 
information store offline but that shouldnt affect the users. Be sure and watch 
out for limited space though.
 
As far as having ALL 
of THAT on one box... Id be lying if I said I didnt cringe when I read that. 
But... You should be able to stop/start the exchange 2000 services 
without impacting the other services of that server. I dont know of a sure fire 
way to fix the issue without some inconvenience to the endusers. But its 
better to inconvenience them now then lose their email later. Ever see one 
of those movies where the villagers light the torches and make a dash for the 
datacenter, er I mean castle?
 
Clyde 
Burns
 
BTW 
sorry about the 5.5 specific info earlier, didnt realize this was an exchange 
2000 thing. Need to get my head out of the past...
 
 
 -Original Message-  
 From: Salandra, Justin A. 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:52 
PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: 
[ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

  
  The 
  reason I am waiting on this is because this server is my forest root, my 
  Exchange server, my DNS server to the Internet, my WINS server and my Intranet 
  Server all in one.  If I could 
  find a way to fix the problem quickly while fixing the server online I would 
  avoid down time of all these services.
   
  Next 
  years budget allows me to break apart these 
  services
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: Andy David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:40 
  PMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange 
  -1018 Error
   
  No 
  offense Justin, but what are you waiting for? 1018s are bad news and the 
  sooner you get to work on this and follow PSS's recommendations the better. 
  
  It will 
  bite you in the a$$ if you attempt to work around this.
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: Salandra, 
  Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:50 
  PMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange 
  -1018 Error
  When 
  you went through it did you have your users working with out problems.  My users are currently experiencing no 
  problems
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: Al Garrett 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:16 
  AMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange 
  -1018 Error
   
  Having been through this 
  myself I'm only going to add my condolences. 
  One of our administrators 
  was using her Deleted Items folder to store all the stuff she wanted to keep. 
  It was a classic from the CDW commercials"Fred? Where do you put all the 
  e-mail I delete?" Unfortunately, our DLT system had never been tested and our 
  first good backup was a week old. Poor planning on our part. I found myself 
  spending the night in the NOC doing eseutil commands on a 16Gb database and it 
  was taking 6 hours for any successful manipulation. (Copy over network to 
  working drive, perform ese..., recopy back to production drive, test for 
  completeness, etc, etc) I have a 3 inch binder of MS Knowledgebase Articles 
  about recovering Exch5.5. It's been well-thumbed and marked in the 
  margins.
  Good 
  Luck. 
  Al A small community college in 
  California. 
  
   
  -Original 
  Message- 
  From: Burns, Clyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 
  2002 7:19 AM 
  To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange 
  -1018 Error 
  
   
  Id go with what MS is 
  recommending. Ive gone both ways (with regards to Exchange 5.5) in restoring a 
  known good database and replaying the transaction logs and having to recover a 
  corrupted database.  I would just make sure to copy off all the contents 
  of your exchsrvr\mdbdata contents somewhere else before trying the restore. 
  Worst case then is you can get Exchange back to its current state with a copy 
  of your priv, pub, and log files.
  Some things to check first 
  though. Go into

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Morgan, Joshua]

Title: Message



Do you 
have another machine you can install Exchange on that would hold your 
store?
 
If so 
I would recommend adding another machine to your site and moving stuff off of 
this machine as soon as possible.
If you 
do not have this ability then I would let management know how bad the situation 
really is and cover your A$$ in case something bad does 
happen..
 
This 
is just my 2 cents...
 
Joshua
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Salandra, Justin 
  A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 
  2:52 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
  
  The 
  reason I am waiting on this is because this server is my forest root, my 
  Exchange server, my DNS server to the Internet, my WINS server and my Intranet 
  Server all in one.  If I could 
  find a way to fix the problem quickly while fixing the server online I would 
  avoid down time of all these services.
   
  Next 
  years budget allows me to break apart these 
  services
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: Andy David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:40 
  PMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange 
  -1018 Error
   
  No 
  offense Justin, but what are you waiting for? 1018s are bad news and the 
  sooner you get to work on this and follow PSS's recommendations the better. 
  
  It will 
  bite you in the a$$ if you attempt to work around this.
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: Salandra, 
  Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:50 
  PMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange 
  -1018 Error
  When 
  you went through it did you have your users working with out problems.  My users are currently experiencing no 
  problems
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: Al Garrett 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:16 
  AMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange 
  -1018 Error
   
  Having been through this 
  myself I'm only going to add my condolences. 
  One of our administrators 
  was using her Deleted Items folder to store all the stuff she wanted to keep. 
  It was a classic from the CDW commercials"Fred? Where do you put all the 
  e-mail I delete?" Unfortunately, our DLT system had never been tested and our 
  first good backup was a week old. Poor planning on our part. I found myself 
  spending the night in the NOC doing eseutil commands on a 16Gb database and it 
  was taking 6 hours for any successful manipulation. (Copy over network to 
  working drive, perform ese..., recopy back to production drive, test for 
  completeness, etc, etc) I have a 3 inch binder of MS Knowledgebase Articles 
  about recovering Exch5.5. It's been well-thumbed and marked in the 
  margins.
  Good 
  Luck. 
  Al A small community college in 
  California. 
  
   
  -Original 
  Message- 
  From: Burns, Clyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 
  2002 7:19 AM 
  To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange 
  -1018 Error 
  
   
  Id go with what MS is 
  recommending. Ive gone both ways (with regards to Exchange 5.5) in restoring a 
  known good database and replaying the transaction logs and having to recover a 
  corrupted database.  I would just make sure to copy off all the contents 
  of your exchsrvr\mdbdata contents somewhere else before trying the restore. 
  Worst case then is you can get Exchange back to its current state with a copy 
  of your priv, pub, and log files.
  Some things to check first 
  though. Go into the advanced tab under the server properties in the 5.5 admin 
  program. (Org -> site -> configuration -> server) See if you have 
  circular logging turned on or off. Ifs its off your ok with restoring the 
  database from tape and replaying the logs. If its on you may lose data by 
  restoring an older priv and pub.edb (though it don't sound like it if you have 
  500+ separate log files)
  One other thing to check 
  should you decide to go the 'repair what you have' route. Shut down all your exchange 
  services on the server. Find the path for the following 3 files. Dir.edb 
  pub.edb and priv.edb. Open a command prompt on the server and go the directory 
  where each of those files are at and use the following 
  command
  eseutil /mh priv.mdb > 
  output.txt 
  Just replace priv.mdb with pub and dir. 
  Open the output.txt file and look about 17 lines down for the "State:" line. 
  If all 3 say Consistent you don't have to worry about the transaction logs. 
  They have been committed to the database. When Exchange 5.5 information store 
  service is shut down it commits the contents of the logs to the database. If 
  the logs are not committed to the database for whatever reason the header dump 
  will show the databas

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Salandra, Justin A.]

I have just learned that the company that does my backups may have
overwritten my most recent good backup with a bad one.  This will be
confirmed for me tomorrow morning by the actual person responsible since he
was out today.  Since I may not have a good backup, I think I may just have
to do the eseutil.  God help me!

Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Catholic Healthcare System
914.681.8117 office
646.483.3325 cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
From:   Linton Smith (WBTQ) [mailto:GWLLES@;Weston.ca] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:05 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:    RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

Hi Justin,

I've experienced exactly what you describe (certain cr@p array controllers
not doing their job), and restoring the LAST GOOD backup and replaying the
logs is exactly the way to go IF your logs are on a separate spindle set.
If not, there is a good chance that one or more of the log files are corrupt
as well, in which case you will only be able to recover to the point of the
last good backup (meaning you will lose everything since the last good
backup).  If your logs are on a separate spindle set, and you aren't using
circular logging, then this is a no-brainer.  Restore!  It's much faster and
easier then attempting to repair the database.

ESEUtil can cause loss of data, so I would only use this as a last resort.

BTW, even if the logs are on the same array, I'd try the restore anyway.  If
you do what MS and everyone else have suggested (which is to copy all DBs
and logs first), you can always get back to where you are today and then
attempt ESEUtil.

HTH,

Linton

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:49 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


Thanks for the info, I have asked MS by e-mail if I could do a eseutil /mh
priv.mdb > output.txt, if they say yes I will do it tonight.  Also I do not
have circular logging enabled.

