RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool
Al, THANK!!! I think it was enough help that you gave me a workaround. I can't believe I didn't even think to try it out of cached mode. If you do run across the article, let me know, but I think that now I know the right path I should be able to find something. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:30 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool I want to say it's a known issue, but to tell the truth my brain is going another direction at the moment. I just remember that cached mode and access were a strange combination and just can't recall where I read the details at the moment. If I can find it, I'll post it, but you may want to have a look at the hotfixes/sp's out there for OL2K3 related to cached mode. As well as the known issues for this. Sorry not to be more helpful, but pretty sure it's your issue. Has to do with the network conversations going on when in cached mode or not (when cached, you're talking to the local store, vs. the server so that you get no perceptible impact if suddenly off the network etc. This wreaks havoc with opening others folders and I know I've had this conversation somewhere before, but I think I may have drank that portion of my memory away already ;) -ajm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:50 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Actually, no. I don't have the problem when not in cached mode (good call Al). Any ideas why that is? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:04 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Cached mode? Do you get the same result when not using cached mode? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:57 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Here is the scenario. UserB is sharing his calendar to UserX and UserY UserC is sharing his calendar to UserX and UserY UserX and UserY can not view UserB and UserC simultaneously, but can view one or the other plus anyone one else that has their calendar shared to them. The only way I have got them to view the calendars simultaneously is to remove their outlook profile and create a new profile. But...then they can only view them simultaneously the first time outlook (2003 cached mode) is opened. Once it is closed the problem starts again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:18 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Haven't heard of any. What's the problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool I am having some problems with about 3 of 4000 mailboxes in an exchange 2003 environment and can not for the life of me figure it out. Are there any mailbox diff tools out there that I may be able to use to find the differences between these mailboxes and the rest of them? List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool
I want to say it's a known issue, but to tell the truth my brain is going another direction at the moment. I just remember that cached mode and access were a strange combination and just can't recall where I read the details at the moment. If I can find it, I'll post it, but you may want to have a look at the hotfixes/sp's out there for OL2K3 related to cached mode. As well as the known issues for this. Sorry not to be more helpful, but pretty sure it's your issue. Has to do with the network conversations going on when in cached mode or not (when cached, you're talking to the local store, vs. the server so that you get no perceptible impact if suddenly off the network etc. This wreaks havoc with opening others folders and I know I've had this conversation somewhere before, but I think I may have drank that portion of my memory away already ;) -ajm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:50 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Actually, no. I don't have the problem when not in cached mode (good call Al). Any ideas why that is? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:04 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Cached mode? Do you get the same result when not using cached mode? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:57 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Here is the scenario. UserB is sharing his calendar to UserX and UserY UserC is sharing his calendar to UserX and UserY UserX and UserY can not view UserB and UserC simultaneously, but can view one or the other plus anyone one else that has their calendar shared to them. The only way I have got them to view the calendars simultaneously is to remove their outlook profile and create a new profile. But...then they can only view them simultaneously the first time outlook (2003 cached mode) is opened. Once it is closed the problem starts again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:18 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Haven't heard of any. What's the problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool I am having some problems with about 3 of 4000 mailboxes in an exchange 2003 environment and can not for the life of me figure it out. Are there any mailbox diff tools out there that I may be able to use to find the differences between these mailboxes and the rest of them? List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool
Actually, no. I don't have the problem when not in cached mode (good call Al). Any ideas why that is? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:04 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Cached mode? Do you get the same result when not using cached mode? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:57 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Here is the scenario. UserB is sharing his calendar to UserX and UserY UserC is sharing his calendar to UserX and UserY UserX and UserY can not view UserB and UserC simultaneously, but can view one or the other plus anyone one else that has their calendar shared to them. The only way I have got them to view the calendars simultaneously is to remove their outlook profile and create a new profile. But...then they can only view them simultaneously the first time outlook (2003 cached mode) is opened. Once it is closed the problem starts again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:18 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Haven't heard of any. What's the problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool I am having some problems with about 3 of 4000 mailboxes in an exchange 2003 environment and can not for the life of me figure it out. Are there any mailbox diff tools out there that I may be able to use to find the differences between these mailboxes and the rest of them? List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool
