RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains..
You can remove the orphaned domains through NTDSUTIL. Doing a metadata cleanup. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HBooGz Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Whenever i browse Network Neighborhood or view the list of availble networks, there are a few domains that appear that shouldn't. Is there a way to remove these domain/domain entries manually ? ADSI edit ? -- HBooGz:\>
RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains..
That’s a browser function not something in AD. There’s probably still computers joined to those domains (even though they don’t exist) or computers in workgroups with the same names… Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WATSON, BEN Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:05 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. You can remove the orphaned domains through NTDSUTIL. Doing a metadata cleanup. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HBooGz Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Whenever i browse Network Neighborhood or view the list of availble networks, there are a few domains that appear that shouldn't. Is there a way to remove these domain/domain entries manually ? ADSI edit ? -- HBooGz:\>
RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains..
If you use WINS… check for them in there and delete if required. Cheers, Rob Robert Rutherford QuoStar Solutions Limited The Enterprise Pavilion Fern Barrow Wallisdown Poole Dorset BH12 5HH T: +44 (0) 8456 440 331 F: +44 (0) 8456 440 332 M: +44 (0) 7974 249 494 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.quostar.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HBooGz Sent: 02 August 2006 22:46 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Whenever i browse Network Neighborhood or view the list of availble networks, there are a few domains that appear that shouldn't. Is there a way to remove these domain/domain entries manually ? ADSI edit ? -- HBooGz:\>
RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains..
That would depend upon whether or not the domains are appearing because of metadata, or whether they're appearing because of "bad" browsing information. Do the domains appear anywhere besides Network Neighborhood? Is WINS in use? If so, are there entries in WINS representing the domains? Without knowing exactly where the defunct domains are appearing and where they aren't, it's tough to call whether or not it's a problem of metadata or browsing. Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WATSON, BENSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 6:05 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. You can remove the orphaned domains through NTDSUTIL. Doing a metadata cleanup. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HBooGzSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:46 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Whenever i browse Network Neighborhood or view the list of availble networks, there are a few domains that appear that shouldn't. Is there a way to remove these domain/domain entries manually ?ADSI edit ?-- HBooGz:\>
RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains..
Ah right, I read the initial question wrong and thought you were trying to rid yourself of an old domain that no longer exists. It certainly sounds more like a browsing issue. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 3:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. That would depend upon whether or not the domains are appearing because of metadata, or whether they're appearing because of "bad" browsing information. Do the domains appear anywhere besides Network Neighborhood? Is WINS in use? If so, are there entries in WINS representing the domains? Without knowing exactly where the defunct domains are appearing and where they aren't, it's tough to call whether or not it's a problem of metadata or browsing. Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WATSON, BEN Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 6:05 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. You can remove the orphaned domains through NTDSUTIL. Doing a metadata cleanup. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HBooGz Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Whenever i browse Network Neighborhood or view the list of availble networks, there are a few domains that appear that shouldn't. Is there a way to remove these domain/domain entries manually ? ADSI edit ? -- HBooGz:\>
RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains..
Check your WINS database if you are using WINS. Part of the browsing data comes from WINS and the database will tell you where those records are coming from. You can address it via the hosts if it's coming from there or clean up your WINS db. Diane From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian DesmondSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:10 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. That’s a browser function not something in AD. There’s probably still computers joined to those domains (even though they don’t exist) or computers in workgroups with the same names… Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WATSON, BENSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:05 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. You can remove the orphaned domains through NTDSUTIL. Doing a metadata cleanup. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HBooGzSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:46 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Whenever i browse Network Neighborhood or view the list of availble networks, there are a few domains that appear that shouldn't. Is there a way to remove these domain/domain entries manually ?ADSI edit ?-- HBooGz:\>
Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains..