 -Original Message-
From:   Burns, Clyde [mailto:Clyde.Burns@;nortonhealthcare.org] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:    RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

Id go with what MS is recommending. Ive gone both ways (with regards to
Exchange 5.5) in restoring a known good database and replaying the
transaction logs and having to recover a corrupted database.  I would just
make sure to copy off all the contents of your exchsrvr\mdbdata contents
somewhere else before trying the restore. Worst case then is you can get
Exchange back to its current state with a copy of your priv, pub, and log
files.

Some things to check first though. Go into the advanced tab under the server
properties in the 5.5 admin program. (Org -> site -> configuration ->
server) See if you have circular logging turned on or off. Ifs its off your
ok with restoring the database from tape and replaying the logs. If its on
you may lose data by restoring an older priv and pub.edb (though it don't
sound like it if you have 500+ separate log files)

One other thing to check should you decide to go the 'repair what you have'
route. 
Shut down all your exchange services on the server. Find the path for the
following 3 files. Dir.edb pub.edb and priv.edb. Open a command prompt on
the server and go the directory where each of those files are at and use the
following command
eseutil /mh priv.mdb > output.txt
Just replace priv.mdb with pub and dir. Open the output.txt file and look
about 17 lines down for the "State:" line. If all 3 say Consistent you don't
have to worry about the transaction logs. They have been committed to the
database. When Exchange 5.5 information store service is shut down it
commits the contents of the logs to the database. If the logs are not
committed to the database for whatever reason the header dump will show the
database to be in an Inconsistent state. Short answer is you could either
move all of the edb*.log files out of your mdbdata directory or do away with
them manually (definately talk to MS PSS before doing this yourself if your
not confortable.)

Clyde Burns

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:59 AM
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


Hello everyone,

I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give good advice.

I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my application log.

The chain of events went like this

I installed SP3 for W2K
The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of conversion and
logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times (Table/Column/Index Definintions)
On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my RAID 5 Config failed, I
replaced it 3 days later
Since then every time the online maintenance on 

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Salandra, Justin A.]

Title: Message









The reason I am waiting on this is because this server is my forest
root, my Exchange server, my DNS server to the Internet, my WINS server and my
Intranet Server all in one.  If I
could find a way to fix the problem quickly while fixing the server online I
would avoid down time of all these services.

 

Next years budget allows me to break apart these services

 

-Original
Message-
From: Andy David
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002
1:40 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
Exchange -1018 Error

 

No offense Justin, but
what are you waiting for? 1018s are bad news and the sooner you get to work on
this and follow PSS's recommendations the better. 

It will bite you in the
a$$ if you attempt to work around this.

 

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002
12:50 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
Exchange -1018 Error

When you went through it did you have your users
working with out problems.  My
users are currently experiencing no problems

 

-Original
Message-
From: Al Garrett
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002
11:16 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
Exchange -1018 Error

 

Having been through this myself I'm only
going to add my condolences. 

One of our administrators was using her
Deleted Items folder to store all the stuff she wanted to keep. It was a
classic from the CDW commercials"Fred? Where do you put all the e-mail
I delete?" Unfortunately, our DLT system had never been tested and our
first good backup was a week old. Poor planning on our part. I found myself
spending the night in the NOC doing eseutil commands on a 16Gb database and it
was taking 6 hours for any successful manipulation. (Copy over network to
working drive, perform ese..., recopy back to production drive, test for
completeness, etc, etc) I have a 3 inch binder of MS Knowledgebase Articles
about recovering Exch5.5. It's been well-thumbed and marked in the margins.

Good Luck. 
Al 
A small community college in California. 

 

-Original Message- 
From: Burns, Clyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:19 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error 

 

Id go with what MS is recommending. Ive
gone both ways (with regards to Exchange 5.5) in restoring a known good
database and replaying the transaction logs and having to recover a corrupted
database.  I would just make sure to copy off all the contents of your
exchsrvr\mdbdata contents somewhere else before trying the restore. Worst case
then is you can get Exchange back to its current state with a copy of your
priv, pub, and log files.

Some things to check first though. Go into
the advanced tab under the server properties in the 5.5 admin program. (Org
-> site -> configuration -> server) See if you have circular logging
turned on or off. Ifs its off your ok with restoring the database from tape and
replaying the logs. If its on you may lose data by restoring an older priv and
pub.edb (though it don't sound like it if you have 500+ separate log files)

One other thing to check should you decide
to go the 'repair what you have' route. 
Shut down all your exchange services on the server. Find the path
for the following 3 files. Dir.edb pub.edb and priv.edb. Open a command prompt
on the server and go the directory where each of those files are at and use the
following command

eseutil /mh priv.mdb > output.txt 
Just replace priv.mdb with pub and dir. Open the output.txt file
and look about 17 lines down for the "State:" line. If all 3 say
Consistent you don't have to worry about the transaction logs. They have been committed
to the database. When Exchange 5.5 information store service is shut down it
commits the contents of the logs to the database. If the logs are not committed
to the database for whatever reason the header dump will show the database to
be in an Inconsistent state. Short answer is you could either move all of the
edb*.log files out of your mdbdata directory or do away with them manually
(definately talk to MS PSS before doing this yourself if your not confortable.)

Clyde Burns 

-Original Message- 
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:59 AM 
To: ActiveDir (E-mail) 
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error 

 

Hello everyone, 

I know this is off topic but you guys and
girls always give good advice. 

I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and
200 a lot in my application log. 

The chain of events went like this 

I installed SP3 for W2K 
The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of
conversion and 
logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times (Table/Column/Index
Definintions) 
On that same da

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Linton Smith (WBTQ)]

Hi Justin,

I've experienced exactly what you describe (certain cr@p array controllers
not doing their job), and restoring the LAST GOOD backup and replaying the
logs is exactly the way to go IF your logs are on a separate spindle set.
If not, there is a good chance that one or more of the log files are corrupt
as well, in which case you will only be able to recover to the point of the
last good backup (meaning you will lose everything since the last good
backup).  If your logs are on a separate spindle set, and you aren't using
circular logging, then this is a no-brainer.  Restore!  It's much faster and
easier then attempting to repair the database.

ESEUtil can cause loss of data, so I would only use this as a last resort.

BTW, even if the logs are on the same array, I'd try the restore anyway.  If
you do what MS and everyone else have suggested (which is to copy all DBs
and logs first), you can always get back to where you are today and then
attempt ESEUtil.

HTH,

Linton

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:49 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


Thanks for the info, I have asked MS by e-mail if I could do a eseutil /mh
priv.mdb > output.txt, if they say yes I will do it tonight.  Also I do not
have circular logging enabled.

 -Original Message-
From:   Burns, Clyde [mailto:Clyde.Burns@;nortonhealthcare.org] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

Id go with what MS is recommending. Ive gone both ways (with regards to
Exchange 5.5) in restoring a known good database and replaying the
transaction logs and having to recover a corrupted database.  I would just
make sure to copy off all the contents of your exchsrvr\mdbdata contents
somewhere else before trying the restore. Worst case then is you can get
Exchange back to its current state with a copy of your priv, pub, and log
files.

Some things to check first though. Go into the advanced tab under the server
properties in the 5.5 admin program. (Org -> site -> configuration ->
server) See if you have circular logging turned on or off. Ifs its off your
ok with restoring the database from tape and replaying the logs. If its on
you may lose data by restoring an older priv and pub.edb (though it don't
sound like it if you have 500+ separate log files)

One other thing to check should you decide to go the 'repair what you have'
route. 
Shut down all your exchange services on the server. Find the path for the
following 3 files. Dir.edb pub.edb and priv.edb. Open a command prompt on
the server and go the directory where each of those files are at and use the
following command
eseutil /mh priv.mdb > output.txt
Just replace priv.mdb with pub and dir. Open the output.txt file and look
about 17 lines down for the "State:" line. If all 3 say Consistent you don't
have to worry about the transaction logs. They have been committed to the
database. When Exchange 5.5 information store service is shut down it
commits the contents of the logs to the database. If the logs are not
committed to the database for whatever reason the header dump will show the
database to be in an Inconsistent state. Short answer is you could either
move all of the edb*.log files out of your mdbdata directory or do away with
them manually (definately talk to MS PSS before doing this yourself if your
not confortable.)

Clyde Burns

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:59 AM
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


Hello everyone,

I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give good advice.

I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my application log.