Cached mode? Do you get the same result when not using cached mode? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:57 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Here is the scenario. UserB is sharing his calendar to UserX and UserY UserC is sharing his calendar to UserX and UserY UserX and UserY can not view UserB and UserC simultaneously, but can view one or the other plus anyone one else that has their calendar shared to them. The only way I have got them to view the calendars simultaneously is to remove their outlook profile and create a new profile. But...then they can only view them simultaneously the first time outlook (2003 cached mode) is opened. Once it is closed the problem starts again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:18 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Haven't heard of any. What's the problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool I am having some problems with about 3 of 4000 mailboxes in an exchange 2003 environment and can not for the life of me figure it out. Are there any mailbox diff tools out there that I may be able to use to find the differences between these mailboxes and the rest of them? List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool
What you should look for are corrupted messages. These will typically be exemplified either by messages that cannot be moved/opened or deleted. You might see event log entries either from the Exchange store or even from your backup software, complaining about messages that can't be opened or be backed up. Browsing your store with mdbview without knowing what you're looking for is like browsing your registry in total ignorance, hoping you'll find something suspicious. Before you go in there I would suggest scanning your logs, if there's nothing in there, then turn up your logging level and have another look. At some stage, if there is something "iffy" about these mailboxes then the store will start complain/informing you about it. That's if the problem is in the store and not a malformed mail attribute on the user object. What did you say your problem was? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: 27 January 2005 06:51 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool I will start reading the mbdvu document, but any pointers on what i should be looking for and how to look for it are appreciated. Thanks _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Steve Shaff Sent: Wed 1/26/2005 4:36 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool You could try mdbview to see the mailboxes, to see if there is some sort of corruption. But, without having any further information, it is impossible for me to give you a definite answer. Thanks, S * Steve Shaff Active Directory / Exchange Administrator Corillian Corporation (W) 503.629.3538 (C) 503.807.4797 (F) 503.629.3674 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:18 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Haven't heard of any. What's the problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool I am having some problems with about 3 of 4000 mailboxes in an exchange 2003 environment and can not for the life of me figure it out. Are there any mailbox diff tools out there that I may be able to use to find the differences between these mailboxes and the rest of them? List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ <>
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool
I will start reading the mbdvu document, but any pointers on what i should be looking for and how to look for it are appreciated. Thanks From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Steve Shaff Sent: Wed 1/26/2005 4:36 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool You could try mdbview to see the mailboxes, to see if there is some sort of corruption. But, without having any further information, it is impossible for me to give you a definite answer. Thanks, S * Steve Shaff Active Directory / Exchange Administrator Corillian Corporation (W) 503.629.3538 (C) 503.807.4797 (F) 503.629.3674 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:18 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Haven't heard of any. What's the problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool I am having some problems with about 3 of 4000 mailboxes in an exchange 2003 environment and can not for the life of me figure it out. Are there any mailbox diff tools out there that I may be able to use to find the differences between these mailboxes and the rest of them? List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ <>
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool
Here is the scenario. UserB is sharing his calendar to UserX and UserY UserC is sharing his calendar to UserX and UserY UserX and UserY can not view UserB and UserC simultaneously, but can view one or the other plus anyone one else that has their calendar shared to them. The only way I have got them to view the calendars simultaneously is to remove their outlook profile and create a new profile. But...then they can only view them simultaneously the first time outlook (2003 cached mode) is opened. Once it is closed the problem starts again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:18 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Haven't heard of any. What's the problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool I am having some problems with about 3 of 4000 mailboxes in an exchange 2003 environment and can not for the life of me figure it out. Are there any mailbox diff tools out there that I may be able to use to find the differences between these mailboxes and the rest of them? List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool
You could try mdbview to see the mailboxes, to see if there is some sort of corruption. But, without having any further information, it is impossible for me to give you a definite answer. Thanks, S * Steve Shaff Active Directory / Exchange Administrator Corillian Corporation (W) 503.629.3538 (C) 503.807.4797 (F) 503.629.3674 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:18 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool Haven't heard of any. What's the problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool I am having some problems with about 3 of 4000 mailboxes in an exchange 2003 environment and can not for the life of me figure it out. Are there any mailbox diff tools out there that I may be able to use to find the differences between these mailboxes and the rest of them? List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool
Haven't heard of any. What's the problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange mailbox diff tool I am having some problems with about 3 of 4000 mailboxes in an exchange 2003 environment and can not for the life of me figure it out. Are there any mailbox diff tools out there that I may be able to use to find the differences between these mailboxes and the rest of them? List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