hey guys - Yes, i'm using wins. Yes, they are appearing outside of network neighborhood. what exactly would i examine (node type) that would help me pinpoint where these are appearing ? and how to get rid of it ? definitely appears to be a browsing issue ? how can i force who is the "master browser" for the domain ? all workstations are windows 2000 and windows xp i'm also seeing workgroups that should have never been created and i'm now policing against -- any way to rid myself of this or detect where they are being generated ? Thanks On 8/2/06, Ayers, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Check your WINS database if you are using WINS. Part of the browsing data comes from WINS and the database will tell you where those records are coming from. You can address it via the hosts if it's coming from there or clean up your WINS db. Diane From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian DesmondSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:10 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. That's a browser function not something in AD. There's probably still computers joined to those domains (even though they don't exist) or computers in workgroups with the same names… Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of WATSON, BENSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:05 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. You can remove the orphaned domains through NTDSUTIL. Doing a metadata cleanup. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HBooGzSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Whenever i browse Network Neighborhood or view the list of availble networks, there are a few domains that appear that shouldn't. Is there a way to remove these domain/domain entries manually ?ADSI edit ? -- HBooGz:\> -- HBooGz:\>
RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains..
Look for 1b and 1c records in WINS for the defunct domain. Remove them and wait for WINS replication. You should also use ntdsutil and remove the redundant AD objects too. You can never stop ppl creating new workgroups - you should be able to determine the IP address of their members however and then track back to individual machines / users. neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HBooGzSent: 03 August 2006 03:04To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. hey guys - Yes, i'm using wins. Yes, they are appearing outside of network neighborhood. what exactly would i examine (node type) that would help me pinpoint where these are appearing ? and how to get rid of it ? definitely appears to be a browsing issue ? how can i force who is the "master browser" for the domain ? all workstations are windows 2000 and windows xp i'm also seeing workgroups that should have never been created and i'm now policing against -- any way to rid myself of this or detect where they are being generated ? Thanks On 8/2/06, Ayers, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Check your WINS database if you are using WINS. Part of the browsing data comes from WINS and the database will tell you where those records are coming from. You can address it via the hosts if it's coming from there or clean up your WINS db. Diane From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian DesmondSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:10 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. That's a browser function not something in AD. There's probably still computers joined to those domains (even though they don't exist) or computers in workgroups with the same names… Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of WATSON, BENSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:05 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. You can remove the orphaned domains through NTDSUTIL. Doing a metadata cleanup. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HBooGzSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Whenever i browse Network Neighborhood or view the list of availble networks, there are a few domains that appear that shouldn't. Is there a way to remove these domain/domain entries manually ?ADSI edit ?-- HBooGz:\> -- HBooGz:\> PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communication and Nomura International plc ('NIplc') will not, to the extent permitted by law, accept responsibility or liability for (a) the accuracy or completeness of, or (b) the presence of any virus, worm or similar malicious or disabling code in, this message or any attachment(s) to it. If verification of this email is sought then please request a hard copy. Unless otherwise stated this email: (1) is not, and should not be treated or relied upon as, investment research; (2) contains views or opinions that are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NIplc; (3) is intended for informational purposes only and is not a recommendation, solicitation or offer to buy or sell securities or related financial instruments. NIplc does not provide investment services to private customers. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Registered in England no. 1550505 VAT No. 447 2492 35. Registered Office: 1 St Martin's-le-Grand, London, EC1A 4NP. A member of the Nomura group of companies.
Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains..