The chain of events went like this

I installed SP3 for W2K
The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of conversion and
logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times (Table/Column/Index Definintions)
On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my RAID 5 Config failed, I
replaced it 3 days later
Since then every time the online maintenance on the exchange database ran it
logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 118 and 200)
And now ArcServe cannot backup the database fully and commit the logs to the
database so I now have 500 log files in my mdbdata directory.

MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed after I rename the
mdbdata directory and create a new one.  Then they want me to copy in all
the log files and wait for the log files to replay into the database.  The
only other option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and migrate
everyone over.

Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you feel that this
is the way to go?  Does anyone know what woul

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Andy David]

Title: Message



No 
offense Justin, but what are you waiting for? 1018s are bad news and the sooner 
you get to work on this and follow PSS's recommendations the better. 

It 
will bite you in the a$$ if you attempt to work around this.
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Salandra, Justin 
  A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 
  12:50 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
  
  When 
  you went through it did you have your users working with out problems.  My users are currently experiencing no 
  problems
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: Al Garrett 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:16 
  AMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange 
  -1018 Error
   
  Having been through this 
  myself I'm only going to add my condolences. 
  One of our administrators 
  was using her Deleted Items folder to store all the stuff she wanted to keep. 
  It was a classic from the CDW commercials"Fred? Where do you put all the 
  e-mail I delete?" Unfortunately, our DLT system had never been tested and our 
  first good backup was a week old. Poor planning on our part. I found myself 
  spending the night in the NOC doing eseutil commands on a 16Gb database and it 
  was taking 6 hours for any successful manipulation. (Copy over network to 
  working drive, perform ese..., recopy back to production drive, test for 
  completeness, etc, etc) I have a 3 inch binder of MS Knowledgebase Articles 
  about recovering Exch5.5. It's been well-thumbed and marked in the 
  margins.
  Good 
  Luck. 
  Al A small community college in 
  California. 
  
   
  -Original 
  Message- 
  From: Burns, Clyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 
  2002 7:19 AM 
  To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange 
  -1018 Error 
  
   
  Id go with what MS is 
  recommending. Ive gone both ways (with regards to Exchange 5.5) in restoring a 
  known good database and replaying the transaction logs and having to recover a 
  corrupted database.  I would just make sure to copy off all the contents 
  of your exchsrvr\mdbdata contents somewhere else before trying the restore. 
  Worst case then is you can get Exchange back to its current state with a copy 
  of your priv, pub, and log files.
  Some things to check first 
  though. Go into the advanced tab under the server properties in the 5.5 admin 
  program. (Org -> site -> configuration -> server) See if you have 
  circular logging turned on or off. Ifs its off your ok with restoring the 
  database from tape and replaying the logs. If its on you may lose data by 
  restoring an older priv and pub.edb (though it don't sound like it if you have 
  500+ separate log files)
  One other thing to check 
  should you decide to go the 'repair what you have' route. Shut down all your exchange 
  services on the server. Find the path for the following 3 files. Dir.edb 
  pub.edb and priv.edb. Open a command prompt on the server and go the directory 
  where each of those files are at and use the following 
  command
  eseutil /mh priv.mdb > 
  output.txt 
  Just replace priv.mdb with pub and dir. 
  Open the output.txt file and look about 17 lines down for the "State:" line. 
  If all 3 say Consistent you don't have to worry about the transaction logs. 
  They have been committed to the database. When Exchange 5.5 information store 
  service is shut down it commits the contents of the logs to the database. If 
  the logs are not committed to the database for whatever reason the header dump 
  will show the database to be in an Inconsistent state. Short answer is you 
  could either move all of the edb*.log files out of your mdbdata directory or 
  do away with them manually (definately talk to MS PSS before doing this 
  yourself if your not confortable.)
  Clyde 
  Burns 
  
  -Original 
  Message- 
  From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 
  2002 8:59 AM 
  To: ActiveDir 
  (E-mail) 
  Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 
  Error 
  
   
  Hello 
  everyone, 
  
  I know this is off topic 
  but you guys and girls always give good advice. 
  I have been getting event 
  Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my application log. 
  The chain of events went 
  like this 
  
  I installed SP3 for 
  W2K 
  The next day the Exchange Database went 
  through some type of conversion and logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times 
  (Table/Column/Index Definintions) On that same day one of my Hard Drives 
  in my RAID 5 Config failed, I replaced it 3 days 
  later 
  Since then every time the online 
  maintenance on the exchange database ran it logged a Database Page 
  Cache error (Event ID 116 and 118 and 200) And now ArcServe cannot 
  backup the database fully and commit the logs to the dat

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Salandra, Justin A.]

We are using ARCServe, and will be making the switch to Backup Exec 8.6 next
year

 -Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Shawn.Hayes@;compass.net] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

What backup product are you using?  Backup Exec gave us this problem.
We had to set up a separate backup job for Exchange specifying a Full
backup and commit logs.  When Exchange was part of a differential
backup, even though the Exchange portion of the backup job was specified
as a full backup and commit logs, the logs were not committed.

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:01 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


This is the wiered thing, all users are working fine and no one is
having any problems.  The only thing that is not working correctly is
that the full backups of the server are not committing the logs to the
database.

 -Original Message-
From:   Rick Kingslan [mailto:rkingsla@;cox.net] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:    RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

Justin,

I want to go on record as saying that no, SP3 did NOT cause these errors
- at least in my experience with our farm of Exchange 2k servers and
Exchange 5.5 servers.

The only time that we have seen this has been due to a severe corruption
of the database (specifically .edb) and a restore to another system and
reset of profiles on the user end was the quickest way to resolve.

However, I am with Roger - we may be smart folks who give good advice,
but I have believe you have a number of folks greatly impacted by this
outage.  Why would one spend money with PSS (or get the advice for free,
even) then wait to implement the fix.  This, given the fact that every
one of the error messages led to the same conclusion and fix?

I'd get your most recent GOOD backup and start restoring.  Your users
are going to appreciate it.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:25 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> David I have already looked at these but thank you
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: David N. Precht [mailto:discussions@;entrysecurity.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:19 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=116&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=118&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=200&source=
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 08:59
> To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give
> good advice.
> 
> I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my
> application log.
> 
> The chain of events went like this
> 
> I installed SP3 for W2K
> The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of
> conversion and logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times 
> (Table/Column/Index
> Definintions) On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my 
> RAID 5 Config failed, I replaced it 3 days later Since then 
> every time the online maintenance on the exchange database 
> ran it logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 
> 118 and 200) And now ArcServe cannot backup the database 
> fully and commit the logs to the database so I now have 500 
> log files in my mdbdata directory.
> 
> MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed
> after I rename the mdbdata directory and create a new one.  
> Then they want me to copy in all the log files and wait for 
> the log files to replay into the database.  The only other 
> option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and migrate 
> everyone over.
> 
> Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you
> feel that this is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would 
> of caused these errors, was it SP3 or was it the HD Failure?
> 
> Any help is appreciated
> 
> 
> Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
> Senior Network Engineer
> Catholic Healthcare System
> 914.681.8117 office
> 646.483.3325 cell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] &

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Roger Seielstad]

Which can't work. Especially with ArcServe.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Shawn.Hayes@;compass.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:01 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> Roger, I don't think you read the last message completely.  
> Exchange was
> set to do a Full backup and Flush the logs, but that job specification
> was part of a file system differential job.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:51 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> That is correct - logs don't get flushed unless you do a full backup,
> not a differential.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Shawn.Hayes@;compass.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:05 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> > 
> > 
> > What backup product are you using?  Backup Exec gave us 
> this problem. 
> > We had to set up a separate backup job for Exchange 
> specifying a Full 
> > backup and commit logs.  When Exchange was part of a differential 
> > backup, even though the Exchange portion of the backup job was 
> > specified as a full backup and commit logs, the logs were not 
> > committed.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:01 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> > 
> > 
> > This is the wiered thing, all users are working fine and no one is 
> > having any problems.  The only thing that is not working 
> correctly is 
> > that the full backups of the server are not committing the 
> logs to the
> 
> > database.
> > 
> >  -Original Message-
> > From:   Rick Kingslan [mailto:rkingsla@;cox.net] 
> > Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:37 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> > 
> > Justin,
> > 
> > I want to go on record as saying that no, SP3 did NOT cause
> > these errors
> > - at least in my experience with our farm of Exchange 2k servers and
> > Exchange 5.5 servers.
> > 
> > The only time that we have seen this has been due to a severe
> > corruption
> > of the database (specifically .edb) and a restore to another 
> > system and
> > reset of profiles on the user end was the quickest way to resolve.
> > 
> > However, I am with Roger - we may be smart folks who give 
> good advice,
> 
> > but I have believe you have a number of folks greatly 
> impacted by this
> 
> > outage.  Why would one spend money with PSS (or get the advice for 
> > free,
> > even) then wait to implement the fix.  This, given the fact 
> that every
> 
> > one of the error messages led to the same conclusion and fix?
> > 
> > I'd get your most recent GOOD backup and start restoring.  
> Your users 
> > are going to appreciate it.
> > 
> > Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> > Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> > Associate Expert
> > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> > > Salandra, Justin A.
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:25 AM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> > > 
> > > 
> > > David I have already looked at these but thank you
> > > 
> > >  -Original Message-
> > > From: David N. Precht [mailto:discussions@;entrysecurity.com] 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:19 AM
> > > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> > > 
> > > http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=116&source=
> > > http://www.even

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Shawn.Hayes]

Roger, I don't think you read the last message completely.  Exchange was
set to do a Full backup and Flush the logs, but that job specification
was part of a file system differential job.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:51 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


That is correct - logs don't get flushed unless you do a full backup,
not a differential.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Shawn.Hayes@;compass.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:05 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> What backup product are you using?  Backup Exec gave us this problem. 
> We had to set up a separate backup job for Exchange specifying a Full 
> backup and commit logs.  When Exchange was part of a differential 
> backup, even though the Exchange portion of the backup job was 
> specified as a full backup and commit logs, the logs were not 
> committed.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:01 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> This is the wiered thing, all users are working fine and no one is 
> having any problems.  The only thing that is not working correctly is 
> that the full backups of the server are not committing the logs to the

> database.
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:rkingsla@;cox.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:37 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> Justin,
> 
> I want to go on record as saying that no, SP3 did NOT cause
> these errors
> - at least in my experience with our farm of Exchange 2k servers and
> Exchange 5.5 servers.
> 
> The only time that we have seen this has been due to a severe
> corruption
> of the database (specifically .edb) and a restore to another 
> system and
> reset of profiles on the user end was the quickest way to resolve.
> 
> However, I am with Roger - we may be smart folks who give good advice,

> but I have believe you have a number of folks greatly impacted by this

> outage.  Why would one spend money with PSS (or get the advice for 
> free,
> even) then wait to implement the fix.  This, given the fact that every

> one of the error messages led to the same conclusion and fix?
> 
> I'd get your most recent GOOD backup and start restoring.  Your users 
> are going to appreciate it.
> 
> Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> > Salandra, Justin A.
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:25 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> > 
> > 
> > David I have already looked at these but thank you
> > 
> >  -Original Message-
> > From:   David N. Precht [mailto:discussions@;entrysecurity.com] 
> > Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:19 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> > 
> > http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=116&source=
> > http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=118&source=
> > http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=200&source=
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Salandra, 
> > Justin A.
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 08:59
> > To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> > 
> > 
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give good 
> > advice.
> > 
> > I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my 
> > application log.
> > 
> > The chain of events went like this
> > 
> > I installed SP3 for W2K
> > The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of 
> > conversion and logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times 
> > (Table/Column/Index
> > Definintions) On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my
> > RA

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Salandra, Justin A.]

Title: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error









When you
went through it did you have your users working with out problems.  My users are currently experiencing no
problems

 

-Original
Message-
From: Al Garrett
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002
11:16 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:
Exchange -1018 Error

 

Having been through this myself I'm only
going to add my condolences. 

One of our administrators was using her
Deleted Items folder to store all the stuff she wanted to keep. It was a
classic from the CDW commercials"Fred? Where do you put all the e-mail
I delete?" Unfortunately, our DLT system had never been tested and our
first good backup was a week old. Poor planning on our part. I found myself
spending the night in the NOC doing eseutil commands on a 16Gb database and it
was taking 6 hours for any successful manipulation. (Copy over network to
working drive, perform ese..., recopy back to production drive, test for
completeness, etc, etc) I have a 3 inch binder of MS Knowledgebase Articles
about recovering Exch5.5. It's been well-thumbed and marked in the margins.

Good Luck. 
Al 
A small community college in California. 

 

-Original Message- 
From: Burns, Clyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:19 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error 

 

Id go with what MS is recommending. Ive
gone both ways (with regards to Exchange 5.5) in restoring a known good
database and replaying the transaction logs and having to recover a corrupted
database.  I would just make sure to copy off all the contents of your
exchsrvr\mdbdata contents somewhere else before trying the restore. Worst case
then is you can get Exchange back to its current state with a copy of your
priv, pub, and log files.

Some things to check first though. Go into
the advanced tab under the server properties in the 5.5 admin program. (Org
-> site -> configuration -> server) See if you have circular logging
turned on or off. Ifs its off your ok with restoring the database from tape and
replaying the logs. If its on you may lose data by restoring an older priv and
pub.edb (though it don't sound like it if you have 500+ separate log files)

One other thing to check should you decide
to go the 'repair what you have' route. 
Shut down all your exchange services on the server. Find the path
for the following 3 files. Dir.edb pub.edb and priv.edb. Open a command prompt
on the server and go the directory where each of those files are at and use the
following command

eseutil /mh priv.mdb > output.txt 
Just replace priv.mdb with pub and dir. Open the output.txt file
and look about 17 lines down for the "State:" line. If all 3 say
Consistent you don't have to worry about the transaction logs. They have been
committed to the database. When Exchange 5.5 information store service is shut
down it commits the contents of the logs to the database. If the logs are not
committed to the database for whatever reason the header dump will show the
database to be in an Inconsistent state. Short answer is you could either move
all of the edb*.log files out of your mdbdata directory or do away with them
manually (definately talk to MS PSS before doing this yourself if your not
confortable.)

Clyde Burns 

-Original Message- 
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:59 AM 
To: ActiveDir (E-mail) 
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error 

 

Hello everyone, 

I know this is off topic but you guys and
girls always give good advice. 

I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and
200 a lot in my application log. 

The chain of events went like this 

I installed SP3 for W2K 
The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of
conversion and 
logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times (Table/Column/Index
Definintions) 
On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my RAID 5 Config failed,
I 
replaced it 3 days later 
Since then every time the online maintenance on the exchange
database ran it 
logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 118 and 200) 
And now ArcServe cannot backup the database fully and commit the
logs to the 
database so I now have 500 log files in my mdbdata directory. 

MS Support wants me to restore from the
day the HD failed after I rename the 
mdbdata directory and create a new one.  Then they want me to
copy in all 
the log files and wait for the log files to replay into the
database.  The 
only other option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and
migrate 
everyone over. 

Have any of you done what MS is
recommending?  Do any of you feel that this 
is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would of caused
these errors, was 
it SP3 or was it the HD Failure? 

Any help is appreciated 

 

Justin A. Salandra, MCSE 
Senior Network Engineer 
Catholic Healthcare S

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Andy David]

You may want to upgrade to 8.6 + latest build. Whether that is an issue with
8.5, I do not know, but there are a heck of a lot of fixes in 8.6


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Shawn.Hayes@;compass.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


8.5 and Exchange 2000

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:DavidA@;veronissuhler.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:47 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


What version are using? I run differential file backups every weekday
along with full Exchange backups in the same job w/o issue.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Shawn.Hayes@;compass.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


What backup product are you using?  Backup Exec gave us this problem. We
had to set up a separate backup job for Exchange specifying a Full
backup and commit logs.  When Exchange was part of a differential
backup, even though the Exchange portion of the backup job was specified
as a full backup and commit logs, the logs were not committed.

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:01 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


This is the wiered thing, all users are working fine and no one is
having any problems.  The only thing that is not working correctly is
that the full backups of the server are not committing the logs to the
database.

 -Original Message-
From:   Rick Kingslan [mailto:rkingsla@;cox.net] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

Justin,

I want to go on record as saying that no, SP3 did NOT cause these errors
- at least in my experience with our farm of Exchange 2k servers and
Exchange 5.5 servers.

The only time that we have seen this has been due to a severe corruption
of the database (specifically .edb) and a restore to another system and
reset of profiles on the user end was the quickest way to resolve.