Thanks Neil -How would one determine the IP of the members of a particular workgroup ?RE: NTDSUTIL - just do a search, that matches the whole string, for the domain name ? and remove accordingly ? On 8/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Look for 1b and 1c records in WINS for the defunct domain. Remove them and wait for WINS replication. You should also use ntdsutil and remove the redundant AD objects too. You can never stop ppl creating new workgroups - you should be able to determine the IP address of their members however and then track back to individual machines / users. neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HBooGzSent: 03 August 2006 03:04To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. hey guys - Yes, i'm using wins. Yes, they are appearing outside of network neighborhood. what exactly would i examine (node type) that would help me pinpoint where these are appearing ? and how to get rid of it ? definitely appears to be a browsing issue ? how can i force who is the "master browser" for the domain ? all workstations are windows 2000 and windows xp i'm also seeing workgroups that should have never been created and i'm now policing against -- any way to rid myself of this or detect where they are being generated ? Thanks On 8/2/06, Ayers, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Check your WINS database if you are using WINS. Part of the browsing data comes from WINS and the database will tell you where those records are coming from. You can address it via the hosts if it's coming from there or clean up your WINS db. Diane From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian DesmondSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:10 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. That's a browser function not something in AD. There's probably still computers joined to those domains (even though they don't exist) or computers in workgroups with the same names… Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of WATSON, BENSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:05 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. You can remove the orphaned domains through NTDSUTIL. Doing a metadata cleanup. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HBooGzSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Whenever i browse Network Neighborhood or view the list of availble networks, there are a few domains that appear that shouldn't. Is there a way to remove these domain/domain entries manually ?ADSI edit ?-- HBooGz:\> -- HBooGz:\> PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communication and Nomura International plc ('NIplc') will not, to the extent permitted by law, accept responsibility or liability for (a) the accuracy or completeness of, or (b) the presence of any virus, worm or similar malicious or disabling code in, this message or any attachment(s) to it. If verification of this email is sought then please request a hard copy. Unless otherwise stated this email: (1) is not, and should not be treated or relied upon as, investment research; (2) contains views or opinions that are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NIplc; (3) is intended for informational purposes only and is not a recommendation, solicitation or offer to buy or sell securities or related financial instruments. NIplc does not provide investment services to private customers. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Registered in England no. 1550505 VAT No. 447 2492 35. Registered Office: 1 St Martin's-le-Grand, London, EC1A 4NP. A member of the Nomura group of companies. -- HBooGz:\>
RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains..
I’m gonna read between the lines a little and ask if you previously trusted these domains? -- Dean Wells MSEtechnology * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msetechnology.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HBooGz Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:04 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. hey guys - Yes, i'm using wins. Yes, they are appearing outside of network neighborhood. what exactly would i examine (node type) that would help me pinpoint where these are appearing ? and how to get rid of it ? definitely appears to be a browsing issue ? how can i force who is the "master browser" for the domain ? all workstations are windows 2000 and windows xp i'm also seeing workgroups that should have never been created and i'm now policing against -- any way to rid myself of this or detect where they are being generated ? Thanks On 8/2/06, Ayers, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Check your WINS database if you are using WINS. Part of the browsing data comes from WINS and the database will tell you where those records are coming from. You can address it via the hosts if it's coming from there or clean up your WINS db. Diane From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:10 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. That's a browser function not something in AD. There's probably still computers joined to those domains (even though they don't exist) or computers in workgroups with the same names… Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of WATSON, BEN Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:05 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. You can remove the orphaned domains through NTDSUTIL. Doing a metadata cleanup. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HBooGz Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Whenever i browse Network Neighborhood or view the list of availble networks, there are a few domains that appear that shouldn't. Is there a way to remove these domain/domain entries manually ? ADSI edit ? -- HBooGz:\> -- HBooGz:\>
Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains..
See kb216498 for the info. on the NTDSUTIL cleanup. Basically you need to perform a metadata, DNS and FRS cleanup. ThatKB details all the necessary steps. You'd determine the IP address of the workgroup by the 1B and 1C records registered for that name. The domain master browser is performed by the PDCe. A master browser is also elected on a per-subnet basis. Check out the Win2k RK book - TCP/IP core networking guide for more info. There's an appendix on the browser service. --Paul - Original Message - From: HBooGz To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Thanks Neil -How would one determine the IP of the members of a particular workgroup ?RE: NTDSUTIL - just do a search, that matches the whole string, for the domain name ? and remove accordingly ? On 8/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Look for 1b and 1c records in WINS for the defunct domain. Remove them and wait for WINS replication. You should also use ntdsutil and remove the redundant AD objects too. You can never stop ppl creating new workgroups - you should be able to determine the IP address of their members however and then track back to individual machines / users. neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HBooGz Sent: 03 August 2006 03:04 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. hey guys - Yes, i'm using wins. Yes, they are appearing outside of network neighborhood. what exactly would i examine (node type) that would help me pinpoint where these are appearing ? and how to get rid of it ? definitely appears to be a browsing issue ? how can i force who is the "master browser" for the domain ? all workstations are windows 2000 and windows xp i'm also seeing workgroups that should have never been created and i'm now policing against -- any way to rid myself of this or detect where they are being generated ? Thanks On 8/2/06, Ayers, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Check your WINS database if you are using WINS. Part of the browsing data comes from WINS and the database will tell you where those records are coming from. You can address it via the hosts if it's coming from there or clean up your WINS db. Diane From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian DesmondSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:10 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. That's a browser function not something in AD. There's probably still computers joined to those domains (even though they don't exist) or computers in workgroups with the same names… Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of WATSON, BENSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:05 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. You can remove the orphaned domains through NTDSUTIL. Doing a metadata cleanup. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HBooGzSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Whenever i browse Network Neighborhood or view the list of availble networks, there are a few domains that appear that shouldn't. Is there a way to remove these domain/domain entries manually ?ADSI edit ?-- HBooGz:\> -- HBooGz:\> PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communication and Nomura International plc ('NIplc') will not, to the extent permitted by law, accept responsibility or liability for (a) the accuracy or completeness of, or (b) the presence of any virus, worm or similar malicious or disabling code in, this message or any
RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains..