However, I am with Roger - we may be smart folks who give good advice,
but I have believe you have a number of folks greatly impacted by this
outage.  Why would one spend money with PSS (or get the advice for free,
even) then wait to implement the fix.  This, given the fact that every
one of the error messages led to the same conclusion and fix?

I'd get your most recent GOOD backup and start restoring.  Your users
are going to appreciate it.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:25 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> David I have already looked at these but thank you
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: David N. Precht [mailto:discussions@;entrysecurity.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:19 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=116&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=118&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=200&source=
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Salandra, 
> Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 08:59
> To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give good 
> advice.
> 
> I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my application

> log.
> 
> The chain of events went like this
> 
> I installed SP3 for W2K
> The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of 
> conversion and logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times 
> (Table/Column/Index
> Definintions) On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my
> RAID 5 Config failed, I replaced it 3 days later Since then 
> every time the online maintenance on the exchange database 
> ran it logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 
> 118 and 200) And now ArcServe cannot backup the database 
> fully and commit the logs to the database so I now have 500 
> log files in my mdbdata directory.
> 
> MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed after I 
> rename the mdbdata directory and create a new one.
> Then they want me to cop

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Salandra, Justin A.]

Thanks for the info, I have asked MS by e-mail if I could do a eseutil /mh
priv.mdb > output.txt, if they say yes I will do it tonight.  Also I do not
have circular logging enabled.

 -Original Message-
From:   Burns, Clyde [mailto:Clyde.Burns@;nortonhealthcare.org] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:    RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

Id go with what MS is recommending. Ive gone both ways (with regards to
Exchange 5.5) in restoring a known good database and replaying the
transaction logs and having to recover a corrupted database.  I would just
make sure to copy off all the contents of your exchsrvr\mdbdata contents
somewhere else before trying the restore. Worst case then is you can get
Exchange back to its current state with a copy of your priv, pub, and log
files.

Some things to check first though. Go into the advanced tab under the server
properties in the 5.5 admin program. (Org -> site -> configuration ->
server) See if you have circular logging turned on or off. Ifs its off your
ok with restoring the database from tape and replaying the logs. If its on
you may lose data by restoring an older priv and pub.edb (though it don't
sound like it if you have 500+ separate log files)

One other thing to check should you decide to go the 'repair what you have'
route. 
Shut down all your exchange services on the server. Find the path for the
following 3 files. Dir.edb pub.edb and priv.edb. Open a command prompt on
the server and go the directory where each of those files are at and use the
following command
eseutil /mh priv.mdb > output.txt
Just replace priv.mdb with pub and dir. Open the output.txt file and look
about 17 lines down for the "State:" line. If all 3 say Consistent you don't
have to worry about the transaction logs. They have been committed to the
database. When Exchange 5.5 information store service is shut down it
commits the contents of the logs to the database. If the logs are not
committed to the database for whatever reason the header dump will show the
database to be in an Inconsistent state. Short answer is you could either
move all of the edb*.log files out of your mdbdata directory or do away with
them manually (definately talk to MS PSS before doing this yourself if your
not confortable.)

Clyde Burns

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:59 AM
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


Hello everyone,

I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give good advice.

I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my application log.

The chain of events went like this

I installed SP3 for W2K
The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of conversion and
logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times (Table/Column/Index Definintions)
On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my RAID 5 Config failed, I
replaced it 3 days later
Since then every time the online maintenance on the exchange database ran it
logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 118 and 200)
And now ArcServe cannot backup the database fully and commit the logs to the
database so I now have 500 log files in my mdbdata directory.

MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed after I rename the
mdbdata directory and create a new one.  Then they want me to copy in all
the log files and wait for the log files to replay into the database.  The
only other option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and migrate
everyone over.

Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you feel that this
is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would of caused these errors, was
it SP3 or was it the HD Failure?

Any help is appreciated


Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Catholic Healthcare System
914.681.8117 office
646.483.3325 cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org> 

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Shawn.Hayes]

8.5 and Exchange 2000

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:DavidA@;veronissuhler.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:47 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


What version are using? I run differential file backups every weekday
along with full Exchange backups in the same job w/o issue.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Shawn.Hayes@;compass.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


What backup product are you using?  Backup Exec gave us this problem. We
had to set up a separate backup job for Exchange specifying a Full
backup and commit logs.  When Exchange was part of a differential
backup, even though the Exchange portion of the backup job was specified
as a full backup and commit logs, the logs were not committed.

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:01 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


This is the wiered thing, all users are working fine and no one is
having any problems.  The only thing that is not working correctly is
that the full backups of the server are not committing the logs to the
database.

 -Original Message-
From:   Rick Kingslan [mailto:rkingsla@;cox.net] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

Justin,

I want to go on record as saying that no, SP3 did NOT cause these errors
- at least in my experience with our farm of Exchange 2k servers and
Exchange 5.5 servers.

The only time that we have seen this has been due to a severe corruption
of the database (specifically .edb) and a restore to another system and
reset of profiles on the user end was the quickest way to resolve.

However, I am with Roger - we may be smart folks who give good advice,
but I have believe you have a number of folks greatly impacted by this
outage.  Why would one spend money with PSS (or get the advice for free,
even) then wait to implement the fix.  This, given the fact that every
one of the error messages led to the same conclusion and fix?

I'd get your most recent GOOD backup and start restoring.  Your users
are going to appreciate it.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:25 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> David I have already looked at these but thank you
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: David N. Precht [mailto:discussions@;entrysecurity.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:19 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=116&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=118&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=200&source=
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Salandra, 
> Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 08:59
> To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give good 
> advice.
> 
> I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my application

> log.
> 
> The chain of events went like this
> 
> I installed SP3 for W2K
> The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of 
> conversion and logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times 
> (Table/Column/Index
> Definintions) On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my
> RAID 5 Config failed, I replaced it 3 days later Since then 
> every time the online maintenance on the exchange database 
> ran it logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 
> 118 and 200) And now ArcServe cannot backup the database 
> fully and commit the logs to the database so I now have 500 
> log files in my mdbdata directory.
> 
> MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed after I 
> rename the mdbdata directory and create a new one.
> Then they want me to copy in all the log files and wait for 
> the log files to replay into the database.  The only other 
> option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and migrate 
> everyone over.
> 
> Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you feel that

> this is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would of caused t

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Roger Seielstad]

That is correct - logs don't get flushed unless you do a full backup, not a
differential.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Shawn.Hayes@;compass.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:05 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> What backup product are you using?  Backup Exec gave us this problem.
> We had to set up a separate backup job for Exchange specifying a Full
> backup and commit logs.  When Exchange was part of a differential
> backup, even though the Exchange portion of the backup job 
> was specified
> as a full backup and commit logs, the logs were not committed.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:01 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> This is the wiered thing, all users are working fine and no one is
> having any problems.  The only thing that is not working correctly is
> that the full backups of the server are not committing the logs to the
> database.
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:rkingsla@;cox.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:37 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> Justin,
> 
> I want to go on record as saying that no, SP3 did NOT cause 
> these errors
> - at least in my experience with our farm of Exchange 2k servers and
> Exchange 5.5 servers.
> 
> The only time that we have seen this has been due to a severe 
> corruption
> of the database (specifically .edb) and a restore to another 
> system and
> reset of profiles on the user end was the quickest way to resolve.
> 
> However, I am with Roger - we may be smart folks who give good advice,
> but I have believe you have a number of folks greatly impacted by this
> outage.  Why would one spend money with PSS (or get the 
> advice for free,
> even) then wait to implement the fix.  This, given the fact that every
> one of the error messages led to the same conclusion and fix?
> 
> I'd get your most recent GOOD backup and start restoring.  Your users
> are going to appreciate it.
> 
> Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Salandra, Justin A.
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:25 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> > 
> > 
> > David I have already looked at these but thank you
> > 
> >  -Original Message-
> > From:   David N. Precht [mailto:discussions@;entrysecurity.com] 
> > Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:19 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> > 
> > http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=116&source=
> > http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=118&source=
> > http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=200&source=
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> > Salandra, Justin A.
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 08:59
> > To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> > 
> > 
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give
> > good advice.
> > 
> > I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my
> > application log.
> > 
> > The chain of events went like this
> > 
> > I installed SP3 for W2K
> > The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of
> > conversion and logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times 
> > (Table/Column/Index
> > Definintions) On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my 
> > RAID 5 Config failed, I replaced it 3 days later Since then 
> > every time the online maintenance on the exchange database 
> > ran it logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 
> > 118 and 200) And now ArcServe cannot backup the database 
> > fully and commit the logs to the database so I now have 500 
> > log files in my mdbdata directory.
> > 
> > MS Sup

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Andy David]

What version are using? I run differential file backups every weekday along
with full Exchange backups in the same job w/o issue.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Shawn.Hayes@;compass.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


What backup product are you using?  Backup Exec gave us this problem.
We had to set up a separate backup job for Exchange specifying a Full
backup and commit logs.  When Exchange was part of a differential
backup, even though the Exchange portion of the backup job was specified
as a full backup and commit logs, the logs were not committed.