... or load up "browmon". it's been a while since I used that, so pls, no questions :) neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul WilliamsSent: 03 August 2006 14:17To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. See kb216498 for the info. on the NTDSUTIL cleanup. Basically you need to perform a metadata, DNS and FRS cleanup. ThatKB details all the necessary steps. You'd determine the IP address of the workgroup by the 1B and 1C records registered for that name. The domain master browser is performed by the PDCe. A master browser is also elected on a per-subnet basis. Check out the Win2k RK book - TCP/IP core networking guide for more info. There's an appendix on the browser service. --Paul - Original Message - From: HBooGz To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Thanks Neil -How would one determine the IP of the members of a particular workgroup ?RE: NTDSUTIL - just do a search, that matches the whole string, for the domain name ? and remove accordingly ? On 8/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Look for 1b and 1c records in WINS for the defunct domain. Remove them and wait for WINS replication. You should also use ntdsutil and remove the redundant AD objects too. You can never stop ppl creating new workgroups - you should be able to determine the IP address of their members however and then track back to individual machines / users. neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HBooGz Sent: 03 August 2006 03:04 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. hey guys - Yes, i'm using wins. Yes, they are appearing outside of network neighborhood. what exactly would i examine (node type) that would help me pinpoint where these are appearing ? and how to get rid of it ? definitely appears to be a browsing issue ? how can i force who is the "master browser" for the domain ? all workstations are windows 2000 and windows xp i'm also seeing workgroups that should have never been created and i'm now policing against -- any way to rid myself of this or detect where they are being generated ? Thanks On 8/2/06, Ayers, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Check your WINS database if you are using WINS. Part of the browsing data comes from WINS and the database will tell you where those records are coming from. You can address it via the hosts if it's coming from there or clean up your WINS db. Diane From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian DesmondSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:10 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. That's a browser function not something in AD. There's probably still computers joined to those domains (even though they don't exist) or computers in workgroups with the same names… Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of WATSON, BENSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:05 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. You can remove the orphaned domains through NTDSUTIL. Doing a metadata cleanup. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HBooGzSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Whenever i browse Network Neighborhood or view the list of availble networks, there are a few domains that appear that shouldn't. Is there a way to remove these domain/domain entries manually ?ADSI edit ?-- HBooGz:\> -- HBooGz:\> PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communicat
RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains..