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:01 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


This is the wiered thing, all users are working fine and no one is
having any problems.  The only thing that is not working correctly is
that the full backups of the server are not committing the logs to the
database.

 -Original Message-
From:   Rick Kingslan [mailto:rkingsla@;cox.net] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:    RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

Justin,

I want to go on record as saying that no, SP3 did NOT cause these errors
- at least in my experience with our farm of Exchange 2k servers and
Exchange 5.5 servers.

The only time that we have seen this has been due to a severe corruption
of the database (specifically .edb) and a restore to another system and
reset of profiles on the user end was the quickest way to resolve.

However, I am with Roger - we may be smart folks who give good advice,
but I have believe you have a number of folks greatly impacted by this
outage.  Why would one spend money with PSS (or get the advice for free,
even) then wait to implement the fix.  This, given the fact that every
one of the error messages led to the same conclusion and fix?

I'd get your most recent GOOD backup and start restoring.  Your users
are going to appreciate it.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:25 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> David I have already looked at these but thank you
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: David N. Precht [mailto:discussions@;entrysecurity.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:19 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=116&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=118&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=200&source=
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 08:59
> To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give
> good advice.
> 
> I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my
> application log.
> 
> The chain of events went like this
> 
> I installed SP3 for W2K
> The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of
> conversion and logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times 
> (Table/Column/Index
> Definintions) On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my 
> RAID 5 Config failed, I replaced it 3 days later Since then 
> every time the online maintenance on the exchange database 
> ran it logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 
> 118 and 200) And now ArcServe cannot backup the database 
> fully and commit the logs to the database so I now have 500 
> log files in my mdbdata directory.
> 
> MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed
> after I rename the mdbdata directory and create a new one.  
> Then they want me to copy in all the log files and wait for 
> the log files to replay into the database.  The only other 
> option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and migrate 
> everyone over.
> 
> Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you
> feel that this is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would 
> of caused these errors, was it SP3 or was it the HD Failure?
> 
> Any help is appreciated
> 
> 
> Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
> Senior Network Engineer
> Catholic Healthcare System
> 914.681.8117 office
> 646.483.332

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Shawn.Hayes]

What backup product are you using?  Backup Exec gave us this problem.
We had to set up a separate backup job for Exchange specifying a Full
backup and commit logs.  When Exchange was part of a differential
backup, even though the Exchange portion of the backup job was specified
as a full backup and commit logs, the logs were not committed.

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:01 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


This is the wiered thing, all users are working fine and no one is
having any problems.  The only thing that is not working correctly is
that the full backups of the server are not committing the logs to the
database.

 -Original Message-
From:   Rick Kingslan [mailto:rkingsla@;cox.net] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:    RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

Justin,

I want to go on record as saying that no, SP3 did NOT cause these errors
- at least in my experience with our farm of Exchange 2k servers and
Exchange 5.5 servers.

The only time that we have seen this has been due to a severe corruption
of the database (specifically .edb) and a restore to another system and
reset of profiles on the user end was the quickest way to resolve.

However, I am with Roger - we may be smart folks who give good advice,
but I have believe you have a number of folks greatly impacted by this
outage.  Why would one spend money with PSS (or get the advice for free,
even) then wait to implement the fix.  This, given the fact that every
one of the error messages led to the same conclusion and fix?

I'd get your most recent GOOD backup and start restoring.  Your users
are going to appreciate it.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:25 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> David I have already looked at these but thank you
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: David N. Precht [mailto:discussions@;entrysecurity.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:19 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=116&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=118&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=200&source=
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 08:59
> To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give
> good advice.
> 
> I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my
> application log.
> 
> The chain of events went like this
> 
> I installed SP3 for W2K
> The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of
> conversion and logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times 
> (Table/Column/Index
> Definintions) On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my 
> RAID 5 Config failed, I replaced it 3 days later Since then 
> every time the online maintenance on the exchange database 
> ran it logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 
> 118 and 200) And now ArcServe cannot backup the database 
> fully and commit the logs to the database so I now have 500 
> log files in my mdbdata directory.
> 
> MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed
> after I rename the mdbdata directory and create a new one.  
> Then they want me to copy in all the log files and wait for 
> the log files to replay into the database.  The only other 
> option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and migrate 
> everyone over.
> 
> Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you
> feel that this is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would 
> of caused these errors, was it SP3 or was it the HD Failure?
> 
> Any help is appreciated
> 
> 
> Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
> Senior Network Engineer
> Catholic Healthcare System
> 914.681.8117 office
> 646.483.3325 cell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org>
> 
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Al Garrett]

Title: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error





Having been through this myself I'm only going to add my condolences.


One of our administrators was using her Deleted Items folder to store all the stuff she wanted to keep. It was a classic from the CDW commercials"Fred? Where do you put all the e-mail I delete?" Unfortunately, our DLT system had never been tested and our first good backup was a week old. Poor planning on our part. I found myself spending the night in the NOC doing eseutil commands on a 16Gb database and it was taking 6 hours for any successful manipulation. (Copy over network to working drive, perform ese..., recopy back to production drive, test for completeness, etc, etc) I have a 3 inch binder of MS Knowledgebase Articles about recovering Exch5.5. It's been well-thumbed and marked in the margins.

Good Luck.
Al
A small community college in California.



-Original Message-
From: Burns, Clyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error



Id go with what MS is recommending. Ive gone both ways (with regards to Exchange 5.5) in restoring a known good database and replaying the transaction logs and having to recover a corrupted database.  I would just make sure to copy off all the contents of your exchsrvr\mdbdata contents somewhere else before trying the restore. Worst case then is you can get Exchange back to its current state with a copy of your priv, pub, and log files.

Some things to check first though. Go into the advanced tab under the server properties in the 5.5 admin program. (Org -> site -> configuration -> server) See if you have circular logging turned on or off. Ifs its off your ok with restoring the database from tape and replaying the logs. If its on you may lose data by restoring an older priv and pub.edb (though it don't sound like it if you have 500+ separate log files)

One other thing to check should you decide to go the 'repair what you have' route. 
Shut down all your exchange services on the server. Find the path for the following 3 files. Dir.edb pub.edb and priv.edb. Open a command prompt on the server and go the directory where each of those files are at and use the following command

eseutil /mh priv.mdb > output.txt
Just replace priv.mdb with pub and dir. Open the output.txt file and look about 17 lines down for the "State:" line. If all 3 say Consistent you don't have to worry about the transaction logs. They have been committed to the database. When Exchange 5.5 information store service is shut down it commits the contents of the logs to the database. If the logs are not committed to the database for whatever reason the header dump will show the database to be in an Inconsistent state. Short answer is you could either move all of the edb*.log files out of your mdbdata directory or do away with them manually (definately talk to MS PSS before doing this yourself if your not confortable.)

Clyde Burns


-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:59 AM
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error



Hello everyone,


I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give good advice.


I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my application log.


The chain of events went like this


I installed SP3 for W2K
The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of conversion and
logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times (Table/Column/Index Definintions)
On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my RAID 5 Config failed, I
replaced it 3 days later
Since then every time the online maintenance on the exchange database ran it
logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 118 and 200)
And now ArcServe cannot backup the database fully and commit the logs to the
database so I now have 500 log files in my mdbdata directory.


MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed after I rename the
mdbdata directory and create a new one.  Then they want me to copy in all
the log files and wait for the log files to replay into the database.  The
only other option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and migrate
everyone over.


Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you feel that this
is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would of caused these errors, was
it SP3 or was it the HD Failure?


Any help is appreciated



Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Catholic Healthcare System
914.681.8117 office
646.483.3325 cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 


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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Salandra, Justin A.]

No I haven't

 -Original Message-
From:   Andy David [mailto:DavidA@;veronissuhler.com] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:21 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:    RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

Well of course, once the logs fill up and crash the drive, your users will
have problems then  :0
I would definitely stick with PSS on this. Just curious however, have you
attempted a full online backup with plain ol NTBACKUP? 



-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:01 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


This is the wiered thing, all users are working fine and no one is having
any problems.  The only thing that is not working correctly is that the full
backups of the server are not committing the logs to the database.

 -Original Message-
From:   Rick Kingslan [mailto:rkingsla@;cox.net] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:    RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

Justin,

I want to go on record as saying that no, SP3 did NOT cause these errors
- at least in my experience with our farm of Exchange 2k servers and
Exchange 5.5 servers.

The only time that we have seen this has been due to a severe corruption
of the database (specifically .edb) and a restore to another system and
reset of profiles on the user end was the quickest way to resolve.

However, I am with Roger - we may be smart folks who give good advice,
but I have believe you have a number of folks greatly impacted by this
outage.  Why would one spend money with PSS (or get the advice for free,
even) then wait to implement the fix.  This, given the fact that every
one of the error messages led to the same conclusion and fix?

I'd get your most recent GOOD backup and start restoring.  Your users
are going to appreciate it.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:25 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> David I have already looked at these but thank you
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: David N. Precht [mailto:discussions@;entrysecurity.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:19 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=116&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=118&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=200&source=
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 08:59
> To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give 
> good advice.
> 
> I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my 
> application log.
> 
> The chain of events went like this
> 
> I installed SP3 for W2K
> The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of 
> conversion and logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times 
> (Table/Column/Index
> Definintions) On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my 
> RAID 5 Config failed, I replaced it 3 days later Since then 
> every time the online maintenance on the exchange database 
> ran it logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 
> 118 and 200) And now ArcServe cannot backup the database 
> fully and commit the logs to the database so I now have 500 
> log files in my mdbdata directory.
> 
> MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed 
> after I rename the mdbdata directory and create a new one.  
> Then they want me to copy in all the log files and wait for 
> the log files to replay into the database.  The only other 
> option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and migrate 
> everyone over.
> 
> Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you 
> feel that this is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would 
> of caused these errors, was it SP3 or was it the HD Failure?
> 
> Any help is appreciated
> 
> 
> Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
> Senior Network Engineer
> Catholic Healthcare System
> 914.681.8117 office
> 646.483.3325 cell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org> 
> 
> List info   : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm
> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm
> List a

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Andy David]

Well of course, once the logs fill up and crash the drive, your users will
have problems then  :0
I would definitely stick with PSS on this. Just curious however, have you
attempted a full online backup with plain ol NTBACKUP? 



-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:01 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


This is the wiered thing, all users are working fine and no one is having
any problems.  The only thing that is not working correctly is that the full
backups of the server are not committing the logs to the database.

 -Original Message-
From:   Rick Kingslan [mailto:rkingsla@;cox.net] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:    RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

Justin,

I want to go on record as saying that no, SP3 did NOT cause these errors
- at least in my experience with our farm of Exchange 2k servers and
Exchange 5.5 servers.

The only time that we have seen this has been due to a severe corruption
of the database (specifically .edb) and a restore to another system and
reset of profiles on the user end was the quickest way to resolve.

However, I am with Roger - we may be smart folks who give good advice,
but I have believe you have a number of folks greatly impacted by this
outage.  Why would one spend money with PSS (or get the advice for free,
even) then wait to implement the fix.  This, given the fact that every
one of the error messages led to the same conclusion and fix?

I'd get your most recent GOOD backup and start restoring.  Your users
are going to appreciate it.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:25 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> David I have already looked at these but thank you
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: David N. Precht [mailto:discussions@;entrysecurity.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:19 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=116&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=118&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=200&source=
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 08:59
> To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give 
> good advice.
> 
> I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my 
> application log.
> 
> The chain of events went like this
> 
> I installed SP3 for W2K
> The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of 
> conversion and logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times 
> (Table/Column/Index
> Definintions) On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my 
> RAID 5 Config failed, I replaced it 3 days later Since then 
> every time the online maintenance on the exchange database 
> ran it logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 
> 118 and 200) And now ArcServe cannot backup the database 
> fully and commit the logs to the database so I now have 500 
> log files in my mdbdata directory.
> 
> MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed 
> after I rename the mdbdata directory and create a new one.  
> Then they want me to copy in all the log files and wait for 
> the log files to replay into the database.  The only other 
> option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and migrate 
> everyone over.
> 
> Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you 
> feel that this is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would 
> of caused these errors, was it SP3 or was it the HD Failure?
> 
> Any help is appreciated
> 
> 
> Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
> Senior Network Engineer
> Catholic Healthcare System
> 914.681.8117 office
> 646.483.3325 cell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org> 
> 
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Burns, Clyde]

Id go with what MS is recommending. Ive gone both ways (with regards to Exchange 5.5) 
in restoring a known good database and replaying the transaction logs and having to 
recover a corrupted database.  I would just make sure to copy off all the contents of 
your exchsrvr\mdbdata contents somewhere else before trying the restore. Worst case 
then is you can get Exchange back to its current state with a copy of your priv, pub, 
and log files.

Some things to check first though. Go into the advanced tab under the server 
properties in the 5.5 admin program. (Org -> site -> configuration -> server) See if 
you have circular logging turned on or off. Ifs its off your ok with restoring the 
database from tape and replaying the logs. If its on you may lose data by restoring an 
older priv and pub.edb (though it don't sound like it if you have 500+ separate log 
files)

One other thing to check should you decide to go the 'repair what you have' route. 
Shut down all your exchange services on the server. Find the path for the following 3 
files. Dir.edb pub.edb and priv.edb. Open a command prompt on the server and go the 
directory where each of those files are at and use the following command
eseutil /mh priv.mdb > output.txt
Just replace priv.mdb with pub and dir. Open the output.txt file and look about 17 
lines down for the "State:" line. If all 3 say Consistent you don't have to worry 
about the transaction logs. They have been committed to the database. When Exchange 
5.5 information store service is shut down it commits the contents of the logs to the 
database. If the logs are not committed to the database for whatever reason the header 
dump will show the database to be in an Inconsistent state. Short answer is you could 
either move all of the edb*.log files out of your mdbdata directory or do away with 
them manually (definately talk to MS PSS before doing this yourself if your not 
confortable.)

Clyde Burns

-Original Message-
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:59 AM
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


Hello everyone,

I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give good advice.

I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my application log.

The chain of events went like this

I installed SP3 for W2K
The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of conversion and
logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times (Table/Column/Index Definintions)
On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my RAID 5 Config failed, I
replaced it 3 days later
Since then every time the online maintenance on the exchange database ran it
logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 118 and 200)
And now ArcServe cannot backup the database fully and commit the logs to the
database so I now have 500 log files in my mdbdata directory.

MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed after I rename the
mdbdata directory and create a new one.  Then they want me to copy in all
the log files and wait for the log files to replay into the database.  The
only other option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and migrate
everyone over.

Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you feel that this
is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would of caused these errors, was
it SP3 or was it the HD Failure?

Any help is appreciated


Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Catholic Healthcare System
914.681.8117 office
646.483.3325 cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Salandra, Justin A.]

This is the wiered thing, all users are working fine and no one is having
any problems.  The only thing that is not working correctly is that the full
backups of the server are not committing the logs to the database.

 -Original Message-
From:   Rick Kingslan [mailto:rkingsla@;cox.net] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

Justin,

I want to go on record as saying that no, SP3 did NOT cause these errors
- at least in my experience with our farm of Exchange 2k servers and
Exchange 5.5 servers.

The only time that we have seen this has been due to a severe corruption
of the database (specifically .edb) and a restore to another system and
reset of profiles on the user end was the quickest way to resolve.

However, I am with Roger - we may be smart folks who give good advice,
but I have believe you have a number of folks greatly impacted by this
outage.  Why would one spend money with PSS (or get the advice for free,
even) then wait to implement the fix.  This, given the fact that every
one of the error messages led to the same conclusion and fix?