For the workgroups. You'll need to browse your WINS db and get the IP addresses from that. As Neal mentioned earlier, look for the 1b and 1c entries in your DB and hunt down the IP addresses. There are some command line tools or you can use the WINS GUI. Diane From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HBooGzSent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 5:34 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Thanks Neil -How would one determine the IP of the members of a particular workgroup ?RE: NTDSUTIL - just do a search, that matches the whole string, for the domain name ? and remove accordingly ? On 8/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Look for 1b and 1c records in WINS for the defunct domain. Remove them and wait for WINS replication. You should also use ntdsutil and remove the redundant AD objects too. You can never stop ppl creating new workgroups - you should be able to determine the IP address of their members however and then track back to individual machines / users. neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HBooGz Sent: 03 August 2006 03:04 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. hey guys - Yes, i'm using wins. Yes, they are appearing outside of network neighborhood. what exactly would i examine (node type) that would help me pinpoint where these are appearing ? and how to get rid of it ? definitely appears to be a browsing issue ? how can i force who is the "master browser" for the domain ? all workstations are windows 2000 and windows xp i'm also seeing workgroups that should have never been created and i'm now policing against -- any way to rid myself of this or detect where they are being generated ? Thanks On 8/2/06, Ayers, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Check your WINS database if you are using WINS. Part of the browsing data comes from WINS and the database will tell you where those records are coming from. You can address it via the hosts if it's coming from there or clean up your WINS db. Diane From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian DesmondSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:10 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. That's a browser function not something in AD. There's probably still computers joined to those domains (even though they don't exist) or computers in workgroups with the same names… Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of WATSON, BENSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:05 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. You can remove the orphaned domains through NTDSUTIL. Doing a metadata cleanup. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HBooGzSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Whenever i browse Network Neighborhood or view the list of availble networks, there are a few domains that appear that shouldn't. Is there a way to remove these domain/domain entries manually ?ADSI edit ?-- HBooGz:\> -- HBooGz:\> PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communication and Nomura International plc ('NIplc') will not, to the extent permitted by law, accept responsibility or liability for (a) the accuracy or completeness of, or (b) the presence of any virus, worm or similar malicious or disabling code in, this message or any attachment(s) to it. If verification of this email is sought then please request a hard copy. Unless otherwise stated this email: (1) is not, and should not be treated or relied upon as, investment research; (2) contains views or opinions that are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NIplc; (3) is intended for informational purposes only and is not a recommendation, solicitation or offer to buy or sell securities or related financial instruments. NIplc does n
Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains..
Hey Guys -It's really an OLD NT 4.0 domain that was migrated over to 2k and just recently upgraded to 2003 R2. I'm sure i'd have to probably cleanup the metadata, etc.but anyway to curb the creation of these rogue workgroups ? if i can't curb, how i can succesfully remove or be alerted ? alerting sounds advantageous...On 8/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... or load up "browmon". it's been a while since I used that, so pls, no questions :) neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul WilliamsSent: 03 August 2006 14:17To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. See kb216498 for the info. on the NTDSUTIL cleanup. Basically you need to perform a metadata, DNS and FRS cleanup. ThatKB details all the necessary steps. You'd determine the IP address of the workgroup by the 1B and 1C records registered for that name. The domain master browser is performed by the PDCe. A master browser is also elected on a per-subnet basis. Check out the Win2k RK book - TCP/IP core networking guide for more info. There's an appendix on the browser service. --Paul - Original Message - From: HBooGz To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Thanks Neil -How would one determine the IP of the members of a particular workgroup ?RE: NTDSUTIL - just do a search, that matches the whole string, for the domain name ? and remove accordingly ? On 8/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Look for 1b and 1c records in WINS for the defunct domain. Remove them and wait for WINS replication. You should also use ntdsutil and remove the redundant AD objects too. You can never stop ppl creating new workgroups - you should be able to determine the IP address of their members however and then track back to individual machines / users. neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HBooGz Sent: 03 August 2006 03:04 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. hey guys - Yes, i'm using wins. Yes, they are appearing outside of network neighborhood. what exactly would i examine (node type) that would help me pinpoint where these are appearing ? and how to get rid of it ? definitely appears to be a browsing issue ? how can i force who is the "master browser" for the domain ? all workstations are windows 2000 and windows xp i'm also seeing workgroups that should have never been created and i'm now policing against -- any way to rid myself of this or detect where they are being generated ? Thanks On 8/2/06, Ayers, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Check your WINS database if you are using WINS. Part of the browsing data comes from WINS and the database will tell you where those records are coming from. You can address it via the hosts if it's coming from there or clean up your WINS db. Diane From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian DesmondSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:10 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. That's a browser function not something in AD. There's probably still computers joined to those domains (even though they don't exist) or computers in workgroups with the same names… Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of WATSON, BENSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:05 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. You can remove the orphaned domains through NTDSUTIL. Doing a metadata cleanup. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HBooGzSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Remove Defunct domains.. Whenever i browse Network Neighborhood or view the list of availble networks, there are a few domains that appear that shouldn't. Is there a way to remove these domain/domain entries manually ?ADSI edit ?-- HBooGz:\> -- HBooGz:\>