I'd get your most recent GOOD backup and start restoring.  Your users
are going to appreciate it.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:25 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> David I have already looked at these but thank you
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: David N. Precht [mailto:discussions@;entrysecurity.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:19 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=116&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=118&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=200&source=
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 08:59
> To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give 
> good advice.
> 
> I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my 
> application log.
> 
> The chain of events went like this
> 
> I installed SP3 for W2K
> The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of 
> conversion and logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times 
> (Table/Column/Index
> Definintions) On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my 
> RAID 5 Config failed, I replaced it 3 days later Since then 
> every time the online maintenance on the exchange database 
> ran it logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 
> 118 and 200) And now ArcServe cannot backup the database 
> fully and commit the logs to the database so I now have 500 
> log files in my mdbdata directory.
> 
> MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed 
> after I rename the mdbdata directory and create a new one.  
> Then they want me to copy in all the log files and wait for 
> the log files to replay into the database.  The only other 
> option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and migrate 
> everyone over.
> 
> Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you 
> feel that this is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would 
> of caused these errors, was it SP3 or was it the HD Failure?
> 
> Any help is appreciated
> 
> 
> Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
> Senior Network Engineer
> Catholic Healthcare System
> 914.681.8117 office
> 646.483.3325 cell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org> 
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Rick Kingslan]

Justin,

I want to go on record as saying that no, SP3 did NOT cause these errors
- at least in my experience with our farm of Exchange 2k servers and
Exchange 5.5 servers.

The only time that we have seen this has been due to a severe corruption
of the database (specifically .edb) and a restore to another system and
reset of profiles on the user end was the quickest way to resolve.

However, I am with Roger - we may be smart folks who give good advice,
but I have believe you have a number of folks greatly impacted by this
outage.  Why would one spend money with PSS (or get the advice for free,
even) then wait to implement the fix.  This, given the fact that every
one of the error messages led to the same conclusion and fix?

I'd get your most recent GOOD backup and start restoring.  Your users
are going to appreciate it.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:25 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> David I have already looked at these but thank you
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: David N. Precht [mailto:discussions@;entrysecurity.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:19 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=116&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=118&source=
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=200&source=
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 08:59
> To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give 
> good advice.
> 
> I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my 
> application log.
> 
> The chain of events went like this
> 
> I installed SP3 for W2K
> The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of 
> conversion and logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times 
> (Table/Column/Index
> Definintions) On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my 
> RAID 5 Config failed, I replaced it 3 days later Since then 
> every time the online maintenance on the exchange database 
> ran it logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 
> 118 and 200) And now ArcServe cannot backup the database 
> fully and commit the logs to the database so I now have 500 
> log files in my mdbdata directory.
> 
> MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed 
> after I rename the mdbdata directory and create a new one.  
> Then they want me to copy in all the log files and wait for 
> the log files to replay into the database.  The only other 
> option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and migrate 
> everyone over.
> 
> Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you 
> feel that this is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would 
> of caused these errors, was it SP3 or was it the HD Failure?
> 
> Any help is appreciated
> 
> 
> Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
> Senior Network Engineer
> Catholic Healthcare System
> 914.681.8117 office
> 646.483.3325 cell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org> 
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Salandra, Justin A.]

David I have already looked at these but thank you

 -Original Message-
From:   David N. Precht [mailto:discussions@;entrysecurity.com] 
Sent:   Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=116&source=
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=118&source=
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=200&source=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Salandra,
Justin A.
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 08:59
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


Hello everyone,

I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give good advice.

I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my application
log.

The chain of events went like this

I installed SP3 for W2K
The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of conversion
and logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times (Table/Column/Index
Definintions) On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my RAID 5 Config
failed, I replaced it 3 days later Since then every time the online
maintenance on the exchange database ran it logged a Database Page Cache
error (Event ID 116 and 118 and 200) And now ArcServe cannot backup the
database fully and commit the logs to the database so I now have 500 log
files in my mdbdata directory.

MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed after I rename
the mdbdata directory and create a new one.  Then they want me to copy
in all the log files and wait for the log files to replay into the
database.  The only other option is to do a eseutil or build a new
server and migrate everyone over.

Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you feel that
this is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would of caused these
errors, was it SP3 or was it the HD Failure?

Any help is appreciated


Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Catholic Healthcare System
914.681.8117 office
646.483.3325 cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org> 

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[David N. Precht]

http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=116&source=
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=118&source=
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=200&source=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Salandra,
Justin A.
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 08:59
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


Hello everyone,

I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give good advice.

I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my application
log.

The chain of events went like this

I installed SP3 for W2K
The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of conversion
and logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times (Table/Column/Index
Definintions) On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my RAID 5 Config
failed, I replaced it 3 days later Since then every time the online
maintenance on the exchange database ran it logged a Database Page Cache
error (Event ID 116 and 118 and 200) And now ArcServe cannot backup the
database fully and commit the logs to the database so I now have 500 log
files in my mdbdata directory.

MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed after I rename
the mdbdata directory and create a new one.  Then they want me to copy
in all the log files and wait for the log files to replay into the
database.  The only other option is to do a eseutil or build a new
server and migrate everyone over.

Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you feel that
this is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would of caused these
errors, was it SP3 or was it the HD Failure?

Any help is appreciated


Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Catholic Healthcare System
914.681.8117 office
646.483.3325 cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Luis Aguilera]

I had a somewhat similar situation. The difference being that my backups were not 
working correctly (another story). So restoring a good backup of the exchange db was 
not possible.

I ended resolving the issue by ESEUTIL /P to repair the db errors and later running 
ISINTEG -fix a couple of times to remove any leftover db corruption from the hard 
repair process (ie ESEUTIL).

That worked. But it was a very long night before I got the database mounted correctly 
again.

Needless to say, ensuring that backups are running correctly, and even performing a 
test restore, are EXTREMELY important.

good luck

Luis Aguilera 
IT Manager
BaseSix





-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:06 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error


So let's see. You call PSS, and then argue with what they're telling you to
do.. Hmmm..

-1018 errors are database corruption, and the only fix it to go back to tape
before the corruption. Sounds pretty logical to me.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:59 AM
> To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give 
> good advice.
> 
> I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my 
> application log.
> 
> The chain of events went like this
> 
> I installed SP3 for W2K
> The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of 
> conversion and
> logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times (Table/Column/Index 
> Definintions)
> On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my RAID 5 Config failed, I
> replaced it 3 days later
> Since then every time the online maintenance on the exchange 
> database ran it
> logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 118 and 200)
> And now ArcServe cannot backup the database fully and commit 
> the logs to the
> database so I now have 500 log files in my mdbdata directory.
> 
> MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed 
> after I rename the
> mdbdata directory and create a new one.  Then they want me to 
> copy in all
> the log files and wait for the log files to replay into the 
> database.  The
> only other option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and migrate
> everyone over.
> 
> Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you 
> feel that this
> is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would of caused 
> these errors, was
> it SP3 or was it the HD Failure?
> 
> Any help is appreciated
> 
> 
> Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
> Senior Network Engineer
> Catholic Healthcare System
> 914.681.8117 office
> 646.483.3325 cell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org> 
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error

[Roger Seielstad]

So let's see. You call PSS, and then argue with what they're telling you to
do.. Hmmm..

-1018 errors are database corruption, and the only fix it to go back to tape
before the corruption. Sounds pretty logical to me.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:59 AM
> To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange -1018 Error
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I know this is off topic but you guys and girls always give 
> good advice.
> 
> I have been getting event Ids 116, 118 and 200 a lot in my 
> application log.
> 
> The chain of events went like this
> 
> I installed SP3 for W2K
> The next day the Exchange Database went through some type of 
> conversion and
> logged Event ID 174 hundreds of times (Table/Column/Index 
> Definintions)
> On that same day one of my Hard Drives in my RAID 5 Config failed, I
> replaced it 3 days later
> Since then every time the online maintenance on the exchange 
> database ran it
> logged a Database Page Cache error (Event ID 116 and 118 and 200)
> And now ArcServe cannot backup the database fully and commit 
> the logs to the
> database so I now have 500 log files in my mdbdata directory.
> 
> MS Support wants me to restore from the day the HD failed 
> after I rename the
> mdbdata directory and create a new one.  Then they want me to 
> copy in all
> the log files and wait for the log files to replay into the 
> database.  The
> only other option is to do a eseutil or build a new server and migrate
> everyone over.
> 
> Have any of you done what MS is recommending?  Do any of you 
> feel that this
> is the way to go?  Does anyone know what would of caused 
> these errors, was
> it SP3 or was it the HD Failure?
> 
> Any help is appreciated
> 
> 
> Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
> Senior Network Engineer
> Catholic Healthcare System
> 914.681.8117 office
> 646.483.3325 cell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> 
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